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Democrats: Let us take guns away from people.
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Republicans: Lets install a pedo for president and pardon other pedos.
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Both Republicans and Democrats - let's give guns to pedo followers abroad
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This is more telling on the US which in international fora bashes others for coal fired power and lectures to the world.

China now exports $120 billion in clean-energy tech, surpassing U.S. fossil fuel exports of ~$80 billion (till July). A signal: the 21st century energy market belongs to renewables.

https://x.com/lakshmishaks/status/1975046434157449348
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Djt will cause destruction of us in 2 basic ways . Destroying the science funding mechanism of the country. They needed a fix for sure . But don't see him fixing it . A surveyed some nurses around me and found that half of them believe moon landings are fake and 20% believe that measles isn't a real disease .

Other way he ll destroy the country is wiping out the battery /renewable tech infra . By the time someone else comes in others would have moved far ahead .
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We are told that in the Dussehra celebrations all across Bihar and Bengal the effigy of Mahishasura had the head of Trump.
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Hegseth and Rubio warned about possible 'secret sealed warrants' ambush
https://www.rawstory.com/hegseth-hague/
In a column for the Wall Street Journal, conservative George Mason University Scalia Law School professor Eugene Kontorovich suggested Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth might want to be careful when they travel abroad after they leave their jobs.

The professor pointed out that Ken Roth, a former head of Human Rights Watch, endorsed ICC intervention, saying, “Trump just did what the International Criminal Court has charged former Philippines Pres. Duterte with doing—ordering the summary execution of alleged drug traffickers.”

Kontorovich suggested it might not be so easy to arrest Trump if he goes overseas, but he said Rubio and Hegseth might be fair game.
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This YouTube makes the case for tariffs - but in the old pre-1980 way, item by item, country by country.
https://youtu.be/5LJi6iFHqDc?si=K-HvPK-G1cXp2ab8
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^^ dubya doesn't go to Europe as there is a pending icj case against him for Iraq .
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gakakkadji,
You mean destruction of USofA and NOT us?
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^ of course. Bharat has been around for 5k + years . It isn't going anywhere.
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https://x.com/anilkhatri005/status/1975225068302278808
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US Dollar has lost over 10% of its value this year. @ankitatIIMA

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^^ I suspect this is by design….
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USD has gained about 5% against INR this year
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https://x.com/ankitatIIMA/status/1975139140669948113
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The western collapse will be as phenomenal as the loot it accumulated from the colonies.

https://x.com/ektrit/status/1975092300985557395
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THE WEST IS GOING TO GET USED TO A PERMANENTLY LOWER STANDARD OF LIVING.

IT WILL BE VIOLENT AT TIMES.

https://x.com/ankitatIIMA/status/1975243186139513231
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In Dollarisation period by printing endless dollars they told parents that the state will take care in old age so they can kick out teenage children and as a result destroyed families.

Now in Dedollarisation period that they can't print endlessly they are increasing retirement age to not give benefits.

Whoever came with this foolish idea that the rest of the world, particularly Asia will pay all your bills and you can enjoy a rich lifestyle by passing on inflation.

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1975203811330326560
Germany has proposed raising the retirement age to 73 to prevent the collapse of the pension system

A new scientific advisory board under the German Ministry of Economy stated that there is almost no time left for reforms. According to experts, Germany’s economy has been stagnating for years, while the demographic situation continues to worsen.

The proposal sparked outrage in Berlin: just recently, Economy Minister Katharina Reiche suggested raising the retirement age to 70, and even that faced heavy criticism.

The average life expectancy in Germany in 2023 was about 81.2 years.
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https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1975770942598234252
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WOW YouTuber David Wood went to Dearborn Michigan. He exposes Christians aren’t allowed to distribute any material to Muslims but Muslims can distribute and convert Americans to Islam

This is real and he has video proof

“They didn't want Christians, evangelizing Muslims or handing out tracts or anything. But they couldn't just make a rule saying Christians aren't allowed to distribute materials. So they just made a rule and they said no one's allowed to hand out materials, but then they only enforced it on Christians.”

