https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timeso ... -ties/amp/
India -israel sign an fta . Surprising little coverage outside of Israeli media . Even Indian ddm not talking much about it .
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couple of actions in the recent past seem more disquieting than usual portents; i believe that the globalists jews are looking for a new nation either to subvert, or make it into their likeness for the future now that europe is long in the process of being hollowed out
that may explain why usual bait / newsportals have shown a distinctive indian slant quite recently, coupled with the below article
though our mango public cheers the israelis due to them spitting in the mohemeddan eye, and though we pay our tithe in terms of defence infrastructure understanding that their relationship with the leader of the free world may either be master-slave / parasite-host, it is more imperative than the others that this relationship be transactional
the entire article is full of red flags
https://www.realclearworld.com/articles ... 60451.html
also best that we be on okish terms with china if the flip side is dealing with duplicitous cuts thus scuttling the supposition of challenges and alignments in the first place
that may explain why usual bait / newsportals have shown a distinctive indian slant quite recently, coupled with the below article
though our mango public cheers the israelis due to them spitting in the mohemeddan eye, and though we pay our tithe in terms of defence infrastructure understanding that their relationship with the leader of the free world may either be master-slave / parasite-host, it is more imperative than the others that this relationship be transactional
the entire article is full of red flags
https://www.realclearworld.com/articles ... 60451.html
Taken together, these pressures compel Israel to reconsider how its alliances are structured – and to move from relationships of dependence toward relationships of interdependence.
With India confronting the Chinese specter and Israel seeking alliance diversification, a moment of convergence has emerged. Israel – possessing a unique and potent set of competitive advantages – can act as an “early investor” in India’s ascent, cultivating a degree of indispensability to a future superpower that is has not hitherto known.
As a small state, Israel is inherently constrained in the level of interdependence it can generate. But by acting deliberately it can embed itself within India’s decision-making architecture, so that at the moment of India’s superpower arrival it will have become an essential partner in a more durable alliance and secured greater autonomy. Crucially, this approach does not seek to erode India’s strategic autonomy. On the contrary, by strengthening India’s internal capacity and strategic coherence, it would enhance India’s autonomy as a fully realized great power.
Systemic indispensability rests on a simple asymmetry: the smaller state must possess non-scalable, high-leverage capabilities that the larger power cannot easily replicate. India’s advantages lie overwhelmingly in scale – its labor force, resources, digital platforms, and strategic geography. Its constraints are concentrated in execution: infrastructure delivery, innovation absorption, manufacturing quality, and complex systems integration.
Israel’s leverage lies precisely in these domains. Its strengths include precision technologies, short R&D cycles, advanced systems integration, and intelligence fusion. To date, these capabilities have underpinned cooperation in defense-grade AI, autonomous systems, cyber offense and defense, missile defense, desert agriculture, and water security. While technology transfer and co-production have brought the two countries close, a drive to systemic indispensability requires Israel to think in decades rather than transaction cycles. Because when India reaches superpower status, it will dwarf Israel in every quantitative metric, internalize capabilities, and learn fast. And since doctrine is far harder to replicate than hardware, Israel’s future focus should shift from arms sales toward policy co-formation.
can anybody translate what the absolute fuk is the above supposed to mean??The objective is not Indian policy capture, but the establishment of consultative norms, co-authored frameworks, and coordinated planning processes that shape how decisions are made at critical junctures like crises, escalations, and force-structure design. Core focus areas that are already primed for this type of cognitive embedding are Indian defense planning and doctrine; Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) fusion; missile defense doctrine; and border conflict management.
Indian resistance to deeper doctrinal imprinting from a small foreign power is foreseeable. Yet the magnitude of the China challenge and Israel’s unique alignment with India suggest a trade-off worth managing. Such concerns can also be addressed by ensuring that cognitive embedding is modular, domain-specific, and clearly bounded.
also best that we be on okish terms with china if the flip side is dealing with duplicitous cuts thus scuttling the supposition of challenges and alignments in the first place
Effectuating this level of integration requires sustained elite-to-elite engagement: Israeli participation within Indian policy and defense institutions, jointly authored classified doctrine, and permanent joint working groups. In technology and systems production, Israel should pursue institutional lock-in by making its contributions structurally difficult to replace. While India may diversify hardware suppliers, replacing Israeli software logic, iteration speed, and systems architecture would be far more difficult. This logic applies across air and missile defense, ISR systems, and AI-enabled platforms, where Israeli firms can plug directly into Indian procurement and doctrine cycles.
Beyond defense, Israel can play a catalytic role in transforming India’s industrial competitiveness. By providing manufacturing intelligence layers – advanced automation, rapid prototyping, and yield optimization – Israel can help build factory “nervous systems” that vastly improve efficiency, productivity, and export reliability. Similar systems-integration expertise can be applied to other areas critical to India’s ascension to superpower status, like power-grid resilience, food security, and water management. While India builds and operates the infrastructure, Israeli firms would provide the architectural logic that is far harder to substitute than physical components.
the israelis have the entire world as their playground courtesy the services of the 56%mutts, let not our blind hero worship of them lead to an eic2.0For Israel’s indispensability to endure, its advantage must remain cognitively dynamic and continuously adaptive. That means Israel must continue to transfer knowledge faster than India can replicate it while preserving an innovation edge through constant iteration. This is a demanding standard, but one Israel has sustained since its establishment – first through its “qualitative military edge” and more recently through a burgeoning qualitative technological edge.
An Israel–India partnership aimed at counterbalancing China is both feasible and strategically consequential. But with China already entrenched as one of the two global economic centers, India must catch up quick. An alliance grounded in interdependence would strengthen both states – accelerating India’s rise while granting Israel scale, strategic depth, and durable alliance security. Properly constructed, such interdependence would not dilute autonomy for either state, but anchor it.
