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[SRajesh]

Guptaji
There is 180 degree change in both Trump and US policy makers vi-a-vis Abrhamics.
US is now openly courting the Last Branch of A.
They are rooting for the Xtians all over and want to make serious amends and colloborate with the Ropers.
The Children of Zion are being completely sidelined.
All I see is the numbers game and he who controls resources and tech will rule for another 3/4 decades.
That means to sideline Isreal and throw us under the bus. Rus is noitice.
China is being wooed with a possible G2 and the East.
I maybe be overstating but this is what it is.

[SRajesh]

I feel that US and Xtians as whoile have realised that Clash of Civilisations or Culture or whatever you want to call it is too devastatibng and they are not ready to face the Unwashed yet.
So what option other than to call for a Truce until they have eliminated all others i.e., Hindus/Buddhist/Animist.

[SRajesh]

On CNN they are openly discussing about Netanyahu being sidelined in the decision making as he is not willing to sign on the Two State plan.
Who knows if there will be a Genz uprising in Isreal as well!!

[uddu]

On CNN they are ope only discuss about Netanyahu being sidelined in the decision making as he is not willing to sign on the Two State plan.
Who knows if there will be a Genz uprising in Isreal as well!!

There was regime change operations earlier in Israel as well under the earlier Biden regime. Cunning Netanyahu outwitted them and came back. Could happen again if Trump gives the green light.

[SRajesh]

Here we go:
Trump wants to sell F35 to KSA.
KSA wants :
1. Protection from Isreal especially Nuclear Umbrella.
2. Mining Uranium and use it both for local civil use and sell it but to whom. I dnot know how much and how far the SMR's are going to go. ( Brits have decided to reactivate old Nuclear Power Plant with few SMR's built). I am sure they wont sell it to India but Jihadis hmm that will be Crossing the Rubicon I suppose both for them and to us.
3. AI and advanced chip making and usage.
4. A Defence pact a la Nato with the Sunni world or atleast with KSA/UAE. That may have a tenous link to our jihadi neighbour (however tenous that is given Unkil already has a treat in place with the jihadis that may become a headache).
5. A neo Axis of evil Iran/Rus/Chin and India. For the Gulf cutting out Rus Juice and by corollary teaching India not to venture into refined Juice marketing.
6. A free Hand for proselytizing both for the Johnny come lately Abrahamics especially a new treaty of Torsedillas West for Rolers and East for the Ropers leaving Africa. Currently broadly speaking its Ropers to the north of Equatorial Rain Forest and Rolers to the South. probably that may become more formal.
What US wants :
1. West Free of Ropers terror.
2. Stop illegal immigration.
3. Cut RUS to three parts : A Western Orthodox Rus, A Central Siberian Rus with all the mineral wealth and ready for Unwashed to be pushed into ( a modern slave market), A eastern indigenous Rus for hardy Proselyzers to harvest souls. This division is bnot mine. This is old Unkil plans starting from Kissinger era up until John Bolton time
4. China cut down and fully soul saved. (look what has happened to South Korea and Japan check out the number of Rolers there)
5. India forever snubbed out.(sacrificed to the Green hordes )
6. Rolers and Ropers left to run the world as the ultimate G2

[uddu]

https://x.com/MelanieLatest/status/1990710396408226176
@MelanieLatest
In 2000, two Israeli reservists were lynched by a frenzied Palestinian Arab mob in Ramallah. They were slaughtered and mutilated. Their intestines were ripped out and thrown to the screaming mob. One of the murderers held up his bloody hands in jubilation. That’s the meaning of the red hands held up by these Oxford students. The Oxford Union now celebrates the psychotic murder of Jews.


https://x.com/JakeWSimons/status/1990331430048583846
@JakeWSimons
These people managed to stop a former Israeli leader from addressing the formerly distinguished Oxford Union.

[A_Gupta]

The Times of Israel reports:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog- ... r-22-2025/
PM’s office says five senior Hamas officials killed in Gaza strikes over ceasefire violations
Hamas threatens to end Gaza ceasefire over what it calls Israeli violations

Also:

After a 24-hour pursuit, the military says it killed or captured all 17 Palestinian terror operatives who attempted to flee from a Hamas tunnel in an IDF-held area in the southern Gaza Strip yesterday.

On Friday, 17 operatives emerged from a tunnel in eastern Rafah — an area where dozens of Hamas members are thought to be holed up underground — and attempted to flee back to Hamas-held areas of the Strip.

