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Not to sure where to put this.

What do you think of the authors opinions?

India: It’s Worse Than You Think

https://www.unz.com/article/india-its-w ... s#comments
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@Haresh ji,

https://www.gold-eagle.com/authors/jayant-bhandari
Jayant Bhandari is constantly traveling the world to look for investment opportunities, particularly in the natural resource sector. He advises institutional investors about his finds. Earlier, he worked for six years with US Global Investors (San Antonio, Texas), a boutique natural resource investment firm, and for one year with Casey Research. Before emigrating from India, he started and ran the Indian subsidiary operations of two European companies. He still travels multiple times a year to India.

Bhandari has written on political, economic and cultural issues for the Liberty magazine, the Mises Institute (USA), Mises Institute (Canada), Casey Research, International Man, Mining Journal, Zero Hedge, Lew Rockwell, the Dollar Vigilante, Fraser Institute, Le Québécois Libre, Mauldin Economics, Northern Miner, Mining Markets etc. He is a contributing editor of the Liberty magazine.

He is an MBA from Manchester Business School (UK) and B. Engineering from SGSITS (India).
That is all we need to know about this guy.
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Haresh wrote: 14 Jul 2025 00:02 Not to sure where to put this.

What do you think of the authors opinions?

India: It’s Worse Than You Think

https://www.unz.com/article/india-its-w ... s#comments
It’s self loathing, intellectually substandard, western dick riding, cringe inducing, poorly written and poorly analysed garbage concocted by a Nirad C. Chaudhuri from Walmart.

That’s all.
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Any thoughts here on Bhil Pradesh? And the separate religion?
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A_Gupta wrote: 04 Aug 2025 17:37 Any thoughts here on Bhil Pradesh? And the separate religion?
at first glance, seems a non-starter: all states were created based on language, the newer states of jk, cg, uk were created from 1 big state, this would necessitate taking districts from 4 states with different languages

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there is no established political party fighting for such a statehood across state lines, if there is demand from the ground, then they can field their candidates and gauge interest accordingly, iirc, many seats in this belt are designated as st reserved

dont know about a separate religion, all the regions outlined above are the run-off-the-mill indian cities / towns, nothing out of the ordinary, though iirc the conversion rates are high atleast in the tribal areas of this belt
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well the religion above is for the peoples inhabiting chhota nagpur mainly in jharkhand, bihar, by some stretch chhatisgarh

bhils and bhilais are in the west chiefly between the forested regions in the border of mp, gujarat, along the banks of the narmada, do not think the two are related

the nagpuriya, as the tribes are called collectively in the local language, have already agitated for and obtained their own state, there is no such movement for the bhils

incidentally, the city i grew up in would also come under the new proposed state as shown above, have never heard any lingering sentiments for statehood
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i am currently visiting the city that i grew up in, some jumbled, random reflections of what i feel would be true for all lower tier 2 / upper tier 3 cities, the main thing to notice is that the city has not fundamentally changed, yes, there are more flyovers, the roads are widened in certain places, and there are the usual remnants of the changes in purchasing habits, large brick and mortar plazas giving way to glass and glitz malls themselves now joining the earlier plazas in decrepitude and the blossoming of smaller kirana stores almost everywhere, but the city remains the same

now i have seen the older pictures in the local museums of the city in the before times, and strikingly, the core remains unchanged, give or take the ubiquitous 3g/4g towers and the presence of more motor cars on the roads, and i think to myself, if someone from the 1960s or 70s city would somehow time travel to today's time, would he find much difference from his times? - probably yes, telecom and friends is a relatively newer beast, physically though on a surface level, the city is the same only spammed with the same layout throughout, and i look at the videos of chinese cities which are unrecognisable from their earlier iterations, and i wonder if residents of tier 1 or upper tier 2 cities face the same query that i posit above

in the earlier noughts, there was a whiff of optimism, there was a spate of geocities discussion, but i think we are unlikely to ever fully change ala the chinese, it would be utilitarian, functional and with little thought paid to aesthetics

now, india by prior estimates was hurtling towards a fall in demographics from 2080 onwards, and that was the best case scenario, i think that liberation in lifestyles of the current milieu and even one deviation above may lead to a crash much sooner, will the much vaunted demographic dividend pay out handsomely by then? that is anybody's guess i suppose

i fear that our peak is nearer and we may not have enough time to sufficiently convert our current demographic leverage to a stable, medium income economy by then

in george martins dying of the light, a melancholic space opera, a rogue planet is observed to be in an orbit that would only bring it near civilisation for a certain period of time before it moves out into a region of dark space with no stars, so, many revel on that planet indulging in all excesses without abandon as the twilight of the planet draws near
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Ricky saab,

There are 2 levels to this. GoI has been rightly focusing on poverty alleviation - and in this it has seen more success than failure. One could argue this is because of the huge amount of social security spending that we so in form of MNREGA or housing or medical insurance or Ladki Bahin type - but the net impact has been that the bottom rung is being lifted up. If one speaks to the lower section, there is cause for optimism - they have phones , two wheelers and aspire to education.

