India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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srin wrote: 03 Mar 2026 21:01 You know the good thing that the Muricans have done by first Venezuela and now Iran ? They have moved the Overton window towards pre-emptive strike without any pretext. You don't need casus belli, you don't need false flag operations, and you won't become a global pariah like Russia is. You just decide that you are tired of somebody and go whack them. And then come up with some reasonable explanations
The bar to engage in overt pre-emptive kinetic action is much much lower
That opens a lot of avenues for us for the hot continuation of Op Sindhoor. Or in the Siliguri corridor.
Indeed the UN is just a relic now..not surprising that no one called for an urgent council meet or whatever, rules based order is dead as a dodo.

Only thing that matters is might.. hard military power and backed by smiley diplomacy
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srin wrote: 03 Mar 2026 21:01 You know the good thing that the Muricans have done by first Venezuela and now Iran ? They have moved the Overton window towards pre-emptive strike without any pretext. You don't need casus belli, you don't need false flag operations, and you won't become a global pariah like Russia is. You just decide that you are tired of somebody and go whack them. And then come up with some reasonable explanations
The bar to engage in overt pre-emptive kinetic action is much much lower
That opens a lot of avenues for us for the hot continuation of Op Sindhoor. Or in the Siliguri corridor.
Very true. As long as the information warfare is managed right, we can throw our punches.
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srin wrote: 03 Mar 2026 21:01 You know the good thing that the Muricans have done by first Venezuela and now Iran ? They have moved the Overton window towards pre-emptive strike without any pretext. You don't need casus belli, you don't need false flag operations, and you won't become a global pariah like Russia is. You just decide that you are tired of somebody and go whack them. And then come up with some reasonable explanations
The bar to engage in overt pre-emptive kinetic action is much much lower
That opens a lot of avenues for us for the hot continuation of Op Sindhoor. Or in the Siliguri corridor.
There were times when they could do all under the cover of U.N rules which they themselves wrote for their advantage while being the Pious Murikans. Today that cover is not available for them and they are doing it Kullam Khulla.
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The Trump administration confirmed in a new court filing that it will pay interest on any refunds it ultimately must make after the US Supreme Court struck down the president’s contested tariffs.

This hasn't been a central issue, but underscores the massive financial stakes. Interest could total $700M each month that passes, per recent Cato report

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𝐔𝐒 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐭 𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐜𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐦𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐮𝐧𝐝 $𝟏𝟑𝟎 𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐥 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝐭𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐬

Judge Richard Eaton of the U.S. Court of International Trade in Manhattan ordered the government to finalise the cost of bringing millions of shipments into the U.S. without assessing a tariff, according to a court filing. He ordered the refunds to be made with interest.
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^^^ Lutnick gang is celebrating and counting the moolah
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Amber G. wrote: 05 Mar 2026 05:11 The Trump administration confirmed in a new court filing that it will pay interest on any refunds it ultimately must make after the US Supreme Court struck down the president’s contested tariffs.

This hasn't been a central issue, but underscores the massive financial stakes. Interest could total $700M each month that passes, per recent Cato report

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HClxZm6WsAE0gLo?format=jpg
They can print more and bring down the dollar value :mrgreen:
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https://www.moneycontrol.com/world/us-t ... 50716.html

The United States could raise its newly imposed 10% universal import tariff to 15% as early as this week, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has indicated, signalling further churn in global trade policy under President Donald Trump.

Speaking to CNBC, Bessent said the proposed hike was imminent. “That’s likely sometime this week,” Bessent said on CNBC in response to a question about when the increase to 15% would be implemented.
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All over the internet - Speech at the White House this morning... All Norway's fault!
If the Prime Minister of Norway had given me the Nobel Peace Prize, our submarine wouldn’t have had to sink an Iranian ship
— Donald Trump, President of the United States.
{ It is viral meme - not real news but keeping it here.:) .
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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/bus ... 101184.cms

US will ‘not make same mistake’ of giving India 'China-like concessions', says official

US Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau says :

“ The US will not give India the same kind of economic advantages it gave china , US will not allow India to become its competitor, The Trade deal will keep Americans first ”
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That is exactly what I think.

This does however need a study on exactly how China used the US.

