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Kamala Harris likely would have done the "inform Congress" route; but who knows?
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A_Gupta wrote: 05 Jan 2026 18:21 Kamala Harris likely would have done the "inform Congress" route; but who knows?
As a data point Obama never got congressional approval for his use of drone strikes across all over the world
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A_Gupta wrote: 05 Jan 2026 18:21 Kamala Harris likely would have done the "inform Congress" route; but who knows?
Maybe a few select committees filled with neoliberals & neocons, at the moment it was happening. Maybe not like the OBL case. In any case POTUS is way too imperial as congress has abandoned its role as a coequal branch of government.

Trump is threatening India again on Russian oil while aboard AF1 with clowns like Lindsey Graham & Nutlick.
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Both houses and presidency is under Republicans thus no issues for Trump.
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https://x.com/Starboy2079/status/2008084700490088913
The Real Story behind US taking over Venezuela (Expose)
Starboy Exclusive

US capture of Venezuela's President Maduro on January 3, 2026, was a final move in a hidden game
Let's unravel this mystery, dot by dot, with real events. Stay sharp, the truth is in the connections
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2008 ... =topunroll

Grok summary
The thread presents a conspiracy narrative alleging that US billionaire Paul Singer, through his Elliott Management's Amber Energy, orchestrated the November 2025 auction win of CITGO's parent company for $5.9 billion, followed by the January 3, 2026, US military capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, to seize control of Venezuela's heavy oil reserves, with pro-Israel lobbying via AIPAC and Trump donations as the connective force.
Confirmed facts include the Delaware court's approval of Amber Energy's bid to resolve $60 billion in Venezuelan bond defaults, Singer's $7 million+ contributions to Trump-aligned PACs in 2024, and the US operation that renditioned Maduro to face federal charges, amid Trump's "Trump Corollary" announcement for interim US management of Venezuelan oil.
Venezuela's PDVSA-owned CITGO refineries, specialized for heavy crude, represent 10% of US refining capacity per EIA data, making their control strategically vital; Maduro's 2009 severance of Israel ties and alliances with Iran/Palestine provide geopolitical friction, though peer-reviewed analyses like those in Foreign Affairs highlight economic sanctions as primary drivers over singular lobbying influence.
Grok Fact check
Facts Confirmed in the Thread
The thread accurately describes several verifiable events and relationships based on public records, court documents, and news reports. Here's a breakdown: Paul Singer's Background and Elliott Management: Singer is a billionaire hedge fund manager who founded Elliott Management in 1977. By 2025, it managed around $76 billion and is known for "vulture fund" strategies, buying distressed debt from defaulting countries and pursuing legal action for payouts. Examples include Elliott's litigation against Argentina, which settled for $2.4 billion in 2016 after seizing assets like a naval ship in Ghana.

Singer's Ties to Pro-Israel Groups: Singer has donated significantly to AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) and other pro-Israel causes, including $1 million to AIPAC in 2018 and founding Start-Up Nation Central in 2013 to promote Israeli tech. He's described as having Zionist ties and influencing U.S. policy favoring Israel.

AIPAC's Influence on Trump and 2024 Elections: AIPAC, supported by donors like Singer, spent over $100 million in 2024 to back pro-Israel candidates. Major donors such as Miriam Adelson contributed $120 million to Trump-aligned efforts. Singer personally donated at least $7 million to Trump PACs in 2024, including to Republican causes.

Venezuela's Oil and PDVSA/CITGO: Venezuela holds the world's largest proven oil reserves, much of it heavy crude that requires specialized refineries. PDVSA (Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A.) is the state-owned oil company, and CITGO is its U.S. subsidiary based in Texas. CITGO's refineries (in Texas, Louisiana, and Illinois) have a combined capacity of about 807,000 barrels per day (bpd), optimized for heavy oil processing. This represents roughly 4.5% of total U.S. refining capacity (U.S. total is around 18 million bpd), not 10% as sometimes claimed, though it's strategically vital for heavy crude imports.

