Terroristan - March 31, 2022
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Diplomatic master stroke by pakistan..
To counter B.R.I.C.S. (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa).....
Pakistan has aligned with Rwanda, Iraq, Congo, Kazakhstan and Somalia....
They are calling themselves P.R.I.C.K.S.
To counter B.R.I.C.S. (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa).....
Pakistan has aligned with Rwanda, Iraq, Congo, Kazakhstan and Somalia....
They are calling themselves P.R.I.C.K.S.
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^ Jokes aside how close is Jihadistan to be included to the BRICS+ group
The chinese want their money back. The Americans are not going to pay the pakis to repay the chinese. The Chinese will want to include the pakis in BRICS+ and try to get other countries (India) money to recoup their losses
The chinese want their money back. The Americans are not going to pay the pakis to repay the chinese. The Chinese will want to include the pakis in BRICS+ and try to get other countries (India) money to recoup their losses
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Afghanistan Cricket Board cancels tri-series with Pakistan..
In response to the martyrdom of domestic cricket players in airstrikes by Pakistan's military regime in Paktika
In response to the martyrdom of domestic cricket players in airstrikes by Pakistan's military regime in Paktika
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Manish_P wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025 17:27 ^ Jokes aside how close is Jihadistan to be included to the BRICS+ group
The chinese want their money back. The Americans are not going to pay the pakis to repay the chinese. The Chinese will want to include the pakis in BRICS+ and try to get other countries (India) money to recoup their losses
Manish ji,
Isn't there a veto (IIRC, of any founding member) that stops a country's entry
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Chetak sir, there is.chetak wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 02:10Manish_P wrote: ↑17 Oct 2025 17:27 ^ Jokes aside how close is Jihadistan to be included to the BRICS+ group
The chinese want their money back. The Americans are not going to pay the pakis to repay the chinese. The Chinese will want to include the pakis in BRICS+ and try to get other countries (India) money to recoup their losses
Manish ji,
Isn't there a veto (IIRC, of any founding member) that stops a country's entry
But I have always felt that the local gully-mohalla childrens games have a stronger rules and honor system than international treaties.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
^^^" India cannot single-handedly “block” Pakistan’s entry into BRICS," but it can veto or withhold consent, which in practice amounts to the same thing.
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Manishji
Rather than the BRICS, its the NDB that the jihadi's are aiming at.
The Bank provides loans for developmental work etc.
IMF is asking too many questions to release paltry sums!!
Chinese wants to promote Jihadi's memberships into this bank so that they recoup all their losses!!
Rather than the BRICS, its the NDB that the jihadi's are aiming at.
The Bank provides loans for developmental work etc.
IMF is asking too many questions to release paltry sums!!
Chinese wants to promote Jihadi's memberships into this bank so that they recoup all their losses!!
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Rajesh ji, the money of BRICS get issued via the NDB right?SRajesh wrote: ↑18 Oct 2025 18:00 Manishji
Rather than the BRICS, its the NDB that the jihadi's are aiming at.
The Bank provides loans for developmental work etc.
IMF is asking too many questions to release paltry sums!!
Chinese wants to promote Jihadi's memberships into this bank so that they recoup all their losses!!
And the NDB members each have one equal vote and no veto power.
Also the east Pakistanis are already beneficiaries of NDB (BRICS) money.
Looks like it is not the Desperate Don who is the threat to break up BRICS.
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3 Afghan Cricketers Among 8 Dead In Pakistani Airstrike
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 53295.html
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-ne ... 53295.html
The latest flare-up came hours after Pakistan and Afghanistan reportedly agreed to extend their 48-hour ceasefire until the conclusion of talks in Doha.
Just as the conflict between Pakistan and Afghanistan seemed to ease up after a ceasefire announcement, the Taliban claimed late last night that Pakistani forces carried out airstrikes on its territory, killing at least 10 people.
Three local Afghanistan cricketers were along among those killed, the country's cricket board said, mourning the big loss.
The latest flare-up came hours after Pakistan and Afghanistan reportedly agreed to extend their 48-hour ceasefire until the conclusion of talks in Doha.
Afghanistan pulls out of tri-nation series with Pakistan
Following the killing of three local cricketers, Afghanistan's cricket board announced that they are pulling out of the tri-nation series involving Pakistan and Sri Lanka, "as a gesture of respect to the victims"
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Sorry was relaxing in my kave kamplex the last few weeks, did the Saudis come barreling down on camel backs to protect their Brotherly mulk from being violated by a rag tag militia? Or was it business as usual
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All this
by various chiefs on our side is basically preempting paki attack somewhere in mainland onlee.
