Understanding the US - Again

[drnayar]

apologies to

[Vayutuvan]

In other news:
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Why is Serena Williams being targeted?

[Vayutuvan]

@drnayar ji,

> U.S. Congressional Reassurance: The protests coincided with a visit to Copenhagen by a bipartisan U.S. delegation led by Senators Chris Coons
> and Lisa Murkowski, who sought to reassure Danish leaders that the vast majority of Americans do not support the annexation plan.

I am not sure that "the vast majority of Americans do not support it". Do these two congress critters have any survey results, or did they pull those non-quantitative numbers out of thin air?

[S_Madhukar]

Instead of joking about Trump-Monroe Doctrine, I think we should (or our think tanks do) do some deeper analysis of why the revival of Monroe Doctrine.
The US correctly or wrongly or unilaterally called Western Hemisphere as their domain and no Eastner White/Black/Brown or any other combination is not welcome!!
What is that has spooked the US to call for this??

So what has turned US insular and inwards so to speak??

the "petro dollar" and the impossibility of sustaining the american debt mountain

Their imagination only goes as far. So after Cold War back to colonialism 2.0… so now after fiat currency era back to Donroe doctrine as we price currency back in gold. Hollywood might even go back to roaring 20s movies …

My question is how come EU is naive about American debt pressure and how come they don’t expect such behaviour?? Same with Cheen, they only seem to do kadi ninda and sell some treasuries. May be they know now is just negotiation before Yanks are cornered

[drnayar]

the "petro dollar" and the impossibility of sustaining the american debt mountain

Their imagination only goes as far. So after Cold War back to colonialism 2.0… so now after fiat currency era back to Donroe doctrine as we price currency back in gold. Hollywood might even go back to roaring 20s movies …

My question is how come EU is naive about American debt pressure and how come they don’t expect such behaviour?? Same with Cheen, they only seem to do kadi ninda and sell some treasuries. May be they know now is just negotiation before Yanks are cornered

Look at how Americans influenced EU politics., there is apart from a few , no one really worth the salt as head of nations. But remember , its not just politicians., its the bureaucracy that actually runs EU., the less said the better !.. they are just too compromised to do anything worthwhile ., the group will eventually fall on its own weight. It is said famously by the Germans no less., when it comes to technology, they are caught between the devil and the deep sea, ie, the NSA/American or the Chinese.

CIA has dirt on almost all european politicians to make sure they don't stray too far.

[drnayar]

and i thought it wont get worse [ or better? ]

Trump has started a new subscription service .. this time for countries : the cost only one Billion [per year]

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 636784.cms


A draft charter suggests US President Trump's proposed "Board of Peace" could require a $1 billion contribution for permanent membership, sparking concerns of an alternative to the UN. Trump would chair the board, with membership renewal at his discretion

[chetak]

[Manish_P]

...
Trump has started a new subscription service .. this time for countries : the cost only one Billion [per year]
...

Payment can be done in cash (the gulf), kind (Venezuela) and crypto (jihadistan)

[Aldonkar]

^ This is a lesson in ruthless prioritization .

Norway does not have an army what can withstand Trump, yet he is going after the bigger prize in Greenland.

indeed.. but dont give him ideas., Norway is flush in oil and gas..and has a state fund in trillions.. literally the Saudi of the west.. and trump seems to like blond people !!

I saw the original post and wondered how Norway entered the discussion which if i recollect correctly was about Greenland. I think that somewhere a poster confused Norway and Denmark (Greenland is a dependency of Denmark). Both countries are NATO members and belong to the Nordic group with strong ties in people and language. In fact, a couple of centuries ago, they were briefly one country.

Denmark is not as "rich" as Norway and has struggled to maintain its living standards. Like most of Europe, Denmark has a left wing Government but with some right wing attitudes on certain topics such as immigration as it has been targeted by peacefool types from the ME and Pakistan. In fact our British Home Secretary (a peacefool) has been adopting some of their ideas particularly with regards to asylum and has a proposal to adopt similar asylum laws.

I happen to know Norway quite well because I have a cousin living there (married to a Norwegian) and she is the closest relative in Europe, except for immediate family. For some obscure reason, Norway chooses the Nobel Peace laureate, though all the other Laureates are chosen by Sweden as Alfred Nobel was a Swede.

(I wonder if one of the Wimbledon tennis champions can be persuaded to "donate" their prize to me. I could thus get the Wimbledon championship I always craved but did not have the skill to win.)

[uddu]

https://x.com/AadiAchint/status/2012771364126724423
@AadiAchint
Bank of England told to prepare for a market crash if the United States announces Alien Life. Helen McCaw who served as a senior analyst in financial security at the UK’s central bank sounded the alarm. She has now written to Andrew Bailey, the Bank’s governor, urging him to organize contingencies for the possibility that the White House may confirm we are not alone in the universe.