Venezuela's Default and CITGO Auction: In 2017, Venezuela defaulted on $60 billion in bonds amid sanctions and mismanagement. A Delaware court ordered the auction of PDV Holding (CITGO's parent) in 2023 to repay creditors. Elliott's affiliate, Amber Energy, won with a $5.89 billion bid in November 2025 (approved November 29), including $2.1 billion to bondholders. This was lower than some bids but selected for certainty of closing.

U.S. Sanctions and Maduro's Capture: Trump imposed heavy sanctions on Venezuela during his first term, exacerbating PDVSA's collapse. On January 3, 2026, U.S. forces conducted strikes and captured Maduro and his wife, rendering them to New York for federal drug-trafficking charges. Trump announced the "Trump Corollary" (an extension of the Monroe Doctrine), asserting U.S. management of Venezuela's oil resources "until a safe transition," including returning U.S. oil companies.

Venezuela's Geopolitical Stance: Maduro severed diplomatic ties with Israel in 2009 over Gaza operations, accused "Zionists" of global plots in 2014, and allied with Iran and Palestine. Venezuela's acting leader post-capture described the U.S. operation as having a "Zionist tint."

Fiction, Exaggerations, and Unsubstantiated Claims

The thread weaves these facts into a grand conspiracy narrative, but several elements lack evidence or are speculative: Orchestrated Plot by Singer via AIPAC/Trump for Oil Seizure: No direct evidence links Singer's donations or AIPAC lobbying specifically to the Maduro capture or CITGO auction as a premeditated scheme. The auction was a legal process stemming from Venezuela's 2017 default and court orders, not a bespoke plot. Sanctions were driven by broader U.S. policy on human rights, drugs, and elections, not singularly by Singer. While Singer benefits financially (a "windfall"), articles note the timing raises eyebrows but stop short of proving causation.

Zionist Revenge Motive: Maduro's anti-Israel stance is real, but framing the capture as AIPAC/Singer punishing an "anti-Zionist state" is unsubstantiated. U.S. actions cite drug trafficking, election fraud, and terrorism ties (e.g., to Iran/Hezbollah), not explicitly Israel. Venezuela's acting leader's "Zionist tint" comment is rhetorical, not proof. clevelandjewishnews.com +3

CITGO's Strategic Overstatement: CITGO is valuable for heavy oil, but the thread exaggerates its indispensability ("without CITGO, Venezuelan oil has very limited value"). Other refineries can handle heavy crude, and CITGO's U.S. share is ~4.5%, not implied dominance.
Staged or Cooperative Capture Theories: X posts speculate Maduro was "flipped" by Trump, staged the capture for protection from cartels, or surrendered evidence on U.S. elections/drugs in exchange for amnesty. These are unproven; official reports describe a real military operation with strikes and rendition.

However, some align with reports of pre-capture talks.

How Close to the Truth?

The thread is about 60-70% rooted in verifiable facts—the players, events, and timelines are real, and Singer undeniably benefits from the CITGO sale and Maduro's ouster. It highlights genuine connections (donations, sanctions, oil stakes) that could suggest opportunism or influence. However, it veers into fiction by assuming a coordinated conspiracy driven by Zionist motives and direct causation (e.g., donations buying the capture). Independent analyses frame this as economic opportunism amid long-standing U.S.-Venezuela tensions, not a Singer-masterminded plot.

The "Trump Corollary" signals aggressive U.S. policy, but evidence points to broader geopolitical goals (countering China/Russia/Iran influence) over personal gain for one donor.

It's a compelling narrative that amplifies coincidences into causation, making it "closer to truth" in spotting alignments but not in proving intent.

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I think this is more to do with US showing to not to meddle in North or South America (Their close region of influence) and less to do with Oil. Petroleum consumption is going down in US for example from 20.5 million barrels per day in 2005, now it is down to 19, with 15-16 during Covid. 11% of all cars are electric now and growing fast , in 3-5 years it will be around 35%. With Trucks and Buses, just last year 20% of all trucks/busses were electric around the world.

