Understanding the US - Again

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 10 Feb 2026 00:00

A_Gupta wrote: ↑09 Feb 2026 14:20 India imported $40 billion goods from the US in 2024. To do $500 billion in five years it would have to grow 30% per year. Not likely to happen.

In less than 3 years Trump will be gone! 5 Years are .........

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 10 Feb 2026 00:00

williams wrote: ↑09 Feb 2026 23:21
To have ambition is good but we should also know our aukat.

Whatever gave you the idea that India and amrika are rivals......
Rivalry does not mean we are equals in terms of comprehensive national power. But the fact remains, they are apprehensive of India's strides in many fields and are treating us as rivals whether we like it or not. A simple thing like supply of aircraft engine has become a point of contention. Then where is the question of trust. People to people contact is a misnomer. They want to fill in their labor shortages and we are filling it in (Thanks to the commie congi policies of building a merit-less society). In the side we have become a market for their goods. That is the way they see it. It is no different when our people went to Burma and Srilanka to work during the days of the Raj and are chased out when things are not comfortable to their people. Trump actually cleared the delusion we had about this relationship.

Good points, saar.

Cyrano · Post by **Cyrano** » 10 Feb 2026 00:39

S_Madhukar · Post by **S_Madhukar** » 10 Feb 2026 05:31

On a lighter note, I happened to watch the Super Bowl show on YT and was wondering to ask los Amigos of Estados Unidos, is the Donroe doctrine taking over America or are the Latinos taking over America? Whatever bum shaking classical all-American dance and barely understandable lyrics of an unknown genre I heard, I liked it and I hope they swamp Estados Unidos to the utter takleef of the OM crowd. I mean I will take a Jessica Alba any day over the first lady!

bala · Post by **bala** » 10 Feb 2026 07:42

Tom Llamas exclusive with President Trump

In an extended interview with NBC News’ Tom Llamas, President Donald Trump addresses immigration enforcement, the American economy, U.S. tensions with Iran, Joe Rogan, AI and other topics from the Oval Office.

// sometimes it makes sense to hear from the horse's mouth rather than all the news headlines and cute one-liners that are floating around in the internet world.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:01

Transcript https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/tra ... ry-4-2026/

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:04

“Oh, I'd say we're there now. I'm -- I'm very proud of it, 5.6%. You know, we have a GDP of 5.6 despite a shutdown.”

—- 5.4% in Q4 2025, after 4.4-4.9% in Q3

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:06

“$18 trillion is being invested in our country as we speak. And there are factories and plants and thousands of businesses being built all over the country.”

— no comment, the $18 trillion speaks for itself.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:12

“But -- the numbers -- the crime numbers in Minnesota, in Minneapolis in particular, are down 25, 30% because we've removed thousands of criminals from the area.”

Minneapolis crime dashboard, doesn’t allow connections from India to view the dashboards.

https://www.minneapolismn.gov/governmen ... dashboard/

From elsewhere:
Homicides: Decreased in 2025 (64) from 2024 (77).
Carjackings: Down 73% in 2025.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:18

“$1.99 a gallon of gasoline”

Not Statewide: As of early 2026, no state has a statewide average of $1.99, with many, such as Oklahoma and Texas, having averages in the $2.30–$2.40 range.

Promotional/Specific Locations: The sub-$2 prices often apply to specific stations (e.g., Sam's Club, Costco) or specialized, limited-time promotions.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:20

“But I think, you know, I'm a smart guy. I know the economy better than almost everybody.”

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 09:22

“A mere fraction — just 14 percent — of the immigrants arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement during the first year of President Trump’s mass deportation effort had previously been convicted of or charged with violent criminal offenses, CBS News reported Monday, citing a Department of Homeland Security report that the news outlet obtained.

The statistics obviously run counter to the Trump administration’s ongoing claims that it is only targeting the “worst of the worst” as part of its inhumane immigration enforcement in (mostly) blue areas across the country.”

