Understanding the US - Again

[Vayutuvan]

What kind of letter from China made this Orange Monkey hyperventilate like this? Any thing to do with him waking up and finding that he is not getting the Nobel?

2025 Nobel nomination deadline was in Jan, 2025.

[Vayutuvan]

OMG
Trump looses Piece Prize!

SRajesh ji, while I don't care a hoot abouit lit, peace, economics "yes"bulls, here is something to cogitate upon which captures the stupid campus pro-hamas wokistan thinking.

[Vayutuvan]

Very different take on life compared to the 4 ashramas of Hindu tradition namely Baalya, Vaivahika, Vanaprastha and finally Sanyaasa.

A small nit. The four ashramas are brahmacharya (staying at gurukula and learning), graahastya (family life - which is the longest IMHO), vaanaprastha, and sanyasa.

baalya till 8 years of age is all play and freedom and learning to show difference to elders and learning to learn from a guru.

The life stages (not ashrama but passage of time) are baalya, kaumaarya, yavvana, vriddhaapya.

(sorry for OT)

[Vayutuvan]

What kind of letter from China made this Orange Monkey hyperventilate like this? Any thing to do with him waking up and finding that he is not getting the Nobel?

Looks like some folks want to secede and join China. They are hoping that their state will break off, physically break off that is, and drift across the pacific to join China at the hip.

[chetak]

Venezuela's Maria Corina Machado dedicates peace award to Trump

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... s?from=mdr

[saip]

We know most monkeys have no concept of time. Orange Monkey is no exception. Already complaining of not getting THIS YEAR'S Nobel. As I predicted, fireworks have begun.
Link

[saip]

The Venezuelan regime’s rigid hold on power and its repression of the population are not unique in the world,” the committee said. “We see the same trends globally: rule of law abused by those in control, free media silenced, critics imprisoned, and societies pushed towards authoritarian rule and militarization.”

If this is the criterion for Nobel then the Orange Monkey may never get it. But he can threaten Norway with 5000% tariff.

[A_Gupta]

American innumeracy (I don't know if it is unique to the US though. )
https://ritholtz.com/2025/09/denominato ... l-edition/

I spill a lot of words about Denominator Blindness in “How Not to Invest.” The opportunities to demonstrate terrible examples of this framing error are never-ending. The latest example — and one of the most absurd cases of denominator blindness you will ever see — comes from somebody who should know better, Senator Ron Johnson.

Here is what the Senator had to say:

Ron Johnson: “In 56 years of tracking Tylenol, there have been 39,540 death reported to FAIRS. That’s 706 per year. For ivermectin – remember the one that they said was so dangerous? – in 29 years reporting, 493 deaths, 17 a year.”

It’s a classic denominator blindness example, because you are NOT seeing the total number of doses in question. By only showing the number of deaths (the numerator) but not the size of the data set (the denominator), we see an obvious attempt to mislead the viewer.

To do a fair “Apples to Apples” comparison, the first thing you would need is the number of doses of each drug that are consumed annually:

“More than 25 billion acetaminophen doses are sold in the US annually.” That’s in 2023; this year, the number is over 28 billion.” (See GMI, JAMA, and ATrain)

And Ivermectin?

“Approximately 450,000 outpatient prescriptions for ivermectin were filled in the United States in 2023.” (See Cognitive, ClinCalc).

In other words, there are roughly 50,000 times more doses of Acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol, consumed each year than doses of Ivermectin.

If as few doses of Tylenol were consumed each year as Ivermectin, there would be one Acetaminophen death every 72 years.

And, if as many doses of Ivermectin as Tylenol were consumed each year, the body count in the U.S. for the antiparasitic drug would be over 850,000 deaths annually. That would be like losing the entire population of a city like Indianapolis or San Francisco – every year.

[Vayutuvan]

I have seen this kind of incorrect comparisons even in STEM papers. They skip the normalization step to make the numbers look good.

For example, all the Euro climate activists talk about India's absolute greenhouse gas emissions, nor per capita nor cumulatively over the years per capita.