The rich are where they are - getting richer due to the new opportunities available in all respects - the number of companies opening up is increasing, their discretionary spending is increasing, luxury travel is increasing.

The gloom is with middle class. They are the ones hit by taxes and have to bear the brunt of paying for the various schemes. Education costs are through the roof. So they respond with marrying late, having no more than one kid etc etc.

Simplistic, but that’s my view and largely agree with your observations
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What is the definition of Indian middle class? I realize that it is a range low-rich, upper middle class, middle middle class, and lower middle class etc.

At what income/wealth level, folks get a maid to clean their home (most likely a flat) and at what level they employ maid cum cook? As the nominal per capita goes up, the gap between PPP and nominal narrows. That means those who are employing household help have to do chores themselves. Currently furniture will be brought home by labor hands employed by the store. They also will assemble on site. Usually that is all included in the price. Going forward, upper middle class folks have to do assemble stuff at home. If they want somebody to deliver and assemble, then they will have to pay as the labor costs will be going up.

In many cities including 2nd and 3rd tier, the cost of living has gone up tremendously. Public spaces are limited and of poor quality. Tier one cities are unlivable IMHO. Which tier cities are going to grow (unplanned obviously as our babucracy is incompetent and corrupt to some extent).
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reply to Dileepji from

viewtopic.php?p=2392027#p2392027
Dileep ji says : Get this: The voter can actually see the slip coming out and getting cut, even though the lamp is off. Some versions of VVPAT you need to 'look for it', while some versions it is clearly visible.

So, why don't you start the campaign for the voters to "look for the slip actually coming out and getting cut"? Anyone who doubt the process can actually look closely and verify.

Let the campaign run and see what people see!!
As per a new trick invented by Rahul Mehta ji , which named as #EvmLightSensor magic, even this method or campaign of “seeing into VVPAT glass and looking for paper slip getting printed, cut and dropping” may not stop #EvmVoteChori . How ? Why ?

summary : vvpat has light sensor. so using light sensor, vvpat code can know whether voter after pressing button is still standing or has left. if voter is standing, then do not steal his vote and if he has left, then steal his vote.

Details :

(1) say RM’s code is present in vvpat.

(2) Now vvpat has light sensor. Pls note : vvpaty has light sensor inside. How do I know? Because its written in manual that if too much light falls on vvpat, then it will go in error mode,. So this para proves that vvpat has light sensor. Pls manual mentions light sensor at many places

(3) say vvpat is in room, and say light intensity is 150 lux

(4) say voter comes and stands in front of vvpat. Now light intensity on vvpat drops to say 50 lux . So vvpat code knows that voter has come.

(5) now voter presses button on BU and say he leaves within 3.90 seconds after pressing button

(6) so light intensity on vvpat becomes 150 lux

(7) so vvpat knows that voter has left before slip printing even started. (slip printing starts after 4 sec). So now vvpat can steal the vote and there is no one to see !!!

(8) if voter continues to stands, then light intensity will remain 50 lux. So vvpat code knows that voter is still standing. So vvpat will show paper getting printed,still paper for 7 seconds, then cutting and dropping. And vote is not stolen

(9) in short : using light sensor, the vvpat code can know whether voter after pressing button is still standing or has left. So if he is standing, then do not steal his vote and if he has left, then steal his vote.

(10) now #EvmBlackGlass logic and above mentioned #EvmLightSensor logic can be combined to implement EvmVoteChori in a way, that the voters who will stand will see vote getting printed , cut and drop and their vote will not get stolen. But voters who walk away within 3.90 seconds — their vote may get stolen . And none will see.

( #EvmBlackGlass logic has been described in Bharat Rakshak at viewtopic.php?p=2390927#p2390927 )

Now I stood outside booth in vidhsabha oct-2024 elections in Mumbai for about 30 minutes. I observed, and counted about 20 voters. At least over 15 voters left the booth within 1-2 seconds after button press, Only 3-4 voters stood for full 11 seconds after button press,

So all in all EvmBlackGlass and EvmLightSensor do enable malicious code in vvpat to steal votes in a way voter and election staff will never notice, Only a few insiders in evm factory or chip manufacturing company will know.
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Are we still debating that crank Rahul Mehta again?