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 10 Feb 2026 12:43

^If these migrants are there illegally are they not already committing an offence? India's SC said the same of Rohingya's did it not?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 728314.cms

williams · Post by **williams** » 10 Feb 2026 13:10

Lisa wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 12:43 ^If these migrants are there illegally are they not already committing an offence? India's SC said the same of Rohingya's did it not?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 728314.cms

Yes that is the point of current Admin. But there are problems. The previous regimes turned a blind eye on these laws and more people came in. Now reversing that and enforcing the law is turning emotionally ugly. Now remember some of the southern states have a large number of Hispanic legal immigrant population (~30-40%). If that population turns against the admin, then it becomes a political problem. Media wanted that to happen and so they are highlighting that story. On the top of it ICE is not a trained police organization. Mishaps happen frequently and that makes them carry bad reputation. November will tell us the real story. As the numbers go down for the Republicans, Trump will lose support in the USG. It is a vicious cycle.

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 10 Feb 2026 13:18

A_Gupta wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 09:01 Transcript https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/tra ... ry-4-2026/

Just some random fact-checks...

1. "We have 11,888 murderers that Biden... let into our country."

The number (often cited as ~13,000) refers to the total number of noncitizens with homicide convictions on ICE’s docket
- This list includes individuals who entered the country over the last 40 years, spanning multiple administrations (including his own first term

). Of course, many of these individuals are "non-detained" because they are currently in prisons for those very crimes, not because they are roaming free.

2. AGAIN here . "I settled eight wars... best first year of any President in history."

- No kidding!

3. "Minnesota: $19 billion in fraud that we know about."
ZERO Basis.

4. "We have the best crime numbers that we’ve had in 125 years."
- contradicts ANY available data.

National crime statistics are typically compiled annually by the FBI,.. Historical data shows that while crime rates fluctuated, they reached historic lows in the 1950s and again in the early 2010s. Also comprehensive national reporting did not exist the early 1900s.

5. "If we captured 50% of the fraud... we would have better than a balanced budget."

- The U.S. federal deficit remains in the trillions. Even the most aggressive estimates of total annual government-wide fraud (often cited by the GAO as being between $233 billion and $521 billion) would not come close to balancing the budget even if 100% of it were recovered.

6. "States are an agent for the federal government in elections."
Not per the U.S. Constitution.

7. The 100% Tariffs will not cost the American consumer anything; the other countries pay the tax
Okay!

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 10 Feb 2026 13:44

Lisa wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 12:43 ^If these migrants are there illegally are they not already committing an offence? India's SC said the same of Rohingya's did it not?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 728314.cms

Lisaji - Let me answer this in detail - because it is *very* Important.

When explaining the reality of current ICE operations to someone unfamiliar with the ground reality in 2026, it is helpful to clarify that the situation has moved far beyond "policing illegal immigration."

Here is a breakdown to help address those common misconceptions:

1. The "Illegal" Myth vs. Current Reality

The biggest misconception is that ICE only interacts with people who have "committed an offense" by being here illegally.

Civil, Not Criminal: - Under U.S. law, presence without documentation is generally a civil infraction (like a speeding ticket), not a criminal one.

Legal Residents & Citizens: - In 2025 and 2026, there have been documented surges in "at-large" arrests where ICE has detained U.S. citizens and Legal Permanent Residents (Green Card holders). For example, in January 2026, reports identified that at least five U.S. citizens were shot in various immigration-related operations since mid-2025.

Massive Error Rates: Because current operations prioritize volume, many "respectable people" who have lived here for decades with full legal status are being caught in the net due to outdated databases or lack of due process during home raids. (majority for just being brown color)

2. The Use of Masks and "Secret" Tactics
The concern about agents in masks with no ID is a very real, documented issue:

Masking as a Tactic: ICE agents began wearing face coverings (masks/gaiters) during raids, w to "maximize terror" and avoid accountability.

Just today (February 9, 2026), a federal judge blocked a California law that tried to ban federal agents from wearing masks. While the judge upheld the requirement for agents to wear visible ID and badge numbers, the reality on the street is that masked agents often make it impossible for families to know who is taking their loved ones.

Home Invasions: ICE has faced criticism for a "secret policy" of entering homes without judicial warrants, leading many families—including me - those here for 50+ years—to feel they are witnessing a "kidnapping" rather than a legal process.

3. Violence and Fatalities
The claim that people are being killed is not just a theory; 2025 was the deadliest year for ICE detention on record.

: Between July 2025 and January 2026, at least eight people were killed by agents in the field. This includes high-profile cases like the fatal shootings of Alex Pretti and Renee Good in Minneapolis in early January 2026.
At least 35 people died in immigration detention centers between July 2025 and early February 2026.