Here we go !!!

What we are seeing are the begining of a created crisis where the US will try to reset itself and its financial sector.. IF THE WORLD NEEDS TO BE CRASHED SO BE IT... THE DEEP STATE IS GOING TO ANY LENGTHS TO GET CONTROL BACK..

https://x.com/DougAMacgregor/status/2012759472507072981
@DougAMacgregor
BREAKING: Bank of England told to prepare for a market crash if the United States announces Alien Life.

Helen McCaw who served as a senior analyst in financial security at the UK’s central bank sounded the alarm.

She has now written to Andrew Bailey, the Bank’s governor, urging him to organize contingencies for the possibility that the White House may confirm we are not alone in the universe.

[uddu]

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2012651894305378724
@clashreport
NEW: The Trump administration is asking countries to pay at least $1 billion for a permanent seat on Trump’s proposed “Board of Peace.”

Trump would chair the board, control membership, approve decisions, and oversee funds.

Countries contributing $1 billion in the first year would be exempt from term limits.

Source: Bloomberg

[uddu]

https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/2012576081845563483
@MrSinha_
Trump announced a 10% tariff on Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, UK, Netherlands, and Finland for not allowing the USA to take over Greenland smoothly.

[uddu]

Trump will call him Tiny Napoleon soon.
US Threat Falls Flat: Macron Blasts Trump's Tariff Drama, Gears Up For Coordinated EU Counterpunch
French President Emmanuel Macron openly challenged U.S. President Donald Trump following renewed tensions over NATO, Greenland, and looming trade tariffs. After signals of a possible NATO exit debate in France, Macron drew a firm red line against Washington, condemning Trump’s threat to impose sweeping tariffs on European allies as unacceptable. Macron warned that Europe would respond in a united and coordinated manner if the measures are confirmed, while backing Denmark-led military exercises in Greenland. The standoff has exposed deepening fractures within NATO, as Trump’s Greenland push and trade war rhetoric fuel questions over alliance unity and Europe’s strategic autonomy.

[drnayar]

Trump will call him Tiny Napoleon soon.
US Threat Falls Flat: Macron Blasts Trump's Tariff Drama, Gears Up For Coordinated EU Counterpunch
French President Emmanuel Macron openly challenged U.S. President Donald Trump following renewed tensions over NATO, Greenland, and looming trade tariffs. After signals of a possible NATO exit debate in France, Macron drew a firm red line against Washington, condemning Trump’s threat to impose sweeping tariffs on European allies as unacceptable. Macron warned that Europe would respond in a united and coordinated manner if the measures are confirmed, while backing Denmark-led military exercises in Greenland. The standoff has exposed deepening fractures within NATO, as Trump’s Greenland push and trade war rhetoric fuel questions over alliance unity and Europe’s strategic autonomy.
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orange man pronounces the french president as Emmanuelle.. maybe he knows something

[chetak]

Trump will call him Tiny Napoleon soon.
US Threat Falls Flat: Macron Blasts Trump's Tariff Drama, Gears Up For Coordinated EU Counterpunch
French President Emmanuel Macron openly challenged U.S. President Donald Trump following renewed tensions over NATO, Greenland, and looming trade tariffs. After signals of a possible NATO exit debate in France, Macron drew a firm red line against Washington, condemning Trump’s threat to impose sweeping tariffs on European allies as unacceptable. Macron warned that Europe would respond in a united and coordinated manner if the measures are confirmed, while backing Denmark-led military exercises in Greenland. The standoff has exposed deepening fractures within NATO, as Trump’s Greenland push and trade war rhetoric fuel questions over alliance unity and Europe’s strategic autonomy.
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orange man pronounces the french president as Emmanuelle.. maybe he knows something

drnayar ji,

The french are a nuclear armed state.

They have always had serious cultural and nationalistic identity issues with everyone in europe and specially with the amrikis

they will bluster about a bit to display their "मर्दानगी" and then quieten down, returning swiftly to their siesta and le gouter, both more important to their well being than either ukraine or greenland.

[saip]

https://x.com/clashreport/status/2012651894305378724
@clashreport
NEW: The Trump administration is asking countries to pay at least $1 billion for a permanent seat on Trump’s proposed “Board of Peace.”

Trump would chair the board, control membership, approve decisions, and oversee funds.

Countries contributing $1 billion in the first year would be exempt from term limits.

Source: Bloomberg

Even one of Indian descent is included in the board - Ajay Banga. Never say OM does not like Indians

[saip]

Looks like not only people of Indian descent or Indians taking away 'American' - read White American - jobs but they are taking away even the sporting opportunity. Not only the men's team but even the Women's cricket team is 'infested' by these. Only God and the OM can save the USA.

