Understanding the US - Again

[Tanaji]

It can be changed but it is difficult. It should be. At least they, France, India, etc. have a written constitution to change,

UK has a few phataahua documents like magna carta, historical precedence, powedered wigs, hereditary house of lords and head of state. If some bozos say there is a constitution crisis, everybody runs around screaming c crisis c crisis. They want Charles III to intervene. Politicos, “constipation” egg spurts and politicos get lot of TV FaceTime. Finally they declare it has been avoided. Then everybody goes back to their clubs and to their town houses in London to have a go at their mistresses. Mohammedan grooming gangs continue to rape poor white brutishiter.

Vayutuvanji, I wonder and personally I think it will be interesting to see how things play out. When constitutions of India or US were written or not as in case of UK, the implicit assumption was that the people in various pillars of power would be a so called landed gentry or upper class or basically gentlemen. So only the very minimal checks and balances were put in (inspite of US tomtoming its much vaunted safeguards inherent in their system of government) . There was never a consideration where a Orange man types would come in, subvert the judiciary and legislature try to become above all. He hasn’t succeeded yet of course (despite what Dems say) but he is on that path. He could do that because of another peculiar aspect of US polity: essentially two party system. So people are forced to go with one or the other even if they don’t agree with both…

The UK hasn’t faced an orange man type scenario yet: Farage is the cheap temu version of Trump, and polls show he may become the PM if polls were held now, but polls are 3 years away. Plus judicial subversion is not really a thing in UK like in US where one can stack judges. Still, absent a constitution and a huge reliance on precedents in case law : does it means in theory an Orange man scenario is easier? I don’t know. Plus UK has more parties…

In India, the sheer amount of parties and their street power means orange man scenarios are difficult to pull off. Yes Indira did it for 2 years but really, it wasn’t sustainable and I doubt if it is possible now with the huge population. It worked for Indira as cops to police ratio was high and GoI was the only game in town for everything…

I guess I am rambling and off topic…

[Vayutuvan]

@tanaji gaaru

Both parties want to stack the judges across the spectrum. But the US does have a lengthy and gruelling open to public hearings for all appointments.

When GOPers appoint judges, Dems cirb and vice versa. But at least everything is transparent. Some judges get denied appointments like in the case of Bork. IDK whether any of the Dem nominees were every denied the appointment.

Same goes for the administration at all levels.

[A_Gupta]

To quote: In an era before professional standing armies were common, state-organized militias, made up of armed citizens, were the primary force for national defense. The Second Amendment aimed to secure the effectiveness of these militias by protecting citizens' rights to own firearms, which they supplied themselves.

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The ownership of machine guns has been strongly regulated for decades, and there has been no serious Second Amendment challenge to those laws, as far as I know. The application of the Second Amendment is selective.

[A_Gupta]

@Tanaji, the Federalist Papers do consider the possibility of an Orange Man. But the point of view they had is that the various institutions would be jealous of their powers and not easily cede them to another branch of government.

The American founders did not anticipate the two party system, as far as I know, one of their big failures. Also the two parties have sown up the market - made it very difficult for any new party to enter, by all kinds of rules and regulations.

As long as both parties were fighting each other for the center which was a huge majority, from their positions on the right or the left, the situation was stable. But when the American electorate polarized, “ Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world.”.

[Vayutuvan]

As for the multiparty system, take India itself. Other than BJP, all other parties are dynast parties. I would take two parties - slightly liberal and slightly conservative but capitalist nationalistic, over the multiparty INO of India.

In India, if the budget doesn't pass, the govt falls. In the US, the govt merely shuts down till all constituencies do some give and take and reopen the govt. I will take a system of imposing short time pain to avoid chaos than coalition horse trading with unreliable politicos of CBN-Nitish Kumar ilk. Or the Dravidian or SS BSers.

[Vayutuvan]

‘No Name Given’: Oklahoma nabs 125 illegal-immigrant drivers
Ray Carter | September 29, 2025

https://ocpathink.org/post/independent- ... nt-drivers

State and federal law enforcement officials have arrested 125 illegal immigrants during a targeted enforcement action along Interstate 40 in western Oklahoma, Gov. Kevin Stitt announced today.