“Two of my friends walked over to the Arab Festival outside of the Arab Festival and tried to distribute copies of the Gospel of John in English and Arabic and they were stopped immediately outside the festival. You didn't see what happened afterwards, but they took us to the security booth, they photographed us, they took our IDs, got the information, took our camera, cell phone for a little while. They let us go and just explain the rules to us. But what the rule is, it seems, is not that you can't distribute copies of the Gospel of John inside the Festival. It also applies outside the Festival.”

He tries it on public streets, again is blocked

“They're doing these workarounds which were, you know, all for basic. They're implementing Sharia in a way that they could pass it off as they're not implementing Sharia.”

“I'm here on the corner of Warren and Frida in Dearborn, Michigan, United States. And if I were to take this gospel of Jesus Christ by St. John and hand it out to anyone on the street, I will be put in jail, again.”

This has been going on for 15 years at least and David Wood has the video proof to prove it
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There is absolutely no point in signing a treaty with Trumps US:

https://www.ft.com/content/678f7c25-2ef ... 772fa69236

The ink is not dry and he wants to renegotiate the terms with EU. Far better to just pay the tariff.
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^^2 cents about the Dearborn situation .

I am very familiar with metro Detroit. While Detroit the city sucks it has awesome suburbs . Ann arbor on one side which is home to umich and a bunch of high tech industries.
Other suburban area is peripheral Wayne country and Oakland county which is one of the wealthiest suburbs in the us . Dearborn is sort of part of that suburbia . Dearborn was where Henry Ford once roamed around . He imported a bunch of middle eastern folks to work in his assembly line . I've walked through a multi faith cemetery in that area and I found Muslim tombstones as old as 1890s .other townships are royal oak , Birmingham, Rochester hills , Troy , grosse point are extremely rich . Old money from legacy automotive industry and other allied engineering industry and finance . Tons of desi population. The Muslims in the area are extremely powerful politically. They aren't as wealthy as desis or Jews but hit way about their weight .
Only direct flight to Riyadh from us afaik from DTW.
There are other middle eastern communities their as well like the Chaldeans (direct descendants of the Assyrians , they are the only speakers of Aramaic in the world today (they call the language asurit ).

I saw a descent amount of shia presence as well and there is a charity in the area called rehama international or something. Won't be surprised if it's some kind of front for Iran or Hezbollah or something.

I've driven through Dearborn a bunch of times . Is very Islamic . All shops have Arabic sign boards . You can hear the Azan 5 times a day . There is a multi story hijab show room (modish hijab). Post 10/7 there have been several rallies which are outright antisemitic. I've heard about fund collection for porkies post op sindoor . Overall the mullahs have played it smart .

They have bipartisan support . They worked with republicans to remove LGBTQ references from their school . I think Dearborn is a lost cause and it would need something extraordinary to reverse their grip .
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uddu wrote: 08 Oct 2025 21:41 https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1975770942598234252
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WOW YouTuber David Wood went to Dearborn Michigan. He exposes Christians aren’t allowed to distribute any material to Muslims but Muslims can distribute and convert Americans to Islam

This is real and he has video proof
I would not doubt for a second that this happened and I also know that dearborn, hamtramck, and few other suburbs/towns around Detroit have a huge arab/muslim population and local governance that caters to them.

Arab christians migrated in significant numbers around the early 1900, and starting 1960's muslim arabs have also joined this trend in significant numbers. Originally, these were all the rejects/escapees from the arab muslim regimes but eventually a lot of islamist muslims also joined them. Dearborn is the only place in the US where I found out multiples of arab muslim families whose ancestors fought in US Civil War or World War 1. Until a decade or two ago, they had support from democrats and they used this support to infiltrate local unions, governance, and political structure. Around 2010 is when a significant rift between democrats and local muslim politicians started appearing and since then the democrat support to these groups has been supplanted and in some cases replaced by republican support.

