Understanding the US - Again

Career CIA Officer To NDTV On Why He's Convinced Indian-Origin Expert Ashley Tellis Is Chinese SpyAshley J Tellis case: "I'm pretty certain that he is [a Chinese spy]. There are two possible explanations. One, that he is a naive fool. Or two, that he is a spy for, it appears, China. It's pretty clear," former CIA officer Glen Carle told NDTV
Former CIA officer Glen Carle believes Indian-origin defence expert Ashley J Tellis was spying for China Tellis allegedly kept sensitive US defence information at his Virginia home since 2022Tellis faces up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine if convicted
Glen Carle, a career Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer who has served in the US National Intelligence Council, in an interview to NDTV explained why he is convinced that Indian-American strategic affairs expert Ashley J Tellis was spying for China.

Tellis has been arrested in the US on charges of unlawfully retaining national defence information.

Once known as the key architect of the landmark US-India civil nuclear deal in 2008, US prosecutors alleged Tellis printed sensitive material on US military aircraft capabilities and air force tactics, and then stashed them at his Virginia home.

Court filings allegedly showed he had been meeting Chinese officials in secret since 2022, including dinners where they discussed Iran-China ties and artificial intelligence (AI) technology.

"I'm pretty certain that he is [a Chinese spy]. There are two possible explanations. One, that he is a naive fool. Or two, that he is a spy for, it appears, China. It's pretty clear. The rules are explicit. Everybody knows them. One is briefed and has to live with them consciously in one's mind every second of one's, not just work day, but one's life in the intelligence world or dealing with classified information. And at the very least, he has broken rules that are illegal, and make his actions illegal," Carle told NDTV on Wednesday.

He said the Tellis case seems straightforward, and the penalties are quite explicit.

What Could Be The Motivation

On what could have motivated Tellis to spy for China despite the relatively high-profile and successful career he had, the former CIA officer said the reason could be anything because in the world of espionage, explaining and manipulating the motivations of someone so that the person commits espionage is the heart of the job.

"The answers are almost infinite... It could be that he wants to, the excitement, many people are motivated only by that, of breaking the rules and doing something others don't know about. It could be that he wanted money. It could be that he needed a woman or he needed a man or he simply wanted praise, or he wanted to do in his superiors or the institution where he was working for. Often, this is the following, one is the case," Carle said.

"[Or] He's working for a higher ideal. 'America is not getting it right. And if I only could make people understand among their adversaries, then the world would be a better place'. He probably has rationalised that multiple of these motivations can be acting at the same time. The job of the intelligence officer is to identify and then exploit those. And someone seems to have done it well with regard to Tellis," the former CIA officer said.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Oct 2025 09:18

https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the ... e-problem/
The $2,000,000,000,000 F-35 Stealth Fighter Has An Engine Problem

Key Points and Summary – The F-35’s current, trouble-prone F135 engine, now requiring a multi-billion-dollar fix, is a direct result of “penny-wise, pound-foolish” decisions made decades ago.

-A historical analysis traces the problem back to the 1990s “Engine War,” when the USAF chose a lower-cost but less-capable Pratt & Whitney engine for the F-22 over a superior GE design.

-This was compounded in 2011 when the competing GE alternate engine for the F-35 was canceled, giving the F135 a monopoly.

-This history has left the F-35 with an engine that is being taxed beyond its original design limits.

-This compounds other F-35 problems, considering the now $2 trillion lifetime cost of the fighter program

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 16 Oct 2025 10:52

A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 09:18 https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the ... e-problem/
The $2,000,000,000,000 F-35 Stealth Fighter Has An Engine Problem
...

Would have got the some real nitty gritty details if poster Brar_w was around.

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 16 Oct 2025 11:34

Trump’s Tariffs Backfire: Americans Are Paying the Price | Vantage with Palki Sharma
Donald Trump’s “Make America Manufacture Again” dream promised booming jobs and stronger domestic industries. But his tariffs on imports didn’t just hit foreign countries—they’ve hit American consumers hard. From inflated prices on imported and domestic goods to rising inflation and higher costs at the checkout, the trade war has become a boomerang. The U.S. economy is slowing, growth is weaker than expected, and Americans are losing soft power abroad. Palki Sharma tells you.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Oct 2025 11:47

“ According to the commerce ministry data, goods exports to the US fell by more than 20% to $5.43 billion in September from $6.87 billion in August, with tariffs impacting the shipments of items like carpets, textiles, shrimp, and gems and jewellery.”

