India-US relations: News and Discussions IV
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Deal signing should not be attended by PM. Piyush Goyal can attend. The next moment of signing the deal, Trump could state something else and the blot will be on our PM. Trump should be avoided for the remaining time of his term. Even if its that inevitable a short recorded speech could be played or through video conference. Any statement made during that short interaction need to be countered right there itself and closed.
Indians will never ever show any respect for Trump. He thinks everyone is like him and will change their respect based on the money flowing and on business deals.
https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1987991927531467045
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US President Donald Trump says, "We're making a deal with India, a much different deal than we had in the past. So right now, they don't love me, but they'll love us again. We're getting a fair deal, just a fair trade deal. We had pretty unfair trade deals...But we're getting close. Scott, I think we're pretty close to doing a deal that's good for everybody, right?..."
Indians will never ever show any respect for Trump. He thinks everyone is like him and will change their respect based on the money flowing and on business deals.
https://x.com/AdityaRajKaul/status/1987991927531467045
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US President Donald Trump says, "We're making a deal with India, a much different deal than we had in the past. So right now, they don't love me, but they'll love us again. We're getting a fair deal, just a fair trade deal. We had pretty unfair trade deals...But we're getting close. Scott, I think we're pretty close to doing a deal that's good for everybody, right?..."
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Piyush Goyal Draws Red Line In India-US Trade Talks, Says No Compromise On Farmers Or Fishermen
Commerce Minister Piyush Goyal has made India’s stand crystal clear in the ongoing trade negotiations with the United States - “We want a fair, equitable, and balanced trade deal, but we are not going to compromise.” Speaking at Udyog Samagam 2025, Goyal said India will protect the interests of its farmers, fishermen, and dairy sector while pursuing global growth. Talks between India and the US have entered their sixth phase, aiming to finalize the first tranche of the trade pact by late 2025. The deal, which could double bilateral trade to $500 billion by 2030, comes amid tariff tensions that began during the Trump administration. While Washington hopes for faster progress, India’s message is firm that national interests will come first. As both sides prepare for the final push, Goyal’s words echo a new confidence in India’s economic diplomacy.
'India Won’t Be A Dumping Ground': Piyush Goyal Blasts China For Unfair And Unethical Trade Practice
Commerce and Industry Minister Piyush Goyal has issued a stern warning that India will not tolerate the dumping of low-quality goods from foreign markets. Taking a strong stance against unfair trade practices, Goyal said countries exploiting tariff gaps, especially after US tariff changes, are flooding developing markets with substandard products. Speaking at an industry forum, he declared, “India will not become a dumping ground.” The minister emphasized that the government is tightening quality checks, enforcing international standards, and protecting domestic industries. Highlighting the importance of Atmanirbhar Bharat, Goyal said the focus is now on boosting exports, strengthening manufacturing, and ensuring every trade pact remains fair and balanced. His fiery statement signals a decisive shift in India’s trade philosophy: one rooted in dignity, quality, and national interest.
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In fact, India has been measured, cautious and professional. Until the CCS reviewed all data from the investigation and made a collective determination, no official statement from GOI referred to the blast as 'an act of terror'. But now it is out there, and India has already pronounced that it will view any act of terrorism linked to Pakistan as an act of war by Pakistan.
By laying it on thick with his Munir friendship, claims about ending the May hostilities, crypto/"rear-earth" dealings with Pakistan, sanctions/tariffs against India-- Trump has in fact squandered any leverage that previous US administrations might have counted on to stay India's hand under the present circumstances. All he can do now (and has done) is decline to deliver a couple of AH-64s on time, not that the Indian armed forces would have been counting on those for Sindoor Part II.
By laying it on thick with his Munir friendship, claims about ending the May hostilities, crypto/"rear-earth" dealings with Pakistan, sanctions/tariffs against India-- Trump has in fact squandered any leverage that previous US administrations might have counted on to stay India's hand under the present circumstances. All he can do now (and has done) is decline to deliver a couple of AH-64s on time, not that the Indian armed forces would have been counting on those for Sindoor Part II.
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^^^ xpost Yes they’re very capable in these investigations .. and they know a terrorist sponsor when they see one.....
Meanwhile sharing : ....
Indians bring their whole village to America: Ann Coulter says everyone knows Indians and Chinese openly cheat
Meanwhile sharing : ....
Indians bring their whole village to America: Ann Coulter says everyone knows Indians and Chinese openly cheat
The Indians ...the H-1B workers come in and then they bring their elderly parents so they can instantly go on social security. They can bring the whole village in who you’ll be paying for, America,"
...d there are photos of them crawling out of windows and passing answers to someone. "America is traditionally a high-trust society," Ann Coulter said, adding that when someone shows the high score of .... the odds are that they are probably cheating.
