International Nuclear Watch & Discussion

[Vayutuvan]

Brittishits are anti-semitic. The Church of England aligns totally with the Lutherans.

[V_Raman]

Since when does BR quote anti-semitic tropes to dismiss facts - that is a low bar for the forum...

What the british ambassor said is the fact and needs to be accepted.

[Amber G.]

^^^ Agreed — let’s keep identity labels out of this. The International Atomic Energy Agency verified Iran’s compliance with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action up to 2018; that’s the technical baseline. The real debate is what followed — not unrelated claims about religion or ethnicity.

[Vayutuvan]

Trope?!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemit ... #Incidents

Incidents[edit]
In 2022, 17% of hate crimes were against Jews, which account for 0.5% of the British population.[65] As well as hate crimes reported to the police, the Community Security Trust (CST) monitors incidents reported by members of the public. The majority of reports of antisemitic incidents are from areas where most Jews live: Metropolitan London, Greater Manchester and Hertfordshire.[66] Over 2014–18, around one fifth of the reported incidents occurred on social media. The level typically rises following events related to Israel or the wider Middle East.[67]

The CST reported a large rise in incidents after the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict, 2021 Israel-Palestine crisis, and the ongoing Gaza war (2023–ongoing). For example, in 2021 a convoy of cars with Palestinian flags driving through East Finchley, an area of London with a sizeable Jewish community, and the driver of one of the cars being recorded yelling "****** their [Jews] mothers, rape their daughters".[68] The sharp rise in the number of reported incidents from 2016 onwards followed increased media coverage of antisemitism and may be an increase in actual incidents, or in reporting, or both. Around a quarter of reported incidents in 2018 took place on social media. The largest increases are in threats and abusive behaviour. The Trust believes that the total number of incidents is significantly higher than that reported.[69]

[Vayutuvan]

The only reason Iran wants nuclear bums is to finish off Israel. It is also a fact that Obama gave pallets of cash to the Iranian regime. How much of that went into Iran's nuclear program (to buy stuff from Eurotrash) is anybody's guess. A regime that torments, executes, and otherwise oppresses dissenters is a regime that should not be trusted to act in good faith.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narges_Mo ... _statement

January 2026 public statement[edit]
On 28 January 2026, the Narges Mohammadi Human Rights Foundation, along with several other Iranian intellectuals, including Amirsalar Davoudi, Hatam Ghaderi, Abolfazl Ghadyani, Mehdi Mahmoudian, Abdollah Momeni, Mohammad Najafi, Jafar Panahi, Mohammad Rasoulof, Nasrin Sotoudeh, and Sedigheh Vasmaghi, published a statement on Instagram asserting that the 2026 Iran massacres were a crime against humanity, accusing Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Khamenei of holding principal responsibility.[53]

[bala]

It is also a fact that Obama gave pallets of cash to the Iranian regime. How much of that went into Iran's nuclear program (to buy stuff from Eurotrash) is anybody's guess.

This Obama character of the US is one of the biggest con job characters the US has produced, him getting a Nobel Peace says it all. He was anti-India despite all the pretense lectures he gave. He doubled the US debt during his regime.

[Lisa]

The Deputy Speaker of the Iranian Parliament: “We tried to develop nuclear weapons, but couldn't keep it secret.”

https://x.com/EYakoby/status/2034617582876303461

Now let's all remember, Obama and Co who knew how to sanction India had no idea what Iran was upto.

[chetak]

The Deputy Speaker of the Iranian Parliament: “We tried to develop nuclear weapons, but couldn't keep it secret.”

https://x.com/EYakoby/status/2034617582876303461

Now let's all remember, Obama and Co who knew how to sanction India had no idea what Iran was upto.

Lisa ji,


why does everyone forget that he is Barack Hussein Obama, always was and always will be.


one doesn't doubt that he carries the traditional mark of the knife that his kind do


that established, why would anyone be surprised.............


we had a vp called ansari and a president called narayanan and both showed their true abrahamic colors while they were in office

[A_Gupta]

Gemini 3:

The "Cheating" Debate: Contextual Perspectives

Perspective - Argument on "Cheating"

Russia & China - View Iran's nuclear escalations as legal "remedial measures" allowed under the JCPOA when other parties fail to meet their commitments.

IAEA & Western Allies - Have documented "technical violations," including stockpiling uranium beyond limits and failing to explain traces at undeclared sites.

Israeli Intelligence - Claims archived documents prove Iran never intended to stop its weapons program and merely "lied" about its past activities.

Critics of the Deal - Argue the deal's lack of oversight on ballistic missiles and temporary "sunset clauses" allowed Iran to prepare for future weaponization without technically breaking the rules.