Was it merely outsourcing? What transfers of technology/ access to research facilities helped? Is China now truly autonomous? Or will another generational leap in US technology outclass China again?
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Since they have said it openly, there is no need to look with hope to the U.S. U.S sees us as their competitor and not as a partner. The overall systems need changed accordingly. it's time to look for Alternatives to the U.S weaponry. Be it P-8I, Stryker, engines, Social media apps and what not. Desi systems the best. If not like in the case of P-8I look for Russian ones. In areas where we are strong, go with our own apps and communication tools and so on.
US won’t allow India to become its competitor: Dy State Sec Christopher Landau at Raisina
US won’t allow India to become its competitor: US Official gave harsh ‘reality check’ to New Delhi at Raisina Dialogue, as he said, “The US will not give India the same kind of economic advantages it gave to China, US will not allow India to become its competitor, The Trade deal will keep Americans first.”
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Lost twin brother at KumbhMela found
US to India: "We Are Your Strategic Twin" - Raisina 2026
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The gall to come to India and make such statements. Next this fellow will go and meet Pappu.
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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent @SecScottBessent

President Trump’s energy agenda has resulted in oil and gas production reaching the highest levels ever recorded.

To enable oil to keep flowing into the global market, the Treasury Department is issuing a temporary 30-day waiver to allow Indian refiners to purchase Russian oil. This deliberately short-term measure will not provide significant financial benefit to the Russian government as it only authorizes transactions involving oil already stranded at sea.

India is an essential partner of the United States, and we fully anticipate that New Delhi will ramp up purchases of U.S. oil. This stop-gap measure will alleviate pressure caused by Iran’s attempt to take global energy hostage.


5:52 AM · Mar 6, 2026·
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@ANI

Govt Sources: Today, we have more energy sources than what is stuck in the Straits of Hormuz.

We are in a comfortable position in Crude oil, Oil products and LPG.

In terms of our current stock, we are in a comfortable position.

We are going to ramp up our supplies from other parts of the geographies and make up for our supply crunch from the Straits of Hormuz.

We have been buying crude oil from Russia since 2022. In 2022, we were importing 0.2 per cent of total imports from Russia. In February, we imported 20 per cent of our total crude oil imports from Russia. In February, India imported 1.04 mn barrel per day from Russia.

News of the MRPL refinery shutdown is incorrect. MRPL Refinery is very well stocked, have adequate stock.

All the LPG refineries are directed to increase production of LPG.

We are in a comfortable position with our LPG stock.

We will use our Petchem for domestic use to ease the consumption demand
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BIG: India provides refuge to the 3rd Iran Warship IRIS Lavan in Kochi.

IRIS Lavan requested for refuge on 28th Feb, & was given approval on 1st March & has been docked in the port since 4th March.

Crew of 183 have been accommodated at naval facilities.
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https://www.rediff.com/news/report/neve ... 260306.htm
Never required permission to buy Russian oil: Officials
India affirms its sovereign right to purchase Russian oil based on its energy needs, dismissing the notion that it requires permission from any other nation, even amidst US sanctions.
Utkarsh Mishra, March 06, 2026

India has never been dependent on permission from any nation to buy Russian oil and though the United States sanctions' waiver allowing refiners to purchase it removes friction, it does not define the country's policy, a senior government functionary said, dismissing opposition charges.
Russian oil continued to flow into India even after the US objected to it and imposed sanctions, the functionary said, citing a 2013 adjustment done by the then Congress government in oil imports under US sanctions.
Amid the escalating conflict with Iran, the US on Thursday said it was issuing a temporary 30-day waiver to allow Indian refiners to purchase Russian oil.
The message from the Centre to every Indian household is clear that the country's fuel supply is fully secure. The government is continuously monitoring the situation and will act, as it always has, in the interest of every citizen, the government functionary said.
"No petrol pump has run dry in 12 years. What certain voices are calling a crisis is, in fact, the proof of preparation. India's energy governance has given us the insulation we need," the functionary said.
The US waiver of sanctions removes friction. It does not define India's policy, which is governed by the energy trilemma -- affordability, availability and sustainability -- for every Indian household, the functionary said.
India currently holds over 250 million barrels of crude oil and refined products -- 7 to 8 weeks of buffer -- distributed across strategic reserves, storage tanks, pipelines, terminal facilities and vessels already in transit to the country's ports.
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Meanwhile United States reaches out to India for help to reduce oil prices.
"We’ve reached out to our friends in India to buy stored Russian oil. That pulls oil into Indian refineries and releases pressure on other global refineries,"
- US Energy Secretary Chris Wright.
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commentary on India buying Russian Oil
A Timeline since 2022