[Vayutuvan]

We know most monkeys have no concept of time. Orange Monkey is no exception. Already complaining of not getting THIS YEAR'S Nobel. As I predicted, fireworks have begun.
Link

This was posted just before a TDS driven whining post by @chetak gaaru.

viewtopic.php?p=2662296#p2662296

[Cyrano]

Very different take on life compared to the 4 ashramas of Hindu tradition namely Baalya, Vaivahika, Vanaprastha and finally Sanyaasa.

A small nit. The four ashramas are brahmacharya (staying at gurukula and learning), graahastya (family life - which is the longest IMHO), vaanaprastha, and sanyasa.

baalya till 8 years of age is all play and freedom and learning to show difference to elders and learning to learn from a guru.

The life stages (not ashrama but passage of time) are baalya, kaumaarya, yavvana, vriddhaapya.

(sorry for OT)

Absolutely right you are! I somehow mixed up the two. Thanks for the nit

[Vayutuvan]

https://x.com/MariaCorinaYA/status/1976642376119549990

María Corina Machado
@MariaCorinaYA
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8h
This recognition of the struggle of all Venezuelans is a boost to conclude our task: to conquer Freedom.

We are on the threshold of victory and today, more than ever, we count on President Trump, the people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, and the democratic nations of the world as our principal allies to achieve Freedom and democracy.
I dedicate this prize to the suffering people of Venezuela and to President Trump for his decisive support of our cause!

Red Flag to some here.

[Vayutuvan]

María Corina Machado

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%AD ... ign_policy

Foreign policy
Regarding the Israel–Palestine conflict, Machado expressed her solidarity with Israel following the attacks of 7 October 2023.[117] She thanked Israel for its support of Edmundo González as president-elect,[118] and previously of Juan Guaidó as acting president.[119] Machado planned to reestablish diplomatic relations with Israel, which were cut in 2009 due to the 2008–2009 Gaza war.[119]

In February 2025, Machado addressed a Patriots.eu rally in Madrid.[120][121] Machado is a strong supporter of United States President Donald Trump, whom she described in 2025 as a "visionary" in relation to his opposition to the Maduro regime in Venezuela.[122][123] After he deployed the Navy to the Caribbean in 2025, Machado praised the Trump administration.[124] She has expressed support for the use of force to depose the Maduro regime; one of her advisors told the New York Times that she has coordinated with the Trump administration and that she has a plan for the first hundred hours after his deposition.[125]

[chetak]

This is delusional.

After setting the entire kitchen on fire, this guy now says that the heat is too much for him to take

Also, he is finding it difficult to get out of the kitchen because he has already set many parts of the house itself on fire

His "voters" are baying for his blood, and he is bleeding soybean and corn, even as he is sweating diary and overpriced oil/gas

he initially entered the kitchen after claiming that he was a globally famous gourmet chef, renowned for his culinary efficiency, innovative recipes, and his innate ability to develop new and unique epicurean masterpieces on the fly

He fumbled badly on the basic recipes of palestinian, ukrainain, european, russian and israeli cuisines, not to mention his making a right royal dogs breakfast of his repeated forays into the complex gastronomic universe of the Indian pakwan.

one ventures to speculate that had trumpwa not pulled out of afghanistan, in the way that he did, he would have still retained the geopolitical clout and the military authority to strong arm the world into doing what he wanted them to do

In reality, it now turns out that, far from being a culinary connoisseur, or a gourmand culinary artist with a mastery over the art of the deal, he is just another greasy spoon hash house slop slinger, serving a clientele of criminals from pak, beedi, palestine, ukraine and nepal

And now he says that it's not his fault and that the chinaman did it


After launching trade war on entire world, Trump rants against China alleging trade hostilities over rare earth export controls, threatens massive tariff increase