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Pakistan-based terrorist group Jaish-e-Mohammed has initiated an online program named to recruit women into its newly formed Jamat ul-Muminat brigade, with daily 40-minute virtual lectures starting November 8..
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I presume Jamat ul Muminat members attend virtual lectures in full burqa. Do they have to put webcam on?
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https://www.news18.com/world/jamaat-al- ... 23172.html
According to top intelligence sources, Jamaat al-Mu’minaat is the JeM’s female front organisation for psychological warfare and grassroots recruitment that targets women in Jammu and Kashmir, Uttar Pradesh, and the southern states through encrypted online networks. It is aimed at recruiting and indoctrinating women under the guise of Islamic reform and piety, the sources said.
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https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/pakista ... ir-9501290
Amitabh Bacchan style dialogues being delivered by the pure green ones to the khaki Asim Munir “agar maa ka doodh piya hai to saamne aao”. No doubt he will give a befitting response from a 5 star ballroom in the west surrounded by expat Pakis who will extoll his purity…
Amitabh Bacchan style dialogues being delivered by the pure green ones to the khaki Asim Munir “agar maa ka doodh piya hai to saamne aao”. No doubt he will give a befitting response from a 5 star ballroom in the west surrounded by expat Pakis who will extoll his purity…
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Dunno how true this is: Pakistan puts 25K troops at Saudi disposal in return for $10 billion.
https://youtu.be/kOqFMWMQchI?si=AWQ8IhahaJREIUxQ
https://youtu.be/kOqFMWMQchI?si=AWQ8IhahaJREIUxQ
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Poland FM Radosław Sikorski makes no mention of Kashmir, India during joint presser with Pakistani FM Dar in Islamabad. This despite the host Pakistan repeatedly mentioning it.
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Explosive interview with ex-CIA agent John Kiriakou.
- Discussion is a confirmation of widely suspected intuitions on BRF regarding the unholy alliance between TSP and Unkil.
- The Nobel Peace Laureate Obama's 'peaceful' activities with TSP.
- The famous #3 of Al Qaida and how OBL managed to escape from Tora Bora to safe sanctuary in TSP.
- TSPs nukes and Unkil's control on them.
- The need for Unkil to keep TSP happy by paying out millions of dollars in cash to ISI.
- Unkil expected India to strike in retaliation for Mumbai attacks and how GoI under Khangress chickened out.
- The Saudi - Unkil transactional relationship
- US narrative building in the media - how Mumbai attacks were parroted by all the networks as Al Qaida.
- The Saudi army is pretty much a Paki army.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIyrvsi1nTw
- Discussion is a confirmation of widely suspected intuitions on BRF regarding the unholy alliance between TSP and Unkil.
- The Nobel Peace Laureate Obama's 'peaceful' activities with TSP.
- The famous #3 of Al Qaida and how OBL managed to escape from Tora Bora to safe sanctuary in TSP.
- TSPs nukes and Unkil's control on them.
- The need for Unkil to keep TSP happy by paying out millions of dollars in cash to ISI.
- Unkil expected India to strike in retaliation for Mumbai attacks and how GoI under Khangress chickened out.
- The Saudi - Unkil transactional relationship
- US narrative building in the media - how Mumbai attacks were parroted by all the networks as Al Qaida.
- The Saudi army is pretty much a Paki army.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIyrvsi1nTw
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^^^
Maybe he is the front man for Pakraine trying to negotiate shipment of arms Lahore-via-Kiyv.
Maybe he is the front man for Pakraine trying to negotiate shipment of arms Lahore-via-Kiyv.
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https://www.rediff.com/news/report/mush ... 251025.htm
Musharraf gave control of Pak's nukes to US: Ex-CIA officer
Hemant Waje, October 25, 2025
John Kiriakou, former CIA Officer, has said that the United States threw millions of dollars to Pakistan under the leadership of former President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf, in a way 'purchased' him.
In an interview with ANI, Kiriakou said that Pakistan was deep buried under corruption that Former Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto led a lavish life in the Gulf while the common people starved.