Under Operation Guardian, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol (OHP), in partnership with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), encountered numerous commercial truck drivers operating with licenses issued by sanctuary states, including one individual whose New York commercial driver’s license (CDL) identified the individual as “No Name Given.”



“If New York wants to hand out CDLs to illegal immigrants with ‘No Name Given,’ that’s on them. The moment they cross into Oklahoma, they answer to our laws,” Stitt said. “I want to thank our troopers and ICE officials for their hard work. This is about keeping Oklahomans safe.”

During the Operation Guardian enforcement action, Stitt announced that law-enforcement officials apprehended more than 125 illegal immigrants from multiple countries, including India, Uzbekistan, China, Russia, Georgia, Turkey, Tajikistan, Ukraine, and Mauritania.

In some self-proclaimed “sanctuary” states, local and state officials have actively taken steps to protect illegal immigrants from immigration enforcement, including through the issuance of driver’s licenses to people who entered the nation illegally.

That practice has come under fire since some of those drivers reportedly cannot read English and do not know U.S. traffic laws.
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Citing an ongoing national audit, federal officials said that in California alone, more than 25 percent of non-domiciled CDLs reviewed were improperly issued.

“What our team has discovered should disturb and anger every American,” Duffy said. “Licenses to operate a massive, 80,000-pound truck are being issued to dangerous foreign drivers—oftentimes illegally. This is a direct threat to the safety of every family on the road, and I won’t stand for it. Today’s actions will prevent unsafe foreign drivers from renewing their license and hold states accountable to immediately invalidate improperly issued licenses.”

The federal review found that California had issued a commercial driver’s license to one driver from Brazil that included endorsements to drive a passenger bus and a school bus. The individual’s license was valid for months after the driver’s legal presence expired.

Federal officials said there have been at least five fatal crashes occurring since January involving non-domiciled CDL holders. Colorado, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas, and Washington were also identified as states with licensing patterns not consistent with federal regulations.

[Vayutuvan]

“Trump HUMILIATES Dems Over DEMANDING Funding of ILLEGALS Healthcare & A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN”

0:00- Intro
2:10- speaker, Mike Johnson Slams Democrats on CNN
3:33-Trump post Satire-post about Dems Are MAD
6:06- DEMOCRATS ON CNN FUND ILLEGALS
9:16- DEM Melissa Hortman Voted NO For ILLEGALS
10:37- SHUT IT DOWN AMERICANS SAY ONLINE
13:08- DEMS said no To ILLEGALS IN 2000 Against BUSH
16:11- DEMS ARE DIRTY “Final Thoughts “

First two minutes is great. Hillary Clinton in 1993-94 time frame talking about Healthcare for illegal immigrants. Looks like Medicare has become better now so much so that Dems want to shut down the govt if illegals - 11 millions - do not receive healthcare. At 6:06 mark.

(Added later): 13:08 mark. That is very very very interesting.

[A_Gupta]

Jonathan V Last.
Emphasis added.

There is an inherent tension in MAGA between the obsession with “warriors,” and “war fighting,” and “lethality,” and the “Department of War” on one hand, and the “no more wars,” “we ain’t the world’s policeman,” America First isolationism on the other.

....
The America First foreign policy doctrine is one of malign isolationism: It courts strategic adversaries, so as not to antagonize them. And it antagonizes our allies in order to make sure they know they cannot count on our assistance.

The goal of America First is to never deploy the military in combat any closer or more protracted than remotely blowing up a couple Venezuelan boats or dropping bunker busters on Iranian mountains.

[Vayutuvan]

> The goal of America First is to never deploy the military in combat any closer or more protracted than remotely blowing up a couple Venezuelan boats or dropping bunker busters on Iranian mountains.

Fine with me. I don't want my kids to shed blood for Pukraine or Kuwait (as in Desert storm) or support Qatari narrative in their colleges.