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I am continuing my comments with few posts obviously some long over time. Unable to be frequent on BRF due to other competing issues etc.
I find it pretty amusing that many view orange monkey as the most divisive figure.
Actually it is both parties across the spectrum. It is why I simply
at some here who love to troll ornage monkey when they themsleves are the biggets trolls.
I find it extremely nauseating that these posters dont see thru the whole glass ceiling.
Education/higher education/professional skills is not the criteria to set the bar . It is common sense which is pretty uncommon sadly.
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The approach to racism is different between the parties involved in the land of milk and honey. Both hate but do lip service to heal the wounds.
elephants -- well open and abusive. Not much diplomacy or willingness to engage with others. They live in their own shell/world. Not much to talk about.
democrats - for all their own rhetroic. they pay lip service and enagage in tokenism without doing much ground work. they live in make believe world.
They are racially insensitive mostly- lot of grandstanding. They create policies which inadvertenlty fuels more "structural" racism which is more damaging than elephants blunt open racism.
dumborats promote and worsen racial divide by their rhetoric- cause "reverse" racism . Instaed of healing wounds- they burst it more open.
IOW they dont allow RACIAL wounds to heal. They use it as a stick to beat the elephants and win elections.
Mostly the immigrants and "non-safed" log go with democrats because of this tokenism. Historically the immigrtaion bill of democrats is said to be the much "love" for this .
Many posters here dont know that demcrats brought this bill to bring in whites from europe to america. they thought that euopeans devatstated by world wars would come to america. The democrtas at that time JFK actually campaiahgned on these. Later post his assasination the next democrtaic incumbent passed the bill. many from both poarties actually did n ot want this bill. BUt JFK and other democrtas in favor of the bill managed to convince them that only whites will come from europe.
But in reality democrats are simply scums who prey on immigrants insecurities and worsen the existing damaged realtions between various communities in america.
democrats emphasie racial injustice in a unjust way . This adds fuel to worsening racial relations.
They incorrectly characterise social injustices in their own way and destroy healing.
They create hurdles in law and order, are weak on ceratin sections, harsh elsewhere based on their "perceived" social injustices. This creates a mosaic pattern of varying social heirharchies with differing pecking orders withn their system.
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For all posters please remember
both elephants donkey are simply christians - many are good and excellent people no doubt .
elephants are conservative because of their stance on prolife/abortion etc .
donkeys are liberal wrt prolife/abortion etc .
Both profess to be true christians and hate "others" with differing approaches.
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Sanatanis are hated by both sides. donkeys indulge in tokensim- they make sure the sanatani is simply a good human being MINUS sanatani BADGE. They dont do this to muslims or christians. They refuse to BACK a true sanatani who is open about his culture/religion.
donkeys have the most hatred- they are everywhere in universities media and many other places denying the respect to sanatanis to dipslay their culture much more thna elephants. They actively denigrate the sanatanis and mock them.
Elephants are little better - they respect talented persons - of course and at times show their "bigotery" and "hate". All in all they do also support much more strongly than democrats on sanatanis. This is just sort of a spectrum within their world.
I find it pretty amusing that many view orange monkey as the most divisive figure.
Actually it is both parties across the spectrum. It is why I simply
I find it extremely nauseating that these posters dont see thru the whole glass ceiling.
Education/higher education/professional skills is not the criteria to set the bar . It is common sense which is pretty uncommon sadly.
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The approach to racism is different between the parties involved in the land of milk and honey. Both hate but do lip service to heal the wounds.
elephants -- well open and abusive. Not much diplomacy or willingness to engage with others. They live in their own shell/world. Not much to talk about.
democrats - for all their own rhetroic. they pay lip service and enagage in tokenism without doing much ground work. they live in make believe world.
They are racially insensitive mostly- lot of grandstanding. They create policies which inadvertenlty fuels more "structural" racism which is more damaging than elephants blunt open racism.
dumborats promote and worsen racial divide by their rhetoric- cause "reverse" racism . Instaed of healing wounds- they burst it more open.
IOW they dont allow RACIAL wounds to heal. They use it as a stick to beat the elephants and win elections.
Mostly the immigrants and "non-safed" log go with democrats because of this tokenism. Historically the immigrtaion bill of democrats is said to be the much "love" for this .
But in reality democrats are simply scums who prey on immigrants insecurities and worsen the existing damaged realtions between various communities in america.
democrats emphasie racial injustice in a unjust way . This adds fuel to worsening racial relations.
They incorrectly characterise social injustices in their own way and destroy healing.
They create hurdles in law and order, are weak on ceratin sections, harsh elsewhere based on their "perceived" social injustices. This creates a mosaic pattern of varying social heirharchies with differing pecking orders withn their system.
