Understanding the US - Again

[Mort Walker]

Kash Patel is not the least competent MAGA, perhaps war secy Hegseth qualifies for that.

That award goes to the Secretary of Debt Scott Bessent.

[A_Gupta]

There is a new Prophet, recently martyred, and blasphemy against Him is punishable by deportation, loss of employment, doxxing and social shunning. You should not take His Name in vain, and quoting his own words can be blasphemy too; only the Anointed are allowed to quote Him without penalty.

The irony is this from the very people who claimed to be fighting against "cancel culture".

[Vayutuvan]

> The irony is this from the very people who claimed to be fighting against "cancel culture".

What aboutry. It is wrong whoever does it. See how Fetterman is being treated by Dems. He has spoken against Dems celebrating Kirk's assassination. He is also a Jew. Double whammy for him. Naturally he has become a hero for the GOPers now. Just like Dubya was lionized by Michelle after he went against Orange chimp.

Let me engage in my own what-aboutry now the smartalec know-it-alls opened the gates wide open.

KD was the most incompetent of all the executive in the past 5 years. Even Biden did better than her 2021-2023. He started wandering off literally and figuratively only in 2024.

[gakakkad]

Kash Patel is not the least competent MAGA, perhaps war secy Hegseth qualifies for that.

That award goes to the Secretary of Debt Scott Bessent.

Hungseth , basanti , nutlick and rfk jr in no particular order . Of course Navarro etc and other lower level ones as well

[vijayk]

Trump's Paki policy paying off

speaknsee @speaknsee
PAKISTAN BOMBS PLANTED IN THE U.S.A - REACTION
@realDonaldTrump
@marcorubio
@JDVance
@narendramodi
@DrSJaishankar
@elonmusk
@MeghUpdates

https://x.com/speaknsee/status/1968094347309834368

[A_Gupta]

For your enjoyment - the New Prophet vs a student:
https://youtu.be/xjmdI2s_K78?si=7pvwHVu-0uVoH_g1

[chetak]

The real reason that everyone wants in on UKR and are refusing to let go

[Vayutuvan]

For your enjoyment - the New Prophet vs a student:
https://youtu.be/xjmdI2s_K78?si=7pvwHVu-0uVoH_g1

She is good debater. But she is working towards her PhD in this same area at Oxford. I would expect nothing less than this performs of hers against a college dropout generalist.

I would like to what her MPhil/PhD thesese say about varNaashramadharma and her views on Modi/BJP/RSS. Would she be willing to come to IITKgp and debate J. Sai Deepak or Dr. Ranganathan on these and other issues if she has a different take.

When would people realize that our enemy's enemy is not necessarily our friend?

Also, I am sure all ivy leagues and places like Berkeley, UChicago, Kelllogs/Jounalism schools of Northwestern, Stanford all would have a debate club or society. Why did they not debate Kirk in that setting instead of letting Antifa and outsiders do goonda gardi and fist fights on campus?!!! That would have been more illuminating than let Kirk do freeform open debates on campuses?

It is still not too late for these "elite" colleges now that Shapiro is rumored to be taking over Turning Point USA.

[Tanaji]

Both sound insufferable and examples of people who one would not want to associate with in spare time. Life is too short….

[A_Gupta]

I posted that Kirk vs Student for one reason and one reason alone - Kirk’s statement that third -world immigrants are turning the US into a third world country.

Yes, that means you too, Americans of Indian origin.

If you didn’t notice that Kirk said it, you need to sharpen your ability to catch the signal in all of the noise. The fight of whether Western women should eschew a career and have a lot of kids instead is not your fight. You are not Western, and the chances are that on BRF you are not a woman. But for Kirk and his political party that control all three branches of the US federal government, you are a third world immigrant. It doesn’t matter if you are a CEO of a large Silicon Valley company; if not Kirk, then his associate in the White House, Stephen Miller has made it clear that even so you are ruining American culture. They don’t want you in the US, they don’t want your children in the US, and they have the power to make it so, or are perilously close to it.