Only thing that works in US favor is that Venezuela to Houston (most refineries) is 2200 miles (Ship) as oppose to 12000 miles (Middle east) and not to go through Panama canal and Malacca straits. Oil consumption is consistently going down and starting a war based on oil is just a smokescreen. Real issue could be drugs and curbing the immigration from South-Central America. Drugs are getting cheaper by the day. Just check the homeless streets in San Francisco, Seattle, LA, etc. Shale gas and electricity is replacing petroleum fast (5-10% per year)
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Global oil demand continues to rise.
world oil demand is forecast to increase by 830 kb/d this year and 860 kb/d in 2026.
IEA Oil Market Report December 2025

Flooding the market with new oil sources will result in lower oil prices than otherwise possible. In the absence of any other breakthroughs in EV pricing, this will effectively delay any EV transition by up to a decade allowing more $s to be extracted from fossil fuels.
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Vayutuvan wrote: 05 Jan 2026 09:39
Jay wrote: 05 Jan 2026 08:53

If grok says then it must not all be fake then...probably also certified by midwest petriot facebook admin too I suppose.
you naat pelieb ABC/CNN/BBC/CBS...?!!! afsos kee baat hai jee. meeru commie-unity kallege vaaru kadaa.
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This is taking a leaf out of Modi's playbook - i.e., the surgical strike. These things do not need legislative approval, and indeed it obviously cannot be routed through legislature at all due to the secrecy/surprise aspects.

Let's see if there will be more surgeries on Cuba ? Colombia ?

I doubt US oil and gas companies will restart operations anytime soon. Right now, they would probably like for Venezuela to pay the nationalization settlement awarded by world bank arbitration years ago.
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Look at this guy. Posing all chummy with the "DEA" soldiers who arrested him. All smiles and giving a thumbs-up. Apparently he was very relaxed, jovial and wished all the staff at the processing center "Happy New Year".

https://www.instagram.com/p/DTG_Zv7ESTZ/

This is not a guy who was jolted out of his bedroom and renditioned unexpectedly, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. He knew what to expect and looks happy, if not relieved, that all went according to plan.

Much is black in the lentils here.
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Jay wrote: 05 Jan 2026 08:53
Vayutuvan wrote: 05 Jan 2026 07:49 Not AI generated. Grok says the following.
If grok says then it must not all be fake then...probably also certified by midwest petriot facebook admin too I suppose.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 357726.cms

A viral video claimed to show Venezuelans celebrating Nicolás Maduro’s capture, but the footage was filmed in Miami, not Venezuela. Nick Shirley shared the clip and later corrected himself after a Community Note appeared. Journalists and users criticized the false claim.
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Check this tweet/X

https://x.com/Ric_RTP/status/2007429683713917147


The real reason the US is invading Venezuela goes back to a deal Henry Kissinger made with Saudi Arabia in 1974.
And I'm going to explain why this is actually about the SURVIVAL of the US dollar itself.
Not drugs. Not terrorism. Not "democracy."
This is about the petrodollar system that has kept America the dominant economic power for 50 years.
And Venezuela just threatened to end it.
Here's what really just happened:
Venezuela has 303 billion barrels of proven oil reserves.
The largest on Earth.
More than Saudi Arabia.
20% of the entire world's oil.
But here's the part that matters:
Venezuela was actively selling that oil in Chinese yuan. Not dollars.
In 2018, Venezuela announced it would "free itself from the dollar."

They started accepting yuan, euros, rubles, anything BUT dollars for oil.
They were petitioning to join BRICS.
They were building direct payment channels with China that bypass SWIFT entirely.
And they were sitting on enough oil to fund de-dollarization for decades.
Why does this matter?

Because the entire American financial system is built on one thing:
The petrodollar.
In 1974, Henry Kissinger made a deal with Saudi Arabia:
All oil sold globally must be priced in US dollars.
In exchange, America provides military protection.
This single agreement created artificial demand for dollars worldwide.

Every country on Earth needs dollars to buy oil.
This lets America print unlimited money while other countries work for it.
It funds the military. The welfare state. The deficit spending.
The petrodollar is more important to US hegemony than aircraft carriers.
And there's a pattern of what happens to leaders who challenge it:

2000: Saddam Hussein announces Iraq will sell oil in euros instead of dollars.
2003: Invaded. Regime change. Iraq's oil immediately switched back to dollars. Saddam lynched.