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For all posters please remember
both elephants donkey are simply christians - many are good and excellent people no doubt .
elephants are conservative because of their stance on prolife/abortion etc .
donkeys are liberal wrt prolife/abortion etc .
Both profess to be true christians and hate "others" with differing approaches.
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Sanatanis are hated by both sides. donkeys indulge in tokensim- they make sure the sanatani is simply a good human being MINUS sanatani BADGE. They dont do this to muslims or christians. They refuse to BACK a true sanatani who is open about his culture/religion.
donkeys have the most hatred- they are everywhere in universities media and many other places denying the respect to sanatanis to dipslay their culture much more thna elephants. They actively denigrate the sanatanis and mock them.
Elephants are little better - they respect talented persons - of course and at times show their "bigotery" and "hate". All in all they do also support much more strongly than democrats on sanatanis. This is just sort of a spectrum within their world.
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@krisna gaaru, great post.
I will take a xtian fundamentalist over an Islamaoist fundamentalist, a xtian moderate over an Islamaoist moderate, a xtian liberal over an Islamaoist liberal—any day.
I will take a xtian fundamentalist over an Islamaoist fundamentalist, a xtian moderate over an Islamaoist moderate, a xtian liberal over an Islamaoist liberal—any day.
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And there are some who will choose a Christian fundamentalist over a Muslim liberal.
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Yes, that too. I gave a poset. The relationship "choose over" is reflexive, transitive, and anti-symmetric.sanjaykumar wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 05:54 And there are some who will choose a Christian fundamentalist over a Muslim liberal.
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https://www.npr.org/2015/10/03/44533983 ... ration-act
The Immigration and Nationality Act, signed at the foot of the Statue of Liberty on Oct. 3, 1965, abolished the national origin quota system, under which immigrants were chosen on the basis of their race and ancestry. The quotas set aside tens of thousands of visas each year for immigrants from Northern and Western Europe, while many countries in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East were allocated barely 100 slots each. It was a blatantly discriminatory system.
Under the new law, immigrants were to be selected on the basis of their family connections in the United States and the skills and training they could offer, with all nationalities treated more or less equally.
The original version of the bill, introduced in the Senate by Philip Hart (D-Mich.) and in the House by Emanuel Celler (D-N.Y.), gave immigration preference to people whose skills and training would be "especially advantageous" to the United States.
The conservatives had an ally in Rep. Michael Feighan (D-Ohio), the famously ornery chairman of the House Immigration subcommittee. Feighan refused even to hold hearings on the immigration reform bill and relented only after the president gave him the famous "Johnson treatment" when he took Feighan to Ohio with him on Air Force One.
In the end, Feighan agreed to support the reform proposal, but he insisted on a key change. Rather than giving preference to those immigrants whose skills were "especially advantageous" to the United States, Feighan insisted on prioritizing those immigrants who already had relatives in the United States, with a new preference category for adult brothers and sisters of naturalized U.S. citizens.
In justifying the change, Feighan told his conservative allies that a family unification preference would favor those nationalities already represented in the U.S. population, meaning Europeans.
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https://x.com/aravind/status/1989165068429451748

IMO, in simple terms, Pak has been supplied with advanced tech by the US, or is being directly helped by the US to mess with navigational guidance systems that use GPS.
It is using these devices to mess with GPS to warn India that it can't give a military response, while also carrying out the terror attacks.
"It is now telling India we will do terror attacks and we know you want to respond militarily. But, if you try, we can mess with your planes, ships, and missiles. Do what you can."
If my assumptions are true, this is serious for India because US is now again using Pak to arm twist India. No wonder Trump made some statements like 'i don't want to cause trouble for Modi', 'India will do a good trade deal soon', and his commerce secretary said 'India will apologize to the US and do the trade deal.'
This also means India may not do OpSindoor 2.0 now. Or delay any kinetic action on Pakistan until it can sort out these GPS issues. And Pak may be emboldened to carry out another big terror attack soon.
If the US is helping Pak in messing with India's navigation while Pak tries terror attacks, then I think India needs to send all US military personnel, planes, and equipment out ASAP. Enough of having them in India for "training."
India issues a NOTAM warning aircraft of GPS interference/loss around air traffic routes within its airspace near Mumbai, this follows reports of similar interreference observed around New Delhi
Valid: 13-17 November 2025
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^^^ Please do a quick google news search on GPS interference. Not to downplay the danger, It is happening world over, Europe and ME. This can also be the act of other trans national players. Let’s not give TSP overt credits for this.
