Understanding the US - Again

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 12 Sep 2025 19:05

Tanaji wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 12:33
g.sarkar wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 09:44 Personally I would not kill anyone in Texas.
Horrifying article.
G.Sarkarji, wouldn’t it be better if you not kill anywhere in the world and not just in Texas?

Sirji,
Southern Sates are putting inmates to death regularly, and Texas more so. Hence that comment. Even Ted Bundy made the mistake killing in a Southern State (Florida).
Gautam

saip · Post by **saip** » 12 Sep 2025 19:54

Manish_P wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 08:22
Vayutuvan wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 07:24 ...
I disagree.
We can disagree. That is our right.

To agree to disagree (but not violently) is one of the pillars of democracy. But the OM has turned that on its head. Voltaire is probably spinning in his grave ("I may not agree ....").
Right now US of A and Nazi Germany are somewhat apart but getting closer everyday. Who knows, if the OM gets another term (Constitution be damned) they will jive together.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Sep 2025 20:37

Deans · Post by **Deans** » 12 Sep 2025 20:43

I took Prof Graham Allison's course at Harvard (online) back in 2015, being one of the 300 who qualified, based on an essay.
His Co-professor was David Sanger, NYT Foreign affairs writer.

He's one of the best minds in the world in academia, on big power conflict.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 12 Sep 2025 20:47

@Deans ji, you used to post in Math thread. Please do spend some time there.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Sep 2025 22:03

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 07:23 IIhan Omar, while grinning, says Charlie Kirk deserved it and had it coming: "He downplayed George Floyd. and slavery."

"People say he wanted to have a civil debate... It's bullshit."

(she was on Mehdi Hasan show)

Vayutuvan ji,

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Sep 2025 22:14

Documented money flow to universities, lobbyists etc is perfectly legal, for instance as China does it. Why Qatar would provide undocumented funds is the question.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Sep 2025 22:17

Charlie Kirk was likely anti-Muslim, but he was also anti-Indian; and anti-Civil-Rights-legislation of the 1960s.

An old timer like Amber G can probably educate us on what Indian-Americans owe to the Civil Rights legislation.

The enemy of your enemy may also be an enemy.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 12 Sep 2025 22:52

Well said A_Guptaji

The American society is on the cusp of tearing itself. When the Dems win next term there is likely to be zero introspection as to why Trump came to power; it will be more of doubling down on its own excesses and blaming Reps as racists or worse. There is not a single leader in both sides that will bridge the divide. In fact the Islam pasand left will not allow any rapprochement.

Indians will be stuck in the middle - we are neither white nor Christian nor Liberal nor Islamic. Money can take us only so far….

Hriday · Post by **Hriday** » 12 Sep 2025 23:18

About the widespread gun violence in the USA. IIRC many years ago Ramana commented on a post on this forum that, during the British rule of India they soon disallowed the possession of guns in one's (British or Indian native soldiers) own home. The reason is that they quickly found that people often used guns to settle the petty fights within family or neighbours. Humans had a problem of controlling anger. And when we give them such a powerful weapon as a gun, the result will be disastrous. And Charlie Kirk was firm and advocating for the possession of guns with civilians.

rajkumar · Post by **rajkumar** » 13 Sep 2025 00:07

Hriday wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 23:18 About the widespread gun violence in the USA. IIRC many years ago Ramana commented on a post on this forum that, during the British rule of India they soon disallowed the possession of guns in one's (British or Indian native soldiers) own home. The reason is that they quickly found that people often used guns to settle the petty fights within family or neighbours. Humans had a problem of controlling anger. And when we give them such a powerful weapon as a gun, the result will be disastrous. And Charlie Kirk was firm and advocating for the possession of guns with civilians.