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Oct 2025 11:55

Manish_P wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 10:52
A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 09:18 https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the ... e-problem/
The $2,000,000,000,000 F-35 Stealth Fighter Has An Engine Problem
...
Would have got the some real nitty gritty details if poster Brar_w was around.

All I have been able to find is “Block 4 upgrade: The engine's Block 4 modernization program is facing significant challenges due to increased power and cooling demands that the current engine design cannot handle without upgrades.” “Block 4 capabilities require more power and cooling than anticipated, which has prompted the DoD to modernise the overworked F135 engine.”

“According to concerns repeatedly voiced by the US Government Accountability Office in two reports published in 2023, the engine was originally due to be completed in 2026 and determined to cost $10.6bn. However, this ‘Block 4’ upgrade has risen to $16.5bn and now estimated to conclude in 2029.” “Fundamentally, the problem with the modernisation programme is that the DoD has not been able to distinguish its higher-than-expected costs, leaving the US Congress with “no clear picture of why demands and costs have spiked.””

Also:
https://www.spsnavalforces.com/experts- ... -Conundrum

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 16 Oct 2025 13:13

https://www.wired.com/story/cdc-termina ... down-rifs/

A quarter of the CDC workforce has been terminated. Whatever side you are on, this is objectively bad. I don’t see the Chinese stepping up or the Euros and even if the former did, no one would trust them.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 16 Oct 2025 20:35

Manish_P wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 10:52
A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 09:18 https://nationalsecurityjournal.org/the ... e-problem/
The $2,000,000,000,000 F-35 Stealth Fighter Has An Engine Problem
...
Would have got the some real nitty gritty details if poster Brar_w was around.

Yes. He got challenged here when Ukraine war started on mil for and he left.

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 16 Oct 2025 22:05

A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 11:47 “ According to the commerce ministry data, goods exports to the US fell by more than 20% to $5.43 billion in September from $6.87 billion in August, with tariffs impacting the shipments of items like carpets, textiles, shrimp, and gems and jewellery.”

Guptaji,
These items do not bother me. The problem is that the price of most items sold in large stores in the US, including food items have gone up. And this is going on for more than a year. This includes Amazon and Walmart where one could buy cheap. As I spend about 5 months in a year in Kolkata, I can see how stable prices are in India in comparison.
Gautam

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Oct 2025 22:07

“ US President Donald Trump on Thursday praised Sergio Gor, Ambassador-designate of the United States to India, and joked that he "better represent us, not them".”

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-ne ... 06066.html

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 16 Oct 2025 22:17

“ Trump told the United Nations General Assembly late last month: “Grocery prices are down, mortgage rates are down, and inflation has been defeated.””

The news is yet to reach Walmart and Amazon.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 16 Oct 2025 23:09

Justice Kavanaugh on Race-based Remedies

This court's cases, in a variety of contexts, have said that race-based remedies are permissible for a period of time, sometimes for a long period of time, decades, in some cases, but that they should not be indefinite and should have an end point.

What do people who support Dems doing race-based redistricting but also support ending reservations in India think?

There are some here for sure. Would SCI rule to have a sunset clause in reservations for SC/ST/OBC?

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 17 Oct 2025 05:15

Trump, a few hours ago, up to $20 trillion:

(YouTube transcript):

"Maria, can you imagine? Four years less than one. We're going to break 20 trillion dollars of investment and we're already over 17 trillion and that's in eight months. Can you believe that?"

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 17 Oct 2025 05:58

Someone lives in a fantasy world, and we are assured by some here that it is not Trump. Therefore, interpretation wanted, who has dropped out of BRICS?

The statement came while attending a bilateral lunch with Argentine President Javier Milei at the White House.
....