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Agreed. The existing US-Indian (many in US congress) donkeys toe the line of CIA-Pentagon etc and they aren't exactly on the Sanatani side of things. Some like pramila are off their rockers most of the times. The majority of the elephants you know their position clearly and you can deal with them appropriately. US foreign policy is strictly driven by the deep state operatives and they use both sides to further their agenda. Sometimes it is confusing with the donkey/elephant line of thinking but make no mistake these deep state minions ultimately get to rule the US and the world. They have 300 T (around 200T looted from India) in assets globally to make it happen. So many of them are embedded in critical depts/functions which DJT is trying to axe. The paki co-opting by DJT is a great example of deep state operatives working behind the scenes.
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FYI: There is a discussion in <in this thread>vijayk wrote: ↑14 Nov 2025 22:02 https://x.com/aravind/status/1989165068429451748
IMO, in simple terms, Pak has been supplied with advanced tech by the US, or is being directly helped by the US to mess with navigational guidance systems that use GPS.
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India is considering offering visas on arrival to medical patients from the US and Europe:( Piyush Goyal.)
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India’s External Affairs Minister @DrSJaishankar yesterday chaired the Consul Generals Conference in New York, attended by IndianEmbassyUS , and all other consuls to review India’s bilateral ties and support for diaspora activities. Dr. Jaishankar appreciated the commitment and efforts of Indian Embassy and Consulates to strengthening the India-US partnership.
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A historic first!
One of the largest and the world’s fastest growing LPG market opens up to the United States.
One of the largest and the world’s fastest growing LPG market opens up to the United States.
In our endeavour to provide secure affordable supplies of LPG to the people of India, we have been diversifying our LPG sourcing.
In a significant development, Indian PSU oil companies have successfully concluded a 1 year deal for imports of around 2.2 MTPA LPG, close to 10% of our annual imports - for the contract year 2026, to be sourced from the US Gulf Coast- the first structured contract of US LPG for the Indian market.
This purchase is based on using Mount Belvieu as the benchmark for LPG purchases and a team of our officials from @IndianOilcl, @BPCLimited & @HPCL had visited the US and engaged in discussions with major US producers over the last few months, which have been concluded now.
Under the leadership of PM Ji, our PSU oil companies have been providing LPG at the lowest global prices to all our mothers and sisters. Even as global prices soared by over 60% last year, Modi Ji ensured that our Ujjwala consumers continued to receive LPG cylinder at just ₹500-550 whereas the actual cost of the cylinder was over ₹1100. Government of India incurred the cost of over ₹40000 crores last year in order to ensure our mother
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U.S. Representatives Ami Bera,the longest-serving Indian American Member of Congress, and Joe Wilson introduced a bipartisan resolution recognizing the strategic value of the historical partnership between the United States and India.
The resolution underscores decades of deepening cooperation between two of the world’s largest democracies across critical sectors including defense, technology, trade, counterterrorism, and education. It also highlights India’s vital role in promoting regional stability, economic growth, and a free and open Indo-Pacific.

The resolution underscores decades of deepening cooperation between two of the world’s largest democracies across critical sectors including defense, technology, trade, counterterrorism, and education. It also highlights India’s vital role in promoting regional stability, economic growth, and a free and open Indo-Pacific.
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As Hinduphobia peaks in the US, Christian and Islamist groups push new campaign against Hindus: How NY State Council of Churches and IAMC have joined forces to target Hindus
https://www.opindia.com/2025/11/as-hind ... et-hindus/
A Christian nationalist church group and the Islamist outfit IAMC have teamed up to host anti-Hindu seminars in the US, accusing Hindus of “weaponizing” their faith even as attacks on the community rise. Hindu groups have slammed the events as an organised effort to vilify Hindu Americans and mainstream Hinduphobia. This collaboration comes amid IAMC’s long record of anti-Hindu propaganda in the US.
The events titled “The Weaponization of Hinduism in Northern Carolina and India and the Relationships to Global Religious Nationalisms” are being co-organised by the Islamist group IAMC. The additional sponsorship for these anti-Hindu events comes from the White Christian Nationalisms Task Force of the California-Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church.
As per the promotional material of the scheduled events, the seminars will be held at several locations, including the United Methodist churches in Roseville, Alameda, and Santa Rosa; First Church Berkeley (United Church of Christ). One of the seminars will also be held at a Sikh Gurudwara Sahib in San Jose.
Suhag Shukla, the Executive Director of the HAF, said, “The New York State Council of Churches is joining a Muslim group to tour California—not to promote solidarity & peace—but to target peaceful Hindu Californians. This isn’t interfaith solidarity, this is an ambush. @GovKathyHochul, your NY Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives is funding NYCOC when anti-Hindu hate is peaking. How is this ok?”
https://www.opindia.com/2025/11/as-hind ... et-hindus/
A Christian nationalist church group and the Islamist outfit IAMC have teamed up to host anti-Hindu seminars in the US, accusing Hindus of “weaponizing” their faith even as attacks on the community rise. Hindu groups have slammed the events as an organised effort to vilify Hindu Americans and mainstream Hinduphobia. This collaboration comes amid IAMC’s long record of anti-Hindu propaganda in the US.