"Our relations with the Pakistani government were very, very good. It was General Pervez Musharraf at the time. And look, let's be honest here. The United States loves working with dictators. Because then you don't have to worry about public opinion and you don't have to worry about the media anymore. And so we essentially just purchased Musharraf," Kiriakou, who served 15 years in the CIA, first as an analyst and later in counter-terrorism, said.
He said that Musharraf then let the US do anything they wanted.
"We gave millions and millions and millions of dollars in aid, whether it was military aid or economic development aid. And we would meet with Musharraf regularly, several times a week. And essentially he would let us do whatever we wanted to do. Yes. But Musharraf also had his own people that he needed to deal with," he said.
Kiriakou said when he was stationed in Pakistan in 2002, he was told unofficially that the Pentagon controlled the Pakistani nuclear arsenal.
"That Musharraf had turned control over to the United States...But the Pakistanis in the intervening years, and remember, I was there 23 years ago...over the last 23 years, the Pakistanis have come to say that is absolutely not true. The United States has nothing to do with the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, that Pakistani generals are the ones who control it," he said.
Kiriakou said that Musharraf just kept the military 'happy,' and pretended to side with the US on counter-terrorism while carrying out terrorist activities against India.
"He had to keep the military happy. And the military didn't care about Al-Qaeda. They cared about India. And so in order to keep the military happy and keep some of the extremists happy, he had to allow them to continue this dual life of pretending to cooperate with the Americans on counter-terrorism while committing terror against India," he said.
"India-Pakistan were on the brink of war in 2002. December 2001 was when the parliament attack also happened. During that time," Kiriakou said.
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Gautam
Musharraf gave control of Pak's nukes to US: Ex-CIA officer
Hemant Waje, October 25, 2025
John Kiriakou, former CIA Officer, has said that the United States threw millions of dollars to Pakistan under the leadership of former President of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf, in a way 'purchased' him.
In an interview with ANI, Kiriakou said that Pakistan was deep buried under corruption that Former Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto led a lavish life in the Gulf while the common people starved.
"Our relations with the Pakistani government were very, very good. It was General Pervez Musharraf at the time. And look, let's be honest here. The United States loves working with dictators. Because then you don't have to worry about public opinion and you don't have to worry about the media anymore. And so we essentially just purchased Musharraf," Kiriakou, who served 15 years in the CIA, first as an analyst and later in counter-terrorism, said.
He said that Musharraf then let the US do anything they wanted.
"We gave millions and millions and millions of dollars in aid, whether it was military aid or economic development aid. And we would meet with Musharraf regularly, several times a week. And essentially he would let us do whatever we wanted to do. Yes. But Musharraf also had his own people that he needed to deal with," he said.
Kiriakou said when he was stationed in Pakistan in 2002, he was told unofficially that the Pentagon controlled the Pakistani nuclear arsenal.
"That Musharraf had turned control over to the United States...But the Pakistanis in the intervening years, and remember, I was there 23 years ago...over the last 23 years, the Pakistanis have come to say that is absolutely not true. The United States has nothing to do with the Pakistani nuclear arsenal, that Pakistani generals are the ones who control it," he said.
Kiriakou said that Musharraf just kept the military 'happy,' and pretended to side with the US on counter-terrorism while carrying out terrorist activities against India.
"He had to keep the military happy. And the military didn't care about Al-Qaeda. They cared about India. And so in order to keep the military happy and keep some of the extremists happy, he had to allow them to continue this dual life of pretending to cooperate with the Americans on counter-terrorism while committing terror against India," he said.
"India-Pakistan were on the brink of war in 2002. December 2001 was when the parliament attack also happened. During that time," Kiriakou said.
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Gautam
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The chap who leads this movement is quite a character.gakakkad wrote: ↑14 Oct 2025 07:06from what i gather TLP is a barelvi sect radical bunch . their agenda is different from some other yahoos and very specific. they are known to have particularly destructive riots and the last one they did was 6 months ago or more. they tend to scream "labaik ,labaik" during their protests.
palestine may have been a part of the reason of the protest but was by no means the only one and it should be seen in light of other protests like those happening in POJK /GB.
i think the porki written article are trying to give it a more of a israel/palestine spin than reality . likely they wanna suck upto trump as they think they can suppress the thoughts of their awaam.