[A_Gupta]

Ajay Banga is World Bank President.

“ Ajay Banga was appointed head (President) of the World Bank after being nominated by U.S. President Joe Biden in February 2023 and subsequently confirmed by the World Bank's Board of Governors in May 2023 for a five-year term, taking office in June 2023. As the U.S. is the largest shareholder, it traditionally nominates the World Bank president, and Banga, a former Mastercard CEO, was the sole candidate put forward. ”


Feb 23, 2023: “ United States President Joe Biden has nominated former Mastercard CEO Ajay Banga to become president of the World Bank, hailing his business experience in his native India and his commitment to mobilizing private funds to help developing countries grapple with climate change.”


https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2023/ ... world-bank

February 23, 2023
Ajay is uniquely equipped to lead the World Bank at this critical moment in history. He has spent more than three decades building and managing successful, global companies that create jobs and bring investment to developing economies and guiding organizations through periods of fundamental change. He has a proven track record managing people and systems and partnering with global leaders around the world to deliver results.

He also has critical experience mobilizing public-private resources to tackle the most urgent challenges of our time, including climate change. Raised in India, Ajay has a unique perspective on the opportunities and challenges facing developing countries and how the World Bank can deliver on its ambitious agenda to reduce poverty and expand prosperity.

Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Statement on the Nomination of Ajay Banga To Be President of the World Bank Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/node/359794

and

"Trump’s “Board of Peace” is designed to oversee Gaza’s post‑war governance and reconstruction. Including someone like Banga helps anchor the board in development‑driven legitimacy, not just geopolitics. It also aligns with Trump’s push to attract large financial commitments from member states—up to $1 billion for permanent seats—which makes having a respected global economic figure even more strategic. "

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My question is will Saudi Arabia or UAE or Qatar pay for a permanent membership for Pakistan. As the purpose of the Board of Peace extends beyond Palestine to conflicts anywhere in the world, and J&K is a dead issue in the UN, I'm sure Pakistan would like a permanent seat on Trump's Board of Peace - but they can't afford it.

[saip]

Question if the Pakis recd an invit for the Board of Piece (of Sh**). If they did they would have gone to town with it. Dawn did not say anything about it.

[A_Gupta]

Reuters reported: "Pakistan's Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif has received U.S. President Donald Trump's invitation to join the Board of Peace for Gaza, a spokesperson for Pakistan's ministry of foreign affairs said in a statement."

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 026-01-18/

Associated Press reports that India has received an invitation (per an anonymous source in the Indian government). ( https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/mor ... p_catchall )

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In December 2023, Ajay Banga said: "Today, the World Bank is setting an ambitious goal to devote 45 percent of our annual financing to climate by 2025."

The World Bank reports: https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/facts ... opilot.com

We are on track to meeting this target. In fiscal year 2024, the World Bank Group delivered a record $42.6 billion in climate finance. This was 44% of our total financing putting the new target well within striking distance.

I wonder what Trump thinks of that.

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[Jay]

Bank of England told to prepare for a market crash if the United States announces Alien Life.
BREAKING: Bank of England told to prepare for a market crash if the United States announces Alien Life.

Helen McCaw who served as a senior analyst in financial security at the UK’s central bank sounded the alarm.

She has now written to Andrew Bailey, the Bank’s governor, urging him to organize contingencies for the possibility that the White House may confirm we are not alone in the universe.

Now we are blaming it on actual aliens

What next, we will says earth is flat and that's why we are where we are? Truly a tinfoil moment.

[A_Gupta]

https://nordics.info/show/artikel/decla ... land-1916/

DECLARATION.

In proceeding this day to the signature of the Convention respecting the cession of the Danish West-Indian Islands to the United States of America, the undersigned Secretary of State of the United States of America, duly authorized by his Government, has the honor to declare that the Government of the United States of America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland.

Robert Lansing.

New York, August 4, 1916

The question these days seems to be whether any agreement with the US is worth the paper it is written on.

[drnayar]

Bank of England told to prepare for a market crash if the United States announces Alien Life.
BREAKING: Bank of England told to prepare for a market crash if the United States announces Alien Life.

Helen McCaw who served as a senior analyst in financial security at the UK’s central bank sounded the alarm.

She has now written to Andrew Bailey, the Bank’s governor, urging him to organize contingencies for the possibility that the White House may confirm we are not alone in the universe.

Now we are blaming it on actual aliens

What next, we will says earth is flat and that's why we are where we are? Truly a tinfoil moment.

FWIW

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903903 ... ogics-uaps

[SRajesh]

Invite to the "Gaza Peace League Cup"
A poison chalice!!
You are damned if you do and Damned if you dont!!
Overall not going is a better option with the usual suspects claiming India Shirking from her duties
But with 200 Million Peacefuls its a curse attending this League Cup!!