The events titled “The Weaponization of Hinduism in Northern Carolina and India and the Relationships to Global Religious Nationalisms” are being co-organised by the Islamist group IAMC. The additional sponsorship for these anti-Hindu events comes from the White Christian Nationalisms Task Force of the California-Nevada Conference of the United Methodist Church.
As per the promotional material of the scheduled events, the seminars will be held at several locations, including the United Methodist churches in Roseville, Alameda, and Santa Rosa; First Church Berkeley (United Church of Christ). One of the seminars will also be held at a Sikh Gurudwara Sahib in San Jose.
Suhag Shukla, the Executive Director of the HAF, said, “The New York State Council of Churches is joining a Muslim group to tour California—not to promote solidarity & peace—but to target peaceful Hindu Californians. This isn’t interfaith solidarity, this is an ambush. @GovKathyHochul, your NY Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives is funding NYCOC when anti-Hindu hate is peaking. How is this ok?”
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X-Posting: Indian Economy News & Discussion - Nov 27 2017
Mukesh.Kumar wrote: ↑18 Nov 2025 21:38 India's US exports jump despite 50% tariffs as trade tensions ease PeePeeSee Link
Apparently, it's a month-on-month growth and remains to be seen firstly, if the growth is at net exports level, and if so, which sectors are driving the growth. But for the moment, this is a spot of good news.
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Big win for India: US deports Anmol Bishnoi; key accused in Baba Siddique murder case
NEW DELHI: In a big diplomatic win for India, Anmol Bishnoi, a key accused in the Baba Siddique murder case has been deported from the United States and is scheduled to arrive in India on Wednesday, news agency PTI reported citing officials.
This comes a year after the Mumbai police initiated the process for Anmol's extradition, a suspect in the killing of NCP leader and former minister Baba Siddique in October 2024. Bishnoi is also wanted in a case related to firing on Bollywood star Salman Khan's residence in April last year.
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-Says Trump sitting alongside Saudi Crown Prince MBS..I stopped 8 wars...India, Pakistan",
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x post:
U.S. Energy Secretary and Saudi Arabia's Energy Minister Announce Deal on Civil Nuclear Cooperation
—U.S. Secretary of Energy Chris Wright and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s Minister of Energy Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman Al Saud today signed a Joint Declaration on the Completion of Negotiations on Civil Nuclear Cooperation.
U.S. Energy Secretary and Saudi Arabia's Energy Minister Announce Deal on Civil Nuclear Cooperation
—U.S. Secretary of Energy Chris Wright and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia’s Minister of Energy Prince Abdulaziz bin Salman Al Saud today signed a Joint Declaration on the Completion of Negotiations on Civil Nuclear Cooperation.
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Now Saudi Arabia has been designated as a major non- NATO ally of the US, which Pakistan already is.
-US has now signed a strategic defence agreement with Saudi Arabia.
-Separately Pakistan and Saudis have signed a defence pact.
-Rubio has said the US is exploring a stronger strategic partnership with Pakistan.
These are coordinated moves.
This explains Trump’s lionising of Asim Munir and his attempt to meddle in India- Pak relations in Pakistan’s favour.
The objective seems to be to protect Pakistan’s flank with India as much as possible so that it can play its designated regional role.
(Also see above, US. has signed nuclear treaty with SA)
-US has now signed a strategic defence agreement with Saudi Arabia.
-Separately Pakistan and Saudis have signed a defence pact.
-Rubio has said the US is exploring a stronger strategic partnership with Pakistan.
These are coordinated moves.
This explains Trump’s lionising of Asim Munir and his attempt to meddle in India- Pak relations in Pakistan’s favour.
The objective seems to be to protect Pakistan’s flank with India as much as possible so that it can play its designated regional role.
(Also see above, US. has signed nuclear treaty with SA)
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How many $billions will the US, Saudi and US-controlled IMF, World Bank, etc., have to provide to keep Pakistan afloat?
What is the most efficient way for India to increase the costs to these countries?
What happens to Saudi, Pakistan relations with China?
What is the most efficient way for India to increase the costs to these countries?
What happens to Saudi, Pakistan relations with China?
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^^^
Trump claims he pulled in ‘$18 TRILLION in 9 months’ to rebuild American factories.
‘4 years of Biden’ landed only ‘$1 TRILLION’ in foreign investment for US economy — Trump at Saudi forum in Washington
But how much of that will ever materialize?