According to the IDF, on Friday, six were killed in airstrikes shortly after coming out of the tunnel, and five were captured by troops of the Nahal Brigade.

Today, Nahal soldiers opened fire and killed five of the operatives in two separate incidents, and a short while ago, detained the final suspect, the IDF says.

The six detained operatives were handed over to the Shin Bet for further questioning, the military adds.

[chetak]

jeremy bowen is just a tip of the iceberg.

there are plenty of crooks inside this terror-broadcast network.







the bbc is an organisation promoting anti semitism, distorting facts, censoring truth and shamefully promoting hamas propaganda.

[uddu]

Reporting by Turkish Media. Our Soldiers in Mahindra armored vehicles operating under UN Flag.
US and Israel oppose extension of UNIFIL mission in Lebanon
The future of the UN peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon is uncertain, as the US and Israel push back against extending UNIFIL’s mandate beyond next year. But critics warn ending the mission could risk renewed conflict. Our correspondent Randolph Nogel reports.

[ricky_v]

there should be more focus on the new sort of deals being hammered out in the middle east and the players who are being onboarded, this is one area where very little conversation has happened which is a mistake, the wider middle east is more interlinked with india than many people would consider, actions there must be tracked

https://asiatimes.com/2025/11/us-quietl ... -together/

In recent months, Pakistan’s engagement—both overt and discreet—with Israel has intensified in unprecedented ways. A pattern of public meetings, symbolic political gestures and coordinated regional diplomacy suggests the geopolitical landscape is shifting.

These developments align closely with Washington’s broader Middle Eastern strategy, particularly the quiet but persistent push toward an expanded “Abraham Accords 2.0.”

A more nuanced reading reveals that there are actually three key players shaping this dynamic—Pakistan, Israel and the United States—with Washington strategically nudging Islamabad toward eventual recognition of Israel while balancing its own regional and domestic imperatives.

The clearest early signs of this emerging policy shift surfaced in November 2025 through a series of unusually visible interactions between Pakistani officials and Israeli-linked figures.

On November 4, 2025, at the World Travel Market Fair in London, Michael Izhakov, the director general of Israeli Tourism, held a public and widely photographed exchange with Sardar Yasir Ilyas Khan, an advisor to Pakistan’s prime minister.

For two countries without diplomatic relations, the openness of this interaction was remarkable and signalled a willingness on both sides to normalize previously unthinkable optics.

A second signal emerged during Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif’s visit to New York for the UN General Assembly in late September 2025, when diplomatic circles in New York reported a quiet interaction between Sharif and Daniel Rosen, the president of the American Jewish Congress.

The summit unfolded against a backdrop of extraordinary global pressure on Israel. There was unprecedented international public outcry against Israel’s actions in Gaza, with several European countries—including France, Spain, Ireland, Norway, and Belgium—moving to formally recognize the State of Palestine.

European governments debated sanctions, arms embargoes and suspension of trade privileges, while mass protests swept across the continent. Activist flotillas, humanitarian missions, and legal challenges targeted Israeli policies, generating a wave of civic mobilization unseen in previous conflicts.

In this highly charged environment, the Sharm el-Sheikh gathering served not just regional optics but the strategic aim of mitigating Israel’s growing global isolation and consolidating a narrative favorable to US-led diplomatic efforts, including monitoring the implementation of the Gaza ceasefire and coordinating humanitarian aid.

In the aftermath of the Sharm el-Sheikh summit, the momentum of this diplomatic pressure began to noticeably cool. Several European countries that had been accelerating toward formal recognition of Palestine slowed their pace, and the wave of coordinated diplomatic moves lost its earlier urgency. This shift was intentional.

It aligned closely with Washington’s objective of stabilizing the post-Gaza environment and preventing a snowball effect of recognitions that could have further isolated Israel. Although recognitions did not cease entirely, the sudden slowdown across Europe highlighted the effectiveness of US intervention in redirecting the international diplomatic narrative and containing fallout for Israel.

This recognition forms part of a broader effort to draw Pakistan closer to US regional objectives, and to integrate Islamabad into a framework that Washington considers essential for managing post-Gaza geopolitics.

In addition to official and back-channel diplomacy, some Pakistani civil society actors have engaged with Israel, signaling an emerging unofficial track of interaction.