4. India’s SC / Rohingya Comparison

While the Indian Supreme Court (in late 2025) ruled that illegal immigrants like the Rohingya do not have the same "settlement" rights as citizens, there is a major difference:

In the U.S. context, the current system is frequently detaining people who are citizens or legal residents.

Unlike the "refugee" status debates in India, many people being targeted in the U.S. right now have established legal rights that are being bypassed by rapid-response tactical teams.

The "it's only for illegals" argument fails because the current system lacks the safeguards to distinguish between a new arrival and a 50-year citizen in the heat of a masked raid. When agents don't show ID and use "terror-style" tactics, they aren't just enforcing law—they are creating a situation where legal residents and citizens are being injured or killed "by mistake."

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 10 Feb 2026 15:09

All employers are supposed to fill USICS form I-9 for new employees. This has been the law since 1986. In this, the new hire presents the employer with the documents needed to show they are citizens or otherwise authorized to work in the US.

Now the employer can be presented with plausible looking documents, and their liability is then covered. There is the e-Verify system which can be used to check if the presented documentation is authentic, but use of it is voluntary (mostly; that is slowly changing, state by state). The reason for this is the political clout of economic interests that need the labor provided by the undocumented. Then there is the dodge of treating the worker as an independent contractor instead of as an employee.

So the general unwritten American agreement was to have the undocumented as long as they are not criminal.

The difference with India is that India has the labor pool of citizens that will do that work (even if in states like Kerala the labor is imported from Uttar Pradesh or Bihar). So, AFAIK, in India, there is no economic interest, only political interests in shielding the undocumented. AFAIK, the US does not have the problem of non-citizens voting in significant numbers, unlike India.

This unwritten American consensus is broken by the Trump administration- The share of individuals with criminal convictions removed from the interior fell from 92% in 2015–2016 (Obama) to 75–77% in 2018–2020 (Trump first term) to 30% ( first year of Trump second term).

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 11 Feb 2026 00:58

williams wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 13:10
Lisa wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 12:43 ^If these migrants are there illegally are they not already committing an offence? India's SC said the same of Rohingya's did it not?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 728314.cms
Yes that is the point of current Admin. But there are problems. The previous regimes turned a blind eye on these laws and more people came in. Now reversing that and enforcing the law is turning emotionally ugly. Now remember some of the southern states have a large number of Hispanic legal immigrant population (~30-40%). If that population turns against the admin, then it becomes a political problem. Media wanted that to happen and so they are highlighting that story. On the top of it ICE is not a trained police organization. Mishaps happen frequently and that makes them carry bad reputation. November will tell us the real story. As the numbers go down for the Republicans, Trump will lose support in the USG. It is a vicious cycle.

Agreed. Its just so strange seeing people screaming about legalities. They appear to be saying that illegal migrants can only be detained IF they are convicted of a crime! The fact that their very existence in the US is illegal seems to just simply miss them completely.

Furthermore, all fail to explain why they are unwilling to go to court. They scream all day about ICE yet not one mothers son has applied successfully to drastically curtail ICE actions in court because they all know that ICE is working within the law!

Obama carried out over 3 million repatriations and I do not recall even ONE televised protest by MSM. Does anyone?

With regards to India an even stranger story. Peacefuls are being mistreated but peacefuls need asylum here! Stranger than that, with a population of over 200 million, yet no wave of people fleeing India to escape persecution. Unlike Iran Iraq, Yemen Eritrea, Pukistan...........all full of peacefuls yet filling Europe faster than a sinking Titanic but barely a reference to this dichotomy anywhere.

Jay · Post by **Jay** » 11 Feb 2026 01:38

Agreed. Its just so strange seeing people screaming about legalities. They appear to be saying that illegal migrants can only be detained IF they are convicted of a crime! The fact that their very existence in the US is illegal seems to just simply miss them completely.

No. The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence
alone is not a violation of federal criminal law.

Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances.

Undocumented presence in the United States is only criminally punishable if it occurs after an individual was previously formally removed from the United States and then returned without permission.

Furthermore, all fail to explain why they are unwilling to go to court. They scream all day about ICE yet not one mothers son has applied successfully to drastically curtail ICE actions in court because they all know that ICE is working within the law!