All his theories have been debunked repeatedly and are essentially variants of a single one: he can rewrite the code in all the EVMs. He has not been credibly able to show let alone prove how that is possible.

He has been repeatedly told that the security of EVM is not due to the EVM architecture (it’sa small part) but due to the processes and checks and balances that go with it. He wilfully ignores it.

I would suggest to ignore him and move on…
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Tanaji says : Are we still debating that crank Rahul Mehta again?
I am not Rahul Chimanbhai Mehta, Gandhinagar. I am Chinmay Amte residing in Mumbai area. A BR admin had phonecalled me and verified me before activating mny account. Do you want to verify me by phone call?
All his theories have been debunked repeatedly and are essentially variants of a single one: he can rewrite the code in all the EVMs. He has not been credibly able to show let alone prove how that is possible. He has been repeatedly told that the security of EVM is not due to the EVM architecture (it’sa small part) but due to the processes and checks and balances that go with it. He wilfully ignores it.
Mahatma Hariprasad in apr-2010 video showed how hardware, not just code of real govt EVM can be changed. And it is preassumption of myself and many more , that apex people in BEL or their bosses will be able to put a malacious code in EVM VVPAT CPU chip (which is made in Netherlands) or in vvpat evm codes. How? CIA can control chip manufacturer. Or BEL director can be roped in. How malacious code can get in EVM VVPAT chip is non issue.

The only safegaurds are VVPAT paper slips and so called mockpolls. The mockpolls can be bypassed by communicating polling datetime. So only safegaurd was vvpat paper slips. But RCMji shows that malacious code can manipulate vvpat paper slip printing and hide manipulation using evm black glass and evm light sensor.

So RCMji has proved that 10-20 people at apex, after putting malacious code inside VVPAT EVM, can change 100-200 votes in each evm vvpat including paperslips across all 10 lakh evm vvpat across Bharat. That too, in a way, no voter and noelection staff will see.
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dear admins,

A new trick in vvpat paperslip manipulation is published : vvpat has light sensor. so using light sensor, vvpat code can know whether voter after pressing button is still standing or has left. if voter is standing, then do not steal his vote and if he has left, then steal his vote.

So I request you to open the EVM thread - viewtopic.php?t=5008

thanks in advance
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The only solution is mandatory counting of all VVPATs. Results of EVMs will be considered provisional till VVPATs have been counted.
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EVM VVPAT CPU chip being made in Netherlands is worrisome. This is a rabidly evangelical country that has a long history of interfering in Indian subcontinent. You will find their finger in almost every pie, from LTTE to conversion rackets in India.
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The solution seems not too complicated. The voter will be asked to collect the slip and drop it off. No auto drops.
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Chinmay_Jury wrote: 24 Aug 2025 22:34
I am not Rahul Chimanbhai Mehta, Gandhinagar. I am Chinmay Amte residing in Mumbai area. A BR admin had phonecalled me and verified me before activating mny account. Do you want to verify me by phone call?.
Mananiya Mahoday, kindly state where in my post I have said you were Rahul Mehta. There is only one RM and you are not it :P ….

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. It is for you to prove how this extra light sensor module gets on to EVMs without anyone being aware and also how it gets added to existing EVMs. The security protocols and SOPs are on EC website, please peruse through it and provide a step by step list as how you will bypass it.
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Tanaji says : It is for you to prove how this extra light sensor module gets on to EVMs without anyone being aware ....
sir, the official vvpat manual itself says that if too much light falls on vvpat then vvpat will go into error mode. This proves that vvpat already has light sensor inside. So vvpat software can know whether voter after button press is still standing or whether voter has walked away.

RCMji is NOT putting any new hardware. RCMji proves that "merely putting malacious code in evm vvpat is sufficient ;, vvpat code can fool voters and election staff , and using existing EvmBlackGlass and EvmLightSensor"
sanjayc : The only solution is mandatory counting of all VVPATs. Results of EVMs will be considered provisional till VVPATs have been counted.
RCMji has proved that if dishonest software is put in vvpat, then say 60 people vote for BANANA and say 40 vote for APPLE, Then voter will see what they voted for. And software can print 70 APPLEs and 30 BANANAs and no voter and no election staff will notice. How? Pls see viewtopic.php?p=2364815#p2364815 . So 100% vvpat count is now pointless.