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Indeed better to be lord of your shanty than co-master of the mansion.
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sanjaykumar wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 21:04 Indeed better to be lord of your shanty than co-master of the mansion.
sanjaykumar ji,
The britshits, the amrikis, the popery, jihadis (partially so far) and the commies via the russkis et al have already done this in one form or the other, over the years and by aligning with various heads of our state. The NE, TN and for some years now, the Indian punjab have all been their stomping grounds
Was the NAC a democratic or even an elected body or were they hoping that no one would notice when the Indian body politic was being actively subverted. The rusted "steel" frame was co opted right from 1947 onwards and it has now rotted beyond belief, as have the aged commies and their archaic ideology that was dumped in the dustbin of history. A few defanged and toothless specimens are still infesting the scenery but they are basically done for
Their paltu kuttas, the naxals have been sent packing and the urban varieties of these mongrels are looking for municipal shelters to hide in
This appears to be a blatant attempt to sow discord between India and israel, and this looks like the deep state in play, trying to make hay while there is a major disturbance in the world order due to a violent attack of piles that has upset the mental equilibrium of the amriki leadership.
We should wait and watch..............
JFK was the first prominent agenda of the deep state. Since then there have been two in India, not to mention many others in different geographies around the world
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The Chinese had no problem sharing a bedroom first with the USSR and then with the chief running dog of imperialism, or whatever their term of endearment was.
Is the Chinese brain nimbler than the Indian, that they flourished?
Whilst while someone else was doing the old gareeb khana sajana? While being self-congratulatory.
Is the Chinese brain nimbler than the Indian, that they flourished?
Whilst while someone else was doing the old gareeb khana sajana? While being self-congratulatory.
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Unlike the US which has the second largest resident Jewish population plus allows dual citizenship of US and Israel, India neither allows dual citizenship nor has any significant Jewish population.
In the absence of a native Jewish constituency relations with Israel for India is purely foreign affairs. Plus the Islamic aversion to Jews (to put it politely) and India’s demographics ensures that close relations will not be openly advertised.
So all that jargon is of least concern from my point of view.
In the absence of a native Jewish constituency relations with Israel for India is purely foreign affairs. Plus the Islamic aversion to Jews (to put it politely) and India’s demographics ensures that close relations will not be openly advertised.
So all that jargon is of least concern from my point of view.
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sanjaykumar wrote: ↑23 Jan 2026 22:39Whilst while someone else was doing the old gareeb khana sajana? While being self-congratulatory.The Chinese had no problem sharing a bedroom first with the USSR and then with the chief running dog of imperialism, or whatever their term of endearment was.
Is the Chinese brain nimbler than the Indian, that they flourished?
sanjaykumar ji,
India has been secretly meeting with the israelis since the 1960 or thereabouts and taking their help. A boss of mine was at several of these meetings over a longish period of time. It was quite mean of India of those days not to acknowledge these contacts
These meetings shifted between various countries so that they remained sub rosa
It was the right wing govts that brought it out into the open.
Now a days, Indian govts don't care too much about who gets pissed off or why
we are a relatively open country and so, unlike the cheen, we could not afford to agitate the so called minorities which were being regularly instigated by saudi or eyeraan, depending on which group was activated. These two @h0le countries literally ran our foreign policy to a largish extent by organizing street vetoes in the north (UP, bihar, cashmere, dilli etc) to pressurise the GoI and obtain a policy to benefit themselves
Today, both those countries know their aukat and step gingerly around India
That's basically how the jihadi money first started to flow into India, to buy and sustain the ability to organize street vetoes to have a say in whose oil was to be bought and for how much cost. Today the reasons a more demographic in nature
the cheen "flourished" by lying, cheating, threats and blackmail. This was not India's preferred route and so we have taken a much longer time and paid a higher cost. The cheen are still at it but India has been the one who pushed back at the use of such tactics against us.
It would be best not to talk of "nimble" brains or how the cheen "flourished". The rotten fruits of their labor are there for all the world to see
And the russkis were comfortably ensconced in the iron lady's drawing room, along with the cohort of russki paid commie political cuckolds and presstitutes, ............. how easily we forgot that one small fact.
do take a gander at the contents of the mitrokhin archives when you have the time
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Certainly the india of yore was constrained by Arab opinion. They were selling oil to India as a favour to the miskeen. The home domiciled arabs were very vocal about Jews and their evils, forgetting their own role in various two nation theories.
India has always tried to finesse relationships with blocks. Only now they can
a Mach 10 missile up where the desert sun don’t shine. And they have 5 trillion dollars backing up their displeasure.
Realpolitik means nothing is for ever.
India has always tried to finesse relationships with blocks. Only now they can
a Mach 10 missile up where the desert sun don’t shine. And they have 5 trillion dollars backing up their displeasure. Realpolitik means nothing is for ever.
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For context, recall India paid a 10% premium for the privilege of buying that oil.
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sanjaykumar ji,
few realize that @mir khan, who was seen in turkey with erdogan's family, is the great-grandnephew of the saudi madrassa "educated" India's first " Education Minister", maulana abul kalam azad.