Some very strange things are happening in China! They are becoming very hostile, and sending letters to Countries throughout the World, that they want to impose Export Controls on each and every element of production having to do with Rare Earths, and virtually anything else they can think of, even if it’s not manufactured in China. Nobody has ever seen anything like this but, essentially, it would “clog” the Markets, and make life difficult for virtually every Country in the World, especially for China. We have been contacted by other Countries who are extremely angry at this great Trade hostility, which came out of nowhere. Our relationship with China over the past six months has been a very good one, thereby making this move on Trade an even more surprising one. I have always felt that they’ve been lying in wait, and now, as usual, I have been proven right! There is no way that China should be allowed to hold the World “captive,” but that seems to have been their plan for quite some time, starting with the “Magnets” and, other Elements that they have quietly amassed into somewhat of a Monopoly position, a rather sinister and hostile move, to say the least. But the U.S. has Monopoly positions also, much stronger and more far reaching than China’s. I have just not chosen to use them, there was never a reason for me to do so — UNTIL NOW! The letter they sent is many pages long, and details, with great specificity, each and every Element that they want to withhold from other Nations. Things that were routine are no longer routine at all. I have not spoken to President Xi because there was no reason to do so. This was a real surprise, not only to me, but to all the Leaders of the Free World. I was to meet President Xi in two weeks, at APEC, in South Korea, but now there seems to be no reason to do so. The Chinese letters were especially inappropriate in that this was the Day that, after three thousand years of bedlam and fighting, there is PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. I wonder if that timing was coincidental? Dependent on what China says about the hostile “order” that they have just put out, I will be forced, as President of the United States of America, to financially counter their move. For every Element that they have been able to monopolize, we have two. I never thought it would come to this but perhaps, as with all things, the time has come. Ultimately, though potentially painful, it will be a very good thing, in the end, for the U.S.A. One of the Policies that we are calculating at this moment is a massive increase of Tariffs on Chinese products coming into the United States of America. There are many other countermeasures that are, likewise, under serious consideration. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

[saip]

The OM is selling cheap watches made in China/Japan/Malaysia. He was on Newsmax peddling them. America First, indeed!

OrangeMonkey

[Manish_P]

Venezuela's Maria Corina Machado dedicates peace award to Trump

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Scandinavia and US work well together. One gives nobel prize and the other uses them to do regime change.

Ye partnership bani rahe

Need to see which indian they prop up as being nobel worthy

Needs to be popular among the masses pan india.

[Jay]

If one want to understand the core of toiletpaperusa, I mean turningpointusa crowd, watch them skew their own...

https://www.tiktok.com/@thedotvault/vid ... 4485567775

[Manish_P]

^ Tik tok is banned in India

[Vayutuvan]

^ Tik tok is banned in India

Correctly so, even if changes hands and is controlled by Oracle. Neither China nor the US are going to stop spreading propaganda aming the Indian youth.

[Vayutuvan]

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Need to see which indian they prop up as being nobel worthy

Needs to be popular among the masses pan india.

Yeah true. None of their previous people worked out - Susanna A. Roy, Kejriwal, or Rahul Gandhi. S. Tharoor hadn;t really done anything that is Nobel worthy not that others did. India polity simply doesn't give scope for chota mota activists like Malala or Dr. Greta to become prominent as HIndu society is as much as pluralistic and liberal as anybody in the West - Abrahamics or Commies can be.

[A_Gupta]

So the China-US trade war has reignited, with reexport restrictions by China on rare earths, $80 per ton toll for Chinese ships at US ports, and 400 yuan per ton toll at Chinese ports for US linked ships, retaliation for buying Iranian oil, additional 100% tariff on China, etc., etc.

[Manish_P]

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Yeah true. None of their previous people worked out - Susanna A. Roy, Kejriwal, or Rahul Gandhi. S. Tharoor hadn;t really done anything that is Nobel worthy not that others did. India polity simply doesn't give scope for chota mota activists like Malala or Dr. Greta to become prominent as HIndu society is as much as pluralistic and liberal as anybody in the West - Abrahamics or Commies can be.

+1

Need to have a list of possibles/probables

An advantage of the huge size and diversity of India is that a pan-india phenomenon is extremely hard to come by.