RCMji has equipment demo on his vvpat. His video is on his FB profile pinned post and @EvmHatao YT channel.
pravula ji says : ... collect the slip and drop it off. No auto drops.
I can print 4 such slips, pack them, and drop them in box. Existing vvpat paper slip are ordinary thermal paper with no hologram, no serial number on backside and no booth officer signature on back. Its just 2 inches wide and 3 inch tall thermal paper. And it has no serial number because putting serial number violates voter privacy. Everyone will know who is voter#1 and who voter#1 voted for. So giving existing vvpat slip to voter increases chances of voter level frauds to very high.


And no software change and harwarde change is possible in 3 months. We have BR VS elections starting nov-2025

Dear admins,

I re-request you to bring EVM thread out of trash can.

Tanaji , SanjayC ji , pravula ji .. can you request admin to bring EVM thread out of trashcan ? Thanks in advamce.

My proposal for VS BR vov-2025 election is : give ballot paper OPTION for all who distrust EVMs. ECI may or need not keep EVMs.
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Again, you are saying if EVM code changed this and changed that…

Please provide how exactly will you change the code in hundreds of thousands of EVMs.

You are just rehashing the same old stuff as RM did
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Chinmay_Jury wrote: 26 Aug 2025 00:32
Tanaji says : It is for you to prove how this extra light sensor module gets on to EVMs without anyone being aware ....
sir, the official vvpat manual itself says that if too much light falls on vvpat then vvpat will go into error mode. This proves that vvpat already has light sensor inside. So vvpat software can know whether voter after button press is still standing or whether voter has walked away.

RCMji is NOT putting any new hardware. RCMji proves that "merely putting malacious code in evm vvpat is sufficient ;, vvpat code can fool voters and election staff , and using existing EvmBlackGlass and EvmLightSensor"
sanjayc : The only solution is mandatory counting of all VVPATs. Results of EVMs will be considered provisional till VVPATs have been counted.
RCMji has proved that if dishonest software is put in vvpat, then say 60 people vote for BANANA and say 40 vote for APPLE, Then voter will see what they voted for. And software can print 70 APPLEs and 30 BANANAs and no voter and no election staff will notice. How? Pls see viewtopic.php?p=2364815#p2364815 . So 100% vvpat count is now pointless.

RCMji has equipment demo on his vvpat. His video is on his FB profile pinned post and @EvmHatao YT channel.
pravula ji says : ... collect the slip and drop it off. No auto drops.
I can print 4 such slips, pack them, and drop them in box. Existing vvpat paper slip are ordinary thermal paper with no hologram, no serial number on backside and no booth officer signature on back. Its just 2 inches wide and 3 inch tall thermal paper. And it has no serial number because putting serial number violates voter privacy. Everyone will know who is voter#1 and who voter#1 voted for. So giving existing vvpat slip to voter increases chances of voter level frauds to very high.


And no software change and harwarde change is possible in 3 months. We have BR VS elections starting nov-2025

Dear admins,

I re-request you to bring EVM thread out of trash can.

Tanaji , SanjayC ji , pravula ji .. can you request admin to bring EVM thread out of trashcan ? Thanks in advamce.

My proposal for VS BR vov-2025 election is : give ballot paper OPTION for all who distrust EVMs. ECI may or need not keep EVMs.
For someone peddling conspiracy theories, I am surprised that you think printers do not embed secret info on their printouts. Easy to figure out not just which ones are fake, but also who printed them out. Get more paranoid...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots
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pravula wrote: 26 Aug 2025 01:09 ...Easy to figure out not just which ones are fake, but also who printed them out. Get more paranoid...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots
Steganography
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The ratio of inference to actual fact in the story is high, but it remains plausible.
https://www.opindia.com/2025/08/florida ... e_vignette
Florida crash case: Harjinder Singh, dunki route entry, and Khalistan link; Read how he played the ‘Khalistan card’ in asylum claim
Denied asylum under Trump but approved during Biden’s tenure, Harjinder Singh built a life as a trucker in the US before a fatal crash exposed how Punjabi migrants exploit loopholes in America’s immigration system and used 'Khalistan card' to set his application in motion.
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The abuse of the asylum system is news?

I haven’t read the article, I don’t waste time on garbage human beings. Let his tribe collect signatures for leniency. After all rules never apply to them. In India or in the US or Canada.
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sanjaykumar wrote: 26 Aug 2025 19:13 The abuse of the asylum system is news?