Nothing that the student said is a threat to you. She doesn’t enjoy the ear of a President with unconstrained power, and she is in England, not the USA. England is not a country where the Secretary of State has made noises about revoking the passports of citizens and the visas of non-citizens for being critical of Kirk.

[A_Gupta]

Goodbye, First Amendment!
ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Off Air for Charlie Kirk Comments After F.C.C. Pressure

[Amber G.]

^^^
Kimmel.
-.& Colbert.
-Suits against the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and 60 Minutes.
-Extorting settlements from CBS, ABC, and others.
-Blocking the AP's access to the White House.
- Firing data scientists ...
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Just so we’re clear, this is the clip that got Jimmy Kimmel’s show shelved by ABC.
This is also what Jimmy Kimmel said the day that Charlie Kirk was assassinated:

“

Instead of the angry finger-pointing, can we just for one day agree that it is horrible and monstrous to shoot another human? On behalf of my family, we send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocents who fall victim to senseless gun violence.

”

[Amber G.]

Trump: I banned all government censorship and restored free speech

[Vayutuvan]

If someone wants to do something about research funding in the US, please do take advantage of this platform. Stop complaining about Kirk and Kimmel and other demagogues on both sides and do take action if you are so passionate about it.

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[Vayutuvan]

I posted that Kirk vs Student for one reason and one reason alone - Kirk’s statement that third -world immigrants are turning the US into a third world country.
...

Can somebody actually debate that India is not a thirld world country, if the metric is per capita (both nominal and PPP)?

"Third world" has lost its racist connotation (it never had actually) long ago. Are we even at the level of Mexico, Tunisia, Chile, Peru etc. in terms of quality of life for the average Indian?

That said, I have another explanation. During Trump's 1st term, when his admin instituted more vetting for certain countries, Dems demonized him by saying that he singled out Mohammedan countries only. Also they said he and Gropers are Islamophobic.

He shifted US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. Now GOPers are taking a different tack that "we will discriminate based on how poor their original country. As for integrating into the US, they are targeting folks who are marrying their own country/faith people to increase their numbers.

In Europe, it is the Mohammedans who did not integrate. They are the ones who are getting into positions of power and pushing anti-semitic and anti-Israel narrative. The same is beginning to happen in the US as well.

If I were in the admin what would I do to not to come across as islamophobic? It is essential ofc, given that we (americans) are dependant on Islamic oil. I will call out everybody publicly but target by our FBI/CIA/Secret Service, only those who are acting against the interests of the US. We Indian-Americans and Hindu-Americans are just collateral damage in the short term.

As long we weather these 3-4 years of villainization, there will be more of us and less of the Mohammedans.

Some of you who are criticizing Indian-Americans for not organizing themselves and such, have no ideas as to how we can survive for a few years without throwing our lot with the Democrats (Dumbocrat Elite).

On what basis, ya'll asking me and my family to support KD Harris, P. Jayapal, R. Krishnamoorthy, Ro Khanna ("my mother told me that my granddad was against emergency" fame), and the like? Even S. Thanedar is not as snow white as he is made out to be.

[A_Gupta]

Trump said today in England that he got the US $17 trillion of investments in 8 months, and there is still time in the year for more; Biden in comparison got only $250 billion in the final year of his term.

Reality is less exciting.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ROWFDIQ027S

[drnayar]

Trump said today in England that he got the US $17 trillion of investments in 8 months, and there is still time in the year for more; Biden in comparison got only $250 billion in the final year of his term.

Reality is less exciting.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/ROWFDIQ027S

Trumps metrics are what he says , who cares about reality anyway ..

[Vayutuvan]

@tanaji ji,

For your enjoyment - the New Prophet vs a student:
https://youtu.be/xjmdI2s_K78?si=7pvwHVu-0uVoH_g1

I give you the above video of Winston Marshall demolishing Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats. Same place - Oxford Debate Club (or whatever they call themselves. I wouldn't be far too wrong if I said - Lords of Debate )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFmjgbdNNgw

I would like to see Winston Marshall and the woman debater from @A_Gupta's video go head to head on "Who is a woman?" question.