Apr 2022: US Deputy NSA Daleep Singh: "Not in India’s interest to accelerate or increase imports of Russian energy"

Feb 2023 - No sanctions on India for Russian energy imports, says Biden official

May 2024: The then US Amb Garcetti "We wanted India to buy Russian Oil, we didn't want oil prices going up"

Aug/Sept 2025 US Prez Trump : "Disappointed that India buying Russian oil, imposed 50% tariffs"

March 2026: US Energy Secy Chris Wright "We have reached out to our friends in India to buy Russian oil"

All this (While India has just kept doing what is best for its citizens) :D
BTW: Russia was one of the largest suppliers of energy to India in February. 1.04 million barrels of crude imported a day in February =per Govt Sources!
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USA today reminds me of the tamil movie Saamy - new police hero will go to the head goonda and tell him what he is going to do and then do it. Then the goonda will compliment him - this guy is not bad. He is telling me what he is going to !!

This feels similar. Suits India well - paying lip service to massa Trump!
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‘Rise of India will be determined by India…’ Did S Jaishankar take a dig at US?
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INDIA IS NEXT TO BE CRUSHED !?

Top American Economist Jeffrey Sachs Detonated The Truth Bomb no one in Delhi wants to hear:

"If India truly rises and succeeds, the United States will sabotage and weaken it — exactly the way they destroyed Russia and are dismantling China right now."

This isn’t Theory. This is America's DNA:

Use Rising Nations as Disposable Pawns against their Rivals, Bleed them in Proxy Fights, then cut their WINGS the moment they get Strong Enough to Challenge The Throne.

Washington's “Indo-Pacific” Circus? Pure Trap.

They want India Bleeding on the China Border, Wasting Trillions in Defence, Playing attack dog while America watches from afar — then hit us with Sanctions, Tech Bans and Containment the Second we actually threaten their Supremacy.

Jeffrey Sachs asked the KILLER Question: What Are Indian Leaders Thinking By Trusting This?

We didn’t Endure 200 years of Looting to become America's Next Victim.


https://x.com/tanmoyofc/status/2030904508805771401
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Du must ambor odder Hammer sein.
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drnayar wrote: 10 Mar 2026 02:09 INDIA IS NEXT TO BE CRUSHED !?

Top American Economist Jeffrey Sachs Detonated The Truth Bomb no one in Delhi wants to hear:

"If India truly rises and succeeds, the United States will sabotage and weaken it — exactly the way they destroyed Russia and are dismantling China right now."

This isn’t Theory. This is America's DNA:

Use Rising Nations as Disposable Pawns against their Rivals, Bleed them in Proxy Fights, then cut their WINGS the moment they get Strong Enough to Challenge The Throne.

Washington's “Indo-Pacific” Circus? Pure Trap.

They want India Bleeding on the China Border, Wasting Trillions in Defence, Playing attack dog while America watches from afar — then hit us with Sanctions, Tech Bans and Containment the Second we actually threaten their Supremacy.

Jeffrey Sachs asked the KILLER Question: What Are Indian Leaders Thinking By Trusting This?

We didn’t Endure 200 years of Looting to become America's Next Victim.


https://x.com/tanmoyofc/status/2030904508805771401
The fact is many Indians themselves support this
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rkirankr wrote: 10 Mar 2026 08:36 The fact is many Indians themselves support thi😱
Few Dynasts, who can't return to power through democratic means. So they choose to be U.S stooges.
Jeffrey Sachs is also not a pro-India voice. He is a Pro-China, Pro-Russia voice. He himself is using the India to further his agenda.

"They want India Bleeding on the China Border, Wasting Trillions in Defence, Playing attack dog while America watches from afar — then hit us with Sanctions, Tech Bans and Containment the Second we actually threaten their Supremacy. Jeffrey Sachs asked the KILLER Question: What Are Indian Leaders Thinking By Trusting This?"

This statement is not a love for India but a love for China. Even though that's what U.S is planning, he is stating it for China.
Neither is U.S our Friend Nor is China nor is Jeff. The likes of Jeff want to See an India that support China against U.S.
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Add to that communists
https://x.com/MajorPoonia/status/2030967279866007610
@MajorPoonia
That’s the reality of Communism !
डफली गैंग ,,, लाल सलाम जिन्दाबाद
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NOOOO. Why is he not in North Korea or the people’s paradise of proletariat China?