The WMDs were never found because they never existed.
2009: Gaddafi proposes a gold-backed African currency called the "gold dinar" for oil trade.
Hillary Clinton's own leaked emails confirm this was the PRIMARY reason for intervention.
Email quote: "This gold was intended to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar."
2011: NATO bombs Libya. Gaddafi sodomized and murdered. Libya now has open slave markets.
"We came, we saw, he died!" Clinton laughed on camera.
The gold dinar died with him.
And now Maduro.

With FIVE TIMES more oil than Saddam and Gaddafi combined.
Actively selling in yuan.
Building payment systems outside dollar control.
Petitioning to join BRICS.
Partnered with China, Russia, and Iran.
The three countries leading global de-dollarization.
This isn't coincidence.

Challenge the petrodollar. Get regime changed.
Every. Single. Time.

Stephen Miller (US homeland security advisor) literally said it out loud two weeks ago:
"American sweat, ingenuity and toil created the oil industry in Venezuela. Its tyrannical expropriation was the largest recorded theft of American wealth and property."
He's not hiding it.

They're claiming Venezuelan oil BELONGS to America because US companies developed it 100 years ago.
By this logic, every nationalized resource in history was "theft."
But here's the DEEPER problem:

The petrodollar is already dying.
Russia sells oil in rubles and yuan since Ukraine.
Saudi Arabia is openly discussing yuan settlements.

Iran has been trading in non-dollar currencies for years.
China built CIPS, their own alternative to SWIFT with 4,800 banks in 185 countries.

BRICS is actively building payment systems that bypass the dollar entirely.
The mBridge project lets central banks settle trades instantly in local currencies.

Venezuela joining BRICS with 303 billion barrels of oil would accelerate this exponentially.
That's what this invasion is really about.

Not stopping drugs. Venezuela accounts for less than 1% of US cocaine.
Not terrorism. There's zero evidence Maduro runs a "terror organization."
Not democracy. The US supports Saudi Arabia, which has zero elections.
This is about maintaining a 50-year-old agreement that lets America print money while the world works for it.

And the consequences are terrifying:
Russia, China, and Iran are already denouncing this as "armed aggression."
China is Venezuela's biggest oil customer. They're losing billions.
BRICS nations are watching a country get invaded for trading outside the dollar.

Every nation considering de-dollarization just got the message:
Challenge the dollar and we will bomb you.

But here's the problem...
That message might accelerate de-dollarization, not stop it.
Because now every country in the Global South knows what happens if you threaten dollar hegemony.
And they're realizing the only protection is to move FASTER.

The timing is insane too:
January 3rd, 2026. Venezuela invaded. Maduro captured.
January 3rd, 1990. Panama invaded. Noriega captured.
36 years apart. Almost to the day.
Same playbook. Same "drug trafficking" excuse.
Same real reason: control of strategic resources and trade routes.
History doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

What happens next:
Trump's press conference at Mar-a-Lago sets the narrative.

US oil companies are already lined up. Politico reported they've been approached about "returning to Venezuela."
The opposition will be installed. Oil will flow in dollars again.
Venezuela becomes another Iraq. Another Libya.
But here's what nobody's asking:

What happens when you can no longer bomb your way to dollar dominance?
When China has enough economic leverage to retaliate?
When BRICS controls 40% of global GDP and says "no more dollars"?

When the world realizes the petrodollar is maintained by violence?
America just showed its hand.
The question is whether the rest of the world folds or calls the bluff.
Because this invasion is an admission that the dollar can no longer compete on its own merits.

When you have to bomb countries to keep them using your currency, the currency is already dying.
Venezuela isn't the beginning.
It's the desperate end.

What do you think?
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About 9 trillion dollars worth of US bonds are maturing this year. These were on very low interest rates and now when it gets rolled over it will be on higher interest rate. The interest alone would burden the US treasury.