The AAPiya was a threat no doubt but the break-india forces had to contend with the might of a Modified Bharat.

Added: the current sarkar has the testimonials of Shampoo boy firmly in their hands thanks to his deleted wife. He is no danger.
The new 'hero' from down south doesn't have a pan-india appeal but he might hold the fortress away from the national party.

[Mort Walker]

So the China-US trade war has reignited, with reexport restrictions by China on rare earths, $80 per ton toll for Chinese ships at US ports, and 400 yuan per ton toll at Chinese ports for US linked ships, retaliation for buying Iranian oil, additional 100% tariff on China, etc., etc.

Watch TACO in action. In a couple of weeks, this will be delayed or another U-turn. Inflation again getting out of control since 2022.

[Tanaji]

This is market manipulation. His cronies are either shorting stocks or making profit off bonds - that is why he is blowing hot and comd periodically to allow everyone to make money.

[chetak]

Need to see which indian they prop up as being nobel worthy

Needs to be popular among the masses pan india.

Yeah true. None of their previous people worked out - Susanna A. Roy, Kejriwal, or Rahul Gandhi. S. Tharoor hadn;t really done anything that is Nobel worthy not that others did. India polity simply doesn't give scope for chota mota activists like Malala or Dr. Greta to become prominent as HIndu society is as much as pluralistic and liberal as anybody in the West - Abrahamics or Commies can be.

Vayutuvan ji,

the last dead fish that the goras had propped up for the no-bell (satyarthi) sank without a trace, though his body floats to the surface once in a blue moon. after obummer, his is the next most useless no-bell ever given

at least the paki malala commercialized and monetized her no-bell with her greedy family peddaling her paki butt her for all it was was worth, whereas satyarhti didn't even manage to sell a pencil

[Vayutuvan]

the last dead fish that the goras had propped up for the no-bell (satyarthi) sank without a trace, though his body floats to the surface once in a blue moon. after obummer, his is the next most useless no-bell ever given

chetak gaaru,
I wanted to take his name too but forgot the name. The other one is IPCC (led by that guy Pachauri) shared with Al Gora.

[Vayutuvan]

DNC briefs top Democrats on audit of 2024 White House loss

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/0 ... s-00597998

Late spending, exacerbated by a mid-battle candidate switch, and lack of attention to voters’ top concerns are among the reasons Democrats lost the White House last year, the Democratic National Committee determined in its assessment of the defeat.
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DNC officials argued Democrats didn’t spend early or consistently enough to engage and persuade voters, one of several problems the party faced in 2024, the committee said. Swapping Joe Biden with Kamala Harris atop the ticket intensified those systemic, long-term problems for the party, the officials said, according to two people briefed by the DNC this week and granted anonymity to discuss those conversations. So far, Biden’s age has not come up, they said.

The DNC officials said the party’s failure to respond to voters’ top issues led to losses across once-core constituencies, including working class voters. One of the people briefed said they understood that assessment to mean Democrats “didn’t talk enough about bread-and-butter issues, and instead, we talked about social issues, social anxieties.” That could portend a DNC critique of the Harris campaign, which some Democrats said emphasized abortion and democracy over the economy and immigration.
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Even so, it’s not clear how some of these conclusions square with reality.
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[chetak]

Is this a trump effect...............

[Manish_P]

the last dead fish that the goras had propped up for the no-bell (satyarthi) sank without a trace, though his body floats to the surface once in a blue moon. after obummer, his is the next most useless no-bell ever given

chetak gaaru,
I wanted to take his name too but forgot the name. The other one is IPCC (led by that guy Pachauri) shared with Al Gora.

Going OT for the thread, so will just say this - it has to be a politician/leader. Someone who can win/sway elections.

An activist/scientist might make president, not a PM.