In 2025, a 10-member group of journalists, researchers and influencers—including Shabbir Khan, Qaisar Abbas, Sabin Agha and Kaswar Klasra—visited Israel under the auspices of NGO Sharaka, which promotes people-to-people dialogue between Israel and South/South-Asian countries.

The delegation, reportedly the largest of its kind from Pakistan, aimed to gain firsthand experience and challenge prevailing narratives about Israel, although the Pakistani Foreign Office denied any official involvement.

Delegates described the visit as enlightening and emphasized cross-cultural understanding, while domestic journalist bodies such as the Karachi Press Club condemned the trips.

These civil society interactions, although limited and private, complement Pakistan’s broader back-channel engagement and suggest a cautious, exploratory approach to normalizing ties with Israel.

Additionally, a recent constitutional amendment that centralizes authority under Pakistan’s military leadership and grants sweeping immunity to the Chief of Defense Forces has been interpreted by some analysts as preparation for managing potential backlash against controversial foreign policy decisions.

[A_Gupta]

Noor Dahri in his interview with Sonam Mahajan said (Dahri's father was a police official in Sind) that when he joined LeT his father asked him to leave home; when he left the LeT his father protected him from LeT retaliation; but when he moved to the UK and then partnered with Israeli anti-terrorist organizations, his family told him they would kill him on sight.

If feelings run that high, I wonder how Field Marshall Asim Munir is going to manage Pakistan.

[A_Gupta]

BTW, Noor Dahri recommends this article:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/isra ... -lee-smith
Farewell to the Abraham Accords
MBS’s White House visit marked a return to normalcy in the Middle East, and a U.S. pivot toward China
BY
LEE SMITH
NOVEMBER 18, 202

President Trump’s meeting with Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) was a success before the Saudi crown prince set foot in the White House. Despite calls for the Saudis to join the Abraham Accords in exchange for selling them F-35 stealth fighters, Trump wisely saw that pressuring the Saudi prince into a deal whose time passed with the successful U.S. attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be harmful to both Israel and the Saudis.

But by pocketing what will be the first in a series of large checks for advanced American military equipment, Trump cut directly to the heart of the pact of mutual self-interest that has bound the United States and Saudi Arabia together since the Saudi king Abdulaziz met with FDR on the deck of the USS Quincy in 1945. In exchange for effective sovereignty over Saudi oil, the United States would protect the Saudi Kingdom’s territorial sovereignty with military force.

The Quincy Pact has lasted this long because it is clearly in the interest of both countries. Balance sheets don’t lie. The Saudis don’t need to field one of the world’s top battle-tested armies in a global trouble spot, or provide intelligence on terror threats that no other spy service can get, or pull off jaw-dropping covert ops like the beeper plot that detonated Hezbollah’s cadres, or invent life-saving medications, or fuel the world’s third-most inventive tech sector after Silicon Valley and Seoul. Those are the returns that Israel offers on the weapons that the United States sends as a strategic investment. All the Saudis need to do is sip coffee in the lobbies of foreign hotels while America pumps and protects their oil—and pay full sticker price for advanced fighter planes that will require equally expensive maintenance contracts to fly in the desert.

The first Trump administration put forth its own Israeli-Palestinian peace plan, spearheaded by Middle East envoy Jared Kushner. That plan was known as Peace to Prosperity and came with various bells and whistles about improving the Palestinian economy. But the real focus of the plan was on countering Iran. Trump withdrew from Barack Obama’s Iran nuclear deal and then set about encircling Iran’s sphere of influence, what was formerly known as the Shiite Crescent, encompassing the clerical regime’s allies and proxies from the Persian Gulf to the eastern Mediterranean—including Bashar al-Assad’s Syria and Iraq’s Shiite militias and often the country’s Shiite-led government, as well as Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.

To outflank the Iranian axis, the Trump team knit together U.S. allies covering the same territory through a series of economic agreements. These were the Abraham Accords, struck between Israel and several Muslim-majority states, including Morocco, Bahrain and, most crucially, the United Arab Emirates. The accords highlighted America’s regional security architecture as well as Trump’s ability to make things happen. Rather than try to resolve the major issue that divided Israel from its neighbors, as past administrations had done to no effect, Trump pushed the Palestinian issue to one side and focused on what the parties had in common: their worries about Iran. And by striking deals with Israel, the Arabs tacitly acknowledged that it was the only regional state that was capable of solving their mutual problem through military means, whether acting with the United States or alone.