He wanted Pakistan PM to go to Geneva with Koran in hand and atom bomb in another hand and tell everyone that he will blow everythign up unless international community gives Pakistan money
NSN reports that Pakistan army chief Asim Munir said "Thats a brilliant idea!!! and thats exactly what he is doing"
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An opinion piece on why Pakistan continues to be relevant.
https://english.mathrubhumi.com/columns ... s-gyrs613w
https://english.mathrubhumi.com/columns ... s-gyrs613w
Pakistan possesses five enduring strengths that ensure its relevance: a powerful military, a massive population, Islamic identity, an influential global diaspora, and proven alliance-building capabilities.
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Here is my take.
The Government was shooting at the TLP rioters because the latter's destination was the US Embassy in Islamabad.
Pakistan cannot afford to be seen as allowing such a situation to develop after having done all the hard work in turning around the relationship with the US. Too many people have too much to lose if anything untoward happens to the US Embassy, because the Berelvis are as violent and jihadi extremists as the Wahhabis or Deobandis. The 1979 attack on the Islamabad US Embassy, though allowed to happen by Gen. Zia-ul-Haq, couldn't be allowed to repeat in an entirely different context now. Then, the Americans needed Pakistan more (as Jinnah claimed) while now it's the other way around.
But, this is where it gets interesting. The TLP have traditionally enjoyed the goodwill of the Army simply by the fact that the Berelvis are the majoritarian Islamic sect of Pakistan. They dominate West Punjab and hence the Pakistani Army.
The protests around the visit of the Punjab Governor Salman Taseer to meet the blasphemy-accused Asia Bibi in prison (that later led to the assassination of Taseer by a Berelvi) in 2010, led to the formation of this extremist party. The 2006 Nishtar Park explosion (which was engineered by the Deobandi Sipah-e-Sahiba or SSP, the mother of all Pakistani Sunni terrorist organizations) which wiped out top Berelvi leadership coalesced the Berelvi sect and the hanging of Mumtaz Qadri, who killed Salman Taseer, galvanized Khadim Rizvi into creating this group in c. 2015.
It was in 2017 that it hit a jackpot. The then PML-N led government introduced a change in the Khatam-e-Nabbuwat (The Finality of Prophet Mohammed), a declaration that Pakistani Muslims have to make in certain situations. This is a tool to declare Ahmediyyas as non-Muslims. A change from, ‘I Swear . . . ‘ to ‘I Believe . . . ‘ was exploited by the TLP to the hilt leading to Pakistan coming to a grinding halt. The PML-N government, led by PM Khaqan Abbasi, asked the Army for help. Army refused and adding insult to injury asked the PM to talk directly to TLP and amicably resolve the issue. Gen. Bajwa (of Navjyot Singh fame, among other things) was the COAS then.
Riding on this ‘fame’, TLP contested the general elections in 2018 under a shortened name Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP), as it was earlier known as Tehreek-e-Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah Pakistan (TYLP), and became the third largest party in terms of votes polled (ahead of PPP) though it didn’t translate into as many seats in the National Assembly.
Shortly thereafter, in November 2018, an alleged ‘blasphemer’ of Christian denomination, Asia Bibi was released by the SC which ignited the TLP rioting even more. Initially PM Imran Khan said that his government would not budge in but like his predecessor, Khaqan Abbasi, he caved in and negotiated a ‘deal’ with TLP. Accordingly, Asia Bibi was put on Exit Control List (ECL) and the government filed a review petition against the judgement in the Supreme Court. There was again no support from the Army to the civilian government and even a possible covert support to TLP, which forced the Imran Khan-led PTI to negotiate with this extremist party.
So, TLP may not have overt support of the Pakistani Army like LeT or JeM but it has covert support like Hizb-ut-Tahrir (HuT). But, PA is now beholden to Trump & Witkoff and hence the turn of fortunes to TLP. This happens in Pakistan as for example, when the Punjabi Taliban turned against and attacked Musharraf and the Pakistani establishment after the (in)famous January 12, 2002 speech by him and the subsequent events including the Lal Masjid one.
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Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Israel's Jerusalem post reports on Pakistan banning Islamist party, Tehreek-e-Labbaik after deadly anti-Israel clashes. The party had planned to march to the US embassy in Islamabad over the Gaza situation, but Pak authorities in a strong use of force deterred that.
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Saudi aid:
Saudi Arabia has pledged to extend a $1 billion oil financing facility to Pakistan during the current fiscal 2025–26, while also rolling over $5 billion in deposits, officials from the Ministry of Finance confirmed on Monday.