I haven’t read the article, I don’t waste time on garbage human beings. Let his tribe collect signatures for leniency. After all rules never apply to them. In India or in the US or Canada.
This is leading to abuse being heaped on Indians in general on Amrikan social media.
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No doubt. But there are those who just need a stick. Any stick will do. They are already determined.


Social media sites have such as ‘gems of whites’. Complete with incest. Bestiality, neck beards. It has not affected my approach to the white person.


However I must say, there are some sites that expose some of the appalling features of China, from filth to sh!tting culture to that odious diet. These have affected my view of even Chinese females. I find them less desirable now.


So there definitely can be propagandist value in hating.
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Soon even the whites will have to learn the difference between Hindus and Sikhs.

I just gave some business to a non Jatt Sikh family. Humble simple people, hard workers no fields back home. Pleasant dark complectioned 20ish daughter.


It is such people being held hostage. Otherwise the strutting and loud culture affect me little. I don’t think anyone classifies me as ‘one of them’. But as a white nurse once said to me “you have everything”. However I am concerned for that kaali kudi.
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The Era Of The Business Idiot
EDWARD ZITRON
MAY 21, 2025
50 MIN READ

Last week, Bloomberg profiled Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella, revealing that he's either a liar or a specific kind of idiot.

The article revealed that — assume we believe him, and this wasn’t merely a thinly-veiled advert for Microsoft’s AI tech — Copilot consumes Nadella’s life outside the office as well at work.
He likes podcasts, but instead of listening to them, he loads transcripts into the Copilot app on his iPhone so he can chat with the voice assistant about the content of an episode in the car on his commute to Redmond. At the office, he relies on Copilot to deliver summaries of messages he receives in Outlook and Teams and toggles among at least 10 custom agents from Copilot Studio. He views them as his AI chiefs of staff, delegating meeting prep, research and other tasks to the bots. “I’m an email typist,” Nadella jokes of his job, noting that Copilot is thankfully very good at triaging his messages.
None of these tasks are things that require you to use AI. You can read your messages on Outlook and Teams without having them summarized — and I’d argue that a well-written email is one that doesn’t require a summary. Podcasts are not there "to be chatted about" with an AI. Preparing for meetings isn't something that requires AI, nor is research, unless, of course, you don't really give a shit about the actual content of what you're reading or the message of what you're saying, just that you are "saying the right thing."
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To be clear, I am deeply unconvinced that Nadella actually runs his life in this way, but if he does, Microsoft’s board should fire him immediately.

In any case, the article is rambling, cloying, and ignores Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman's documented history of abusing his workers. Ten custom agents that do what? What do you mean by "other tasks"? Why are these questions never asked? Is it because the reporters know they won't get an answer? Is it because the reporters are too polite to ask more probing questions, knowing that these anecdotes are likely entirely made up as a means to promote a flagging AI ecosystem that cost billions to construct, but doesn’t really seem to do anything, and the reporter in question doesn’t want to force Satya to build a bigger house of cards than he needs to.

Or is it because we, as a society, do not want to look too closely at the powerful? Is it because we've handed our economy to men that get paid $79 million a year to do a job they can't seem to describe, and even that, they would sooner offload to a bunch of unreliable AI models than actually do?

We live in the era of the symbolic executive, when "being good at stuff" matters far less than the appearance of doing stuff, where "what's useful" is dictated not by outputs or metrics that one can measure but rather the vibes passed between managers and executives that have worked their entire careers to escape the world of work. Our economy is run by people that don't participate in it and our tech companies are directed by people that don't experience the problems they allege to solve for their customers, as the modern executive is no longer a person with demands or responsibilities beyond their allegiance to shareholder value.

I, however, believe the problem runs a little deeper than the economy, which is a symptom of a bigger, virulent, and treatment-resistant plague that has infected the minds of those currently twigging at the levers of power — and really, the only levers that actually matter.

The incentives behind effectively everything we do have been broken by decades of neoliberal thinking, where the idea of a company — an entity created to do a thing in exchange for money —has been drained of all meaning beyond the continued domination and extraction of everything around it, focusing heavily on short-term gains and growth at all costs. In doing so, the definition of a “good business” has changed from one that makes good products at a fair price to a sustainable and loyal market, to one that can display the most stock price growth from quarter to quarter.

This is the Rot Economy, which is a useful description for how tech companies have voluntarily degraded their core products in order to placate shareholders, transforming useful — and sometimes beloved — services into a hollow shell of their former selves as a means of expressing growth. But it’s worth noting that this transformation isn’t constrained to the tech industry, nor was it a phenomena that occurred when the tech industry entered its current VC-fuelled, publicly-traded incarnation.
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