Climate Change: Propaganda Vs Reality

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The question to me is - has decarbonization a momentum of its own that will not be derailed by the US deregulation of greenhouse gases? Yes, it will mean that China owns all those technologies to the extent India and the EU do not step up to the plate, and is sad for the US's future. But humanity and the globe overall are more important.

E.g., for both China and India energy independence alone gives an incentive to renewable energy, especially if the US gets the Western Hemisphere and Western Asia under its thumb, and if Russia indeed changes course and goes with the US, as is rumored it might do ( viewtopic.php?p=2672106#p2672106 ). It would mean American control of world petroleum, and thus a threat to each of the nations.
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@Cyrano gaaru, good video. A few of my close friends used to regurgitate these same talking points.
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This being from the right wing bari weiss's "free press" is a red flag to begin with, but I tried to watch and understand what her gripes were regarding this "climate activism" and boy she keep's jumping from one point to another point and connecting them all like a conspiracy theory, like most right wing people do. She starts of with saying that in 2010's climate activism was not a big thing and I have to stop and question her understanding. On what planet she was on where climate talk was not a big deal a decade ago?

Ultimately her main gripe seems to be that climate activism brings in a lot of activists that are also active in other sphere's like identity politics and when that clashed with her own identity as a white, straight women that is when she moved away from the climate movement.

Her examples of plastic vs glass, and how she was not even aware of CO2% in the atmosphere makes her come across as a dark bimbo. Same with her plastic example during covid. She said she was skeptical of the dakota pipeline and had her doubts in 2016, but continued with her activist" job until 2022, before moving to free press in 2022. Yeah...she's a mercenary and will sing praises of whoever gives her money.

She vehemently says that she is all in for traditional climate environment movement and its goals of conservation, protecting animals, and getting pollution out of the environment, but immediately goes on to say that fossil fuels and other modern ways have nothing to do with it...lol. She then says that climate change movement is a debbie downer, "womp womp", and she needs the positive feels to feel she is not depressed.

She does have a valid point that a many of these hard core climate activists are nihilists. If these "anti climate activists" talk about lessening pollution in our air and water that many many more will listen to them and opt their line. Just give people clean air, water without spiking their bills and no one will question with your movement is climate-doomer or climate-boomer. None of these guys are honest....scamsters of the first degree.
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Meanwhile NY Times article Risks of sea-level rise have been significantly underestimated due to a widespread methodological flaw in previous studies.


--> Over 90% of peer-reviewed studies on coastal vulnerability incorrectly used "geoids" (mathematical models of Earth's gravity) as a proxy for actual sea levels. These models do not account for local variations in water height and land elevation.

--> On average, coastal sea levels were found to be 9.4 to 10.6 inches (24 to 27 cm) higher than previously modeled. In some regions of the Global South, such as Southeast Asia and the Pacific, actual sea levels could be 18 to 25 feet higher than assumed in older models.

--> The study emphasizes the urgent need for researchers to integrate direct sea-level and land-elevation measurements with geoid models to provide more accurate projections for climate adaptation and coastal planning.
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Sometimes I wish all this were true and Yepp Steen's island had gone under water. Oh well...
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