Indian IT Industry

[pravula]

And what, pray, web engine will these browsers use? There is only two out there, one owned by Google and one by Apple.

[Vayutuvan]

And what, pray, web engine will these browsers use? There is only two out there, one owned by Google and one by Apple.

Webkit and Blink both are GNU LGPL, BSD style. Gecko is Mozilla Public. Only major (?) engine, Trident of MS, is proprietary.

"LGPL, BSD style" is quite liberal (though not as liberal as MIT Licence), so is "Mozilla Public". LGPL means you can link them as libraries (or are they moules) to your commercial closed source code. You find bugs, you can always fork and maintain your fork downstream. Easier still is to contribute to the code base directly. LGPL means you have to only share the code of the library only, not your application code. In that sense it is more liberal than GPL.

[Vayutuvan]

Reference for the above post is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... er_engines

[pravula]

Reference for the above post is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... er_engines

If that’s the bar, then get a Linux distribution and call it a day. The discussion was on an Indian OS right?

[Vayutuvan]

Reference for the above post is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... er_engines

If that’s the bar, then get a Linux distribution and call it a day. The discussion was on an Indian OS right?

My understanding is that we are talking about a Linux respin. There is little profit, i.e. advantage, in a reinventing the wheel. Use Linux on the backend and Webkit or Blink for the front end UX/GUI.

[bala]

@bala gaaru, I disagree on two things -
2. Hyperloop is hyperhype.

Vayu ji this is interesting development on "Hyperloop".

Bharat Earth Movers Limited(BEML), a public sector undertaking under the Ministry of Defence, has signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with TuTr Hyperloop, a deep-tech startup incubated at IIT Madras, to jointly develop India's first indigenously designed Hyperloop transportation system.

Hyperloop is a transport system where pods carrying passengers or cargo travel through sealed tubes under near-vacuum conditions. The system uses Magnetic Levitation (Maglev) and Linear Induction Motor (LIM) propulsion to achieve high speeds.

Manufacturing and prototype development

As per BEML will act as the principal manufacturing partner for TuTr Hyperloop. The collaboration will focus on building a prototype pod capable of carrying passengers and cargo at high speeds. The system aims to offer a faster and more efficient transport solution. The prototype will incorporate LIM and Maglev systems as part of its propulsion architecture.

This partnership is a step forward for India's efforts in high-speed transportation, said Shantanu Roy, Chairman and Managing Director, BEML. It aligns with the goals of Viksit Bharat 2047 and Atmanirbhar Bharat by supporting transport systems built with Indian engineering and manufacturing.

At TuTr, we are working to translate scientific research into technologies that can change how people and goods move, said Prof Kamakoti of IIT-M. TuTr Hyperloop was previously selected under the Ministry of Railways Hyperloop Development Programme and has been working on experimental test tracks in partnership with academic institutions. The collaboration with BEML marks one of the first formal steps toward establishing a commercial-scale indigenous Hyperloop system.


https://infra.economictimes.indiatimes. ... /123108548

[uddu]

https://x.com/TheAtulMishra/status/1965399706697425048
@TheAtulMishra
One day I discovered Zoho. And very quickly its apps like Mail, Cliq, Projects, Books and more recently Tables replaced every American service I thought was indispensable.

@svembu
is the greatest visionary of this generation and I hope more techies follow his footsteps.

PS: I have drafted this tweet on an iPhone. I hope to use an Indian phone. Not a handset, that’s easy - but an operating system.

[uddu]

This is the next stage of adoption.
https://x.com/Arun_Golaya/status/1971441765816082882
@Arun_Golaya
Arattai will work *only* if it is adopted en masse. I will do my bit by encouraging all friends, classmates, coursemates & family groups to migrate.

Also all groups of the Golaya Progressive Public School, Palwal
@GPPS_Palwal will progressively shift to #Arratai. That’s about 5k users straight away.

I have done my bit. Have you? Let’s give it a fair chance

@Zoho @svembu @nitingokhale @BharatShaktiBSI

[uddu]

https://x.com/svembu/status/1975425916403916859

Even as our Arattai team is scaling up and fine tuning the product, our other product teams are hard at work.

Last year Zoho became an RBI authorized payment aggregator in India and launched our online payment solutions. We are now deepening our fintech footprint by unveiling our all-new Zoho Payments Point-of-Sale (POS) Devices. With our new devices, businesses can accept in-person payments while staying seamlessly connected to their broader ecosystem.