Now coming to the video, this happened in 2010, and the city of Dearborn settled with this dude.

https://www.americanfreedomlawcenter.or ... n-lawsuit/

This was also when filming laws were not widely established and now, one can film the cops and local officials much more liberally than before and expose their failures. The guy david wood is a christian apologist, and a violent criminal who went to prison for a decade for trying to kill his father because "claiming a belief that morality was merely societal rules that were beneath him."

So we have a case of one Ahole...calling out another Ahole.
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^ David wood is hinduphobic and antisemitic as well . This is a case of enemies enemy is not necessarily your friend . But yeah I'd love to see more friction between varied enemies.
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American intelligence and strategic analysts the Rand Corporation (CIA)

Clearly outlined their plans for Moldova, Belarus, and Ukraine way back in 2019.

None of its a surprise. it's all part of a "Roadmap"

If it involves Europe burning, no problem.



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Here is a link to the full "Report" its really quite remarkable and outlines in Detail everything that's been happening.

Hiding in plain sight.


https://rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/ ... B10014.pdf
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Factions in the Democratic Party (United States)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factions_ ... ed_States)
The Democratic Party is an American political party that has significantly evolved and includes various factions throughout its history. Into the 21st century, the liberal faction represents the modern American liberalism that began with the New Deal in the 1930s and continued with both the New Frontier and Great Society in the 1960s. The moderate faction supports Third Way politics that includes center-left social policies and centrist fiscal policies, mostly associated with the New Democrats and Clintonism of the 1990s, while the left-wing faction (known as progressives) advocates for progressivism and social democracy. Historical factions of the Democratic Party include the founding Jacksonians, the Copperheads and War Democrats during the American Civil War, the Redeemers, Bourbon Democrats, and Silverites in the late-19th century, and the Southern Democrats and New Deal Democrats in the 20th century. The early Democratic Party was also influenced by Jeffersonians and the Young America movement.
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Socialists
Since 2019, there have been at least six democratic socialists in the House of Representatives as members of the Democratic Party, and in doing so some of them defeated notable New Democrats incumbents, such as Joe Crowley and Eliot Engel, in the primaries.[44] As of 2024, at least thirteen of socialist Democratic representatives had at some point been affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,[45] Rashida Tlaib,[45] and Greg Casar, who was elected in 2024 to lead the progressive caucus.[46][47] Former Democratic representatives, such as Ron Dellums,[48] David Bonior, Major Owens,[48] John Conyers, Jerry Nadler, Danny K. Davis,[41] Shri Thanedar,[49] Cori Bush,[48] and Jamaal Bowman,[50] were also affiliated with the DSA.[48]

The Squad and specifically Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,[51][52] elevated progressive politics, and influenced the country and party.[53] The progressive wing has voiced support for legislation such as the Green New Deal and Medicare for All.[54][55]
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The top 10% by income in the US account for 50% of the consumer spending (49.2% is a number you can find).
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and now this.

JUST ANNOUNCED: NY Attorney General Letitia James officially indicted for mortgage fraud by a Virginia federal grand jury.
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50-64, and 65+ age groups also have the most money and are unlikely to pass on their estates to their children. They are the ones who are spending and also want to donate left over money to charities. As charities are tax-free, millennials and especially Gen Z are going to suffer while the money gets redistributed.

Increase taxon boomers which will lead to decreased consumption by that groups which will have a terrible effect on jobs in service sector or let they consume, spend the money on trinkets, imported luxury cars, tourism while the debt piles up?

Either way, Gen Z are screwed.
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https://x.com/AIPAC/status/1976417681848066104

Ro Khanna is getting hammered by AIPAC.
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@RoKhanna, you posted a video with blatant lies about us and our members. The lies are meant to demonize pro-Israel Americans and suggest we are not patriotic citizens.

The video also undermines your own claim, showing you as having taken $142,248 in lobby totals.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 10 Oct 2025 05:54 50-64, and 65+ age groups also have the most money and are unlikely to pass on their estates to their children. They are the ones who are spending and also want to donate left over money to charities. As charities are tax-free, millennials and especially Gen Z are going to suffer while the money gets redistributed.