Speaking at the White House, Trump claimed that the member countries of BRICS were "dropping out" of the bloc soon after he threatened to impose tariffs for attempting to replace the American currency. "I told anybody who wants to be in BRICS, That's fine, but we're going to put tariffs on your nation. Everybody dropped out. They're all dropping out of BRICS," Trump said.

"I'm very strong on the dollar, and anybody who wants to deal in dollars, they have an advantage over people that aren't. I told anybody that wants to be in Brics, that's fine, but we're going to put tariffs on your nation... Everybody dropped out. They're all dropping out of BRICS," Trump said, news agency ANI reported.

"Brics was an attack on the dollar and I said, you want to play that game, I'm going to put tariffs on all of your products coming into the US. They said, like I said, we're dropping out of Brics...They don't even talk about it anymore," he added.

Added: the documented non-truths uttered by Trump go beyond 30,000 - since very few of them concern India, there is no need to list them here. Some few relevant to the topics here have been mentioned above.

Yet the default position seems to be, if Trump says something about India, the onus is on India to prove that it is wrong. Trump is plain-spoken and honest, and India is devious and deceptive, and all official statements are to viewed with suspicion and to be deconstructed in twenty different ways. There can’t be India setting its own narrative co-existing with this unwarranted deference and double-standard with Trump.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 17 Oct 2025 12:05

Found on the web:
"According to a report by Hong Kong’s South China Morning Post (SCMP) on the 16th, Huang revealed at a recent event in New York that due to U.S. semiconductor export restrictions, NVIDIA could no longer sell advanced products to Chinese companies, causing its market share in the advanced chip sector in China to drop from 95% to 0%."

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 17 Oct 2025 12:06

Trump and his clique, kala patthar etc have made hundreds of millions by shorting stocks and bitcoin in the past weeks and likely several times in the past months by insider trading, every time he makes such insane statements and falsehoods. It's a limitless greedy bunch of thugs.

chanakyaa · Post by **chanakyaa** » 17 Oct 2025 15:55

“ According to the commerce ministry data, goods exports to the US fell by more than 20% to $5.43 billion in September from $6.87 billion in August, with tariffs impacting the shipments of items like carpets, textiles, shrimp, and gems and jewellery.”
... The problem is that the price of most items sold in large stores in the US, including food items have gone up. And this is going on for more than a year.....

Thought I add a slightly different perspective, because this is Understanding...thread, for FWIW. The supreme leader is keeping people and news wires busy so people don't ask questions. Inflation is very high and affordability is a problem. But the the supreme leader wants the country to grow. Higher inflation and higher growth means, interest rates must stay high, which the supreme leader, as a hard core real estate person, does not like. So, how does the supreme leader fix the problem? Under the garb of political differences (which both parties are conveniently fine with), shutdown the government (on paper)

so, you can't report inflation. If you can't report inflation, I guess, there is no inflation

, and tariffs can stay on longer, how genius (sarcasm)?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/shu ... ion-report

But there is one problem, the financial markets are not stupid

Since the supreme leader's appointment GOLD has increased from $2,600 to $4,350,a historic 67% rise in 9 months (or another way of looking is fall of value of fiat currency). One unintended consequence of tariffs is that countries lower their currencies to minimize the effect of tariff, which is the real objective.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 17 Oct 2025 17:38

A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 11:55 ...

“According to concerns repeatedly voiced by the US Government Accountability Office in two reports published in 2023, the engine was originally due to be completed in 2026 and determined to cost $10.6bn. However, this ‘Block 4’ upgrade has risen to $16.5bn and now estimated to conclude in 2029.”
...
Also:
https://www.spsnavalforces.com/experts- ... -Conundrum

Thank you. I will try to dig some more info

Cyrano wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 20:35 Yes. He got challenged here when Ukraine war started on mil for and he left.

He was very through & disciplined in showing pertinent data from authoritative sources - especially for the F-35. He would of course present his perspective on the basis of that data & it might lead to some strong belief or bias (though i didn't find it in is posts - since he was focused more on the technical aspects and not the political one - except perhaps Ukraine). But data being data, one could think over it oneself and see what possible and probable conclusions it would indicate for self.