AK is the most poisonous of the bollywood khans, followed closely by $h!trukh and all three khans have always been politically protected by the congi ecosystem
That viral photo of @K with erdogan's wife was a pointed message to the aman ki tamasha ecosystem
this maulana character becoming India's first " Education Minister" was no happenstance, especially when the britshit forced partition took place on religious lines
The seven or so "sickular" successors to the jihadi maulana, all of whom who jumped into the seat of the "education minister" of India with alacrity was whose agenda and why was it done. That was the weaponization of the jihadi agenda, aided and abetted by the BIF and implemented by their chosen "manchurian candidates", to lay the foundation of a second and vastly more virulent partition of India
The interference started even before that because a lot of "negotiations" and moolah transfers would have eased the way for such shameful political shenanigans, in complete disregard to India's so called independence.
the britshits slyly, brilliantly and malevolently bargained their way out of India without changing a single leaf of the divisive plants that they had painstakingly planted and nurtured within the body politic in the two centuries that they had occupied the land and minds of a subverted populace of India by using the vehicle of "manchurian candidates" aka britshit approved pawns that were thrown up by the jihadis from time to time to counter, temper and dilute the nationalistic fervour of the majority
we are still in the mindset of the 1940s when the britshits dug in and rooted themselves (BIF) in the very soil of India.
they set the stage well before they left.....
if it wasn't for 2014, ......................
don't miss the forest for the trees and go off looking for jewish conspiracies against India.
There is a globally coordinated and very specifically concerted move against the jews in general and israel in particular.
India too figures as a large target in this white and jihadi driven agenda of domination and geopolitical bondage.
This is neo-colonialism, but artfully camouflaged as "the rules based world order" where those who write the rules are also the judge, jury and at times the executioner of those errant stragglers slow to bow to the diktats of this new narrative
And the objective remains the same as the britshit set economic shackles of two centuries of extractive occupation and the serfdom of demographic change that would be dictated by them
That narrative is now being run in India hoping that Indians are gullible enough to swallow that agenda driven codswallop that is being served up as an alternate main course to go after Modi ji.
They haven't factored in the scenario of the murky and personality driven greed for power and pelf of India's grasping political families and other elites, not to mention the competing interests of the BIF itself
India, politically (and caste wise) is such a diversely complicated stormful entity that it is like playing 3D chess underwater in a fast flowing river that is very close to a niagara waterfall type of humongously turbulent white water rapids.
Moreover, if such an agenda became apparent, many of the politically dominant, BIF driven vote banks would weaponize themselves and attempt to correct the perceived "injustices" of 1947.
BTW, even the "nimble cheeni brain" didn't see what the britshits saw well before 1947, the inexorable rise of a resurgent India and today the world sees it.
Some like israel rejoice, but most of the jihadis and the goras (not to forget the cheen) weep
few realize that @mir khan, who was seen in turkey with erdogan's family, is the great-grandnephew of the saudi madrassa "educated" India's first " Education Minister", maulana abul kalam azad.
AK is the most poisonous of the bollywood khans, followed closely by $h!trukh and all three khans have always been politically protected by the congi ecosystem
That viral photo of @K with erdogan's wife was a pointed message to the aman ki tamasha ecosystem
this maulana character becoming India's first " Education Minister" was no happenstance, especially when the britshit forced partition took place on religious lines
The seven or so "sickular" successors to the jihadi maulana, all of whom who jumped into the seat of the "education minister" of India with alacrity was whose agenda and why was it done. That was the weaponization of the jihadi agenda, aided and abetted by the BIF and implemented by their chosen "manchurian candidates", to lay the foundation of a second and vastly more virulent partition of India
The interference started even before that because a lot of "negotiations" and moolah transfers would have eased the way for such shameful political shenanigans, in complete disregard to India's so called independence.
the britshits slyly, brilliantly and malevolently bargained their way out of India without changing a single leaf of the divisive plants that they had painstakingly planted and nurtured within the body politic in the two centuries that they had occupied the land and minds of a subverted populace of India by using the vehicle of "manchurian candidates" aka britshit approved pawns that were thrown up by the jihadis from time to time to counter, temper and dilute the nationalistic fervour of the majority
we are still in the mindset of the 1940s when the britshits dug in and rooted themselves (BIF) in the very soil of India.
they set the stage well before they left.....
if it wasn't for 2014, ......................
don't miss the forest for the trees and go off looking for jewish conspiracies against India.
There is a globally coordinated and very specifically concerted move against the jews in general and israel in particular.
India too figures as a large target in this white and jihadi driven agenda of domination and geopolitical bondage.
This is neo-colonialism, but artfully camouflaged as "the rules based world order" where those who write the rules are also the judge, jury and at times the executioner of those errant stragglers slow to bow to the diktats of this new narrative
And the objective remains the same as the britshit set economic shackles of two centuries of extractive occupation and the serfdom of demographic change that would be dictated by them
That narrative is now being run in India hoping that Indians are gullible enough to swallow that agenda driven codswallop that is being served up as an alternate main course to go after Modi ji.
They haven't factored in the scenario of the murky and personality driven greed for power and pelf of India's grasping political families and other elites, not to mention the competing interests of the BIF itself
India, politically (and caste wise) is such a diversely complicated stormful entity that it is like playing 3D chess underwater in a fast flowing river that is very close to a niagara waterfall type of humongously turbulent white water rapids.
Moreover, if such an agenda became apparent, many of the politically dominant, BIF driven vote banks would weaponize themselves and attempt to correct the perceived "injustices" of 1947.
BTW, even the "nimble cheeni brain" didn't see what the britshits saw well before 1947, the inexorable rise of a resurgent India and today the world sees it.
Some like israel rejoice, but most of the jihadis and the goras (not to forget the cheen) weep
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One Global Ideological War, Israel and India on the Same Front | Rajiv Malhotra
Infinity Foundation Official
Feb 24, 2026
Two of the world’s oldest surviving civilizations, Jews and Hindus, are facing rising hostility in the modern world. From campus activism to media narratives, from DEI politics to radical Islamism, both communities are increasingly portrayed as privileged oppressors while their historical suffering and civilizational depth are ignored. At the same time, global ideological movements, from woke Marxism to political Islam, are reshaping public discourse in ways that challenge national sovereignty, meritocracy, and religious identity.