The participation of Bahrain, effectively a Saudi satellite, in the first round of the Abraham Accords was enough to signal that Riyadh approved of the historic agreements. There was no need for the Trump team to bring the Saudis in directly, especially since that was likely to vitiate the purpose of the Abraham Accords, which was to unify U.S. allies against Iran while marginalizing the Palestinian issue. But since the Saudis are the standard-bearers of Islam, at least Sunni Islam, any engagement with Israel would have to entail a public position on the great Muslim and Arab cause, the Palestinians. And since the Palestinian file was controlled by the Iranians, through their Hamas proxies, bringing the Palestinians back into the mix meant giving the Iranians a seat at the table. That’s why the first Trump administration was happy to have the Saudis looking on from the outside. And it’s why the Biden team pushed for direct Saudi-Israel talks: to put the Palestinians, and therefore the Iranians, back on center stage.

In the aftermath of the attack, the Saudis resolved to take over the Palestinian file themselves. They reasoned that the only way to stabilize the new Middle East was to cut out extremists, like Iran and its proxies, and empower moderates like MBS. That was true. But there was another reason for Saudi’s gambit, one less flattering to Riyadh’s self-image.

By using Qatar as an interlocutor with Hamas, the Biden administration, and then the Trump team, boosted the prestige of Saudi Arabia’s chief foe. Despite the kingdom’s regular pronouncements of its brotherly affection for Qatar, the two Gulf powers have despised each other for decades or more. During the first Trump term, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt imposed a four-year blockade on Qatar because of its efforts to destabilize the region. Riyadh wants the Palestinian file because it doesn’t want Qatar to have it.

Even assuming the Saudis have the best of intentions—that is, they’re not simply using the White House to get a leg up on their Gulf rival—the problem is that the Palestinian file can’t be wrested from regional troublemakers since it was designed by bad actors to be used for bad purposes. The Saudis understand this in part: For instance, they don’t want Gazan refugees because the Palestinians have brought chaos and violence to every state they’ve inhabited (Jordan, Lebanon, and Kuwait, as well as Gaza and the West Bank), and a Palestinian presence in Saudi Arabia would therefore destabilize the kingdom and spell the end of the reform program of the 40-year-old crown prince.

For Israel, a normalization deal with Saudi is worth little more than the paper it’s written on. For Saudi Arabia, especially if it gets Israel to agree to a two-state framework, a normalization agreement could cause large and unforeseeable dangers. The Palestinian file has proven itself to be a curse to those who wield it, like the Soviet Union, Nasser’s Egypt, the Assads’ Syria, and Saddam’s Iraq, all of which have faded from history even as the Islamic Republic of Iran now teeters on the abyss.

As for Trump, he’s already had his big Middle East victory—a win much more significant and durable than a normalization agreement. Not only did he, in partnership with Netanyahu, eliminate the Iranian threat, but also he revived the U.S.-led regional order that is crucial to American peace and prosperity. Israel is America’s regional enforcer, and a good destination for tech investors. The Saudis pump cheap oil to stabilize global energy markets, buy U.S. arms systems, and invest in U.S. industry. That’s a regional order that works well for everyone—starting with the United States. Now it’s time to get the Middle East and the black hole in the middle of it, the Palestinians, off the front page and turn to the bigger issue on which Trump’s historical legacy will rest: China.

[uddu]

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1992712690498683188
@NiohBerg
Elon Musk probably doesn't even know the earthquake he unleashed in Iran.

Because of the country location update, we now have a full list of regime supporters inside Iran who are so important and valued that they get to enjoy VPN free social media.

This is extremely useful info. We can now investigate who exactly these figures are, and why they have this privilege.

Very interesting times ahead.

[uddu]

This requires internal investigation too
https://x.com/DrEliDavid/status/1992562753098432919
@DrEliDavid
One of the most outspoken "Palestinian" accounts who raised money for her "starving family in Gaza" is based in India


https://x.com/nicolelampert/status/1992552071636365744
@nicolelampert
The BBC has extensively quoted an X account of a ‘journalist in Gaza’ as an eyewitness.
But a new feature on X means we can see that this ‘journalist in Gaza’ appears to be in…Poland.

https://x.com/SRistol88/status/1992418564649918730
SRistol88
And BBC has quoted him, while in Poland he saw and heard the rockets in Gaza. Quite a sight and hearing.