Jai Shri Ram to that.
I think he is biden/biding his time
.. occasionally he is called forth to check loyalty to orangeutan..so tweets follow. I feel he hasn't lost sanity ..yet ! ..the wh is now a ,,£hit show with officials strictly told to leave sanity and reasoning at the door , the show being run by orangeutans set of "advisors" ,a motly club including a former jail bird who is shouting from roof tops about brahmins , a nut lick who is adept at cronyism, a bunch of crypto investors, a new age economist You forgot the chap that has a brain worm who looks like Edgar the farmer from Men in Black and is in charge of deciding the health policy for Americans….drnayar wrote: ↑06 Sep 2025 21:32
I think he is biden/biding his time
Can't think of a better team to tank American economy
Amazon India's main marketplace entity reported an operating revenue of ₹25,406 crore in the fiscal year ending March 2024 (FY24), a 14% increase from FY23
Walmart owned Flipkart India Private Limited reported a revenue of ₹70,800 crore (approximately $8.3 billion) for the financial year ending March 31, 2024. This represents a significant 26% growth in revenue compared to the previous year.
This is similar to the narrative building done by Bush Jr. and Colin Powell of Iraq having WMD. Parade a bunch of lies to make it seem like the truth and rally all the 'coalition of the willing' (i.e. Global West/ NATO) to join the tirade to do their dirty works.
This is such a short sighted take. Do you want government to dictate every part of your and your family life? I mean someone who is an adult and who had 17 years of formal education, who has their family support, should be competent enough to make their own life calls and if they are not in a position to make a positive judgment call about their life, what do you want the government to step in and do? Where is their family and what are they doing in not supporting their children and putting tremendous pressure on then compelling them to take this drastic measure? By this same logic, should we demand the government to force parents to take a test, and prove their competency before letting them get married?skumar wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025 06:16 GoI had earlier displayed lack of sensitivity for students traveling to Canada. The ex-High Commissioner (get rid of this stupid Commonwealth lingo) Sanjay Kumar Verma, after being asked to leave Canada, had told PTI, “At one point of time in my tenure, at least two bodies of students were being sent to India in body bags per week. Rather than face their parents after failure, they were committing suicide".
This was an incredible admission of gross incompetence. Was it not the responsibility of the MEA to inform students about this earlier and formally? How could the lives of Indian students be sacrificed at the altar of diplomacy? At least some lives could have been saved. And probably 1000s of others who survived but entire generations are under debt.
Similar story appears to be developing for the US.
GoI cannot prevent students from traveling but at least make it harder by offering loans from public banks only to the Tier 1 / 2 colleges and educate about the visa uncertainty.
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suvarna kapi got roasted (rather trolled) by B Hossain O at a WHOTUS roast. It was uncalled for and unbecoming of a POTUS, especially one who got a NoBull for doing bull. Typical al Haaavahdi, son of a Kenyan bigamist Patrice Lumumba University doctorate.
An Electron tried to collide with a Positron. The US will need a firewall of democracy akin to the great firewall to pull something like this wrt India
Truthsocial need presence of Indians as well. Elon could get jailed for some X crime or deported to SA.From India, we learn that national honor is not a luxury but a far-reaching strategic asset. If Israel desires to secure its standing and security, it must project firm resilience to the world.
On that note, Modi sarkar as changed the game. Bharat will strike no matter what or who is kept as a shield by the Paki's. If America places US citizens in terrorist land, then it is not Bharat's problem when there is collateral damage. We have the comprehensive national power to deal with it. No more proxy terrorist attacks on our citizens and blackmail when Bharat wants to give back.
The context is for Canada alone, not North America - the student population for NA >> 500K. In Canada alone, the Indian student population is ~350K. The number you have cited for suicide rates among college students is correct - ~6 suicides / 100k per year = ~20 per year for 350K. Verma says 2 per week = >100 per year == 5X more.gakakkad wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025 06:55 The suicide rate in the college age range is around 6-10/100k per year . If there are are 500k Indian students in North America , the statistically expected numbers are 30-50 suicides a year or almost 1 a week . Is there evidence to suggest the rate is higher ? What should GOI do here ?