Now, they need to get all the countries in line. So, the stick or the sharp teeth is being shown.
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Rudradev wrote: 06 Jan 2026 01:12 Image

Look at this guy. Posing all chummy with the "DEA" soldiers who arrested him. All smiles and giving a thumbs-up. Apparently he was very relaxed, jovial and wished all the staff at the processing center "Happy New Year".

https://www.instagram.com/p/DTG_Zv7ESTZ/

This is not a guy who was jolted out of his bedroom and renditioned unexpectedly, like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. He knew what to expect and looks happy, if not relieved, that all went according to plan.

Much is black in the lentils here.
:shock:

He will claim that Venezuela helped Dems to win 2020 US elections, then Trump will pardon Maduro & wife.
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A_Gupta wrote: 05 Jan 2026 18:21 Kamala Harris likely would have done the "inform Congress" route; but who knows?
If my aunt had a mooch, she would be my uncle.
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drnayar wrote: 06 Jan 2026 01:35 A viral video claimed to show Venezuelans celebrating Nicolás Maduro’s capture, but the footage was filmed in Miami, not Venezuela. Nick Shirley shared the clip and later corrected himself after a Community Note appeared. Journalists and users criticized the false claim.
Gork said the same - Florida and Chile.
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Tanaji wrote: 05 Jan 2026 19:01
A_Gupta wrote: 05 Jan 2026 18:21 Kamala Harris likely would have done the "inform Congress" route; but who knows?
As a data point Obama never got congressional approval for his use of drone strikes across all over the world
What is the reason to conflate drone strikes, disposal of Osama bin Laden, and kidnapping a head of state? How does one provide a data point for the other?

Added: some might find this useful https://journals.law.harvard.edu/jlpp/w ... _Final.pdf
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Interesting stat:
In 1992, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 1996, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2000, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2004 ,US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2016, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2024, US Elected a president born in 1946!
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drnayar wrote: 06 Jan 2026 01:35
Jay wrote: 05 Jan 2026 08:53

If grok says then it must not all be fake then...probably also certified by midwest petriot facebook admin too I suppose.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 357726.cms

A viral video claimed to show Venezuelans celebrating Nicolás Maduro’s capture, but the footage was filmed in Miami, not Venezuela. Nick Shirley shared the clip and later corrected himself after a Community Note appeared. Journalists and users criticized the false claim.
As expected. It's the same drama with these players..
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Amber G. wrote: 06 Jan 2026 06:14 Interesting stat:
In 1992, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 1996, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2000, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2004 ,US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2016, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2024, US Elected a president born in 1946!
Amberji.. there are thoughts around freemasons magic and hidden occult signs present in the American foundations esp it's currency but karma is karma. One can prolong but it can't be denied.
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A_Gupta wrote: 06 Jan 2026 03:24 What is the reason to conflate drone strikes, disposal of Osama bin Laden, and kidnapping a head of state? How does one provide a data point for the other?
Maduro was not recognized as the HoS by either the Trump I/II administrations or the Biden administration. I also quoted the relevant article from The Hill and Wikipedia pages in previous posts of mine.
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I have seen some interesting comments about AI (trusting or not ) here so sharing..
When asked ChatGPT about details about Venezuela on Saturday, and its reaction in India - it not only didn't recognize it happened, but it thought it was preposterous to even *ask* ..
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Another example of how these retardlican snakes operate to support their narrative, any narrative. Below example is about the boat strikes...

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRoganReacha ... _nth_time/
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Next time US Congress critters write to India about an Islami detainee, you can be sure that a bail hearing (or sentencing hearing) is coming up. These are some well-organized folks.

