Light Utility Helicopter: News & Discussion: 06 Feb 2021

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Re: Light Utility Helicopter: News & Discussion: 06 Feb 2021

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Crucial Meet To Decide Next Steps On LUH
https://www.livefistdefence.com/crucial ... ps-on-luh/
26 Feb 2025

https://x.com/somnath1978/status/1894807149597073728 ---> A strong Minister/Defence Secy will tell the Army - its either LUH or you can continue flying Cheetahs. No Ka226/Fennec/Euro-something or the other will be approved.

https://x.com/somnath1978/status/1894808418256593365 ---> Wont be a bad idea to reserve a few posts in HAL, incl that of the CEO, for IAF officers. At the very least, all the "HAL is bad" excuses will stop. Bit like shipyards - they are the worst in Asia. Yet Navy does not complain, as they are led by ex-Navy officers ;)
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VIDEO: https://x.com/SandeepUnnithan/status/18 ... 3423613001 ---> No defence platform has gone from the drawing board to Siachen in just 5 years. It will be a pity if the HAL Light Utility Helicopter (LUH) does not get the bulk production orders it deserves. Indian Designed Developed & Manufactured (IDDM) all the way.
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I just do not know what to make of this

LIGHT UTILITY HELICOPTER UNDER A CLOUD?
https://kaypius.com/2025/03/02/light-ut ... r-a-cloud/
02 March 2025
As per confirmed sources, a senior IAF veteran and experimental test pilot (ETP) under HAL employment had warned officials within the company of serious design issues in LUH early in the program.
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^^^
Timing of the article :twisted:
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The flak the gentleman has got on x for his post is an eye-opener

Correction - not him, but another veteran, who tried to use it to push his own agenda
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Rakesh wrote: 27 Feb 2025 22:01
https://x.com/somnath1978/status/1894808418256593365 ---> Wont be a bad idea to reserve a few posts in HAL, incl that of the CEO, for IAF officers. At the very least, all the "HAL is bad" excuses will stop. Bit like shipyards - they are the worst in Asia. Yet Navy does not complain, as they are led by ex-Navy officers ;)
Probably a bad idea. The reason the Navy is not complaining on the delays is probably because the navy is not going to be able fund it faster than that with its minuscule budget, relatively speaking. To equate that with the Shipyards being led by ex naval personnel is a pretty wrong assumption, IMO.
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Although the US forces name some of their weapons after former officers, so there may be something to that.
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India defense budget and DPSUs are made for each other. Things come piece meal at the right time...
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Did we ever get any detailed reason why Apache crashed? Was it fault of the machine, maintainence or crew? When it comes to foreign maal we do not use the same yardstick that we use for desi platforms
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Bharadwaj wrote: 03 Mar 2025 16:23 LIGHT UTILITY HELICOPTER UNDER A CLOUD?
https://kaypius.com/2025/03/02/light-ut ... r-a-cloud/
02 March 2025
As per confirmed sources, a senior IAF veteran and experimental test pilot (ETP) under HAL employment had warned officials within the company of serious design issues in LUH early in the program.
https://x.com/hukum2082/status/1896205556995789104 ---> You are jumping the gun here without trying to understand the nature of defects highlighted.The questions that need to be asked are:

1. Are these issues deal breakers?
2. Are these issues fixable?
3. Has HAL refused to address them in a reasonable time frame?

Basic understanding of rotor dynamics is important to be able to rationally classify the severity of these “defects”.
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Flight to remember: My experience in the Light Utility Helicopter
https://english.mathrubhumi.com/feature ... 1.10403173
07 March 2025

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Indian Army, IAF seek 200 light Helicopters to replace ageing Chetak-Cheetah fleet
The Defence Ministry has issued a Request for Information (RFI) to replace its fleet of Chetak and Cheetah helicopters with about 200 modern light helicopters classified as Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopters (RSH).

The new helicopters will serve both the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force, with an expected requirement of 120 units for the Army and 80 for the Air Force.

The RFI aims to finalise technical requirements, decide the procurement method, and identify potential suppliers, including Indian companies partnering with original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), who can supply Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopters.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst


LUH was tailor made for this task, but we have let the line go idle and it will take atleast 3 years to restart. What was the need for this RFI when we had a home grown product in LUH.
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Rupesh wrote: 09 Aug 2025 10:49 Indian Army, IAF seek 200 light Helicopters to replace ageing Chetak-Cheetah fleet
The Defence Ministry has issued a Request for Information (RFI) to replace its fleet of Chetak and Cheetah helicopters with about 200 modern light helicopters classified as Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopters (RSH).

The new helicopters will serve both the Indian Army and the Indian Air Force, with an expected requirement of 120 units for the Army and 80 for the Air Force.

The RFI aims to finalise technical requirements, decide the procurement method, and identify potential suppliers, including Indian companies partnering with original equipment manufacturers (OEMs), who can supply Reconnaissance and Surveillance Helicopters.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst


LUH was tailor made for this task, but we have let the line go idle and it will take atleast 3 years to restart. What was the need for this RFI when we had a home grown product in LUH.
We are short sighted - we designed for customer with their requirements. What is the need for this song and dance?
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There are plenty of Import Bahadurs in Twitter, who readily give a free pass to imported helis but want to ground the entire Dhruv/LCH/LUH fleet at the first sign of trouble. The handle @realkaypius comes to mind, among others

These are the kinds of people who are opposing Naval Dhruv, LUH etc

True, the Dhruv with skids has a fatigue life problem, but its fixable. And its not like imported helis don't have this kind of problem or that Western nations didn't encounter these during their development cycles. But the step-motherly treatment is there for all to see

RM Parikkar would have cracked the whip. Rajnath Singh once claimed that knows that screwdrivergiri is not true Atmanirbhar. Yet, he happily parrots this lie. Maybe he has been co-opted or is just plain powerless
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Prem Kumar wrote: 10 Aug 2025 11:37 There are plenty of Import Bahadurs in Twitter, who readily give a free pass to imported helis but want to ground the entire Dhruv/LCH/LUH fleet at the first sign of trouble. The handle @realkaypius comes to mind, among others

These are the kinds of people who are opposing Naval Dhruv, LUH etc

True, the Dhruv with skids has a fatigue life problem, but its fixable. And its not like imported helis don't have this kind of problem or that Western nations didn't encounter these during their development cycles. But the step-motherly treatment is there for all to see

RM Parikkar would have cracked the whip. Rajnath Singh once claimed that knows that screwdrivergiri is not true Atmanirbhar. Yet, he happily parrots this lie. Maybe he has been co-opted or is just plain powerless
Oh yeah real puss!Y - He has me blocked on twitter... I think I hit them nerves often! :rotfl:
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