‘4 years of Biden’ landed only ‘$1 TRILLION’ in foreign investment for US economy — Trump at Saudi forum in Washington
But how much of that will ever materialize?
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Racists are now openly targeting Indian Americans
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/16/us/i ... m-maga-cec
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/11/16/us/i ... m-maga-cec
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@Haresh ji, Manjushri Kulkarni, referred to in the above article, was part of the South Asia Network (SAN). Guess who dominates SAN?!!! Pakistanis and BDs. Here is one blog post at SAN.
INDIA: Ignorance to Intolerance Regarding Muslims in the Country
April 1, 2022, by South Asian Network
BY CYNTHIA CHOCKALINGAM, CIVIL RIGHTS UNIT INTERN AT SAN
https://southasiannetwork.org/india-ign ... e-country/
They support Palestine as well. They made a press release in October 2023 calling on the state of Israel to "stop genocide" in Gaza.
(Added later)
AAPI also made a statement criticising the police crackdown on anti-Israel Palestine Supporting Protesters at University campuses across the US.
INDIA: Ignorance to Intolerance Regarding Muslims in the Country
April 1, 2022, by South Asian Network
BY CYNTHIA CHOCKALINGAM, CIVIL RIGHTS UNIT INTERN AT SAN
https://southasiannetwork.org/india-ign ... e-country/
They support Palestine as well. They made a press release in October 2023 calling on the state of Israel to "stop genocide" in Gaza.
(Added later)
AAPI also made a statement criticising the police crackdown on anti-Israel Palestine Supporting Protesters at University campuses across the US.
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Excellent points.Vayutuvan wrote: ↑20 Nov 2025 06:40 @Haresh ji, Manjushri Kulkarni, referred to in the above article, was part of the South Asia Network (SAN). Guess who dominates SAN?!!! Pakistanis and BDs. Here is one blog post at SAN.
INDIA: Ignorance to Intolerance Regarding Muslims in the Country
April 1, 2022, by South Asian Network
BY CYNTHIA CHOCKALINGAM, CIVIL RIGHTS UNIT INTERN AT SAN
https://southasiannetwork.org/india-ign ... e-country/
They support Palestine as well. They made a press release in October 2023 calling on the state of Israel to "stop genocide" in Gaza.
(Added later)
AAPI also made a statement criticising the police crackdown on anti-Israel Palestine Supporting Protesters at University campuses across the US.
Here is Professor Vamsee Juluri's incisive take on this much-forwarded CNN article, whose entire thrust is that Indian Americans should know it is ONLY the Republican far right targeting us, so we'd better be good Dhimmicrats if we know what's good for us.
My own radar went up when I saw CSOH, run by an extremely lowlife anti-Hindu hackademic named Rohit Chopra, being heavily quoted in the article.
Unlike Rutgers University's NCRI, which actually performs credible research, this CSOH is an utter tool of the Left-Islamist axis in US politics.
In their report on hate against Indian Americans, they go out of their way to state that there is "no such thing as Hinduphobia", and that anyone using the term Hinduphobia is a Hindutva majoritarian fascist etc... the EXACT same line of anti-Hindu gaslighting employed by IAMC, "Hindus for Human Rights", and other such Pakistani mouthpieces in the United States.
The entire tone & tenor of the CNN article is to berate Indian Americans for being too invested in their Hindu identities and demand that we get in line with the South Asian Solidarity Scumdani brigade instead.
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Rudradev wrote: ↑20 Nov 2025 08:36Excellent points.Vayutuvan wrote: ↑20 Nov 2025 06:40 @Haresh ji, Manjushri Kulkarni, referred to in the above article, was part of the South Asia Network (SAN). Guess who dominates SAN?!!! Pakistanis and BDs. Here is one blog post at SAN.
INDIA: Ignorance to Intolerance Regarding Muslims in the Country
April 1, 2022, by South Asian Network
BY CYNTHIA CHOCKALINGAM, CIVIL RIGHTS UNIT INTERN AT SAN
https://southasiannetwork.org/india-ign ... e-country/
They support Palestine as well. They made a press release in October 2023 calling on the state of Israel to "stop genocide" in Gaza.
(Added later)
AAPI also made a statement criticising the police crackdown on anti-Israel Palestine Supporting Protesters at University campuses across the US.
Here is Professor Vamsee Juluri's incisive take on this much-forwarded CNN article, whose entire thrust is that Indian Americans should know it is ONLY the Republican far right targeting us, so we'd better be good Dhimmicrats if we know what's good for us.
My own radar went up when I saw CSOH, run by an extremely lowlife anti-Hindu hackademic named Rohit Chopra, being heavily quoted in the article.