Anyway maybe he will visit these forums again. The F-35 has certainly visited India since he left and it has stayed here for a quite a while even if it unlikely to find a more permanent home here...

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 17 Oct 2025 20:38

https://x.com/ankitatIIMA/status/1979064519914586505

@ankitatIIMA
Worse than Dot com crash because all the numbers of the top 7 Tech companies driving the US stock market are totally FAKE.

https://x.com/ameyapathak2/status/1979064122999480395
@ameyapathak2
@ankitatIIMA

Kuch laug 3 saal ke neend ke baat jaag Gaye..unhe abhi apke shabd yaar aa rahe hai

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 17 Oct 2025 22:45

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vnl0yxg53o

Landmark global shipping deal in tatters after US pressure

Whatever ones position is on global warming, anything that serves to reduce emissions (in this case , shipping ones that are polluting as they burn any rubbish bunker oil) is always good.

But then orange man thinks its a scam so its a scam.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Oct 2025 00:13

uddu wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025 20:38 https://x.com/ankitatIIMA/status/1979064519914586505

@ankitatIIMA
Worse than Dot com crash because all the numbers of the top 7 Tech companies driving the US stock market are totally FAKE.

https://x.com/ameyapathak2/status/1979064122999480395
@ameyapathak2
@ankitatIIMA

Kuch laug 3 saal ke neend ke baat jaag Gaye..unhe abhi apke shabd yaar aa rahe hai

uddu ji,

auntie would make regular rounds of the PMO, FinMin, and other offices on a regular basis when she was pitching herself for the RBI governor's post on the retirement of shathikanta das.

But Modiji has burnt his fingers with that idiot rrr, and so it was very unlikely that he would import another gora led and fed lackey from the WB/IMF pigsty

That post being filled, auntie has stopped making her rounds, and peddling her financial wares and wizardry

like rrr, she is soreass backed and hence would have come in with an agenda just like rrr had done

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 18 Oct 2025 04:12

@chetak gaaru, you might already know this but GG's hubby Iqbal Dhaliwal works at Abdul Latif Jameel Poverty Lab at MIT which was founded by Duflo and Abhijit Banerjee. Here is a photo of the entire group.

Iqbal Dhaliwal, RRR, GG, Duflo, and Banerjee.

Vayutuvan · Post by **Vayutuvan** » 18 Oct 2025 05:50

g.sarkar wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 22:05
A_Gupta wrote: ↑16 Oct 2025 11:47 “ According to the commerce ministry data, goods exports to the US fell by more than 20% to $5.43 billion in September from $6.87 billion in August, with tariffs impacting the shipments of items like carpets, textiles, shrimp, and gems and jewellery.”
Guptaji,
These items do not bother me. The problem is that the price of most items sold in large stores in the US, including food items have gone up. And this is going on for more than a year. This includes Amazon and Walmart where one could buy cheap. As I spend about 5 months in a year in Kolkata, I can see how stable prices are in India in comparison.
Gautam

@Guatam ji, here is a link. HI and AL are the highest (no surprise there) but look at CA. Quite high.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state ... s-by-state

Code: Select all

State, Weekly Groc cost, COLI Grocery Cost Index

Hawaii,	$333.88,	130.4
Alaska,	$328.71,	127.1
California,	$297.72,	111.7
Nevada,	$294.76,	103.2
Mississippi,	$290.64,	96.3
Washington,	$287.67,	105.6
Florida,	$287.27,	105.2
New Mexico,	$286.39,	96.4
Texas,	$286.19,	96.1
...

It does make sense that both FL and TX are there on the list. NYC folks moved to FL in droves. Same with CA folks moving to TX. They started pushing the prices up.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 18 Oct 2025 17:44

Vayutuvan wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 04:12 @chetak gaaru, you might already know this but GG's hubby Iqbal Dhaliwal works at Abdul Latif Jameel Poverty Lab at MIT which was founded by Duflo and Abhijit Banerjee. Here is a photo of the entire group.

[img]https://img-cdn.publive.online/filters: ... 0.jpeg[img]

Iqbal Dhaliwal, RRR, GG, Duflo, and Banerjee.

Indeed, Vayutuvan ji.