He will lose massively at the polls as Malyalees see through the hypocrisy. No?
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sanjaykumar wrote: 10 Mar 2026 19:25 NOOOO. Why is he not in North Korea or the people’s paradise of proletariat China?

He will lose massively at the polls as Malyalees see through the hypocrisy. No?
Blind belief to the party is entrenched in their cadres. Though a lot of them who has realized it are leaving the party. Many areas that used to be Communist strongholds are crumbling and BJP is making huge inroads. The recent winning of Thiruvananthapuram corporation is no mean task. BJP plans to win maximum seats in TVM where about they are strong in 4 such constituencies. along with many other important seats where they used to come second like Palakkad, Manjeswaram. Also this time, there are Christians who are joining the party and chances of their victory in certain seats like Pala exist. One could expect BJP gaining about 5 to 8 seats in this assembly election. Party is growing. The current Mayor of TVM is liked by people already. next assembly he can be a candidate for TVM Parliamentary seat and he could win.
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Very interesting. Hope Kerala will also have the Hindu growth rate. I choose that term carefully. It used to mean the death knell of the economy, in the 1960s and 1970s. Now it means 10% growth yearly in nominal terms.
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uddu wrote: 10 Mar 2026 19:48
sanjaykumar wrote: 10 Mar 2026 19:25 NOOOO. Why is he not in North Korea or the people’s paradise of proletariat China?

He will lose massively at the polls as Malyalees see through the hypocrisy. No?
Blind belief to the party is entrenched in their cadres. Though a lot of them who has realized it are leaving the party. Many areas that used to be Communist strongholds are crumbling and BJP is making huge inroads. The recent winning of Thiruvananthapuram corporation is no mean task. BJP plans to win maximum seats in TVM where about they are strong in 4 such constituencies. along with many other important seats where they used to come second like Palakkad, Manjeswaram. Also this time, there are Christians who are joining the party and chances of their victory in certain seats like Pala exist. One could expect BJP gaining about 5 to 8 seats in this assembly election. Party is growing. The current Mayor of TVM is liked by people already. next assembly he can be a candidate for TVM Parliamentary seat and he could win.

uddu ji,

The ezhava community is the largest Hindu community in Kerala, constituting roughly 23-30% of the state's population.

What these guys do affects the commies directly.


Historically and socially, aren't they among the biggest supporters of the commie gangs, keeping them in power over the years.
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]Looks like Ambani US deal rather than India US. interesting that proprietary tech built by Indian engineers will go to America
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^^^ The United States has not built a new oil refinery in fifty years. Fifty. The last one broke ground when Nixon was president and oil cost $3 a barrel.

The largest energy investment in American history. Port of Brownsville, Texas. Groundbreaking Q2 2026. Binding 20-year offtake agreement. Processing American shale crude. Thousands of jobs in South Texas. “The cleanest refinery in the world.”

The lead investor is Indian.

Reliance Industries, controlled by the Ambani family with a 50.39% promoter stake, operators of the Jamnagar complex in Gujarat, the largest single-site refinery on Earth, are the confirmed major foreign partner. Trump thanked them on Truth Social as “our partners in India, and their largest privately held Energy Company” for their “tremendous investment.”
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Amber G. wrote: 11 Mar 2026 10:05 ....

Reliance Industries, controlled by the Ambani family with a 50.39% promoter stake, operators of the Jamnagar complex in Gujarat, the largest single-site refinery on Earth, are the confirmed major foreign partner. Trump thanked them on Truth Social as “our partners in India, and their largest privately held Energy Company” for their “tremendous investment.”
Will our Pappu restart his 'Ambani-Adani' raaga ?
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Amber G. wrote: 11 Mar 2026 10:05 ^^^ The United States has not built a new oil refinery in fifty years. Fifty. The last one broke ground when Nixon was president and oil cost $3 a barrel.

The largest energy investment in American history. Port of Brownsville, Texas. Groundbreaking Q2 2026. Binding 20-year offtake agreement. Processing American shale crude. Thousands of jobs in South Texas. “The cleanest refinery in the world.”

The lead investor is Indian.