[chetak]

[A_Gupta]

Retd. Major Gaurav Arya on the US government shutdown.(Hindi)
https://youtu.be/YhA95A4Af0g?si=38wK_v1gfaNLcRSr

Major Arya also touches on West Asia. From him I learned that the Hamas office in Qatar was set up by the request of the US. Major Arya says that whatever you think about Netanyahu, he does what he says. It is Trump that bombed Iran in the middle of negotiations; gave the green light to Israel to bomb Qatar and then feigned outrage. He says now that there are two versions of Trump's 20 point plan out there, depending on the audience.

[uddu]

Trump TRIGGERS The Left With Viral Sombrero Meme
A meme meant to satirize the absurd lengths Democrats would go to for votes caused the left to hyperventilate as they repeatedly got trolled by the President and the internet at large.

[Tanaji]

As I grow older I now realise why our wise sages have said to start slowly withdrawing from worldly affairs and get on the path to bhakti.

[sanjaykumar]

I started with Twitter. A cesspool of the low IQ the incorrigible and the absurd.

[Vayutuvan]

I started with Twitter. A cesspool of the low IQ the incorrigible and the absurd.

No withdrawal symptoms?

[Vayutuvan]

"He kept his word in all the deals we have made"

In this 2013 interview with Piers Morgan, Bill Clinton described Vladimir Putin as highly intelligent and someone who keeps his word.....

and these






Unfortunately we Amrus were misled by Kiltons, Ombaba, and Chucky "doll" Schumer that Putin is another Yeltsin. Too late that Biden found out that he is ambitious and made of sterner stuff.

[sanjaykumar]

No withdrawal symptoms at all.

I learnt that it was an impediment to in depth reading and learning. It highjacked my interest in my passions, in my audiophile music and automobiles. In conversations. In biological developments that I like to keep abreast of.

I suspect Twitter is like self medication with drugs or alcohol. It gives a false sense of engagement.

I have never enjoyed my humble life as much as after being rid of it. And I was only compulsively on it for 3 weeks. The dopamine hit was toxic after a while. I would like to see the neurobiology of this devilry studied. It is like being born again.

[uddu]

https://x.com/mog_russEN/status/1973862317860536584
@mog_russEN

“Selling uranium to the USA is fine, but exporting oil & gas to Europe is ‘forbidden’? Why? Because Europe lost its sovereignty.”

Putin: "Russia earned more from uranium to the US in H1 2025 than all of 2024 — $800M vs $750M. Power, profit, and politics all in one.

[uddu]

The likes of Elon are not uneducated or being naïve. What he is doing is to propagate his belief that the White man and his ideals are supreme. The same ideals the world is rejecting and horrified at the extend of the harm done to humanity by Imperialist, colonialist West (White race led world). The more West (Led by the Whites) gets rejected, there is the need of narratives to rally the white faithful's + White led faithful's and first and foremost is to whitewash their past cruelty and inhuman behavior. The likes of Elon are not yet ready for the World where his race is just one among the races.

The same Elon will not have a problem with the Blacks being in Business etc etc, thats because he thinks he is not racist. The U.S or West which he bats for is the one where the White's are in majority and in control and their ideas (themselves and enforced on the ones being governed by them), their concepts, their rules, their culture, their religion is protected rather than others taking over and make west better.

https://x.com/Aabhas24/status/1973724714167107883

@Aabhas24
Indians who set foot in England built its growth.

The English who set foot in India bled it dry, growing richer by looting, leaving India poorer.

Calling it colonisation is a sugarcoat, truth is, the British were nothing but Looteras and thieves.

British Raj was biggest association of Thieves.

https://x.com/thebritishhindu/status/19 ... 7507482014
@thebritishhindu
When a person with 227M followers amplifies such a misleading and deliberately reductionist statement, it can't be ignored. The linguistic whitewashing of piracy, desecration, enslavement and civilisational erasure on a multi-national scale, the unleashing of all of the .....ocides known to demons, labelled as simply 'colonisation' or 'Raj', or 'Empire' is itself an act of mischief.
@elonmusk disappointing. Ask the native Americans for their perspective, perhaps ? 'Coloniser Superiority Anosognosia' CSA remains a disease.

https://x.com/joysamcyborg/status/1973730460208398610
@joysamcyborg
White Nationalist are now trying to equate colonialism military invasion, rape, plunder, exploitation of natives with legal immigration and naturalization complying with immigration laws.