According to ministry officials, the $1 billion oil facility will help Pakistan meet its energy import requirements and ease pressure on its foreign reserves. Officials said, the Kingdom will also roll over $5 billion in time deposits currently placed with the State Bank of Pakistan. Of the amount, $2 billion is due in December and $3 billion in June of 2026.
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The Saudi deposits, carrying a 4% annual interest rate, have been renewed each year to support Pakistan’s external account. The total value of the deposits stands at approximately Rs1.45 trillion, extended as budgetary support. Officials said the continuation of these facilities underscores Riyadh’s commitment to Pakistan’s economic stability amid persistent fiscal challenges.
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Pak PM Shehbaz Sharif gets factchecked after his Kashmir propaganda tweet on @X today. Kashmir has always been an integral part of India and will remain so always. Pakistan’s illiterate PM needs a history lesson.

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There is a compulsion among Indians to factually correct Pakistanis.
No 1965 war was lost, 7 planes were not shot down, there is no democracy in Pakistan, Hindus are maltreated in Pakistan. Ad nauseum.
They know the facts. The great white man also knows the facts.
There is no point in wasting breath in such activity. These are not teachable moments. The point is they are telling you that objective reality is immaterial. Islamic reality is the preferred one of the multiverse possibilities. Where India has lost its territory to marauders and is burdened with their brothers biding their time.
2-3 year beatings and humiliations are the price for this victory.
They may gas sufficient to terra form the planet. India in 2030 wil be literally 20 times the economy of Pakistan.
You will have their attention when Muslims in India start to become ex Muslims. The process may have started but it is difficult to quantify for obvious reasons.
No 1965 war was lost, 7 planes were not shot down, there is no democracy in Pakistan, Hindus are maltreated in Pakistan. Ad nauseum.
They know the facts. The great white man also knows the facts.
There is no point in wasting breath in such activity. These are not teachable moments. The point is they are telling you that objective reality is immaterial. Islamic reality is the preferred one of the multiverse possibilities. Where India has lost its territory to marauders and is burdened with their brothers biding their time.
2-3 year beatings and humiliations are the price for this victory.
They may gas sufficient to terra form the planet. India in 2030 wil be literally 20 times the economy of Pakistan.
You will have their attention when Muslims in India start to become ex Muslims. The process may have started but it is difficult to quantify for obvious reasons.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Saudi aid to Pakistan, US-Pakistan close relationship once again after the 'n'th time divorce & remarriage, US assurances that their relationship with Pakistan is not at our cost, continuing close China-Pakistan relationship, a chill in the India-US relationship, Pakistan's military alliance (this time with Saudi Arabia), Afghanistan-Pakistan tension, US interested in an airbase in the region (this time in Afghanistan), US-Iran tension -- a throwback to the situation at the height of Cold War. Would Pakistan have helped the US once again in its dealings with China in the tariff/technology war as it did in 1971? Wonder who the common enemy this time is.
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A new live frontier emerges in India-Pakistan tensions - ET
For decades, the India–Pakistan rivalry has found its most volatile expression along the northern frontier in Jammu & Kashmir, across the Line of Control (LoC) and in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK), where Pakistan-backed terror networks have persisted.
However, the geography of India-Pakistan tensions is shifting. The latest Indian tri-service combat exercise Trishul, now underway on the western front with Pakistan, puts in focus Sir Creek in Gujarat as a new, active frontier in the long and complex security equation between the two neighbours.
Trishul and Pakistan’s moves
India’s major tri-service exercise Trishul, being conducted from October 30 to November 10, has led to the issuance of a NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) over a vast stretch of airspace along the Rajasthan-Gujarat border. Pakistan, too, has responded by issuing flight restrictions over its central and southern regions, possibly for its own military exercise or missile test. The NOTAM, which builds on one issued earlier, now covers most of Pakistani airspace, with flights being restricted due to planned military exercises. Such simultaneous NOTAMs evoke memories of the heightened posturing seen after Operation Sindoor.
While Indian military officers have told TOI that Trishul is a routine annual tri-service practice, its timing, location and scale indicate a deeper strategic message. The exercise’s epicentre is the marshy, salt-encrusted expanse of the Sir Creek region. The inclusion of joint offensive and defensive drills involving all three services suggests that India is testing not merely its readiness but also its ability to deter potential maritime incursions or asymmetric threats emanating from Pakistan. India apprehends Pakistani misadventure in Sir Creek. Pakistan is said to be upgrading its military infrastructure in the Sir Creek region. Defence Minister Rajnath Singh's recent warning to Pakistan highlighted this. The Pakistani navy chief visited the Sir Creek area over the weekend to inspect troops and check on preparedness.