I wonder if the network can be traced.
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If trump goes for greenland, NATO and europe are both dead in the water, with the russian bear licking its chops, virtually next door, the freeloading eurotrash are staring at a very uncertain future.

jihadis inside and the russkis outside




Just imagine the condition of those german n@z! diplomats who openly sniggered at trump during his 2018 United Nations General Assembly speech

wonder what these herrenvolk clowns are doing now

following their liberal, woke and "enlightened" policies, they successfully managed to flush their "marshall planned" country was right into the toilet.

they are once again left staring at their old nemesis, the erstwhile soviet army, and if push came to shove, the results of a rematch would pretty much be the same






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg


germany reacts to trump's UNGA speech








The german diplomat once best known for laughing at Donald Trump’s warning that germany’s dependence on Russian energy would become a problem was unable to finish his speech at the Munich Security Conference as he apparently found the implications of emissary JD Vance’s message from the Trump White House too upsetting.

the clown wept publicly






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVnQ_Hvi5Fw


Munich Conference: German Politician Weeps Onstage After USA VP Vance's Speech








These eurotrash have been hit by one geopolitical hammer blow after another, causing their crumbling walls to disintegrate faster and further. They had no idea at all that their collective cultures and enlightened "freedoms" were held in such low esteem. especially by those they imperiously considered barbarians and inferiors


India's External Affairs Minister S. Jaishankar, in 2022, stated that europe needs to outgrow the mindset that europe's problems are the world's problems, but the world's problems are not europe's problems............ followed by.....

JD Vance's historic full speech at the Munich Security Conference (2025), where he strongly criticized european leaders for their approach to free speech. He specifically targeted the United Kingdom, calling out its restrictive policies and emphasizing the importance of protecting freedom of expression.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMYiSuLd0zA


European leaders, media stunned by JD Vance's speech






In case anyone is interested, this is JD Vance's full speech at the munich security conference, the very one that held up the mirror to the supercilious eurotrash, whose braggadocio regarding "freedoms and culture" was, quite frankly beginning to jar on a global stage.



The reality of greenland's position now stares them in their collective and militarily impotent faces...............

do they stick their collective necks out and risk getting it chopped off or do they offer their collective glutei maximi to encourage and comfort trump in his take over of greenland, if push came to shove
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Amber G. wrote: 06 Jan 2026 06:57 I have seen some interesting comments about AI (trusting or not ) here so sharing..
When asked ChatGPT about details about Venezuela on Saturday, and its reaction in India - it not only didn't recognize it happened, but it thought it was preposterous to even *ask* ..
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Let this be a learning opportunity for people who keep posting “AI” summaries. It’s not unprecedented and has happened a few times. Panama comes to mind.
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Another haram tweet which unfortunately says exactly what it is

"Donald Trump is forcing himself on countries the same way he forced himself on 14-year-olds."

https://x.com/marlene4719/status/2008236640775663629

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chetak wrote: 06 Jan 2026 10:47 If trump goes for greenland, NATO and europe are both dead in the water, with the russian bear licking its chops, virtually next door, the freeloading eurotrash are staring at a very uncertain future.



do they stick their collective necks out and risk getting it chopped off or do they offer their collective glutei maximi to encourage and comfort trump in his take over of greenland, if push came to shove
Chetakji.. countries that lose their culture and identity loses it all. They will be relegated to the dustbin of history

UK , France and Germany are half way there and most of western Europe
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drnayar wrote: 06 Jan 2026 12:53
chetak wrote: 06 Jan 2026 10:47 If trump goes for greenland, NATO and europe are both dead in the water, with the russian bear licking its chops, virtually next door, the freeloading eurotrash are staring at a very uncertain future.



do they stick their collective necks out and risk getting it chopped off or do they offer their collective glutei maximi to encourage and comfort trump in his take over of greenland, if push came to shove
Chetakji.. countries that lose their culture and identity loses it all. They will be relegated to the dustbin of history

UK , France and Germany are half way there and most of western Europe


drnayar ji,

This is exactly what the britshits in particular, along with their woke commie pals, desert cult backers, and the BIF tried to do to the civilizational India

Their collective panic, at the rise of Modi ji's India, is palpable.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwVJq6BhRZE



INFILTRATED! - How the USA buys Greenland's elite









While Trump threatens military action against Greenland, a quieter takeover is already happening. This investigation exposes how Ronald Lauder — Trump's billionaire friend, who planted the Greenland idea in 2017 — is systematically buying into Greenland's economy through a Delaware corporation called Greenland Development Partners.