As part of our broader push in global fintech and payments, we have partnered with NPCI’s NBBL to address real business challenges and strengthen India’s digital payments infrastructure.

(Yes, on the consumer front, Arattai will integrate Zoho Pay, please give us some time!)

[uddu]

Switching from Gmail to Zoho Mail made easy: Here’s a step-by step guide to help you for a smooth transition
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tec ... 354355.cms

How to transfer from Gmail to Zoho Mail

Create a Zoho Mail account: First things first, visit Zoho Mail and start the processor sign up for free or you can also select a paid plan as per your need

Enable IMAP in Gmail: After this go to Gmail settings > Forwarding and POP/IMAP → Enable IMAP. This will enable Zoho to access your Gmail data.

Use Zoho’s migration tool: Now in the Zoho Mail settings, go to the Import/Export section. Once there use the Migratuib Wizard to import emails, folders and contacts from Gmail.

Set up Email forwarding: Now in the Gmail settings, enable forwarding to your new Zoho Mail address this steps will make sure that you don’t miss out on any incoming messages.

Update contacts and accounts: Now inform your contacts about your new email address and update it across services like banking, subscriptions, and social media.

[uddu]

https://x.com/svembu/status/1976473042869162042
@svembu
There is a point about R&D I make repeatedly: R&D is not expensive but time intensive and best results are achieved by teams who stay committed long term.

American companies solved the need for long term committed people with the H1-B visa and the extremely long green card process, both of which made it painful or risky to switch jobs. This gave them a source of committed talent.

Since companies tend to promote those who are committed, Indians got promoted. There was no conspiracy to promote Indians, it was one consequence of the visa/green card system.

Tech companies in India need to realize the importance of this. It is about creating that culture of long term focus on R&D.

[uddu]

Zoho: Made in India — The Inside Story

[uddu]

IndiaFOSS 2025
Schedule
20/09/2025
Day 1 20/09/2025
Day 2 21/09/2025
https://fossunited.org/dashboard/schedu ... afoss/2025

[uddu]

APT36 Targets Indian Government with Golang-Based DeskRAT Malware Campaign
https://thehackernews.com/2025/10/apt36 ... -with.html

A Pakistan-nexus threat actor has been observed targeting Indian government entities as part of spear-phishing attacks designed to deliver a Golang-based malware known as DeskRAT.

The activity, observed in August and September 2025 by Sekoia, has been attributed to Transparent Tribe (aka APT36), a state-sponsored hacking group known to be active since at least 2013. It also builds upon a prior campaign disclosed by CYFIRMA in August 2025.

The attack chains involve sending phishing emails containing a ZIP file attachment, or in some cases, a link pointing to an archive hosted on legitimate cloud services like Google Drive. Present within the ZIP file is a malicious Desktop file embedding commands to display a decoy PDF ("CDS_Directive_Armed_Forces.pdf") using Mozilla Firefox while simultaneously executing the main payload.

Both the artifacts are pulled from an external server "modgovindia[.]com" and executed. Like before, the campaign is designed to target BOSS (Bharat Operating System Solutions) Linux systems, with the remote access trojan capable of establishing command-and-control (C2) using WebSockets.

The malware supports four different methods for persistence, including creating a systemd service, setting up a cron job, adding the malware to the Linux autostart directory ("$HOME/.config/autostart"), and configuring .bashrc to launch the trojan by means of a shell script written to the "$HOME/.config/system-backup/" directory.

[uddu]

Govt issues high risk warning for Google Chrome users and you should not miss it
https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2025-06-19
The Indian Computer Emergency Response Team has issued a high-risk alert for desktop users of Google Chrome due to serious security vulnerabilities. Here is what you need to do.

[RCase]

APT36 Targets Indian Government with Golang-Based DeskRAT Malware Campaign
https://thehackernews.com/2025/10/apt36 ... -with.html

A Pakistan-nexus threat actor has been observed targeting Indian government entities as part of spear-phishing attacks designed to deliver a Golang-based malware known as DeskRAT.

The activity, observed in August and September 2025 by Sekoia, has been attributed to Transparent Tribe (aka APT36), a state-sponsored hacking group known to be active since at least 2013. It also builds upon a prior campaign disclosed by CYFIRMA in August 2025.