He explains how both traditions survived centuries of persecution without a mandate to conquer others. He examines the strength of oral tradition, the central role of family and education in sustaining continuity, and why meritocracy has become controversial within today’s ideological climate. Through his analysis, the pressures facing both communities appear not as isolated incidents but as part of a broader ideological pattern.
Infinity Foundation Official
Feb 24, 2026
Two of the world’s oldest surviving civilizations, Jews and Hindus, are facing rising hostility in the modern world. From campus activism to media narratives, from DEI politics to radical Islamism, both communities are increasingly portrayed as privileged oppressors while their historical suffering and civilizational depth are ignored. At the same time, global ideological movements, from woke Marxism to political Islam, are reshaping public discourse in ways that challenge national sovereignty, meritocracy, and religious identity.
He explains how both traditions survived centuries of persecution without a mandate to conquer others. He examines the strength of oral tradition, the central role of family and education in sustaining continuity, and why meritocracy has become controversial within today’s ideological climate. Through his analysis, the pressures facing both communities appear not as isolated incidents but as part of a broader ideological pattern.
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Wow! - PM Shri Modiji in Israel:
I also carry with me the deepest condolences of the people of India for every life lost, and for every family whose world was shattered in the barbaric terrorist attack by Hamas on October 7.
We feel your pain. We share your grief. India stands with Israel firmly, with full conviction in this moment and beyond.
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"This is smart design. Gives a feel of our national emblem."- Credit to our talented designer Daniel Feigal (Jerusulam Post)
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Israel is going a bit overboard with their wooing of India and Modiji. While there have always been strong ties between both countries, this triple red carpet from BN who is losing support internally, in Europe and has to deal with an unpredictable OM means he needs friends urgently.
There's more to this story that what's being shared officially me thinks...
There's more to this story that what's being shared officially me thinks...
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Loved this one. Infact it is exactly the opposite to the wish/demand of the Indian "progressive liberal secular" cabal - Priyanka Gandhi Urges PM Modi To Raise Gaza Genocide In Knesset Address During Israel VisitI also carry with me the deepest condolences of the people of India for every life lost, and for every family whose world was shattered in the barbaric terrorist attack by Hamas on October 7.
.Could it to be to dump/sell some weapon systems which may not be ase useful to them now (than earlier)?Cyrano wrote:Israel is going a bit overboard with their wooing of India and Modiji.
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Foreign relations typically are and should be transactional at core with self interest at heart .
That being said , I truly believe that Israel like India is a civilizational state and we get each other . That's why the warm hospitality. Those who have visited Israel know how warm they are to Indians in general. Far cry from euro-chutiyas .
I think there are very deep transactional , geographic,geopolitical and even spiritual reasons they are being apparently very overboard .
At a transactional level they want the FTA . Honestly it's a win win . They want to "India - wash " their product . ie manufacture or screw driver their stuff in India so it gets made in India label and export it the parts of the world Israeli products are banned or frowned upon . Besides sell in Indian domestic market . Both industrial and agriculture stuff . Turns out there is no other country that fits their needs but India . Besides India and the us no large country has been their reliable partner.
There is the selling of weapon systems for sure and they have been aggressive at that. One needs to be careful there and make sure that we don't kill indigenous programs that often match or exceed imported maal.
At a geographic level IMEC will be very lucrative for them .
At geopolitical level they have been ostracized by euro-morons and even in the us popular support for them is waning . India is practically the only country where they enjoy popular support .
Also common enemies yada yada . Like the Turks ..
There is an undeniable spiritual aspect . 15-20% of Israel has visited India atleast once and number would likely increase. They do have a connect I don't see with other people. I guess there is some connection among the 2 oldest continuously surviving civilizations .
I've been there a few times and apart from India the only place that feels like home .
While we must obviously be very transactional and not let guard down by the overboard hospitality , I think there is a genuine aspect in this case.
That being said , I truly believe that Israel like India is a civilizational state and we get each other . That's why the warm hospitality. Those who have visited Israel know how warm they are to Indians in general. Far cry from euro-chutiyas .
I think there are very deep transactional , geographic,geopolitical and even spiritual reasons they are being apparently very overboard .
At a transactional level they want the FTA . Honestly it's a win win . They want to "India - wash " their product . ie manufacture or screw driver their stuff in India so it gets made in India label and export it the parts of the world Israeli products are banned or frowned upon . Besides sell in Indian domestic market . Both industrial and agriculture stuff . Turns out there is no other country that fits their needs but India . Besides India and the us no large country has been their reliable partner.
There is the selling of weapon systems for sure and they have been aggressive at that. One needs to be careful there and make sure that we don't kill indigenous programs that often match or exceed imported maal.
At a geographic level IMEC will be very lucrative for them .
At geopolitical level they have been ostracized by euro-morons and even in the us popular support for them is waning . India is practically the only country where they enjoy popular support .
Also common enemies yada yada . Like the Turks ..
There is an undeniable spiritual aspect . 15-20% of Israel has visited India atleast once and number would likely increase. They do have a connect I don't see with other people. I guess there is some connection among the 2 oldest continuously surviving civilizations .
I've been there a few times and apart from India the only place that feels like home .
While we must obviously be very transactional and not let guard down by the overboard hospitality , I think there is a genuine aspect in this case.
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It's more than that.
The shrewd Israelis think & strategize for decades into the future. Their inherent shatrubodh is much higher than anyone - rightly so IMO. And their absolute willingness to act to safeguard their land and people borders on what others might label as unscrupulous.
The want to embed their systems into friends and foes alike. With their systems they also get to insert spyware (to observe/analyse) and malware (to destroy) into the host system & network, should they pose a threat to Israel in the future.
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Absolutely,you got it right. Mossads biggest operation s are in its biggest ally the US ! .. so India becomes a target as wellManish_P wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 09:23It's more than that.