The problem is not the investments. It's his business partners. It's the husband of Greenland's Foreign Minister and other politically connected elites.

WHAT THIS VIDEO REVEALS:

• Ronald Lauder's strategic investments in Greenland Water Bank and Greenland Investment Group
• The shocking conflict of interest: Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt negotiates with the US while her husband Jørgen Wæver Johansen partners with Trump's advisor
• Why Danish experts call this "strategic investment" designed to build American control
• The coordinated strategy: Trump's public threats combined with Lauder's private economic infiltration
• How modern imperialism works through investment funds and corporate partnerships, not military invasion

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WHY YOU NEED TO WATCH THIS:

Everyone's focused on Trump's provocative statements about buying Greenland, but the REAL story is happening behind closed doors. Based on investigative reporting from Danish newspaper Politiken, this video connects the dots between billionaire influence, political corruption, and geopolitical strategy.

You'll understand:
→ How Trump makes foreign policy through billionaire friends, not diplomats
→ Why Greenland's independence movement is threatened by American economic colonialism
→ The playbook for 21st-century territorial acquisition without military force
→ How small nations get trapped between needing investment and losing sovereignty
→ The stunning conflicts of interest at the highest levels of Greenland's government

This isn't conspiracy theory—it's documented fact backed by public records, expert analysis, and government statements.

If you care about sovereignty, geopolitics, Arctic security, or how power really works in international relations, this investigation is essential viewing.
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If true, this late breaking news will hit the amrikis where it will hurt them the most


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1p64XeW6Jc


4 US Allies Just Applied to EU Defense Club – America SHUT OUT





Jan 6, 2026

While Donald Trump was threatening to make Canada the 51st state, four of America's closest allies just submitted applications to join Europe's exclusive defense program—and the Pentagon is using words like "catastrophic" in classified memos about what this means.

On January 2nd, 2026, Australia, Japan, South Korea, and New Zealand formally applied to join the European Union's SAFE defense initiative, the same program that admitted Canada as its first non-European member just six weeks ago. According to leaked European Commission documents, all four applications are expected to be approved by March 15th, giving them access to €340 billion in defense financing and production partnerships that completely bypass American systems.


This isn't about trade deals or diplomatic ceremonies.

This is about the systematic construction of a post-American security architecture that could cost US defense contractors $290 billion over the next fifteen years and fundamentally reshape global power distribution.

Timestamp:
0:00 - While Trump Threatened Canada, 4 Allies Made Their Move
1:30 - The Applications Nobody Saw Coming
3:45 - What Australia, Japan, South Korea & New Zealand Offered
6:20 - The Pentagon's "Catastrophic" Assessment
8:50 - Constitutional Crisis: When Alliance Dependence Evaporates
11:40 - Leaked Diplomatic Cables: "Post-Atlantic Security Order"

DISCLAIMER:

This video presents analysis based on publicly available information, leaked documents reported by credible news sources, and expert assessments. All claims are attributed to named sources or documented evidence. Viewer discretion is advised regarding interpretation of geopolitical developments.
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As we see T's balatkar of Europe, we just have to wait on the side and not react. After USSR demise, Europe sided with a bully and helped them to bring down regimes, create civil unrest, and run propaganda against countries. Now the reckoning is coming ... 24x7 Soros/Clinton/WEF propaganda against India. We still make deals with them to move on trade front but lets hope they all screw each other. No need for any sympathy
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Murika
JD Vance Delivers Blunt Statements to World Leaders in Munich
Vice President JD Vance delivers remarks at the 2025 Munich Security Conference.
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vijayk wrote: 06 Jan 2026 20:49 As we see T's balatkar of Europe, we just have to wait on the side and not react. After USSR demise, Europe sided with a bully and helped them to bring down regimes, create civil unrest, and run propaganda against countries. Now the reckoning is coming ... 24x7 Soros/Clinton/WEF propaganda against India. We still make deals with them to move on trade front but lets hope they all screw each other. No need for any sympathy


vijayk ji,


This was a small part of a forward that came VI@WA.

This is euro trash's real situation.