[A_Gupta]

It doesn't make any sense. If aliens have reached the earth, and not done anything yet, then (a) they are far ahead of earth in technology and (b) any inimical designs on earth or humanity would likely have already manifested.

[Jay]

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903903 ... ogics-uaps

Yup, I remember this entire drama in 2023, spilling over to 2024 elections, and our donny boy saying he will release the files post election.

[drnayar]

It doesn't make any sense. If aliens have reached the earth, and not done anything yet, then (a) they are far ahead of earth in technology and (b) any inimical designs on earth or humanity would likely have already manifested.

well just to put it mildly, i don't claim to have read all the Hindu texts, but enough to understand some knowledge comes to human consciousness only when the time is right., as it is also removed when needed., the great destruction of ancient libraries of Nalanda and alexandria was not happenstance. A last chapter of the Autobiography of a Yogi provides a clue., also Paul Brunton's Search in Secret India [ reprinted i believe ]

But honestly any devotee of Babaji would find the concept easy i presume.. the lores go far and wide , of parallel dimensions, existence of alternate realities, multiverse and all that.

Not wanting to sound like Bala., but yes., the truth is there out to see but only to the trained mind. I digress at this point

[Amber G.]

"Trump’s “Board of Peace” is designed to oversee Gaza’s post‑war governance and reconstruction. Including someone like Banga helps anchor the board in development‑driven legitimacy, not just geopolitics. It also aligns with Trump’s push to attract large financial commitments from member states—up to $1 billion for permanent seats—which makes having a respected global economic figure even more strategic. "

Also See: Trump’s letter to Prime Minister to Modiji, inviting him to be part of The Board of Peace for Gaza and future conflicts ( Along with Turkey , Teroristan among others), .

[Vayutuvan]

In December 2023, Ajay Banga said: "Today, the World Bank is setting an ambitious goal to devote 45 percent of our annual financing to climate by 2025."
The World Bank reports: https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/facts ... opilot.com

We are on track to meeting this target. In fiscal year 2024, the World Bank Group delivered a record $42.6 billion in climate finance. This was 44% of our total financing putting the new target well within striking distance.

I wonder what Trump thinks of that.

If I were the poster, I would wonder about what the world had gotten in return for those $42 billion. That is where the focus must be. Not on What Trump thinks about this or that.

[Vayutuvan]

https://nordics.info/show/artikel/decla ... land-1916/

... America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland.

Robert Lansing.

New York, August 4, 1916

The question these days seems to be whether any agreement with the US is worth the paper it is written on.

A treaty that was signed more than a century ago. A treaty that makes Denmark the rightful owner of a large piece of land that belongs to the Inuit. That is colonization, whichever way you cut it.

[Vayutuvan]

What next, we will says earth is flat and that's why we are where we are? Truly a tinfoil moment.

Considering the religion of the mayor of London, British will say the earth is flat. All for a few votes more.

[Vayutuvan]

It doesn't make any sense. If aliens have reached the earth, and not done anything yet, then (a) they are far ahead of earth in technology and (b) any inimical designs on earth or humanity would likely have already manifested.

Men in Black.

[Amber G.]

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/11903903 ... ogics-uaps

Yup, I remember this entire drama in 2023, spilling over to 2024 elections, and our donny boy saying he will release the files post election.

FWIW - A Historic/physics note:

The famous “flying saucer” mystery around the Roswell incident actually has a solid physics backstory that was declassified much later. I’ve outlined the story and underlying physics in more detail in the BRF physics thread long ago. it was tied to Cold War efforts to detect Soviet nuclear tests using SOFAR (Sound Fixing and Ranging) waves, employing odd, saucer- or dish-shaped hardware (think old parabolic microphone plates) carried by balloon systems. These unusual objects were genuinely recovered and reported by the media at the time, but the technical details were later officially denied. What looked exotic in 1947/1950's was really early geophysics and nuclear-test monitoring tech.

(This physics is similar to those non-explosive SOFAR spheres (often called SOFAR bombs, though that name is misleading). They were thin-walled hollow spheres, typically glass/metal/ceramic, roughly ping-pong sized, filled with air. When dropped into the ocean, they sank until ambient pressure caused them to implode (“pop”) at a known depth.

That sudden implosion generated a sharp acoustic pulse that coupled efficiently into the SOFAR channel, allowing the sound to propagate thousands of kilometers — very similar to how whales exploit the same channel for long-range communication. No explosives, no detonators — just pressure, material strength, and ocean acoustics doing the work. Used to send SOS of pilots who were shot down in ocean. This was used by US Air Force - and remained classified even decades later ..enemy could not guess it because it had *no* electronic circuit /radio beam but will signal location of pilot minimalist use of physics for long-range signaling and location during WWII search-and-rescue.)
(For details see any reference)