The shrewd Israelis think & strategize for decades into the future. Their inherent shatrubodh is much higher than anyone - rightly so IMO. And their absolute willingness to act to safeguard their land and people borders on what others might label as unscrupulous.
The want to embed their systems into friends and foes alike. With their systems they also get to insert spyware (to observe/analyse) and malware (to destroy) into the host system & network, should they pose a threat to Israel in the future.
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+1gakakkad wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 08:56 Foreign relations typically are and should be transactional at core with self interest at heart .
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At a transactional level they want the FTA . Honestly it's a win win . They want to "India - wash " their product . ie manufacture or screw driver their stuff in India so it gets made in India label and export it the parts of the world Israeli products are banned or frowned upon .
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There is the selling of weapon systems for sure and they have been aggressive at that. One needs to be careful there and make sure that we don't kill indigenous programs that often match or exceed imported maal.
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At a geographic level IMEC will be very lucrative for them .
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At geopolitical level they have been ostracized by euro-morons and even in the us popular support for them is waning. India is practically the only country where they enjoy popular support .
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Well summarized
I would like to request including (and clarifying) some 1-2 more points
1) Higher Education - Will Israel be a good place for higher education for Indian students. Not on the scale of what the US is but with progressive expansion of ties. Israel can set-up/partner with indian education to setup centres/ extensions of their institutes here in India
2) Workforce - Skilled/semi-skilled labour from india can work on infra/agri projects in Israel. An initiative was made recently. That can be expanded and fine-tuned as Israel faces a population decline
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I don't get this. Why so much fascination to go abroad for higher studies? Partnership with institutes is fine.
Instead of just sending our Agri workers to earn a wage the focus should be to learn water usage and yield optimisation techniques. Not sure what ICRISAT and WALAMTARI etc are doing these days. They should be at the fore front of such tech absorption and dissemination.
H1B / WP world is gone bhailog.
Instead of just sending our Agri workers to earn a wage the focus should be to learn water usage and yield optimisation techniques. Not sure what ICRISAT and WALAMTARI etc are doing these days. They should be at the fore front of such tech absorption and dissemination.
H1B / WP world is gone bhailog.
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Here are a few examples of one reason, in one field -
https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/m ... 76995.html
https://medicaldrafts.com/neet-pg-2025- ... e-in-india
https://thesouthfirst.com/health/studen ... standards/
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Med PG students going abroad is a very small % of those who go abroad for studies. IMO it's mostly engg, sciences, math and humanities of late, and they come from all categories, not just GCs.
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https://x.com/i/status/2026737865372348922
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Hamas terrorists killed 10 Nepali Hindu students on 7 October 2023 in Israel :
Ashish, Ganesh, Padam, Dinesh, Anand, Rajesh, Narayan, Pravesh, Rajan, and Lokendra.
Hamas abducted Bipin Joshi, held him captive for months, did not release him but brutally killed him in captivity.
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Hamas terrorists killed 10 Nepali Hindu students on 7 October 2023 in Israel :
Ashish, Ganesh, Padam, Dinesh, Anand, Rajesh, Narayan, Pravesh, Rajan, and Lokendra.
Hamas abducted Bipin Joshi, held him captive for months, did not release him but brutally killed him in captivity.
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https://x.com/AskAnshul/status/2026692258175844428
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PM Modi condemns terrorist attack by Hamas on 7th October 2023.
"I also carry with me the deepest condolences of the people of India for every life lost and for every family whose world was shattered in the barbaric terrorist attack by Hamas on October 7. We feel your pain, we share your grief. India stands with Israel firmly, with full conviction in this moment and beyond." ~ PM Modi
@AskAnshul
PM Modi condemns terrorist attack by Hamas on 7th October 2023.
"I also carry with me the deepest condolences of the people of India for every life lost and for every family whose world was shattered in the barbaric terrorist attack by Hamas on October 7. We feel your pain, we share your grief. India stands with Israel firmly, with full conviction in this moment and beyond." ~ PM Modi
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https://x.com/UnSubtleDesi/status/2026704506701099033
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Exactly 2 years ago I was in Israel. I visited Kfar Aza, the Kibbutz worst hit by Hamas. We were made to wear bullet proof vests and taken in several homes, blood stained, torn up, shattered, bullet ridden. Some had shattered toys & bassinets. Some, the memory of a newly wed couple. Others, of the joy of youth. It lay in ruins. I could smell the burnt wood. I could smell decay. I could sense the unimaginable violence.
Today, as my Prime Minister reaffirms our support to the victims of terror, and recounts how we have been victims too, I feel proud to be his supporter.
@UnSubtleDesi
Exactly 2 years ago I was in Israel. I visited Kfar Aza, the Kibbutz worst hit by Hamas. We were made to wear bullet proof vests and taken in several homes, blood stained, torn up, shattered, bullet ridden. Some had shattered toys & bassinets. Some, the memory of a newly wed couple. Others, of the joy of youth. It lay in ruins. I could smell the burnt wood. I could smell decay. I could sense the unimaginable violence.
Today, as my Prime Minister reaffirms our support to the victims of terror, and recounts how we have been victims too, I feel proud to be his supporter.
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for a dynastie that always ran/runs on autocracy, auntie has confused the words hypocrisy and democracy
Priyanka Gandhi Vadra@priyankagandhi
I hope that the Hon Prime Minister @narendramodi ji mentions the genocide of thousands of innocent men, women and children in Gaza while addressing the Knesset on his upcoming trip to Israel and demands justice for them.
India has stood for what is right throughout our history as an independent nation, we must continue to show the light of truth, peace and justice to the world.