Sir Creek: Geography, history and stakes
Sir Creek, a narrow 96-kilometre-long tidal estuary separating Gujarat’s Rann of Kutch from Pakistan’s Sindh province, has long been an unresolved border dispute. Once called Ban Ganga, it was renamed after a British official during colonial administration. Though it appears desolate, inhabited mainly by vipers, scorpions and migratory birds, its significance is immense.
At stake is not merely a narrow strip of marshland, but control over where the land boundary transitions into the sea. The determination of this line defines the starting point of each country’s Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ), which stretches 370 kilometres into the Arabian Sea. The implications involve maritime rights, fishing grounds, seabed resources and possibly oil and gas reserves which are said to be lying under the sea bed in Sir Creek. Studies estimate that Pakistan could lose around 2,246 square kilometres of EEZ if India’s interpretation that the boundary follows the midstream is accepted.
India bases its claim on paragraph 10 of a 1914 resolution that identifies Sir Creek as a navigable channel, thereby supporting the midstream boundary rule. Pakistan, however, insists that the eastern bank marks the border, effectively granting it control over the entire creek. The issue, unresolved despite multiple rounds of negotiations since 1969, has thus remained a stubborn relic of Partition-era border issues.
Commencing in 1969, these bilateral discussions have seen the two nations engage in a dozen odd negotiations, yet the parties have not managed to arrive at a definitive resolution or mutual accord on the matter. The issue resurfaced militarily in 1999 when an Indian MiG-21 shot down a Pakistani surveillance aircraft over the creek. The last such formal talks were held in June 2012 and the two sides inter-alia discussed the land boundary in the Sir Creek area and delimitation of the international maritime boundary between them. In December 2015, it was agreed to start a comprehensive bilateral dialogue, including the Sir Creek issue. However, the January 2016 terror attack on the Pathankot Airbase and Pakistan’s continued support to cross-border terrorism against India has prevented holding of any structured dialogue.
For much of the post-Independence period, Sir Creek was treated as a peripheral concern, overshadowed by the intense military and political focus on the northern sectors. But recent developments suggest a shift. The Southern Command of the Indian Armed Forces has elevated the creek’s strategic importance, particularly after Operation Sindoor. The discovery of abandoned boats in the region, suspected to have originated from Pakistan, has increased in frequency over the past few years. These findings underscore Sir Creek’s vulnerability as a possible infiltration route, a maritime alternative to the infiltration routes used across the LoC.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh’s recent warning to Pakistan, nearly a month ago, underlined the area’s new prominence. His statement that “any aggression by Pakistan in the Sir Creek area will be met with a resounding response that will change both history and geography” reflects both a shift in tone and a recalibration of deterrence. His remark that “one route to Karachi passes through the creek” was a reminder that India possesses both the capability and the resolve to act decisively in this sector. A month after his statement, Sir Creek becomes the focus of India's major military exercise.
Pakistan’s recent expansion of military infrastructure near the creek, including new observation posts and logistics facilities, has been interpreted by many as a sign of its growing interest in the area.
Why Sir Creek matters now
Several dynamics explain why Sir Creek has moved from the margins to the forefront of India-Pakistan tensions. Its geostrategic location adjoining key naval and air bases and within proximity of vital coastal installations makes it central to India’s coastal defence grid. Pakistan has also threatened to hit India's oil refineries in the nearby region.
Also, Sir Creek has emerged as a symbolic frontier of deterrence. With India successfully containing infiltration in many northern zones and Pakistan struggling with its own internal instability, the western coastal region offers a new theatre where Pakistan might attempt limited provocation. India’s clear military signalling through Trishul indicates that it is unwilling to allow any ambiguity or vulnerability in this arena.
The transformation of Sir Creek into a nerve point of India–Pakistan tensions reveals that India’s threat perception has expanded beyond traditional land frontiers to include maritime vulnerabilities. As Pakistan’s internal pressures mount and its strategic options narrow, the temptation to test India’s resolve in new theatres cannot be ruled out.
By focusing on Sir Creek through Trishul and with explicit political messaging such as the statement by Rajnath Singh, India is trying to deter Pakistan from trying new ways against India.