Unlike Rutgers University's NCRI, which actually performs credible research, this CSOH is an utter tool of the Left-Islamist axis in US politics.
In their report on hate against Indian Americans, they go out of their way to state that there is "no such thing as Hinduphobia", and that anyone using the term Hinduphobia is a Hindutva majoritarian fascist etc... the EXACT same line of anti-Hindu gaslighting employed by IAMC, "Hindus for Human Rights", and other such Pakistani mouthpieces in the United States.
The entire tone & tenor of the CNN article is to berate Indian Americans for being too invested in their Hindu identities and demand that we get in line with the South Asian Solidarity Scumdani brigade instead.
Rudradev ji,
But, these very same scum are OK with defining islamophobia and jihadis, kattar welfare wadis, hostile sharia propelled, and non integrating illegal migrants, in a way that whitewashes and normalizes their socio-religious world view and assert that it's politically acceptable for these entitled "refugees" to identify as very distinct identity focussed parasites that leech off their non namazi hosts.
There are serious proposals that have reached the UN and many other national bodies with strident demands for banning "islamophobia" in all its manifestations, vehemently pushed by islamic "nations"
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Chetak ji,
Muslim: I hate the way you kafirs live your lives, it is blasphemous to me and I want to kill you.
Also Muslim: I am poor, I am misunderstood, I am hated and persecuted just for being a Muslim, Islam is a very tolerant religion that doesn't teach violence, everybody blames us for terrorism boo hoo hoo.
White Liberals are suckers for this duality because it both gives them an opportunity to feel like members of a superior and enlightened culture, and also presents them with the challenge of 'saving' these benighted savages and winning moral gratification while still functioning within postmodern parameters of cultural relativism. Muslims have honed the ability to play both these roles to a fine art, and White Liberals fall for it every time.
Meanwhile Indians (mostly Hindus) in the US? "We come from a 7000 year old culture that invented mathematics, surgery, and yoga! We are the richest community, the best educated community, the community of CEOs and Doctors and Spelling-Bee Champs and STEM Geniuses! We have the biggest houses in the nicest neighbourhoods and the snazziest cars in town! We pile into those cars wearing expensive clothes and glittering accessories, and blast Bollywood music as we drive to our large impressive festivals!"
In short, we embody every marker of White success (which White Liberals deplore and are embarrassed by, and White Conservative racists are insanely jealous of) except for the fact of being White. Are we surprised at the level of resentment? Is it unexpected that White Liberals now embrace Colonial-era stereotypes about the "Caste System" and "white supremacy" to deal with the cognitive dissonance of suppressed racism we bring out in them?
I had this distinct feeling when visiting the BAPS mandir in New Jersey last year (one of many BAPS mandirs that have been coming up in several parts of the US). The sheer wealth and magnificent opulence on display were staggering-- you could see Americans of all stripes coming there as tourists to gawk at it open-mouthed. I knew in the back of my mind that things were going to get bad.
Deng Xiaoping once said "bide your time and hide your strength". Words that Hindu Americans should have been careful to live by-- quietly organizing and marshalling our collective resources, remaining resolutely united amongst ourselves while keeping a low profile in front of outsiders. Instead we made a garish display of our economic success without having any of the political strength required to defend it.
Muslim: I hate the way you kafirs live your lives, it is blasphemous to me and I want to kill you.
Also Muslim: I am poor, I am misunderstood, I am hated and persecuted just for being a Muslim, Islam is a very tolerant religion that doesn't teach violence, everybody blames us for terrorism boo hoo hoo.
White Liberals are suckers for this duality because it both gives them an opportunity to feel like members of a superior and enlightened culture, and also presents them with the challenge of 'saving' these benighted savages and winning moral gratification while still functioning within postmodern parameters of cultural relativism. Muslims have honed the ability to play both these roles to a fine art, and White Liberals fall for it every time.
Meanwhile Indians (mostly Hindus) in the US? "We come from a 7000 year old culture that invented mathematics, surgery, and yoga! We are the richest community, the best educated community, the community of CEOs and Doctors and Spelling-Bee Champs and STEM Geniuses! We have the biggest houses in the nicest neighbourhoods and the snazziest cars in town! We pile into those cars wearing expensive clothes and glittering accessories, and blast Bollywood music as we drive to our large impressive festivals!"
In short, we embody every marker of White success (which White Liberals deplore and are embarrassed by, and White Conservative racists are insanely jealous of) except for the fact of being White. Are we surprised at the level of resentment? Is it unexpected that White Liberals now embrace Colonial-era stereotypes about the "Caste System" and "white supremacy" to deal with the cognitive dissonance of suppressed racism we bring out in them?