The British after 1857 systematically 'disarmed' the Indian population. They went from house to house and consifcated all weapons. Similarly they banned all Indian martial arts

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 13 Sep 2025 00:53

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 04:39
Rudradev wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 03:01 Has he said a word about "abuse" of the H1B program here? ...
Talking about instances of H1B abuse to deflect from Charlie Kirk's actual statement is a stellar example of
Those abuses were building up the frustration in the Americans including Indian-Americans. Kirk posted on X. That is the only diefference between him and the Democrats who were underhanded about it by couching in nice Haavaad language, onlee.

Bringing in "Democrats" is simply another deflection from what is relevant here.

Charlie Kirk could have posted about any issue under the sun. Instead, he chose to join a bandwagon of rabidly anti-India demagogues in specifically vilifying US-resident NRIs and Indian Americans (who have nothing to do with Indian government policy). By attacking Indian-origin people in the US at the time he did, and on the platform he did, he participated in an organized campaign to demonize us-- exploiting our vulnerable status as a micro-minority "hostage population" to bring pressure on the Modi government.

Peter Navarro took the lead in this campaign with his "Hindu"/"Maharaja"/"Brahmin" dog-whistles, and scum like Laura Ingraham and Charlie Kirk piled on to the trend, using their massive social-media reach to amplify the targeting of Indians in the United States.

No wonder you are such a fan of the Charlie Kirk/Prager University school of "debating".

OK. Now resorting to ad hominem that you are losing the argument.

How is that ad-hominem when you yourself expressed (as part of this argument) your admiration for Charlie Kirk's supposed debating skills?

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑11 Sep 2025 03:31 Chaploos or not, he did well on college campuses. He came prepared and debated well with students

This was part of your defence of Kirk from the get-go. I merely pointed out that using strawman arguments and posting claims without evidence-- as you did in the previous post-- was typical of Charlie Kirk's style of debating as well.

His views are no more anti-India/Indian than Baptist Harris, Pramila Jayapal, Ilhan Omar, Obama (how soon we forget his National Prayer address soon after returning from India where he was the chief guest for Aug 15th), Biden who sent a carrier group patrolling in the Arabian ocean right after he became POTUS, Leon Panetta saying adversaries like China and India (when he was in India addressing Indian policymakers) so on so forth.

You can abuse Democrats as much as you want, as far as I am concerned. I abuse them too when they deserve it.

But Charlie Kirk is noteworthy here and now, because his attack was on people of Indian origin in the United States. The reason he did it, as obviously evident from the context of his tweet and the content of the Laura Ingraham tweet he quoted, was in response to the policy of the government of India (specifically: Modi going to SCO instead of caving in to the absurd demands of Chump and his thugs).

Charlie Kirk was serving an agenda to focus targeted hatred against Indian-origin people in the United States as a proxy for the Indian government. He did this by calling for specific discrimination against Indian-origin people (a violation of US anti-discrimination laws, by the way) on the completely false grounds that legal immigration from India causes harm to Americans. Rationally, there is no other way to interpret his tweet, given its timing and context.

I also don't feel any need to wear my emotional connect with India on my sleeve. I will leave it to those who are feeling guilty that they are not giving anything back to their motherland. I do my part. I don't feel guilty for acting in self-interest of my family and my children who are second generation Indian-Americans.

You don't have to wear anything on your sleeve. In American society, your Indian origin already speaks for itself in many ways. A target is already being painted on you and your family by the likes of Charlie Kirk/Laura Loomer/Ann Coulter/Peter Navarro/Stephen Miller.

From their point of view, Indian-Americans must all be thrown under the bus as long as Chump's Nobel Prize ambitions are threatened by Modi's refusal to kowtow. They have always resented our very existence here and now they have Trump's anti-India tantrum as a pretext to push for our erasure.

You think this is about "guilt" because you refuse to confront the fact that everyone who shares your national origin is under attack by ideological sociopaths. Waving the flag and repeating CPAC talking points will not help you evade the consequences at all.

In all sincerity, I hope your family and children remain unaffected by this deliberate targeting.

I am going to disagree with you on this C. Kirk murder

I have no disagreement on the murder. Murder is murder and the perpetrator, once proven guilty, should face all the consequences of the law.