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The only reality that Islam understands is land and numbers. And it is a reality that a) India has lost land to them and b) the population of Muslims is growing at a faster rate than hindus.sanjaykumar wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 04:49 ... Islamic reality is the preferred one of the multiverse possibilities. Where India has lost its territory to marauders and is burdened with their brothers biding their time.
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Say what?...
You will have their attention when Muslims in India start to become ex Muslims. The process may have started but it is difficult to quantify for obvious reasons.
Data doesn't show or support this
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Meanbile in jihadistan
Yawn -Information ministry rubbishes ‘completely fabricated’ report on Pakistan sending troops for Gaza peace force
Yawn -Information ministry rubbishes ‘completely fabricated’ report on Pakistan sending troops for Gaza peace force
The information ministry on Tuesday rubbished what it said was a “completely fabricated” report about an alleged deal between the United States’ Central Intelligence Agency and Israel’s Mossad that would see Pakistan sending troops to Gaza for a peace force.
A cornerstone of the US-brokered Gaza Peace Agreement is the establishment of the International Stabilisation Force (ISF), composed mainly of troops from Muslim-majority countries. According to officials close to the discussions, an announcement is expected soon from the federal government regarding the decision.
Officials familiar with the deliberations, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, said discussions within the government and military establishment were at an “advanced stage”. According to them, the tone of internal consultations suggests that Islamabad is inclined to take part in the mission.
Earlier today, Indian news outlet First Post reported that per CNN-News 18, top intelligence sources said “Pakistan is preparing to deploy up to 20,000 troops to Gaza after Field Marshal Asim Munir held secret meetings with senior officials from Israel’s Mossad and America’s CIA.” It further said sources told CNN-News 18 that the role of Pakistani troops’ would allegedly include “neutralising remaining Hamas elements and stabilising the territory under Western instructions”.![]()
The report added that Pakistani troops would “act as a buffer force between Israel and Gaza’s remaining armed factions, providing a security umbrella while facilitating reconstruction and institutional restructuring”, according to sources. # basically cannon fodder
“In exchange for such a deployment, Israel and the United States have promised Pakistan a package of economic incentives, including World Bank loan leniency, deferred repayment schedules, and financial support routed through Gulf intermediaries, sources said. # basically more pizza franchises for the Jernails and plots in UAE for the kernails
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Secret drone pact and ‘right to bomb’ Afghan soil: Pakistan’s shocking terms that enraged Taliban | Explained
https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/secr ... 3.html/amp
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In yet another diplomatic fiasco, Pakistan has reportedly admitted to having a secret arrangement with a foreign country under which drone strikes are carried out inside Afghanistan, and claimed it cannot prevent future attacks because it is “bound” by the agreement. The revelation has enraged Kabul and pushed already-tense ties to the brink of open conflict.
According to a report by Afghanistan’s TOLO News, Islamabad told Afghan negotiators that it had “an agreement with a foreign country allowing drone strikes” and that it “cannot prevent them as breaking the agreement is not possible.” The source quoted by TOLO News added that Pakistan even asked Afghanistan to “recognise Pakistan’s right to strike Afghan territory in response to TTP attacks.”
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
That foreign country has agreement to strike both inside Afghanistan and Pakistan.A_Gupta wrote: ↑28 Oct 2025 21:44 Secret drone pact and ‘right to bomb’ Afghan soil: Pakistan’s shocking terms that enraged Taliban | Explained
https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/secr ... 3.html/amp
In yet another diplomatic fiasco, Pakistan has reportedly admitted to having a secret arrangement with a foreign country under which drone strikes are carried out inside Afghanistan, and claimed it cannot prevent future attacks because it is “bound” by the agreement. The revelation has enraged Kabul and pushed already-tense ties to the brink of open conflict.
According to a report by Afghanistan’s TOLO News, Islamabad told Afghan negotiators that it had “an agreement with a foreign country allowing drone strikes” and that it “cannot prevent them as breaking the agreement is not possible.” The source quoted by TOLO News added that Pakistan even asked Afghanistan to “recognise Pakistan’s right to strike Afghan territory in response to TTP attacks.”
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
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India to base IAF assets at Bagram Airbase, Afghanistan!
Looks like Chump's favorite Field Mulcher Munir not only failed to secure America's access to Bagram-- but also failed to dissuade the Taliban from giving India access to Bagram