Rashmi Samant@RashmiDVS· Feb 25
People who hesitate to acknowledge the genocide of Kashmiri Pandits in India are demanding that the Indian Prime Minister lecture Israel in the Israeli Parliament
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India–Israel–Hexagon: Redefining Regional Security - Mr Sree Iyer, Lt Gen P R Shankar
26 Feb, 2026
India and Israel are moving closer — but this time inside a broader Hexagon framework involving key global powers. What does this mean for Asia, the Middle East, and India’s strategic autonomy? Is a new regional security architecture quietly taking shape?
One of the key thing in this visit, is Israel and India relationship stands on its own, no Arabs, no palestine, no more neighbor to the west or east.
26 Feb, 2026
India and Israel are moving closer — but this time inside a broader Hexagon framework involving key global powers. What does this mean for Asia, the Middle East, and India’s strategic autonomy? Is a new regional security architecture quietly taking shape?
One of the key thing in this visit, is Israel and India relationship stands on its own, no Arabs, no palestine, no more neighbor to the west or east.
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The point was about reservations in general. They are not confined to one stream. And they have been here for decades so that the students of that time are the teachers of today.
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Cyrano wrote: ↑26 Feb 2026 13:27 I don't get this. Why so much fascination to go abroad for higher studies? Partnership with institutes is fine.
Instead of just sending our Agri workers to earn a wage the focus should be to learn water usage and yield optimisation techniques. Not sure what ICRISAT and WALAMTARI etc are doing these days. They should be at the fore front of such tech absorption and dissemination.
H1B / WP world is gone bhailog.
point well taken. especially dveloping desi madarrsas and bringing them to top notch level in research. iisc and iit are too few . and asides from iisc, tifr and hand ful of others few top notch research instis..
that said there are niche institues .. Like Princeton -IAS for abstract math or Caltech-JPL for jet propulsion or Paris-saclay for Math or CERN for particle physics. India does have such niche like JNCASR for advance material..
where israel comes in is Technion/Weizman and Tel aviv univrtsity have specialized niche expertise in advance electronics / Computational biology / specific areas of material science (quasi crystals for eg) . many indians go there for PhD and post doc...
development of Indian research institute is different topic and not within the scope of indian foreign relations with israel..
however there is a lot we can learn from them...
i am very enthusiastic about what the future will hold.
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Israel, US launch attack on Iran; Ayatollah leaves Tehran
Utkarsh Mishra, February 28, 2026
Israel launched a preventive missile attack against Iran on Saturday, as reported by TPS. Citizens were advised to seek shelter after the Israel Defence Forces said sirens were sounded across the country as a proactive alert for the possibility of missiles being launched towards Israel.
TPS further reported that Defence Minister Israel Katz said the pre-emptive strikes were carried out to remove threats to the country.
The IDF called on the public to stay in proximity to protected spaces.
Iran's Supreme Leader taken to 'secure location'
The report further said that Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is not in Tehran and has been transferred to a 'secure location', according to an Iranian official who spoke to Reuters.
The IDF also said that following a situational assessment, immediate changes were made to the Home Front Command guidelines, shifting all areas of the country from Full Activity to Essential Activity.
The guidelines prohibit educational activities, gatherings, and workplace operations, except in essential sectors.
Iranian state media reported explosions in the capital, Tehran.
According to TPS, Defence Minister Katz declared an immediate nationwide special state of emergency under Israel's Civil Defense Law, warning that a missile and drone attack against Israeli territory and civilians is expected in the immediate timeframe.
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Gautam
Also:
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/air- ... 260228.htm
Air India flight diverted as Israel shuts airspace
Utkarsh Mishra, February 28, 2026
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Israel, US launch attack on Iran; Ayatollah leaves Tehran
Utkarsh Mishra, February 28, 2026
Israel launched a preventive missile attack against Iran on Saturday, as reported by TPS. Citizens were advised to seek shelter after the Israel Defence Forces said sirens were sounded across the country as a proactive alert for the possibility of missiles being launched towards Israel.
TPS further reported that Defence Minister Israel Katz said the pre-emptive strikes were carried out to remove threats to the country.
The IDF called on the public to stay in proximity to protected spaces.
Iran's Supreme Leader taken to 'secure location'
The report further said that Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is not in Tehran and has been transferred to a 'secure location', according to an Iranian official who spoke to Reuters.
The IDF also said that following a situational assessment, immediate changes were made to the Home Front Command guidelines, shifting all areas of the country from Full Activity to Essential Activity.
The guidelines prohibit educational activities, gatherings, and workplace operations, except in essential sectors.
Iranian state media reported explosions in the capital, Tehran.
According to TPS, Defence Minister Katz declared an immediate nationwide special state of emergency under Israel's Civil Defense Law, warning that a missile and drone attack against Israeli territory and civilians is expected in the immediate timeframe.
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Gautam
Also:
https://www.rediff.com/news/report/air- ... 260228.htm
Air India flight diverted as Israel shuts airspace
Utkarsh Mishra, February 28, 2026
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Modi's Israel visit under fire as US-Israel strike Iran
Sat, 28 February 2026
The Opposition on Saturday slammed Prime Minister Narendra Modi's recent visit to Israel as the US and Israel launched military attacks on Iran.
The Congress termed Modi's visit to Israel "shameful" and "ill-timed," saying it creates the perception of a political endorsement of military escalation which is deeply antithetical to India's historic commitment to a rules-based international order.
In a statement, Salman Khurshid, Chairman of the Congress Foreign Affairs Department, said the Congress is "deeply concerned" at Modi's visit to Israel from February 25 to 26 at a moment of heightened tensions, a breakout of hostilities and the palpable risk of wider conflict and the palpable risk of wider conflict in West Asia.
US President Donald Trump on Saturday announced that his country has begun "major combat operations in Iran" after Israel launched strikes.