My point is that Charlie Kirk was a vile specimen of humanity when he was alive.

Re Khobragade, I searched your posts . No posts from that time exist. Probably they are never archived or were lost. As far I remember,your first reaction was (paraphrasing here ofc) to blame DK for her corruption in India. I even remember @ramana gaaru requesting you to stand up for DK and India.

One thing more indicative of losing an argument than an ad-hominem attack, is an ad-hominem attack with zero evidence. Your claim regarding my views on the Devyani Khobragade episode is false. The more false claims you make-- whether you make them intentionally or mistakenly-- the more your credibility suffers in all matters on which you express opinions.

move on. Peace.

Fair enough.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 13 Sep 2025 01:04

A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 22:17 The enemy of your enemy may also be an enemy.

Why this isn't obvious to more people, I'll never understand.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 13 Sep 2025 01:33

Hriday wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 23:18 About the widespread gun violence in the USA. IIRC many years ago Ramana commented on a post on this forum that, during the British rule of India they soon disallowed the possession of guns in one's (British or Indian native soldiers) own home. The reason is that they quickly found that people often used guns to settle the petty fights within family or neighbours. Humans had a problem of controlling anger. And when we give them such a powerful weapon as a gun, the result will be disastrous. And Charlie Kirk was firm and advocating for the possession of guns with civilians.

correction.

Indians had weapons for long -centuries. I do not recollect anything to hide or ban the weapons by any Hindu king in the past
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Post 1857 Indian rebelion, the brithsit banned the possession of guns by Indians. They destroyed all gun producing factories of those times by Indians.Britshits were rattled by Indians using guns to kill brithsits.

The Ganga region- Sanatani heartland was the biggest gun producing factories of those times.

(many parallells to tactics used by britshits used in America against native Indians were modified to be used against Bharatiyas in AkhandBharat)

Humans had a problem of controlling anger. And when we give them such a powerful weapon as a gun, the result will be disastrous

Amongst all cultures existing today only Sanatan Dharma has tools for control fo anger, avoid excessive hate , modify behaviours etc , self introspection and many others. Despite genocidal tendecies of book cultures we as sanatanis dont narbor such hate or other tendencies towards these abrahamics. Will avoid here as not the right thread.

maybe write a little more and explore what science has to say on these.

krisna · Post by **krisna** » 13 Sep 2025 01:39

there are a few comments regarding hitler and nazs.

Hitler was christian and hated jews accoridngly. he followed the medevial hatred of jews by christians. Nothing else.
The cross used was that of christian one in his home town church. he had a liking for it.

Later his cross was made into swastike -Hindu hatred by britshit missionary and spread worldwide.

Regarding his tretament of jews -- he and his team stduied the slave treatemnt in usa and got plenty of ideas. It is said he had some germans sent to usa to know about these.

This is known but less reported in mainstream media.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:02

chetak wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 22:03 Vayutuvan ji,
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Once that is done, they will slit the throats of the left. CCP has a handle on these buggers but then they are not really left anymore. The left CG has shifted to Europe and the Atlantists in massa, and Canada.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:05

Tanaji wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 22:52 Well said A_Guptaji, There is not a single leader in both sides that will bridge the divide. In fact the Islam pasand left will not allow any rapprochement.

Rahm Emanuel and Josh Shapiro on the Dem side and Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikky Haley on the GOPers side come to mind.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:09

Hriday wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 23:18 About the widespread gun violence in the USA. IIRC many years ago Ramana commented on a post on this forum that, during the British rule of India they soon disallowed the possession of guns in one's (British or Indian native soldiers) own home.

As @raj kumar ji said, it was done after First war for Independence of 1857. Till then EIC was ruling India. Only in 1857, we came under the Crown, i.e. British govt rule. They abolished private ownership of firearms so as to prevent a repeat of 1776 in India. They came pretty close to losing in 1857 itself.