Unless it is via the Congress route

[A_Gupta]

Vivek Ramaswamy at Turning Point USA.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/sur ... 06566.html

Also:
https://youtu.be/AbwO_Eprr8s?si=PtBwQzI0Ci5ExUAn

[Guddu]

Ashley Tellis...in trouble. Spying for Chinese ?

https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1978151721613644180

[A_Gupta]

Ashley Tellis...in trouble. Spying for Chinese ?

https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1978151721613644180

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diploma ... e=homepage

[A_Gupta]

The Atlantic says:

Coffee is in trouble. Even before the United States imposed tariffs of 50 percent on Brazil and 20 percent on Vietnam—which together produce more than half of the world’s coffee beans—other challenges, including climate-change-related fires, flooding, and droughts, had already forced up coffee prices globally. Today, all told, coffee in the U.S. is nearly 40 percent more expensive than it was a year ago.

…
…
On any given day, an American is likelier to drink coffee than they are to exercise, pray, or read for pleasure.
…

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/202 ... es/684545/

[wig]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/indian- ... ls-9457048

Ashley Tellis Arrested Over Secret Documents
extracts

Ashley J Tellis, a renowned foreign policy scholar and defence strategist of Indian origin, has been arrested and charged with unlawfully retaining classified national defence information, according to the US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Virginia.

Tellis, 64, a senior fellow and Tata Chair for Strategic Affairs at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, was taken into custody over the weekend following a federal investigation into his handling of restricted government material. Prosecutors allege that Tellis violated 18 USC § 793(e), which prohibits unauthorised possession or retention of defence-related documents.

Investigators are also looking into allegations of Tellis removing classified documents from secure locations and meeting with Chinese officials.

the punishment

If convicted, Tellis could face up to 10 years in prison, a fine of $250,000, and forfeiture of the materials involved. The government emphasised that the complaint is an accusation and that Tellis remains presumed innocent until proven guilty.

[Cyrano]

Suddenly he becomes "Ashley J Tellis, a renowned foreign policy scholar and defence strategist of Indian origin," from "Ashley J Tellis, a renowned foreign policy scholar and defence strategist, a naturalized US citizen,"

C'est la vie in massaland... You are a useful lackey until you're not.

[A_Gupta]

“Earlier this year, an economic analysis by Moody’s Analytics found that the top 10% of earners—those making roughly $250,000 a year or more—now account for an astonishing 49.7% of all consumer spending. Thirty years ago, that figure was roughly 36%.”

[Manish_P]

Coffee is in trouble. Even before the United States imposed tariffs of 50 percent on Brazil and 20 percent on Vietnam—which together produce more than half of the world’s coffee beans—other challenges, including climate-change-related fires, flooding, and droughts, had already forced up coffee prices globally. Today, all told, coffee in the U.S. is nearly 40 percent more expensive than it was a year ago.
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Time for a Washington Coffee Party perhaps ... now who can rouse up all the starbucks coffee crowd

[Cyrano]

“Earlier this year, an economic analysis by Moody’s Analytics found that the top 10% of earners—those making roughly $250,000 a year or more—now account for an astonishing 49.7% of all consumer spending. Thirty years ago, that figure was roughly 36%.”

There are 2 reasons for this IMO
1. The bottom 90% are indeed getting poorer on relative terms, and therefore are spending mostly on essentials (food, basic clothing, shelter, utilities etc) and less on manufactured goods, entertainment, travel etc.

2. A huge part of their spending on non essentials is on cheap imported goods, from China, and Asia.

Both these are happening simultaneously, but in a stand alone comparison the "poor" today are way better off than the poor of previous decades.

[Cyrano]

The Atlantic says:
Coffee is in trouble. Even before the United States imposed tariffs of 50 percent on Brazil and 20 percent on Vietnam—which together produce more than half of the world’s coffee beans—other challenges, including climate-change-related fires, flooding, and droughts, had already forced up coffee prices globally. Today, all told, coffee in the U.S. is nearly 40 percent more expensive than it was a year ago.…

This is what I meant when I said climate change is now painted as the root of all evils in the other thread.

[A_Gupta]

Not all evils. Coffee cultivation problems. In the traditional coffee growing areas.
Here is one area where coffee cultivation is becoming possible (Yunnan province is China).
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/sjtg.12279