The Congress said Modi's visit is "particularly ill-timed" because it creates a perception of partisan alignment and tacit endorsement of unprovoked aggression could have grave strategic consequences. It also said it risks conveying alignment with and endorsement of an incumbent government ahead of national elections.
"Prime Minister Modi's visit at this juncture creates the perception of a political endorsement of military escalation, which is deeply antithetical to India's historic commitment to a rules-based international order and the United Nations Charter-particularly the prohibition on the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State (Article 2 [4]) and the peaceful settlement of disputes (Article 2 [3])," Khurshid said.
Congress general secretary, communications, Jairam Ramesh also that two days after Modi "celebrated his visit to Israel", Israel and the US began their joint assault on Iran.
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Gautam
Modi's Israel visit under fire as US-Israel strike Iran
Sat, 28 February 2026
The Opposition on Saturday slammed Prime Minister Narendra Modi's recent visit to Israel as the US and Israel launched military attacks on Iran.
The Congress termed Modi's visit to Israel "shameful" and "ill-timed," saying it creates the perception of a political endorsement of military escalation which is deeply antithetical to India's historic commitment to a rules-based international order.
In a statement, Salman Khurshid, Chairman of the Congress Foreign Affairs Department, said the Congress is "deeply concerned" at Modi's visit to Israel from February 25 to 26 at a moment of heightened tensions, a breakout of hostilities and the palpable risk of wider conflict and the palpable risk of wider conflict in West Asia.
US President Donald Trump on Saturday announced that his country has begun "major combat operations in Iran" after Israel launched strikes.
The Congress said Modi's visit is "particularly ill-timed" because it creates a perception of partisan alignment and tacit endorsement of unprovoked aggression could have grave strategic consequences. It also said it risks conveying alignment with and endorsement of an incumbent government ahead of national elections.
"Prime Minister Modi's visit at this juncture creates the perception of a political endorsement of military escalation, which is deeply antithetical to India's historic commitment to a rules-based international order and the United Nations Charter-particularly the prohibition on the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State (Article 2 [4]) and the peaceful settlement of disputes (Article 2 [3])," Khurshid said.
Congress general secretary, communications, Jairam Ramesh also that two days after Modi "celebrated his visit to Israel", Israel and the US began their joint assault on Iran.
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Gautam
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Rediff is one of the most pro-Congress news outletg.sarkar wrote: ↑28 Feb 2026 22:28 https://m.rediff.com/news/commentary/20 ... YwJGwwJGgw
Modi's Israel visit under fire as US-Israel strike Iran
Sat, 28 February 2026
The Opposition on Saturday slammed Prime Minister Narendra Modi's recent visit to Israel as the US and Israel launched military attacks on Iran.
The Congress termed Modi's visit to Israel "shameful" and "ill-timed," saying it creates the perception of a political endorsement of military escalation which is deeply antithetical to India's historic commitment to a rules-based international order.
In a statement, Salman Khurshid, Chairman of the Congress Foreign Affairs Department, said the Congress is "deeply concerned" at Modi's visit to Israel from February 25 to 26 at a moment of heightened tensions, a breakout of hostilities and the palpable risk of wider conflict and the palpable risk of wider conflict in West Asia.
US President Donald Trump on Saturday announced that his country has begun "major combat operations in Iran" after Israel launched strikes.
The Congress said Modi's visit is "particularly ill-timed" because it creates a perception of partisan alignment and tacit endorsement of unprovoked aggression could have grave strategic consequences. It also said it risks conveying alignment with and endorsement of an incumbent government ahead of national elections.
"Prime Minister Modi's visit at this juncture creates the perception of a political endorsement of military escalation, which is deeply antithetical to India's historic commitment to a rules-based international order and the United Nations Charter-particularly the prohibition on the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State (Article 2 [4]) and the peaceful settlement of disputes (Article 2 [3])," Khurshid said.
Congress general secretary, communications, Jairam Ramesh also that two days after Modi "celebrated his visit to Israel", Israel and the US began their joint assault on Iran.
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Gautam
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I see a fringe section of right wing Indian Twitter not particularly happy about the Ayatollah pig meeting his 72 . Thats based on misconceptions. Some of those people are russophiles and somehow believe Russia and Iran are close . Also the misconception stems from some remote minor collaborations Iranian forces may have had with raw against Sunni terrorists . Also the port . There may be a section in government who has some relations to India .
Ayatollah was a classic piglet . He had no love lost for yindoos or bharat . Irgc tried bombing Israeli embassy in Delhi . Further Hamid ansari was their mole who passed along stage secrets to them when he was the veep.
The only reason we don't have shia terrorism in India is because Shia in India are wealthier compared to Sunni and many run businesses . You won't get local support when the local population is relatively well off. Further the Shia in India for most part , with exceptions of the fringe in kashmir are fairly moderate or even irreligious token Muslims . I know a dude who is friends with modi , drinks in private and has even been to Israel . Won't name him obviously . Further Iran never had the financial muscle to pull off all that in India. If they could do it believe me they would .
Other thing stems from the fact that that we have leveraged porki pig headedness against Shia to screw them over there and there may have been tacit assistance from Iran. Those connections can be used even now . Further there is an ethnic component to it .
Lastly we did use them to ship weapons to Armenia. Pretty sure that can still be done .
Overall India needs to make sure that it has a stake in whoever forms the new government in Iran . It you aren't at the table you are the menu .
I think a de-islamised Iran that goes pack to its Zoroastrian traditions is in interest of the whole world . Especially that of India .
Ayatollah was a classic piglet . He had no love lost for yindoos or bharat . Irgc tried bombing Israeli embassy in Delhi . Further Hamid ansari was their mole who passed along stage secrets to them when he was the veep.