Saw this group photo a long time ago.

Probably the only thing that will work to keep these vampires at bay would be a necklace of garlic bulbs and a stake through their evil hearts

what a bunch of insufferable ghouls..........

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 19 Oct 2025 05:20

https://www.timesofisrael.com/ny-anti-i ... s-killing/

Anti-Israel activists in New York City on Thursday set up a display with images of several terror chiefs to mark the first anniversary of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar’s death.

….
An announcement for the event was shared by other anti-Israel activist groups in the city, including the anti-Israel campus coalition at Columbia University.

“His embrace of death was not nihilistic but rooted in the conviction that martyrdom sustains the struggle,” Columbia University Apartheid Divest said in a Thursday statement hailing Sinwar.

—-

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 19 Oct 2025 08:17

Shashi Tharoor misunderstands the diaspora—we are not proxies for India in the US
India deserves a stronger voice on the global stage. But, expecting Indian Americans, increasingly under attack from both ends, to continue sacrificing and paying for it is not a sound strategy.
https://theprint.in/opinion/shashi-thar ... s/2757908/

—- what the people of Indian origin can and cannot do for India in their various countries of residence is probably a topic in itself.

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 19 Oct 2025 08:56

A_Gupta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 08:17 Shashi Tharoor misunderstands the diaspora—we are not proxies for India in the US
India deserves a stronger voice on the global stage. But, expecting Indian Americans, increasingly under attack from both ends, to continue sacrificing and paying for it is not a sound strategy.
https://theprint.in/opinion/shashi-thar ... s/2757908/
....

Yes... Indians are not like the Jews with their sense of brotherhood and Muslims with their ummah - a strong sense of unity under the faith.

But it's a two way street.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 19 Oct 2025 09:54

Manish_P wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 08:56 Yes... Indians are not like the Jews with their sense of brotherhood and Muslims with their ummah - a strong sense of unity under the faith.

But it's a two way street.

More like Christians in that sense, where Christianity doesn't really contribute to cross-border political unity. Maybe it helps Indians fit better into the European/American societies?

As an aside, the funniest thing I read was about American evangelical groups (of the type that support Trump) wanting to send missions to Mexico to convert the Catholics there to Christianity.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 19 Oct 2025 10:55

A_Gupta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 09:54
Manish_P wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 08:56 Yes... Indians are not like the Jews with their sense of brotherhood and Muslims with their ummah - a strong sense of unity under the faith.

But it's a two way street.
More like Christians in that sense, where Christianity doesn't really contribute to cross-border political unity. Maybe it helps Indians fit better into the European/American societies?

As an aside, the funniest thing I read was about American evangelical groups (of the type that support Trump) wanting to send missions to Mexico to convert the Catholics there to Christianity.

For their own safety, Hindus need to be like Jews. There is safety in numbers. It is important to have a pool of people and land that you can always fall back on when in need, regardless of where you are in the world or what passport you have.

sanjayc · Post by **sanjayc** » 19 Oct 2025 11:00

A_Gupta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 08:17 Shashi Tharoor misunderstands the diaspora—we are not proxies for India in the US
India deserves a stronger voice on the global stage. But, expecting Indian Americans, increasingly under attack from both ends, to continue sacrificing and paying for it is not a sound strategy.
https://theprint.in/opinion/shashi-thar ... s/2757908/

—- what the people of Indian origin can and cannot do for India in their various countries of residence is probably a topic in itself.

The dude who wrote this article in Print has no idea about the concept of Homeland and why it is important for a people, regardless of where they are in the world or what passport they hold. He and people of his ilk should remember what happed to those of Indian heritage in Kenya or Fiji or Singapore. Still second class citizens and still seen as outsiders. Reminds me of some white woman in Canada telling an Indian who held a Canadian passport: "I am sorry, you are only a Citizen, not a Canadian."

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 19 Oct 2025 14:23

The dudette is: Suhag A. Shukla is the co-founder and executive director of the Hindu American Foundation.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 19 Oct 2025 16:52

^ She has some identity issues. HAF while having an overall + role has largely been insufficient.
Haf and cohna both helped get Gavin newsome veto the khalistani bill . Credit when it's due .
I think we need many more organizations in the us across the political spectrum .
The Jews have courted bipartisan with orgs like adl being on the left . Aipac while giving baksheesh to everyone has in recent years gravitated towards the right . There are several more orgs bipartisan .