Increase taxon boomers which will lead to decreased consumption by that groups which will have a terrible effect on jobs in service sector or let they consume, spend the money on trinkets, imported luxury cars, tourism while the debt piles up?

Either way, Gen Z are screwed.
Doubt that is generally the case . Happens among some name brand billionaires like gates etc but most people will give money to their kids entirely unless they are estranged .
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The Honorable Kristi Noel, former Governor of South Dakota, current United States Secretary of Homeland Defense, answers in the Senate to "What is Habeas Corpus?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UIbsre2cY

"Well, habeas corpus is a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country and suspend their right..."
The writ of habeas corpus originated in England, with its roots in the Assize of Clarendon of 1166 and later principles of Magna Carta, but the modern form of the writ was codified by the Habeas Corpus Act of 1679. This legislation was passed to protect individuals from unlawful imprisonment by ensuring a prisoner could be brought before a court to determine the legality of their confinement. The concept was later incorporated into the U.S. Constitution. The concept has become known as the "Great Writ of Liberty".
Look at the failure of the American school system and the American political system, that such ignorance should pass high school and get elected and ascend to a high post in the Federal government.

This is the result of all that "self-esteem" nonsense that you cannot hold back children if they don't show the minimum required proficiency to go to the next grade.
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Appointment of India-born, anti-Pak Paul Kapur as head of US state dept’s South Asian bureau is bad news for the jihadi state of Pakistan.

Kapur’s 2016 book “Jihad as Grand Strategy” condemned Pak’s proxy terrorism against India & argued it had outlived its utility value.





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That older people lean towards the right and become conservative is a western phenomenon, it's the same in Europe as well.

To be conservative, you need to first have something to conserve. I E assets like savings, house, a business etc. Plus as people get older they become more aware of their own mortality and realise that time is running out. They realise it's not so easy to reinvent themselves and take a new course of life.

Younger people have less assets to conserve - if at all, and in their twenties to mid forties have greater risk appetite, and lean left because they can afford the luxury of idealism, less aware of their own mortality. In French it's called "insouciance de la jeunesse".

This is a very individualistic behaviour, exacerbated by the erosion of family structure and values. The young may even see family as a privilege and an impediment to social justice.

Very different take on life compared to the 4 ashramas of Hindu tradition namely Baalya, Vaivahika, Vanaprastha and finally Sanyaasa.
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After the hans went and not only toasted the amriki testimonials, but they also roasted and broasted the entire assembly, before finally torching it completely, some obnoxious amriki @h0!e$ have not only pulled out their victim cards, but are also virtuously playing them for all they are worth

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OMG
Trump looses Piece Prize!!
And of all people a Venezuelan awarded peace prize.
This is not going to please either DS or DJT!!!
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Wonder what Bhikari's will do now
Maybe they will put an PIA ad : Oslo we are coming for You!! :rotfl: :rotfl:
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The US oligarchy:
https://open.substack.com/pub/thebulwar ... dium=email

Why Our Tech Overlords Took a Hard Right Turn
A new book tells the story of how Elon Musk and other Silicon Valley entrepreneurs became angry admirers of authoritarianism.
But Gilded Rage isn’t simply a rehash of existing reportage. What separates Silverman’s book from other writeups, and where his book truly shines, is in his attempt to get at the root of Silicon Valley’s anti-democratic lurch.

As Silverman sees it, the reasons for this heel turn are twofold. On the one hand are elements particular to Silicon Valley that arise directly from the specific situations these tech entrepreneurs found themselves in. Take San Francisco, a town that helped birth many of the fortunes associated with Silicon Valley but had become for these oligarchs a symbol of American decline or even collapse. The city’s prosecutorial reforms, efforts to push more equitable teaching of American history, policies of treating homelessness as a social issue rather than a crime—all of it was front and center for figures like Musk, Sacks, and others. And all of it was evidence of liberal politics and pieties run amok—and of a movement that must be stopped, at all costs.

But it would take more than strongly worded tweets to derail the liberals running San Francisco. As Silverman shows, these tech figures unleashed a flood of “dark money” into the city’s politics, hoping to transform it, in the words of the nonprofit Phoenix Project, “into a city that prioritizes the needs and desires of developers, corporations and the wealthy.” It was a model the oligarchs soon took nationwide.