They brought it upon themselves because they thought that they had a "sugar daddy" who would care for them in perpetuity, even as they despised the amrikis and looked down upon them as uncultured country yokels.

They all thought that the lunches were free but were gobsmacked when trumpwa shoved the long pending bill down their throats. (one could have used another phrase but that would have brought the raptors on the hunt)

In 2025, Europe endured a continental-scale humiliation.

The EU and UK gave in to Donald Trump's tariff extortion - accepting lopsided trade deals, tribute-like payments and adjustments to domestic laws.

At NATO, European leaders grovelled -- calling the US president "daddy" even as he threatened to invade an EU country's territory.

"They call me the president of Europe," Trump bragged.

Terrified of losing US protection from Russia, European leaders have accepted terms that echo the coercion once imposed on China during its 'century of humiliation'.

Yet eurotrash citizens accepted it.

A continent that has lost its way and forgotten its sense of self.
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Mort Walker wrote: 06 Jan 2026 02:24
He will claim that Venezuela helped Dems to win 2020 US elections, then Trump will pardon Maduro & wife.
That's exactly what will happen. The trial will be a PR event where maduro after initial resistance will start singing praises about how competent and handsome pedo-donnie is and it was kommie kamala that made him do all this. Once he is sentenced, his team will pledge a few cool billions to donnie as an investment vehicle to trump corp and secures the pardon where pedo-donnie will say what an reformed citizen maduro is and he deserves this pardon. Everyone know this script... :rotfl:
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Chetakji
I suppose you remember the famous Gabbar dialogue "Jo Dhar Gaya Samjho Woh Mar Gaya'
EU blinked first with the Tariifs and paid Tributes
Now Zelensky the Clown and Eurotrash are on tight schedule
Feb max for the Deal or else OM will finish it one way or the other!
Greenland is the Icing on the cake!!
2026 may well turn out as a defining moment in US history.
There is no need for Western/Democratic/yada yada spin anymore.
Its out in the open now raw power to establish Pax Americana!!
Deep State/Neocons/BlackRock group/ Yada yada what ever name you want to give them, they have now realised that OM is a very useful '>>>" and they think are the Organ-grinders but OM may ultimately prove them all wrong.
MAGA, RIGHT Wingers, Onward Christian Soldier, Bliiionaire Club are happy with Pax-A.
Elon seems to be making up with OM ( And I wonder what deal has been cut).
One hand US is tightening the grip on Oil and Maybe Lithium as well
Two more countries to be hit in Americas : Cuba and Brazil, and the rest will roll over to the Gringos!!
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And that leaves the Asia.
Middle East will be converted to a Sunni dominated Muslim world living side by side with Isreal.
Palestine will be a 'Trishanku Swarga' not wiiners there for any foreseaeable future!!
Japan/SoKo/Aus/NZ are tightly bound to US one way or the other.
And if China flexes then they will need a Big Brother!!
Chini Maal is failing constantly (no Wonder the Jihadi Pakis have truned 180 degrees and are presenting the Pudendum to OM post Sindoor)
And that leave Russia and India!!
I have stroing feeling that China will be allowed Taiwan after shifting important Chip to US as a sop.
Russia will be given parts of Ukraine and Nato expansion will stop.
Hmm India!!
Be preapared for redrawing of borders (though I want the Western boundary and K2) but more likely Eastern and Chattogram and Panwa be included as new Naval Bases with broad corridor in north!!
I wonder how long will it be before Nepal and Bhutan become Indian states!!!
And that will satisfy some Akhandatha Multiporarity but Main Baap will still be US!!
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Amber G. wrote: 06 Jan 2026 06:14 Interesting stat:
In 1992, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 1996, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2000, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2004 ,US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2016, US Elected a president born in 1946!
In 2024, US Elected a president born in 1946!
Clinton, Bush and the OM.
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Maduro Noriega etc all sounds like : Jugurtha, Mithradates and Vercingetorix!!! all over again.
Though we may not kneel but the diplomatic submission will have to be Tactical
Until China ultimately collapse under sheer weight of Debt Crisis or a coup setting off chain reactions!! we may have to carry the burden of clientship!!
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