The attack chains involve sending phishing emails containing a ZIP file attachment, or in some cases, a link pointing to an archive hosted on legitimate cloud services like Google Drive. Present within the ZIP file is a malicious Desktop file embedding commands to display a decoy PDF ("CDS_Directive_Armed_Forces.pdf") using Mozilla Firefox while simultaneously executing the main payload.

Both the artifacts are pulled from an external server "modgovindia[.]com" and executed. Like before, the campaign is designed to target BOSS (Bharat Operating System Solutions) Linux systems, with the remote access trojan capable of establishing command-and-control (C2) using WebSockets.

The malware supports four different methods for persistence, including creating a systemd service, setting up a cron job, adding the malware to the Linux autostart directory ("$HOME/.config/autostart"), and configuring .bashrc to launch the trojan by means of a shell script written to the "$HOME/.config/system-backup/" directory.

i think they should also be paying attention to malware/ scripts being spread using steganography methods utilizing multimedia files.

[uddu]

Chinese AI related
https://x.com/rryssf_/status/1985646517689208919
Holy shit... this might be the next big paradigm shift in AI.

Tencent + Tsinghua just dropped a paper called Continuous Autoregressive Language Models (CALM) and it basically kills the “next-token” paradigm every LLM is built on.

Instead of predicting one token at a time, CALM predicts continuous vectors that represent multiple tokens at once.

Meaning: the model doesn’t think “word by word”… it thinks in ideas per step.

Here’s why that’s insane

→ 4× fewer prediction steps (each vector = ~4 tokens)
→ 44% less training compute
→ No discrete vocabulary pure continuous reasoning
→ New metric (BrierLM) replaces perplexity entirely

They even built a new energy-based transformer that learns without softmax no token sampling, no vocab ceiling.

It’s like going from speaking Morse code… to streaming full thoughts.

If this scales, every LLM today is obsolete.

[uddu]

https://x.com/Grummz/status/1985720312789626962
@Grummz
The more you cite and link to Grokipedia, the faster you kill Wikipedia.

The algorithm will start to favor it, on goggle search and elsewhere. Even if you post and share links here.

We can beat
@wikipedia
. Post post post!

[bala]

What is “small AI" and Why Does it Matter for Developing Economies?

Bhaskar Chakravorti, Dean of Global Business, Fletcher School, Tufts University explains how "small AI" differs from "big AI” and how it can serve as a bridge between innovation and local impact.



// SLM and MLM (small and medium LM) are more valuable than LLM. Google, chatgpt, AWS, IBM, Microsoft are attempting trying to solve general query stuff whose business case is yet to be proven. Industries need SLM and MLM and India especially needs SLM and MLM to solve specific domain issues be it medicine/healthcare, industry, power sector, infra build out and more. Babus/officialdom with process, forms, regulations - all can be solved with SLM/MLM and Judiciary can be replaced with one very intelligent AI program with SLM/MLM driving it. The efficiency afforded by such changeover is huge and will streamline things a lot across India. DRDO can use some SLM/MLM to create new products. Armed forces too.

[SBajwa]

Small AI refers to narrow or specialized artificial intelligence systems that are designed to perform a specific, limited task very well — unlike general AI (or AGI), which would be capable of human-like reasoning across many domains.

Here’s a breakdown:

Definition
Small AI, also known as Narrow AI or Weak AI, is an AI system built for a single purpose or a narrow range of functions. It doesn’t understand or learn beyond the data or task it was trained for.

Examples
Voice assistants like Siri or Alexa (they only understand limited commands)
Recommendation engines (Netflix, Amazon, YouTube)
Spam filters in email
Facial recognition systems
Chatbots trained for customer support
Predictive text in your phone keyboard

Characteristics
Focused on one domain (e.g., speech recognition)
Uses machine learning or rule-based logic
Lacks self-awareness or general reasoning
Performs better than humans in narrow contexts but worse outside them

[S_Madhukar]

Manufacturing and industry in general is well poised for this. They have lots of sensor data , no issue of personal data and generally own their data as 1st party … great for root cause analysis etc… hope desi IT majors cater to this segment … I think some of the major names have already had a head start.

Some of Amirkhan humanoid robot guys are using people here to create training data for them doing chores like folding clothes etc. hopefully our guys can tap into this too