The idea is to…
# 1 whitewash their own colonial guilt

# 2 vilify immigrants minorities by equating them with colonial imperialists

@elonmusk


https://x.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1973644303437308009
@StefanMolyneux
If Indians set foot in England and become English.

Then the English who set foot in India became Indian.

Therefore the English did not rule India.

There is no such thing as ‘colonization.’

QED

[Jay]

It was only a matter of time before they start their attacks against Indians/Hindus. All this, lets castigate the islam(righfully) is only yo galvanize the masses and once that happens we are next. Anyone who knows anything about the rightwing/retardlican ecosystem knows this for sure, even the ones who are pretending to not know or notice this dynamic.

[Kati]

ICE agents drag children out of bed, ransack Chicago building
“Dozens of federal agents raiding an entire apartment building with kids in it just to see what they can ....."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-a ... 0a10&ei=25

Time for Bharat to remind Unkil about its commitments to uphold Human Rights.

[Manish_P]

ICE agents drag children out of bed, ransack Chicago building
.....
Time for Bharat to remind Unkil about its commitments to uphold Human Rights.

Kati sir, They are classified as illegal aliens. Aliens implies not humans. No Human left means no worries about humans, right.

Simple onleee

Seriously though it seems that it is being setup as a Citizen rights vs Humans rights thing. Even in India w.r.t the rohingya/bangladeshi issue - if you have been following our supreme court questioning the GoI.

So which has greater value?

Added : at least in the US the supreme court judges are elected.. our Indian MiLords on the other hand ..

[Mort Walker]

Trump is planning on introducing the Ladlaa Redneck Yojana scheme soon.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/intern ... 280720.cms

[A_Gupta]

US Supreme Court justices are nominated by POTUS and confirmed by Senate.

[Tanaji]

It was only a matter of time before they start their attacks against Indians/Hindus. All this, lets castigate the islam(righfully) is only yo galvanize the masses and once that happens we are next. Anyone who knows anything about the rightwing/retardlican ecosystem knows this for sure, even the ones who are pretending to not know or notice this dynamic.

Saar if you still believe its only Republicans doing this then there is not much to say. The current admin has definitely emboldened the latent racists and brought them out of the woodwork, but this was always there. The Dems under Clinton , Biden and Obama were just sophisticated about it, but make no mistake , Indians have always been a target.

[Vayutuvan]

Added : at least in the US the supreme court judges are elected.. our Indian MiLords on the other hand ..

Manish_P ji, you are right in most part.

> US Supreme Court justices are nominated by POTUS and confirmed by Senate.

This is not the gotcha the esteemed poster thinks it is.

It is a false equivalence if the poster is equating Senate with either House of Lords or Rajya Sabha.

President is elected. Senate is also elected by the same voters who elected the President. House of Representatives is also elected by the same people who elected President and Senate.

Nominations go through very open transparent confirmation hearings which are gruelling. Every aspect of the nominee are examined. All dirt will come out whether it be sexual peccadilloes or graft or nepotism/favoritism or political leanings.

Oh, one more thing.

US is not a democracy it is a republic. Same as India. Judiciary gets their powers only when people say they can unlike in India.

So, all in all, I would not hesitate to say that the Judiciary of the US is elected.

[Vayutuvan]

It was only a matter of time before they start their attacks against Indians/Hindus. All this, lets castigate the islam(righfully) is only yo galvanize the masses and once that happens we are next. Anyone who knows anything about the rightwing/retardlican ecosystem knows this for sure, even the ones who are pretending to not know or notice this dynamic.

Evidence please. Also what had HIndus done to either Xtists or the Judaists or the Buddhists (which is the fastest growing religion in the north-west and CA)

[Cyrano]

[Jay]

Saar if you still believe its only Republicans doing this then there is not much to say. The current admin has definitely emboldened the latent racists and brought them out of the woodwork, but this was always there. The Dems under Clinton , Biden and Obama were just sophisticated about it, but make no mistake , Indians have always been a target.