Rakesh · Post by **Rakesh** » 13 Sep 2025 03:10

Oh my! Where is the face palm smiley!!!!

VIDEO: https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1966548890674467200 ---> "I wish we could blame this on Muslims or migrants, but turns out it was one of us." what a wild thing to say.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:22

Rudradev wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 00:53 specifically vilifying US-resident NRIs and Indian Americans (who have nothing to do with Indian government policy). By attacking
...
Fair enough.

I interpreted the post on X differently. I interpreted it as against new legal immigration of unskilled workers coming in due to family reunion and take up jobs in Gas stations, motels, 7-11s, DQs to the detriment of poor white/black folks and high school students trying to earn a little bit money on the side to help out their parents. I take "America is full" as it is full now but not before. Which makes sense if you look at the history and what is going in the job market right now. I am 100% sure that US will be OK even if they (we?) do not get a large number of H1Bs to do sysadmin jobs (which can be done remotely quite easily) and/or online support service centers.

Costs will go up somewhat but the quality also will be better. Whatever people feel about how good Indian call center folks are, they still have an accent when it comes to servicing the US customers. Also there is the risk private information leaking out and used to to phishing and others Western Union/Soc Security scams.

They have to start tightening somewhere and India is the most visible as well the top country to supply H1Bs as well as large call center services out of India.

Peace.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:29

Rudradev wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 00:53 One thing more indicative of losing an argument than an ad-hominem attack, is an ad-hominem attack with zero evidence. Your claim regarding my views on the Devyani Khobragade episode is false. The more false claims you make-- whether you make them intentionally or mistakenly-- the more your credibility suffers in all matters on which you express opinions.

move on. Peace.
Fair enough.

I will take your word for it. I take back my accusation and I apologize for misremembering and then go onto slander you without evidence.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:35

Rakesh wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 03:10 Oh my! Where is the face palm smiley!!!!

VIDEO: https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1966548890674467200 ---> "I wish we could blame this on Muslims or migrants, but turns out it was one of us." what a wild thing to say.

That too with Kash Patel looking straight ahead in the background. Ridiculous fellows these Church of the LDS guys. It is embarrassing to say the least. But are we sure this is not a deep fake? The guy who posted works in Deep Fake technology. Let us verify before reposting.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 03:40

MuslimMatters
@MuslimMatters
1h
That’s inaccurate tweet. Especially putting it in quotes makes it sound he said it. He didn’t. It’s a stretch that he even implied Muslim (not one of us could be a non American or a non Utah resident).
16 5.5K

Yeah. Gov never mentioned "muslim". He did say that he was hoping that it is somebody from outside the country or from outside Utah. Slightly better but still quite embarrassing. Question is whether this guy Taylor Robinson is a Wignat. Then case closed. These buggers are no better than radical Islamists.

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 13 Sep 2025 08:50

The statement by the Utah governor was delayed so Kash Patel could get his photo op there. Kash Patel has said NOTHING about the Indian motel owner in Dallas, TX beheaded by an illegal alien from Cuba. In this action/inaction, Kash Patel is demonstrating the same incompetence as other Trump cabinet members.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 13 Sep 2025 09:41

Mort ji, but but but Kash Patel touched the feet of his parents before taking oath on BG.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 13 Sep 2025 11:34

There is a famous White Nationalist book called The Turner Diaries-- one of the very few books to actually be banned in the USA, IIRC.

Written by White Nationalist William Pierce, the book is a fictionalized (but very detailed and realistic) account of a "race war" in the USA, in which the whites re-enslave the blacks and eliminate virtually all other races. It is so detailed and realistic in terms of the techniques and methods it describes that it was deemed a security risk by the FBI, and owning a copy draws the attention of the 3-letter agencies. Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bomber, 1995) cited the book as a primary source of inspiration for his act.