Literally thousand have applied to courts and trump's ICE is snatching them at the courts and moving them to detention. I do not how one misses this news as this is everywhere. They have also removed many of immigration judges and the new directive is that if a judge is granting reprieve then they will be terminated.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/depor ... -check-ins

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/10/nx-s1-56 ... whats-next

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/24/us/i ... ntion.html

https://www.ms.now/opinion/trump-immigr ... judges-doj

Obama carried out over 3 million repatriations and I do not recall even ONE televised protest by MSM. Does anyone?

That's because these protests are not just about the repatriations, but how ICE is using all the gestapo tactics to make law as they goes by and apply it to anyone they consider is in their way. During the Obama admin how many raids on schools did ICE conduct? How many churches and other places of worship did they have to raid? How many daily roving snatching's did they perform?

With regards to India an even stranger story. Peacefuls are being mistreated but peacefuls need asylum here! Stranger than that, with a population of over 200 million, yet no wave of people fleeing India to escape persecution. Unlike Iran Iraq, Yemen Eritrea, Pukistan...........all full of peacefuls yet filling Europe faster than a sinking Titanic but barely a reference to this dichotomy anywhere.

And what is this kujli of bringing India into every discussion? How is immigration in India is even remotely relevant to immigration in US?

williams · Post by **williams** » 11 Feb 2026 01:52

Lisa wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026 00:58
williams wrote: ↑10 Feb 2026 13:10

Yes that is the point of current Admin. But there are problems. The previous regimes turned a blind eye on these laws and more people came in. Now reversing that and enforcing the law is turning emotionally ugly. Now remember some of the southern states have a large number of Hispanic legal immigrant population (~30-40%). If that population turns against the admin, then it becomes a political problem. Media wanted that to happen and so they are highlighting that story. On the top of it ICE is not a trained police organization. Mishaps happen frequently and that makes them carry bad reputation. November will tell us the real story. As the numbers go down for the Republicans, Trump will lose support in the USG. It is a vicious cycle.
Agreed. Its just so strange seeing people screaming about legalities. They appear to be saying that illegal migrants can only be detained IF they are convicted of a crime! The fact that their very existence in the US is illegal seems to just simply miss them completely.

Furthermore, all fail to explain why they are unwilling to go to court. They scream all day about ICE yet not one mothers son has applied successfully to drastically curtail ICE actions in court because they all know that ICE is working within the law!

Obama carried out over 3 million repatriations and I do not recall even ONE televised protest by MSM. Does anyone?

With regards to India an even stranger story. Peacefuls are being mistreated but peacefuls need asylum here! Stranger than that, with a population of over 200 million, yet no wave of people fleeing India to escape persecution. Unlike Iran Iraq, Yemen Eritrea, Pukistan...........all full of peacefuls yet filling Europe faster than a sinking Titanic but barely a reference to this dichotomy anywhere.

So, I think Amber Ji is bringing out some of the arguments from the other side. And these are genuine concerns. Trump admin has burnt a lot of bridges with the legal immigrant community because of these unnecessary tactics. ICE could have taken staggered approach. 1. Secure the border 2. Identify and deport the people with criminal records 3. Tighten the employment laws to filter out illegal employees 4. Provide some time and way out for the more civil yet illegal immigrants to leave before taking action.

The rough out approach may be deemed legal, but you've lost all the good will doing it and this can easily put the Republicans in back foot politically for a long time. The idea of America as a beacon of democracy, fairness and merit is now in the dumps. In the long term, this will define the decline of this great power IMO.

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 11 Feb 2026 04:49

Warning : graphic .. the Epstein files are demonic to say the least ..
Dressing up as Jesus to rape a girl because she said Jesus made her feel safe and they wanted to torture her more
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAzRWKibAAE ... name=small

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 11 Feb 2026 08:08

Just to point out that many people have moved the courts against ICE, the judges have stayed ICE or reversed their decisions, and ICE blatantly disregards the court orders.

How ICE defies judges’ orders to release detainees, step by step
A POLITICO review of hundreds of cases brought by ICE detainees shows a pattern of noncompliance that has frustrated judges across the country.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/1 ... s-00771727

——
Obama had the record number of deportations till that time, and his max year probably still exceeds Trump’s 2025 (we don’t have all the numbers). Show me disregard of the law there.