If you want to view it as an "equal-equal" and "both sides are the same" situation then that's your prerogative and I would not contest it. In my observations, there is a difference in which opposition to Hindus/Indians is displayed by the left vs the right and they are not the same.

Extreme left morons always will pit any philosophy/idea/governance against a grievance and will look at it from that angle and get all knotted up in their anger and opposition. For them Indians/Hindusim is encompassed in a struggle with muslims and untouchables and their pavlovian response make them side with forces opposing Hindus because they see them as victims. I was always able to counter these people by simply questioning, how come Hindus have been victimized by more than 200 years of colonialism and centuries more of islamic violence and you still view them as not victims?

Western/Christian right on the other hand, view Hindus as illegitimate because they take anything that goes against their extreme christian dogma as not worth the paper it's written on and will constantly try to push the envelope. Right also leans heavily into anti-immigration viewpoint's hiding behind the cloak of nationalism and they view Hindus from that frame which make them hate and oppose us. With this group, one cannot change their mind as religion, skin color, and immigration origin is non negotiable with them.

One can look at current US political divide and can clearly view who falls in what category and which devil you would like to deal with.

[chetak]

It was only a matter of time before they start their attacks against Indians/Hindus. All this, lets castigate the islam(righfully) is only yo galvanize the masses and once that happens we are next. Anyone who knows anything about the rightwing/retardlican ecosystem knows this for sure, even the ones who are pretending to not know or notice this dynamic.

Evidence please. Also what had HIndus done to either Xtists or the Judaists or the Buddhists (which is the fastest growing religion in the north-west and CA)

Vayutuvan ji,

Hindus in India are being attacked by these very groups and you want proof that they are also being attacked elsewhere

It all comes down to the lack of shatrubodh and this desperate need to "belong" and be "accepted" by swine who don't give a rats, and never ever have

what did you ever do the the sikhs in kaneda or even in India, or the us, or britshitistan, why is there so much hate

We deserve this

This constant and needless asking for "proof" has never been a characteristic of other communities and ethnicities, or religions. This self defeating narrative undermines our rightful civilizational space and seriously contaminates the cultural and geopolitical narrative

does the evidence of the past 16 - 17 centuries count for nothing, even when it stares you in the face, or have you forgotten the plundering, enslaving, raping, converting, murdering, genociding and thieving jihadis, the britshits, the french, the dutch and the portuguese, the arabs, the persians, the turks and assorted other scum from central asia, or do you believe the roler / roper propaganda that they have spread for hundreds of years, the BS sufi claptrap about "love" and "peace". The buddhists were/are no better

BTW, a non Indian buddhist will still retain all the bleddy characteristics of his/her original race, ethnicity, and worldview. A hyena never changes it's stripes. The highly politicised Indian buddhist is already anti Hindu in attitude, and is becoming increasingly militant in his outlook

Not asking for retaliation, or violence or even retribution. Just be aware and protect yourself. No one else is going to do it for you

and, what exactly are you going to do with the "proof", Vayutuvan ji

[Manish_P]

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Nominations go through very open transparent confirmation hearings which are gruelling. Every aspect of the nominee are examined. All dirt will come out whether it be sexual peccadilloes or graft or nepotism/favoritism or political leanings.

Yes, Vayutuvan ji, i have seen the youtube videos. Quite entertaining at times.

US is not a democracy it is a republic. Same as India. Judiciary gets their powers only when people say they can unlike in India.

So, all in all, I would not hesitate to say that the Judiciary of the US is elected.

Excellent. How many judges impeached in the US versus how many in india. Not counting the 'resignation on moral grounds' bs.

[uddu]

https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1974115173901406514
Muslim Activists vandalize a Christian Church in Texas

They were caught on video and captured. They say vandalizing the church is within their first amendment rights and demand their charges be dropped

They “intentionally selected the church
because of religion”

Demands from advocates including CAIR, the Council on American Islamic Relations, “We demand that the charges be dropped immediately.”