Reliance Industries, controlled by the Ambani family with a 50.39% promoter stake, operators of the Jamnagar complex in Gujarat, the largest single-site refinery on Earth, are the confirmed major foreign partner. Trump thanked them on Truth Social as “our partners in India, and their largest privately held Energy Company” for their “tremendous investment.”


Amber G saar,


these guys are in a huge dispute with the GoI

As of late 2025 and early 2026, a long-running dispute between Mukesh Ambani’s Reliance Industries Limited (RIL) and the Indian government regarding alleged theft of natural gas in the Krishna Godavari (KG) Basin has resurfaced with significant legal developments.

Here are the key details of the dispute:
The Allegation (2004–2014): RIL is accused of "massive organized fraud" by drilling sideways into neighboring fields belonging to the state-owned Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) in the KG Basin to illegally extract natural gas.

The Value: Reports and an independent assessment by DeGolyer and MacNaughton (D&M), supported by the A.P. Shah Committee, indicated that the migrated gas was valued at over USD 1.55 billion (approx. ₹13,000-14,000 crore), with interest potentially adding another USD 174.9 million.

Bombay High Court Intervention (Nov 2025): The Bombay High Court issued a notice to the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) and the Union government regarding a petition by Jitendra P. Maru seeking a criminal probe against RIL and Mukesh Ambani for theft, dishonest misappropriation, and criminal breach of trust.
RIL’s Defense: RIL has consistently maintained that the gas was "migratory" in nature—naturally moving from ONGC fields into their block—and that they were merely producing it, thus making the extraction legal.
Legal Status: While RIL previously won an arbitration award in 2018 that rejected the government's claim, the Delhi High Court set aside this award in February 2025, ruling that it violated India's public policy and was in the interest of the government to recover the money.

The case is currently navigating both a potential criminal investigation (following the Bombay HC notice) and legal challenges in the Supreme Court regarding the arbitration award, with hearings continuing into late 2025 and early 2026

wonder if that has anything to do with cozying up to the amrikis and hoping for protection
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They have always been close to the clintons and maintained relations with both sides of the spectrum.
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“A new 160,000 barrel-per-day (bpd) refinery generally costs between $5 billion and $6 billion for construction. However, a specific 2026 project, "America First Refining" in Texas, is being touted as a $300 billion project, though this figure often includes associated long-term economic, infrastructure, and trade impacts rather than just raw construction costs.”
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“ Novelis Inc., a subsidiary of India-based Hindalco Industries Limited (Aditya Birla Group), is building a $4.1 billion+ low-carbon aluminum recycling and rolling plant in Bay Minette, Alabama. Scheduled to commission in the second half of 2026, it is the first fully integrated aluminum mill built in the U.S. in 40 years, aiming to create 1,000 jobs and recycle 15B+ cans annually.”
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A_Gupta wrote: 11 Mar 2026 16:28 “A new 160,000 barrel-per-day (bpd) refinery generally costs between $5 billion and $6 billion for construction. However, a specific 2026 project, "America First Refining" in Texas, is being touted as a $300 billion project, though this figure often includes associated long-term economic, infrastructure, and trade impacts rather than just raw construction costs.”
proposed refinery is still a fraction of the Jamnagar behemoth ., but interesting that Ambani is investing in 51% o of that refinery costs.,

the main feature is this refinery will be able to process all types of crude ., including the "tar" grade venezuelan using RILs proprietary technology
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Re: India-US relations: News and Discussions IV

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What proprietary technology?
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sanjaykumar wrote: 11 Mar 2026 20:07 What proprietary technology?
Unique to Jamnagar but essentially replicates in US

Key Proprietary Technologies & Capabilities:
Advanced O2C (Oil-to-Chemicals) Conversion: The refinery uses proprietary technology to convert transportation fuels into valuable chemical building blocks and materials.
Plastic Waste Chemical Recycling: RIL has developed and patented technology to convert diverse plastic waste, including single-use and multi-layered plastics, into pyrolysis oil, which is then processed into circular polymers.
Carbon Capture and Utilization (CCU): The company is developing proprietary, next-generation carbon capture and storage (CCS) technologies to turn
emissions into valuable materials, proteins, and fuels.
Operational Optimization (AI/Digital): Reliance utilizes advanced digital tools to manage the 1.4 million barrels per day (bpd) refinery complex, ensuring high-efficiency operations.
Sustainability Tech: The Jamnagar site employs proprietary methods for 100% recycling of solid waste and achieving zero water discharge
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