Besides haf and cohna I can't think of any other Sanatani organization of note in political spear. Iskon has played minor political roles from time to time but usually in local politics.

We especially need a political action committee similar to aipac that can be used to give baksheesh to the reps /senators .

We need concept of native motherland and a real gharawapsi program similar to aliyah /birthright that our Yehudi Cujjins have .

We need a Hindu identity that transcends ethnicity. Should encompass all the non ethnic Indians who adopted sanatan dharm. It's a very diverse group of people in terms of geography and manner in which they underwent gharawapsi. Some through marriage with an Indian origin person ,in which case they would probably have oci card eligibility. Others like like the st Petersburg hindus of Russia through a more organic yearning for hinduism .

Care must be taken to exclude the scams . Like not all Buddhism is sanatani. Some is more commie (funded by ccp ) , some scamy and some asmani kitabi .

But anyone who verifiably undergoes gharawapsi regardless of their ethnicity should be allowed to have a gharawapsi trip with India and after proper vetting an oci card . Hopefully a full passport at some point as well .

Manish_P · Post by **Manish_P** » 19 Oct 2025 17:30

A_Gupta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 09:54 ...
More like Christians in that sense, where Christianity doesn't really contribute to cross-border political unity.
...

Oh but it does, Gupta ji. Only it will not be overt as in publicly displayed as the ummah mobilization or the jew solidarity - except when & where needed.

They have a very organized support system via the activities of the church and it's organizational branches. The weekly massing (pun intended) helps keep the folk together. Just like it does for the followers of the other books.

In the west the Christians don't need to display it anyways as they are in essentially christian societies with little to no threat - even if the societies themselves are not overtly religious.

A_Gupta wrote: ↑19 Oct 2025 09:54 ...
Maybe it helps Indians fit better into the European/American societies?
...

It is also what makes Indians, especially Hindus, make statements like 'Don't expect us to sacrifice and pay for India's interests'

Years ago, one shock to my naivety was discovering that a lot of Folk on BRF forums are based out of india.

I got into trouble then when suggesting that when push would come to shove eventually (and inevitably), the overseas 'Indians' will have to side with their country of residence against a rising India.

gakakkad · Post by **gakakkad** » 19 Oct 2025 18:28

>>I got into trouble then when suggesting that when push would come to shove eventually (and inevitably), the overseas 'Indians' will have to side with their country of residence against a rising India.

I actually don't see that happening.

in ww1/2 the Krauts in the US supported US against germany . However the Japanese were interned in concentration camps. they looked different. Krauts would blend in with rest of the pack and found it easier to side with their adopted motherland.

The indians in us have varying degree of loyalty or disloyalty to India. that would stem from their pre-existing prejudices. I know some that have a sense of loathing towards India. similar to khalistani. the dinesh dsouzas would by more nazi than nazi in a US-India standoff.

the average gupta /agarwal /joshi/reddy (mango brfite and their descendants ) would try their best to not engage poltically . they would stick to writing code for their KB or seeing patients or whatever their occupation demands and stay out of poltical discussions and keep head down. i don't see most of them doing anything anti indian unless their is a gun pointed at their head.

there is a major societal change in the US. if it ever comes to a serious us -India standoff , (I don't consider the current saga as serious , i think its just a cicus) , forget desi origin folks. I don't see goras standing united for us. the massive wealth inequality has led the genz to question their nationalism. as such it is last resort of scoundrel onlee.. they'll be happy to swallow whatever koolaid the social media algo feeds them.

I don't see us-India stand off happening in our lifetime or even in our grandkids lifetime. the empire will quietly loosen its grip and try to heal itself from inside .

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 19 Oct 2025 18:52

Video included
https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1979725706864320834

@MeghUpdates
Today, 7 million people came out to protest Trump at 2,700 different locations.

This is now officially the largest protest in American history.

America will not go quietly.