One of the techniques used to forcibly trigger the "race war"-- a key goal of the White Nationalist heroes of the book-- is sniper attacks. Against black citizens, especially high-profile individuals, elected officials and those working for police or 3-letter agencies-- but ALSO against white "mainstream" politicians, especially conservatives, so that the white population blames black militants for the assassination and gets radicalized.

The idea is that if popular right-wing or even far-right figures are taken out, the anger of the white people who previously supported them will be channeled fully towards supporting the extreme White Nationalists instead (because they are the only option remaining). This would serve as an "accelerationist" technique to forcibly ignite a race war.

I wonder if the guy who killed Charlie Kirk had this kind of Turner Diaries scenario in mind.

Yayavar · Post by **Yayavar** » 13 Sep 2025 11:51

Didn't get banned but is restricted or not carried by libs or colleges in many places. Not on Amazon either

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Sep 2025 16:29

Rudradev wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 11:34 I wonder if the guy who killed Charlie Kirk had this kind of Turner Diaries scenario in mind.

What We Know About the Anti-Fascist and Bizarre Internet Memes Written on Charlie Kirk Shooter Ammo
Megyn Kelly begins the show by discussing the breaking news that the alleged Charlie Kirk has been taken into custody, the details about the 22-year-old suspect, the truth about the "anti-fascist" and bizarre internet memes including about furries engraved on his ammo, and more.

What May Have Radicalized the Charlie Kirk Assassin and the Details of His Father Turning Him In
Megyn Kelly discusses what may have led to the radicalization of Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin, the possible role of college in shaping his ideology, how his father recognized him and convinced him to turn himself into authorities, and more.

He got affected by Woke Leftist ideology from college.

Now there are things happening like you mentioned
Y'all Are Mouthing Off To Charlie Kirk's Wife? We Are Done Talking.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 13 Sep 2025 16:51

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 03:09
Hriday wrote: ↑12 Sep 2025 23:18 About the widespread gun violence in the USA. IIRC many years ago Ramana commented on a post on this forum that, during the British rule of India they soon disallowed the possession of guns in one's (British or Indian native soldiers) own home.
As @raj kumar ji said, it was done after First war for Independence of 1857. Till then EIC was ruling India. Only in 1857, we came under the Crown, i.e. British govt rule. They abolished private ownership of firearms so as to prevent a repeat of 1776 in India. They came pretty close to losing in 1857 itself.

1857 was their worst nightmare and that nightmare persisted in every britshit gora until these cowards cut and ran in 1947, following the Naval Mutiny that triggered their primal fears of survival in such extremely unfriendly environments.

They remained brutal till the end because ruling with an iron grip was the only solution that occurred to them.

In fact, their fears were greatly exacerbated in 1947 because roaming around freely in India, at that time, were the million odd britshit trained Indian soldiers who had fought in WWII and that was the reality that terrified them, because in case hostilities broke out between the Indian freedom fighters and the britshit Indian Army in India, commanded by goras but manned almost entirely by native Indian troops and the goras felt abjectly terrorized in case the native troops turned on their own gora officers, civil servants and their gori women, like it happened before in 1857, only this time they knew that none of them would survive to tell the tale

The britshits made sure that the Indians couldn't keep their private arms and the amrikis made sure that they could keep theirs.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Sep 2025 19:33

Seems a fallout of Charlie Kirk Murder
https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1966561939347406904
@MeghUpdates
BIG

President Trump has announced that George Soros and his entire network will be investigated under RICO charges.

He claims Soros is behind the funding, training, and radicalization of young people, fueling terror and extremism.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Sep 2025 19:37

Groypers are a faction of MAGA who are/were fiercely anti-Charlie-Kirk. (I was unaware of such schisms.). They would send their people to these Charlie Kirk public “debates” and try to show him up as a not-real MAGA.