I had this distinct feeling when visiting the BAPS mandir in New Jersey last year (one of many BAPS mandirs that have been coming up in several parts of the US). The sheer wealth and magnificent opulence on display were staggering-- you could see Americans of all stripes coming there as tourists to gawk at it open-mouthed. I knew in the back of my mind that things were going to get bad.
Deng Xiaoping once said "bide your time and hide your strength". Words that Hindu Americans should have been careful to live by-- quietly organizing and marshalling our collective resources, remaining resolutely united amongst ourselves while keeping a low profile in front of outsiders. Instead we made a garish display of our economic success without having any of the political strength required to defend it.
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Meanwhile: The Trump administration has approved the sale of Javelin missiles to India. These US-made missiles can be used for anti-tank warfare and to shoot down low-flying aircraft.

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@sankrant
Now that CAIR has been designated a terrorist group by Texas, worth remembering that Truschke is one of their assets.

@sankrant
Now that CAIR has been designated a terrorist group by Texas, worth remembering that Truschke is one of their assets.
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Reaction to Trump's cozying up people like Munir and other such people:
- The Washington Post unleashes a scathing takedown of Trump after he smeared their murdered journalist Khashoggi during a "playdate with the brutal Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia."
- The Washington Post unleashes a scathing takedown of Trump after he smeared their murdered journalist Khashoggi during a "playdate with the brutal Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia."
The United States government often advances its national interests by working with nasty people, and Saudi Arabian Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is one of the nastiest," the paper's editorial board wrote. "It’s one thing, however regrettable, to deal reluctantly with him. President Donald Trump’s performance at the White House Tuesday was something else entirely: weak, crass and of no strategic benefit to America."
The opinion piece was entitled "things happen," a direct quote from Trump's Oval Office meeting yesterday with MBS. When asked about the assassination — in which Khashoggi was murdered and dismembered with a bone saw — Trump dismissively said that "things happen" and that Khashoggi was an "extremely controversial" man who a "lot of people didn't like."
Trump falsely claimed that MBS "knew nothing about that," when in fact he ordered the killing. The president also chided a reporter for trying to "embarrass our guests by asking a question." The disgraceful remarks were a major PR boon to MBS and are rendered all the more shameful by the fact that Khashoggi was a U.S. resident.
"These distortions dishonor Khashoggi’s legacy, stand at odds with the facts and are beneath the office of the president," the Post's editorial board wrote. They explained that Khashoggi's reporting for their outlet allowed him to stand strong against "the Saudi regime’s repressiveness at home and recklessness abroad."
"The reality is that while Trump advocates peace through strength, he showed nothing but debility," they wrote. "No doubt other dictators took note. Legitimizing and defending Mohammed this way will embolden him and his ilk to mistreat not just journalists but any Americans — knowing that they’ll probably face no real consequences."
The board slammed Trump for greeting MBS "cost-free with an honor guard of black horses, herald trumpeters and fighter jets."
"Forgetting Mohammed’s brutality and Khashoggi’s warnings is a choice, and Trump made the wrong one," they concluded.
At the root of all of this horror is, as usual, Trump's insatiable greed. He doesn't want to upset bin Salman because Saudi Arabia has proven to be an incredibly lucrative personal partner for his family. The Saudis poured $2 billion into Jared Kushner's firm — and that's just one of the deals that we know about. Until a full forensic investigation is undertaken, there's no telling how much the Trumps have made by buddying up to a murderous tyrant.
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^^^WSJ AritclePakistan’s Army Chief, Trump’s ‘Favorite Field Marshal,’ Cements Power
Also: <video>Trump is being Trump. He has had to repeat this more than 60 times and yet people don’t believe him about US role in India-Pakistan ceasefire. Trump Administration will have to realise that wearing blinkers towards Pak sponsored terror will embolden them to backstab US one day.The most powerful man in Pakistan is having a stellar year.
Pakistan army chief Asim Munir put up a strong show in a short conflict with India earlier this year—becoming only the second army officer in Pakistan to earn the title of field marshal—and successfully reset ties with U.S. President Trump, who hosted Munir at the White House in June and has called the general his “favorite field marshal.”
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uddu wrote: ↑20 Nov 2025 13:54 https://x.com/sankrant/status/1991238736357781903
@sankrant
Now that CAIR has been designated a terrorist group by Texas, worth remembering that Truschke is one of their assets.
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uddu ji,
so was papooze
Congress leader Rahul Gandhi’s repeated engagements in the United States including interactions with individuals and organisations linked to controversial Islamist networks have once again come under scrutiny. His June 2023 US tour, where he was seen sharing platforms with activists and lawmakers associated with groups such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), has raised questions about the ideological ecosystem he is choosing to align with.