“ Furthermore, all fail to explain why they are unwilling to go to court. They scream all day about ICE yet not one mother’s son has applied successfully to drastically curtail ICE actions in court because they all know that ICE is working within the law!” is simply not justified by the facts.

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » 11 Feb 2026 13:49

From Google, Why I need A Visa?

"Visas are required because they allow countries to control who enters their borders, manage immigration, and ensure national security, letting governments vet visitors for reasons like health, criminal records, or economic stability before granting entry for specific purposes (work, study, tourism) and durations. They help prevent illegal immigration, terrorism, and protect public health, while also serving as a tool for diplomatic reciprocity between nations. "

This applies to India and the US.

My last post on this matter.

Tanaji · Post by **Tanaji** » 11 Feb 2026 16:02

Something seems to be happening in El Paso, TX. Airspace closed until Feb 20, which is unprecedented. Its not a small place either.

ShauryaT · Post by **ShauryaT** » 11 Feb 2026 17:18

Jay wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026 01:38
No. The act of being present in the United States in violation of the immigration laws is not, standing alone, a crime. While federal immigration law does criminalize some actions that may be related to undocumented presence in the United States, undocumented presence
alone is not a violation of federal criminal law.

Entering the United States without being inspected and admitted, i.e., illegal entry, is a misdemeanor or can be a felony, depending on the circumstances.

Undocumented presence in the United States is only criminally punishable if it occurs after an individual was previously formally removed from the United States and then returned without permission.

From what I understand. Crossing over without an authorization is a misdemeanor - A criminal offense (even if minor). The government can choose to prosecute these in civil or criminal proceedings. A 2nd time, would be a felony. Overstaying a Visa is a "civilian" offense. I guess a majority of the ones being prosecuted fall in the misdemeanor category. The executive actions around this matter have changed from "situation" dependent to a literal enforcement of the law - as intended. The mass abused "asylum" provisions are no bar to prosecution today.

Anecdotally, the masses who have come to the US illegally, do not think of themselves as criminals. It is largely viewed as an ethnic and economic discrimination issue. Their communities are petrified as many with families or long history of residence are no longer reasons to escape criminal prosecution and treatment.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 11 Feb 2026 19:27

Washington Post CEO Will Lewis resigns amid newsroom turmoil following massive layoffs of 300 staff

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8e5ee39j47o

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 11 Feb 2026 20:57

Tanaji wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026 16:02 Something seems to be happening in El Paso, TX. Airspace closed until Feb 20, which is unprecedented. Its not a small place either.

Tanaji ji saar,

It seems to be an issue with cartel drones and is probably drug related

Long airspace closures are unprecedented but even in the past, el paso seems to have been shut down, on and off for around 2 hours each time, for the same reason

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 12 Feb 2026 02:07

^^^ see BRF for the latest news:

Amber G. wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 02:01 Sharing here for BRF xpost - How would US perform in operation Sindoor aka spotting drones, party balloons and "itchy trigger finger" in border security in USA :

On February 11, 2026, the FAA abruptly shut down the airspace over El Paso, Texas, for seven hours following a high-tension incident where a high-energy laser from Fort Bliss engaged four Mylar balloons (party balloons) that were mistaken for cartel surveillance drones. (They initially announced 'closed the air space for 8 days! - when I heard the news report) . While the White House and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy initially characterized the event as a neutralized "cartel drone incursion," reports from The CBS News indicate the closure was actually triggered by the FAA’s unilateral decision to protect civilian flights after the military failed to coordinate its directed-energy weapon testing. The incident caused significant travel chaos and localized medical emergencies, highlighting a critical breakdown in communication between the FAA and the Department of Defense regarding the use of advanced counter-drone technology near major metropolitan areas.

Link:https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/natio ... f9b4921d0e

williams · Post by **williams** » 12 Feb 2026 02:30

A_Gupta wrote: ↑11 Feb 2026 08:08 Just to point out that many people have moved the courts against ICE, the judges have stayed ICE or reversed their decisions, and ICE blatantly disregards the court orders.

How ICE defies judges’ orders to release detainees, step by step
A POLITICO review of hundreds of cases brought by ICE detainees shows a pattern of noncompliance that has frustrated judges across the country.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/1 ... s-00771727

——
Obama had the record number of deportations till that time, and his max year probably still exceeds Trump’s 2025 (we don’t have all the numbers). Show me disregard of the law there.