Wiki:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

Scroll down to Groyper Wars.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Sep 2025 19:46

Wiki is fully loony left, especially anything related to ideological space is fully occupied by them. They don't have much manpower to monitor every page, but those pages with interest will be heavily edited with leftist narratives. It cannot be used as a source. Any such links to articles can be posted directly here. Even that mostly will be leftist channels.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 13 Sep 2025 20:01

uddu wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 19:46 Wiki is fully loony left, especially anything related to ideological space is fully occupied by them. They don't have much manpower to monitor every page, but those pages with interest will be heavily edited with leftist narratives. It cannot be used as a source. Any such links to articles can be posted directly here. Even that mostly will be leftist channels.

Quoting wiki as a source is questionable, but what wiki does best than most other pages is it actually attributes/links where that info came from so you can go down the rabbit hole and verify the source yourself. That's very important in this day and age where SM amplifies "he said-she said" arguments to the hilt.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 13 Sep 2025 20:21

uddu wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 19:46 Wiki is fully loony left, especially anything related to ideological space is fully occupied by them.

Yes, they are.

But "Megyn Kelly" is hardly a reliable, nonpartisan source either.

By the way, the whole point of the Turner Diaries scenario IS to create false-flag impressions that the assassinations of white conservative figures are being carried out by blacks or left-wing extremists. Today, that would be accomplished by showing 'evidence' that the killer had 'antifascist', 'anti-racist' etc. posts on social media.

Very interesting that the guy was turned in by his father and has now 'lawyered up' refusing to say more. So turning himself in was obviously not a function of guilt or feeling the need to confess.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Sep 2025 20:24

Rudradev wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 20:21
uddu wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 19:46 Wiki is fully loony left, especially anything related to ideological space is fully occupied by them.
But "Megyn Kelly" is a reliable, nonpartisan source?

Very much, when you have to dig out the details from the opposite camp. If you want details of Republicans go to MSNBC and CNN, they will dig out and give you details of every nitty gritty of their enemy. There is nothing non partisan as such.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Sep 2025 20:27

Jay wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 20:01
uddu wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 19:46 Wiki is fully loony left, especially anything related to ideological space is fully occupied by them. They don't have much manpower to monitor every page, but those pages with interest will be heavily edited with leftist narratives. It cannot be used as a source. Any such links to articles can be posted directly here. Even that mostly will be leftist channels.
Quoting wiki as a source is questionable, but what wiki does best than most other pages is it actually attributes/links where that info came from so you can go down the rabbit hole and verify the source yourself. That's very important in this day and age where SM amplifies "he said-she said" arguments to the hilt.

Those links are New York times and Al Guardian. When the Lefty loonies want a narrative, they will sensor the articles of interest and quote and enforce their their own channels and ideology. Wiki can be used on anything technical in nature. Even if Climate Change is looked into it will be censored in similar fashion.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 13 Sep 2025 20:29

uddu wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 20:24
Rudradev wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 20:21

But "Megyn Kelly" is a reliable, nonpartisan source?
Very much, when you have to dig out the details from the opposite camp. If you want details of Republicans go to MSNBC and CNN, they will dig out and give you details of every nitty gritty of their enemy. There is nothing non partisan as such.

That makes Megyn Kelly an especially poor source for info about Dems, and it makes MSNBC a very poor source for details about Republicans. They both have agendas and will put out convenient spins and false information to smear the other side.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 13 Sep 2025 20:31

Obviously they have agenda. its wrong to assume they are wrong about their opponent. They get very good news about the oppositions wrong doing and agenda, while hiding their own. They are like the gossiping woman who tells stores about others. If you want information, you get it this way. No so called nonpartisan source exist or if anyone try to be neutral, it will be bland and with 0 information. You be reading it fully knowing what they represent.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 13 Sep 2025 20:33

uddu wrote: ↑13 Sep 2025 20:31 Obviously. They are like the gossiping woman who tells stores about others. If you want information, you get it this way. No so called nonpartisan source exist or if anyone try to be neutral, it will be bland and with 0 information.

Only if you consider 'gossip' to be the same as 'information'.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 13 Sep 2025 20:35

Anyone here thinking, Charlie Kirk was made a martyr by a certain faction within MAGA ?