The only reason we don't have shia terrorism in India is because Shia in India are wealthier compared to Sunni and many run businesses . You won't get local support when the local population is relatively well off. Further the Shia in India for most part , with exceptions of the fringe in kashmir are fairly moderate or even irreligious token Muslims . I know a dude who is friends with modi , drinks in private and has even been to Israel . Won't name him obviously . Further Iran never had the financial muscle to pull off all that in India. If they could do it believe me they would .
Other thing stems from the fact that that we have leveraged porki pig headedness against Shia to screw them over there and there may have been tacit assistance from Iran. Those connections can be used even now . Further there is an ethnic component to it .
Lastly we did use them to ship weapons to Armenia. Pretty sure that can still be done .
Overall India needs to make sure that it has a stake in whoever forms the new government in Iran . It you aren't at the table you are the menu .
I think a de-islamised Iran that goes pack to its Zoroastrian traditions is in interest of the whole world . Especially that of India .
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What Ben-Gurion understood in 1950 and Modi is delivering in 2026
India’s recognition of Israel was a long-term investment: not a political embrace, but a pragmatic determination that Israel was a fact in the international system.
Lauren Dagan Amoss, March 1, 2026
In the 1950s, Ben-Gurion was looking ahead, beyond the immediate diplomatic moment. There is evidence that he viewed India as a future great power that would eventually awaken, and that when that moment arrived, it would matter that Israel was already present, recognised, and understood, before the international system settled into a new set of rules.
India’s recognition of Israel on 17 September 1950 was precisely a long-term investment: not a political embrace, but a pragmatic determination that Israel was a fact in the international system. It did not erase India’s historically pro-Palestinian instinct, but it opened a door, and that door became a long corridor leading from 1950 to 1992, to 2017, and to the inflexion point of 2026.
In 1992, India and Israel established full diplomatic relations; in 2017, Modi took the first major public step, moving the relationship out of closed rooms and into the open; and in 2026, he is no longer merely “sustaining a relationship” but trying to convert it into a strategic asset with measurable outputs. That is the deeper meaning of his most recent visit to Israel: no longer a relationship anchored primarily in defence procurement, but an architecture of capability partnership development, production, technology, and coordination mechanisms. This was reflected officially in the language of upgrading ties and in the signing of a broad set of understandings and documents, including security-technology components.
This is the angle Israeli audiences need to grasp: India did not “fall in love with Israel”; it is building an instrument of power. India’s defence establishment faces a multi-front threat environment (Pakistan, China, terrorism), and its central lesson in recent years is that national resilience is built through a combination of technological edge, domestic industry, intelligence, and calibrated deterrence. That is why Modi and his system are not looking only for “weapons systems,” but for the capacity to produce, sustain, and upgrade precisely the language of advanced defence partnerships. The same logic appears in the public narrative of the visit: strengthening defence cooperation, innovation, cyber, and artificial intelligence.
Then comes the paradox that frustrates Israelis: how can the same India strengthen Israel in the security domain while simultaneously voting differently or joining critical wording in international forums? The answer is not hypocrisy; it is de-hyphenation in the Indian model. India has detached itself from the “Palestinian ceiling” that for decades prevented an open, fully realised relationship with Israel but it has not abandoned the principle it consistently declares: support for a two-state solution. In the context of the 2026 visit, this was particularly visible: a week before the visit, India joined a UN statement condemning Israeli actions perceived as expanding Israel’s presence in the West Bank.
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Gautam
What Ben-Gurion understood in 1950 and Modi is delivering in 2026
India’s recognition of Israel was a long-term investment: not a political embrace, but a pragmatic determination that Israel was a fact in the international system.
Lauren Dagan Amoss, March 1, 2026
In the 1950s, Ben-Gurion was looking ahead, beyond the immediate diplomatic moment. There is evidence that he viewed India as a future great power that would eventually awaken, and that when that moment arrived, it would matter that Israel was already present, recognised, and understood, before the international system settled into a new set of rules.
India’s recognition of Israel on 17 September 1950 was precisely a long-term investment: not a political embrace, but a pragmatic determination that Israel was a fact in the international system. It did not erase India’s historically pro-Palestinian instinct, but it opened a door, and that door became a long corridor leading from 1950 to 1992, to 2017, and to the inflexion point of 2026.
In 1992, India and Israel established full diplomatic relations; in 2017, Modi took the first major public step, moving the relationship out of closed rooms and into the open; and in 2026, he is no longer merely “sustaining a relationship” but trying to convert it into a strategic asset with measurable outputs. That is the deeper meaning of his most recent visit to Israel: no longer a relationship anchored primarily in defence procurement, but an architecture of capability partnership development, production, technology, and coordination mechanisms. This was reflected officially in the language of upgrading ties and in the signing of a broad set of understandings and documents, including security-technology components.
This is the angle Israeli audiences need to grasp: India did not “fall in love with Israel”; it is building an instrument of power. India’s defence establishment faces a multi-front threat environment (Pakistan, China, terrorism), and its central lesson in recent years is that national resilience is built through a combination of technological edge, domestic industry, intelligence, and calibrated deterrence. That is why Modi and his system are not looking only for “weapons systems,” but for the capacity to produce, sustain, and upgrade precisely the language of advanced defence partnerships. The same logic appears in the public narrative of the visit: strengthening defence cooperation, innovation, cyber, and artificial intelligence.
Then comes the paradox that frustrates Israelis: how can the same India strengthen Israel in the security domain while simultaneously voting differently or joining critical wording in international forums? The answer is not hypocrisy; it is de-hyphenation in the Indian model. India has detached itself from the “Palestinian ceiling” that for decades prevented an open, fully realised relationship with Israel but it has not abandoned the principle it consistently declares: support for a two-state solution. In the context of the 2026 visit, this was particularly visible: a week before the visit, India joined a UN statement condemning Israeli actions perceived as expanding Israel’s presence in the West Bank.
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Gautam