“ Furthermore, all fail to explain why they are unwilling to go to court. They scream all day about ICE yet not one mother’s son has applied successfully to drastically curtail ICE actions in court because they all know that ICE is working within the law!” is simply not justified by the facts.

Some stats will give us an understanding of why there are many ICE goof ups lately. They doubled their strength from 10000 agents to 22000 in a short period (1 year). this was possible due to compressed training of 47 days 155 days. The age required is reduced to 18 (from 21). So we are talking about young and know nothing individuals try to enforce something with time pressure of meeting the goal of 75 arrests per day per person. Leadership is held accountable if these numbers cannot be met.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Feb 2026 03:08

In U.S. immigration law, “removal” is the formal term for deportation. It refers to the legal process by which the government expels a noncitizen from the United States and returns them to their country of origin.

So how are all these extra ICE personal performing?

https://tracreports.org/reports/767/
November 25, 2025

Removals: ICE has just posted how many individuals it has removed since October 1, 2025. This date marks the beginning of fiscal year 2026. ICE reports it removed 56,392 individuals so far in FY 2026.

ICE also posted FY 2025 year-end figures for removals.[1] { [1]^ ICE has not revealed how many removals occurred between September 21 and 30, 2025 so actual numbers may be slightly higher.} As TRAC has previously reported, an estimated total of 85,769 of these removals took place while President Biden was still in office,[2] {[2]^ See TRAC’s earlier reports published February 25, 2025, March 25, 2025, and May 15, 2025.} leaving a total of 234,211 removals occurring after President Trump assumed office.

Adding the figures for FY 2025 and FY 2026 together, the total reported number of removals during the Trump administration is just 290,603. This is just 7 percent more than were removed in FY 2024 during the last full year of the Biden administration despite the enormous increase in the resources and government personnel devoted to this effort.

So what really is the ICE effort about? It is about terrorizing communities.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Feb 2026 03:27

Now it is ten!

Trump repeats India-Pakistan ceasefire claims, now says '10 planes were shot down'
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 23170.html

drnayar · Post by **drnayar** » 12 Feb 2026 03:35

A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 03:08 In U.S. immigration law, “removal” is the formal term for deportation. It refers to the legal process by which the government expels a noncitizen from the United States and returns them to their country of origin.

So how are all these extra ICE personal performing?

https://tracreports.org/reports/767/
November 25, 2025

Removals: ICE has just posted how many individuals it has removed since October 1, 2025. This date marks the beginning of fiscal year 2026. ICE reports it removed 56,392 individuals so far in FY 2026.

ICE also posted FY 2025 year-end figures for removals.[1] { [1]^ ICE has not revealed how many removals occurred between September 21 and 30, 2025 so actual numbers may be slightly higher.} As TRAC has previously reported, an estimated total of 85,769 of these removals took place while President Biden was still in office,[2] {[2]^ See TRAC’s earlier reports published February 25, 2025, March 25, 2025, and May 15, 2025.} leaving a total of 234,211 removals occurring after President Trump assumed office.

Adding the figures for FY 2025 and FY 2026 together, the total reported number of removals during the Trump administration is just 290,603. This is just 7 percent more than were removed in FY 2024 during the last full year of the Biden administration despite the enormous increase in the resources and government personnel devoted to this effort.
So what really is the ICE effort about? It is about terrorizing communities.

keep the aam admi quiet, instead of revolting on the repulsive Epstein files., Clinton was impeached for far less.. now Israel has given Trump the solution and trained the ICE how to "keep control" .

Israel has the largest intelligence operation [ of any country in the world] running in the US for a very long time

Israel made the problem., Epstein was one of theirs.[ there is a very strong reason to believe he is very much alive] . They have enough dirt on almost all US politicians on both sides., enough to control them., especially Trump. They did a "controlled" release to keep everyone in line. Kash , Pam and everyone have repeatedly lied under oath., its not just their jobs , probably their lives as well.

They have also given Trump the solution to quell a possible revolt :

inside the Government : by selective leaks / threats : notice the democrats has been quite meek and submissive
outside the Government : ICE to control the masses by fear and intimidation.. a quick look at their agenda/mandate shows they exist literally outside the law and have impunity

outside the country : selective leaks and political control over foreign leaders courtesy Mossad and financiers like the Rothschilds

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 12 Feb 2026 06:31

A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 03:08 So what really is the ICE effort about? It is about terrorizing communities.