[A_Gupta]

Source of the Deputy Speaker quote:
https://jcfa.org/article/former-iranian ... r-weapons/

Amid the moribund nuclear talks in Vienna, on April 24, 2022, former Deputy Chairman of the Iranian Parliament, Ali Motahhari, said in an interview with the Iran Student Correspondents Association (ISCA) that from the start of its nuclear program, Iran sought to produce nuclear weapons but changed the policy at a later stage. “At the beginning, when we launched the nuclear program, our aim was to develop the bomb and improve our deterrent power.” Motahhari quoted parts of Surah al Anfal (60): “And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy.” “However,” Motahhari continued, “we failed to keep it a secret, and our confidential reports were revealed by the monafeqin (hypocrites) [i.e., the exiled opposition organization, Mujahideen Khalq].”1

Motahhari added:

A country that wants to have a peaceful nuclear program never starts with enrichment but constructs a reactor and then starts the enrichment process. When we enrich [uranium] straight away, it creates the impression that we want to develop the bomb…. If we could have developed a bomb secretly and tested it like Pakistan did, it would have been a strong deterrent and international players would have been more considerate of Iran’s status. Other countries rely on nuclear strength. I believe that when we start something, we should see it through to the end…. Iran can build a nuclear bomb because sharia law prohibits only the use of it and not the production of the atomic bomb. [But] Now, the opinion of the Supreme Leader [Ali Khamenei] is that developing a nuclear bomb is definitely haram [religiously forbidden].

Motahhari, asked if his words might influence the future of the faltering Vienna nuclear talks, said, “No one listens to what I say. I have no official post, and my words are my opinion only.”2

[A_Gupta]

An interpretation could be that a faction in Iran does want the nuclear bomb; that eventually Ayatollah Khamenei ruled against them, but did not stop their preparations for a post-Khamenei period.

[Jay]

Trope?!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemit ... #Incidents

Incidents[edit]
In 2022, 17% of hate crimes were against Jews, which account for 0.5% of the British population.[65] As well as hate crimes reported to the police, the Community Security Trust (CST) monitors incidents reported by members of the public. The majority of reports of antisemitic incidents are from areas where most Jews live: Metropolitan London, Greater Manchester and Hertfordshire.[66] Over 2014–18, around one fifth of the reported incidents occurred on social media. The level typically rises following events related to Israel or the wider Middle East.[67]

The CST reported a large rise in incidents after the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict, 2021 Israel-Palestine crisis, and the ongoing Gaza war (2023–ongoing). For example, in 2021 a convoy of cars with Palestinian flags driving through East Finchley, an area of London with a sizeable Jewish community, and the driver of one of the cars being recorded yelling "****** their [Jews] mothers, rape their daughters".[68] The sharp rise in the number of reported incidents from 2016 onwards followed increased media coverage of antisemitism and may be an increase in actual incidents, or in reporting, or both. Around a quarter of reported incidents in 2018 took place on social media. The largest increases are in threats and abusive behaviour. The Trust believes that the total number of incidents is significantly higher than that reported.[69]

Were church of england and lutherans committing these crimes in englistan! They are also so anti semitic that they will lock up people for yelling the wrong slogan.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/internat ... n-protests

[Jay]

The Deputy Speaker of the Iranian Parliament: “We tried to develop nuclear weapons, but couldn't keep it secret.”

https://x.com/EYakoby/status/2034617582876303461

Now let's all remember, Obama and Co who knew how to sanction India had no idea what Iran was upto.

This is puzzling. When did ombaba impose sanctions against India?

In 2011, the Obama administration removed key Indian defense and space organizations (including ISRO and DRDO) from the U.S. "entity list" (black list). His administration also removed restrictions on high-technology trade, facilitating easier trade with India.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-as ... 0blacklist.

Ombaba's admin lifted travel restriction imposed on Modiji by the republican admin in 2005.

https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/sca/rls/rm/2005/43701.htm

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/20/india/in ... t-intl-hnk

[Lisa]

^Barack Obama’s legacy weighs down U.S.-India nuclear deal

https://chellaney.net/2008/06/17/barack ... lear-deal/

also, did he remove restrictions on Modi's travel BEFORE he was elected or after?

Furthermore,

In parting shot, Obama prods India on religious freedom

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/i ... KBN0L00FD/

He was and remains a class 1 racist, and apologetic is..mist pr1ck!

P.S. Senator Obama: “Is it the managers’ understanding that provision of a fuel to the Government of India should be sized in a way to maintain a deterrent to Indian nuclear testing…in other words, is it your understanding that providing a fuel reserve to India is not intended to facilitate a resumption in nuclear testing?”
Senator Lugar: “Yes, that is our understanding.”

[Amber G.]

Late Iran Supreme leader Ali Khamenei had "issued both administrative & religious directives prohibiting any move toward" development of nuclear weapons, Iran Prez Pezeshkian tells PM Modi

[Vayutuvan]

One ayatollah issues a directive. The next ayatollah can cancel the directive.

[Amber G.]

for context recent newsL : From reliable news sources:

Iranian missiles struck southern Israel, especially around the Dimona area, near its main nuclear research center — the Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center. Dozens of civilians were injured in those strikes.

Iran also reported that its Natanz nuclear facility, Iran’s principal uranium enrichment site, was hit in a strike. Israeli and U.S. forces were widely reported to have targeted Natanz earlier in the conflict.