“I thought I was covering how this billionaire/millionaire group was going to try to take over San Francisco and use that as a template for the rest of the country,” one analyst told Silverman. “I figured it’s going to be important in the future. Well, the future is now.”

It wasn’t just San Francisco politics that drove these tech tycoons further and further right. As Silverman details, these oligarchs, even in their liberal heyday, spent years abroad courting foreign despots, most especially in Saudi Arabia. It was a transformation that most Americans missed (and that will be the subject of my own forthcoming book). Quite usefully, Silverman tracks how figures like Musk, Marc Andreessen, Ben Horowitz, and others opened their doors to a floodtide of Saudi investment, allowing tyrants in Riyadh to sink their teeth into the American economy. Silicon Valley venture capitalists “served as laundromats for a class of kleptocrats, princelings, and other global elites, who could funnel their fortunes into one of America’s most celebrated industries,” Silverman writes. Silly things like “human rights” or “democracy” were no match for the billions of dollars Saudi thugs poured into these tech oligarchs’ businesses.

Nor was it just about the money. Partnerships with the Saudi kingdom—to say nothing of partnerships with other kleptocratic regimes in places like China, the UAE, and elsewhere—revealed just how much these figures lust for a Saudi-like regime in the United States. Maybe not as theocratic, per se—but certainly as despotic.

“Silicon Valley [venture capitalists] and their foreign investors often shared a general disregard for democratic governance,” Silverman correctly notes. “In the Saudi crown prince, they saw a counterpart who demonstrated the same benevolent authoritarian style that they enacted in their business lives—but on an even grander scale, with unchallenged power.” Few things sum up this ethos better than this mewling, cringeworthy quote from Horowitz in 2023: “Saudi has a founder. You don’t call him a founder. You call him his royal highness.” Saudi’s paid-off propagandists couldn’t have said it better.

THE SECOND REASON FOR THE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC SHIFT that Silverman identifies is the age-old animus of wealthy elites for regulations, restrictions, and higher taxes. In this sense, Silicon Valley’s tech oligarchs are not so different from tycoons throughout American history, seeking to protect their piling wealth from the grasping hands of government. As Silverman writes, these men constitute a “class involving people who, since they stand atop the economic pyramid, don’t wish to acknowledge its existence.” They enjoy all the economic benefits—all the tax breaks and offshoring opportunities, all the access to power and helpful assistance that comes with it—that the rest of us will never know. These men are convinced that they achieved such staggering financial success by their own force and wisdom, rather than through a shattered economic model that boosts the wealthiest and smothers the rest.

There is, however, one key difference between the oligarchs of now and the plutocrats of yore. Their pursuit of “power for its own sake” was a “step-change in American politics,” Silverman writes. “Once, corporate titans built libraries, museums, and universities; now, they build political and media operations designed to propagate their influence.” The Carnegies, the Vanderbilts, the Stanfords, the Rices—they may have all been loathsome figures who manipulated American politics to their own ends, but at least they left a legacy that benefited others. The Gilded Age may have revealed the excesses of an unchecked oligarchy, but at least it left behind centers of learning, culture, and philanthropy.

Today’s roster of plutocrats, though, seems uninterested in leaving behind libraries, museums, universities. Instead, they’re mostly leaving behind one thing: their rage, unabated and unending, which we’ll be dealing with for years to come.
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https://x.com/PressSec/status/197666451 ... xr26w&s=19

Looks like Trump's attention will shift to China for the next few hours. :rotfl:
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What kind of letter from China made this Orange Monkey hyperventilate like this? Any thing to do with him waking up and finding that he is not getting the Nobel?
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Apparently India was also asked to ensure no rare earths from China ends up in US when we buy Chinese rare earths

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tec ... 413565.cms
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Just read that an Indian guy was taken into custody after a minor traffic stop because he had a bottle of Opium (perfume) in his car. Now he is fighting to have his immigration status restored.
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