@gakakkad cited some data but you have a knee jerk response.Jay wrote: ↑07 Sep 2025 07:03
This is such a short sighted take. Do you want government to dictate every part of your and your family life? I mean someone who is an adult and who had 17 years of formal education, who has their family support, should be competent enough to make their own life calls and if they are not in a position to make a positive judgment call about their life, what do you want the government to step in and do? Where is their family and what are they doing in not supporting their children and putting tremendous pressure on then compelling them to take this drastic measure? By this same logic, should we demand the government to force parents to take a test, and prove their competency before letting them get married?
This logic of putting every problem at the altar of government does no one any good. Somethings come under personal responsibility, some under societal, and some under government. For every 2 students that cannot make it, there are a few dozen more that use these loans to crawl their way into middle class and there are at least a few more who do it even well. It is not all MEA's responsibility to guide day to day decisions of a student in a foreign land.
Times have changed - we are talking about 2024-2025 when Indian students are under increasing stress and finding it difficult to get entry level jobs. I would believe the ex-HC when he say 2 bodies were sent on average per day. The basis for my argument is his statement - if you choose to ignore it (literally the horse's mouth) and rely on some other data source, there is nothing further to discuss.gakakkad wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025 01:04 https://archive.ph/FPc4y
Between 2018-2023 a total of 403 Indian students have died abroad (in all countries and sadly that includes countries like Iran /Ukraine /Romania etc . In Canada number included 91 in 5-6 year time frame that comes to 12-15 a year .. this is all causes though I suspect a large chunk are suicide or accidents .
The number is not unusually large .
There are many things to be said about the massive number of indian students abroad . Increased suicide risk in Canada doesn't appear to be one of them.
Again I have no monkey in this circus . I think the Canadian government lead by the liberal party in stinking like hell for the past decade or so and likely facilitated if not ran a human trafficking ring centered around Punjab. But Indian suicides is not one thing we can genuinely corner them on .
I think this is a good time to get a favorable trade deal from them though. As their balls are squeezed by trump .
I may be stereotyping a bit, but most Indian kids are put under undue pressure to fulfill their parent's academic ambitions than their own. It almost sounds like we need to provide a lot of counseling to the parents than the kids who are pursuing certain type of career. Add to that the pressure of coming to a foreign country and studying is not a joke. Finally kids do face some sort of unspoken shadow racism in the western world. The combination of all these should push them easily into depression and mental illness.gakakkad wrote: ↑08 Sep 2025 01:04 https://archive.ph/FPc4y
Between 2018-2023 a total of 403 Indian students have died abroad (in all countries and sadly that includes countries like Iran /Ukraine /Romania etc . In Canada number included 91 in 5-6 year time frame that comes to 12-15 a year .. this is all causes though I suspect a large chunk are suicide or accidents .
The number is not unusually large .
There are many things to be said about the massive number of indian students abroad . Increased suicide risk in Canada doesn't appear to be one of them.
Again I have no monkey in this circus . I think the Canadian government lead by the liberal party in stinking like hell for the past decade or so and likely facilitated if not ran a human trafficking ring centered around Punjab. But Indian suicides is not one thing we can genuinely corner them on .
I think this is a good time to get a favorable trade deal from them though. As their balls are squeezed by trump .
Sorry you feel that way. But it is not a kneejerk response.
There is a difference between a general travel advisory which will equally apply to all the populace as against picking favorites by granting loans to people only from certain colleges or that sort. This is an incredible level of picking and choosing who can win and who can be banished. That's what gakakkad saab was proposing and what I'm saying is a bad policy.Governments regularly issue travel advisories, Indian HC in Ireland released an security advisory recently - are Indian adult citizens in Ireland not capable of recognizing issues concerning their security on their own?? Or for that matter, adult American citizens because US Consulates release 100s of advisories every year.
I'm not sure if the country is losing forex, as remittances sent by these same people are a major source of revenue. Same with the loans given by the banks which seem to be fulfilled. If there are a significant write offs, then this would not be a revenue stream for banks as well. And what is this thing about bad reputation? Ig GOI doesn't care much about some of these folks behaving badly in India, why would they police their behavior when they are in a foreign land? Jho Thane mein chutiya woh Toronto mey bhi chutiya and I rather GOI puts its efforts in policing these chitiyas in Thane than in Toronto.It is in our interest to influence this in a positive way since our citizens get a raw deal and the country loses forex and gets a bad reputation unnecessarily. It is limited not just to students but also to families who try to migrate legally or otherwise.