For bacground: Natanz (Iran)

Iran’s main uranium enrichment facility southeast of Tehran — where uranium is processed and enriched. Reports from today’s fighting and earlier strikes say Natanz has been struck, damaging buildings but not causing a reported nuclear release.
(Natanz has been repeatedly targeted in this conflict )

Shimon Peres Negev Nuclear Research Center (Israel)

This is Israel’s primary nuclear research site near Dimona. Iranian missiles hit areas near this facility today, marking a notable escalation because it’s tied to Israeli strategic infrastructure.

[Amber G.]

Ignoring the usual low-effort trolling — imaginary villains, selective outrage, and hero worship — let’s stick to facts, not fan fiction.

My point was - Why the Iran “nuclear crisis” narrative is mostly hype

- The 2015 Iran deal actually worked. It slowed their nuclear program, added real oversight, and kept the world watching. It didn’t give them a bomb, it stretched the timeline.

- Then Trump came in, with a bunch of non‑experts like Jared Kushner & Elliott Witcoff, and tore the deal up. Boom — a technical, complicated diplomatic solution turns into a political mess.

- 2025 briefings made it clear: Iran wasn’t an imminent nuclear threat. Even Tulsi Gabbard pointed out the intelligence didn’t back the “urgent bomb” narrative.

- Fast forward to today: missiles are hitting southern Israel, near Dimona’s nuclear site, and reports say Natanz in Iran is also under attack. Suddenly, the “crisis” Trump claimed to see is real in a totally avoidable way.

- Iran’s president just talked to Modi, stressing they don’t want a nuclear bomb, and called on BRICS & regional powers to help stop the fighting.

- Regional players like Qatar warned back in 2025: the “imminent threat” story is overblown, and military escalation could blow up far worse than the nuclear question itself.

- Bottom line: diplomacy + technical oversight worked. Tossing that aside and hyping up danger based on political theater instead of facts made Natanz and Dimona flashpoints, and here we are — missiles, strikes, and tensions spiraling.

- Moral of the story: wars don’t start because of inevitability — they start because people ignore the solutions that worked and hype the fear that didn’t exist.

[Vayutuvan]

Ignoring the usual low-effort trolling — imaginary villains, selective outrage, and hero worship — let’s stick to facts, not fan fiction.

My point was - Why the Iran “nuclear crisis” narrative is mostly hype
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Sire, if you are talking about me, I have to say au contraire. I put in just enough effort to make my point.

It is naive to think that the decision to attack Iran was solely based on how close they are/are not to gaining a nuclear bomb.

If you feel trolled, then ignore. Let others decide whether you and others are getting influenced by their own poilitical biases, IOW TDS and hero worship of the democrat leaders like Obama/Hillary C/Kamala Harris/Joe Biden/John Kerry/Al Gore.

[Amber G.]

As said in हितोपदेश

'पापशङ्की स्वभावेन यः पापं कुरुते जनः। भीतः पापप्रकटीकरणे॥

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But for those who are interested and capable in understanding physics - some background and reference:

This excellent New York Times article by David E. Sanger (2015), details the technical partnership between Ernest Moniz and Ali Akbar Salehi which I talked about. A must read.
"Negotiators in Iran Talks Argue Physics Behind Politics"

Key Details:
The "MIT Connection": The article highlights the unique dynamic between the two men. Ernest Moniz (then U.S. Secretary of Energy) was a former MIT physics professor, and Ali Akbar Salehi (head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization) earned his PhD in nuclear engineering from MIT in the 1970s. This shared background allowed them to solve technical obstacles that had stalled diplomats for years.

Physics as a Bridge - While political negotiators like John Kerry and Javad Zarif hit walls over "red lines," Moniz and Salehi were often seen off to the side, scribbling formulas and "arguing physics." This allowed them to find creative engineering solutions to political demands, such as how to repurpose centrifuges or modify the Arak heavy-water reactor so it could not produce weapons-grade plutonium.

Another article I remember and noted in BRF by me around the same time was some of the worlds top scientists (including Nobel laureates and veteran arms-control experts) praised the deal as a masterpiece of technical verification. Knowing Salehi and Moniz, and physics there, I agree that that praise was justified.

The deal was :
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more innovative and stringent constraints than any previously negotiated nonproliferation framework." It . moved the issue from "trust" to "verifiable physics,,,such as monitoring the entire uranium supply chain for 25 years.

Aa said before - technical Solutions:

-Arak Reactor: Redesigning the core so it produced significantly less plutonium and requiring the original core to be filled with concrete.
-Fordow Facility: Converting a fortified underground enrichment site into a "nuclear, physics, and technology center" for stable isotope production.
-Breakout Time: Using enrichment math to ensure that even if Iran cheated, it would take at least one year to gather enough material for a single weapon, giving the world time to react.

In the context of the 2026 conflict I am following Sanger's reporting (IMO, often the "gold standard" because he also maintains deep sources within the Intelligence Community and the Department of War.). For those who are worshipping Trump, let me say I am aware that his reporting has triggered a direct response from the White House to day and Trump mocked him on Truth Social, calling him a "failed analyst"

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I think I will move some of this in the new thread because it is more appropriate in there,. Please carry on the discussion there,