CBP ( part of ICE - and those who killed/murdered Good - an American citizen) now using DoD lasers to shoot down
a party balloon - BEFORE informing FAA (and closing airspace of 8 hours - risking air traffic) ..lying about it...
See my post just few posts above (or in other dhaga.) ... and they are *only* doing lawful custom and patrol duty and arresting/deporting...

More details Pentagon let CBP use anti-drone laser before FAA closed El Paso airspace, AP sources say

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 12 Feb 2026 09:13

“ Steven Willoughby, deputy director of the counter-drone program at the Department of Homeland Security, told Congress in July that cartels are using drones nearly every day to transport drugs across the border and surveil Border Patrol agents. More than 27,000 drones were detected within 500 meters (1,600 feet) of the southern border in the last six months of 2024, he said, mostly at night.”

— on a different note, how does India deal with Paki drones?

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 12 Feb 2026 19:50

Why Indian Students are Disliked Abroad!

It was the first day of school in the USA and a new Indian student named Chandra Subramanian entered the 4th grade.

The teacher said, "Let's begin by reviewing some American History.

Teacher :- Who said 'Give me Liberty, or give me Death'?"

She saw a sea of blank faces except for Chandra, who had his hand up:

Chandra :- 'Patrick Henry, 1775,'.

'Very good!

Teacher :- Who said 'Government of the People, by the People, for the People,
shall not perish from the Earth?''

Again, no response except from Chandra:- 'Abraham Lincoln, 1863'.

The teacher snapped at the class, 'Class, you should be ashamed.
Chandra, who is new to our country, knows more about our history than you do.'

She heard a loud stage whisper: 'F(uk the Indians.'

'Who said that?' she demanded. But Chandra put his hand up. 'General Custer, 1862.'

At that point, a student in the back said, 'I'm gonna puke.'

The teacher glares around and asks 'All right! Now, who said that?'

Again, Chandra says, 'George Bush to the Japanese Prime Minister, 1991.'

Now furious, another student yells, 'Oh yeah? $(ck this!'

Chandra jumps out of his chair waving his hand and shouts to the teacher,
'Bill Clinton to Monica Lewinsky, 1997.'

Now with almost mob hysteria someone said
'You little shit. If you say anything else, I'll kill you.'

Chandra frantically yells at the top of his voice, 'Michael Jackson to the child witness testifying against him in 2004.'

The teacher fainted. And as the class gathered around the teacher on the floor, someone said, 'Oh shit, we're screwed!'

And Chandra said quietly, 'Lehmann Brothers, November 4th, 2008'.

A_Gupta · Post by **A_Gupta** » 13 Feb 2026 02:37

https://apple.news/AK2Jk0UD1RBqJEqAhVSbxdA

The Trump administration on Thursday revoked a scientific finding that long has been the central basis for U.S. action to regulate greenhouse gas emissions and fight climate change , the most aggressive move by the Republican president to roll back climate regulations.

The rule finalized by the Environmental Protection Agency rescinds a 2009 government declaration known as the endangerment finding that determined that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases threaten public health and welfare.

The endangerment finding by the Obama administration is the legal underpinning of nearly all climate regulations under the Clean Air Act for motor vehicles, power plants and other pollution sources that are heating the planet.

President Donald Trump called the move “the single largest deregulatory action in American history, by far” while EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin called the endangerment finding “the Holy Grail of federal regulatory overreach.”

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 13 Feb 2026 02:50

A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 03:27 Now it is ten!

Trump repeats India-Pakistan ceasefire claims, now says '10 planes were shot down'
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 23170.html

Latest invoice from Pakistan demanding payment for services landed on his desk

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 13 Feb 2026 03:16

A_Gupta wrote: ↑13 Feb 2026 02:37 https://apple.news/AK2Jk0UD1RBqJEqAhVSbxdA

Virtually all scientific bodies and expert surveys have rejected or strongly criticized it.

RCase · Post by **RCase** » 13 Feb 2026 03:59

A_Gupta wrote: ↑12 Feb 2026 03:27 Now it is ten!

Trump repeats India-Pakistan ceasefire claims, now says '10 planes were shot down'
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india ... 23170.html

OK. It was 10 ....................... F-16s!