So now we have to listen to day traders who think that they know Brownian Motion, which is sufficient and necessary to predict markets - commodities, energy futures, and S&P.
Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
NJ people are like Hyenas. They hunt in packs. Yet they are slow to pick up many gauntlets that are lying on the ground for a while now.
And they have the temerity to call others "Pompous", hain? Whatever happened to our dear Cyberphysical CRamS? I like him, but not his chemchas. He is genuine.
But some fools use MATLAB to solve a few state-space problems of tens of millions and are self-satisfied that they have conquered the world of computation.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
You want to compare your testimonials with mine? Go ahead. Put up your testimonials.
If you ask me nicely, I will expend my goodwill (my friendship, really) to get you an interview with Sagar Enjeti on the Breaking Points. I doubt you are humble enough to ask, though.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
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Pulwama attack mastermind, Hamza Burhan, killed by unknown men in POK
New Delhi, UPDATED: May 21, 2026 16:05 IST
Unknown men at work again in Pakistan? One of the masterminds of the 2019 Pulwama attack, which left over 40 CRPF personnel dead, was killed by unknown gunmen in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (POK). A resident of Pulwama, Hamza Burhan, known as 'Doctor', was designated as a terrorist by the Union Home Ministry in 2022.
Burhan, whose original name is Arjumand Gulzar Dar, sustained multiple bullet injuries after he was attacked in Muzaffarabad by unidentified assailants. For those who have watched Dhurandhar, the moment feels eerily familiar. In fact, in the past couple of years, several designated terrorists have been eliminated in Pakistan and POK.
WHO IS HAMZA BURHAN?
Born in Kharbatpora in the Ratnipora area of Pulwama, Burhan left for Pakistan in 2017 under the pretext of pursuing higher studies. However, he joined the banned terror outfit Al-Badr and soon rose to the rank of commander in the outfit.
He returned to Kashmir later and was involved in radicalising youth and indoctrinating them. In South Kashmir, Burhan expanded his network from Pulwama to Shopian.
In fact, according to a report in The Print, families across Pulwama have recounted how youths who encountered Burhan gradually slipped into militancy.
Burhan has been linked to several terror-related activities in Jammu and Kashmir, including the February 14, 2019, Pulwama attack.
The Pulwama incident was the deadliest attack on security personnel in India, carried out by the Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM). A JeM terrorist rammed an explosives-laden car into a convoy of the CRPF at Lethpora, killing 40 personnel.
Read full news article from here.
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/h ... 2026-05-21
Other links
Who is Hamza Burhan? Pulwama attack mastermind, shot dead by unknown gunmen in PoK
Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst
Pulwama attack mastermind Hamza Burhan shot dead in Pakistan by unknown gunmen: Sources
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/ ... 21-1041947
Pulwama attack mastermind, Hamza Burhan, killed by unknown men in POK
New Delhi, UPDATED: May 21, 2026 16:05 IST
Unknown men at work again in Pakistan? One of the masterminds of the 2019 Pulwama attack, which left over 40 CRPF personnel dead, was killed by unknown gunmen in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (POK). A resident of Pulwama, Hamza Burhan, known as 'Doctor', was designated as a terrorist by the Union Home Ministry in 2022.
Burhan, whose original name is Arjumand Gulzar Dar, sustained multiple bullet injuries after he was attacked in Muzaffarabad by unidentified assailants. For those who have watched Dhurandhar, the moment feels eerily familiar. In fact, in the past couple of years, several designated terrorists have been eliminated in Pakistan and POK.
WHO IS HAMZA BURHAN?
Born in Kharbatpora in the Ratnipora area of Pulwama, Burhan left for Pakistan in 2017 under the pretext of pursuing higher studies. However, he joined the banned terror outfit Al-Badr and soon rose to the rank of commander in the outfit.
He returned to Kashmir later and was involved in radicalising youth and indoctrinating them. In South Kashmir, Burhan expanded his network from Pulwama to Shopian.
In fact, according to a report in The Print, families across Pulwama have recounted how youths who encountered Burhan gradually slipped into militancy.
Burhan has been linked to several terror-related activities in Jammu and Kashmir, including the February 14, 2019, Pulwama attack.
The Pulwama incident was the deadliest attack on security personnel in India, carried out by the Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM). A JeM terrorist rammed an explosives-laden car into a convoy of the CRPF at Lethpora, killing 40 personnel.
Read full news article from here.
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/h ... 2026-05-21
Other links
Who is Hamza Burhan? Pulwama attack mastermind, shot dead by unknown gunmen in PoK
Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ne ... aign=cppst
Pulwama attack mastermind Hamza Burhan shot dead in Pakistan by unknown gunmen: Sources
https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/world/ ... 21-1041947
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
I like that these guys are getting their permanent comeuppance.
What happened to that ISI Major who is supposed to have done 26/11, the guy who was on the phone to the scum in Mumbai? I l wouldn’t have minded that guy to be skinned alive.
And as I’m writing this post, will add that while strong and even vehemently opposed discussion is welcome, internet fights, especially when made personal only end up making every participant look worse than when they started.
What happened to that ISI Major who is supposed to have done 26/11, the guy who was on the phone to the scum in Mumbai? I l wouldn’t have minded that guy to be skinned alive.
And as I’m writing this post, will add that while strong and even vehemently opposed discussion is welcome, internet fights, especially when made personal only end up making every participant look worse than when they started.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Operation Hoor is ON!
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
CRS...That's a name I haven't seen here in a long time. I enjoyed his comments and POV, especially on India-US dhaaga.
Whatever happened to our dear Cyberphysical CRamS?
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Most-Wanted Terrorists Gather In Pakistan’s Islamabad For Funeral Of Al Badr Commander Hamza Burhan
Several wanted terrorists based in Pakistan were seen attending the funeral of Arjumand Gulzar Dar in Islamabad, drawing renewed attention to allegations that Pakistan shelters globally wanted terror operatives. Dar, a top commander of the banned Al-Badr outfit, was reportedly shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir before being buried in Islamabad. Visuals from the funeral showed the presence of Syed Salahuddin and Al-Badr chief Bakht Zameen Khan, along with heavy armed security. Terrorists carrying AK-47 rifles and other modern weapons were seen guarding the gathering. Reports suggested security around Zameen Khan had been intensified amid a series of mysterious killings of wanted terrorists in Pakistan and PoK in recent years.
Several wanted terrorists based in Pakistan were seen attending the funeral of Arjumand Gulzar Dar in Islamabad, drawing renewed attention to allegations that Pakistan shelters globally wanted terror operatives. Dar, a top commander of the banned Al-Badr outfit, was reportedly shot dead by unidentified gunmen in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir before being buried in Islamabad. Visuals from the funeral showed the presence of Syed Salahuddin and Al-Badr chief Bakht Zameen Khan, along with heavy armed security. Terrorists carrying AK-47 rifles and other modern weapons were seen guarding the gathering. Reports suggested security around Zameen Khan had been intensified amid a series of mysterious killings of wanted terrorists in Pakistan and PoK in recent years.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Multiple casualties - 30 dead and counting - reported in BLA led suicide bomb attack on military transport train in Pakistan
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vi ... 292411.cms
It’s absolute mayhem out there
Edit: links to video on Reddit, Pakistani sub and Al Jazeera YT Channel
https://www.reddit.com/r/chutyapa/s/cUFi3nRE7G
https://youtu.be/v2Nd50hNRUE?si=o6S0tJPr9ckPDSTE
Apparently the train was coming into a station; there was a car bomb in an adjacent parking lot a kilometre out from the station.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/vi ... 292411.cms
It’s absolute mayhem out there
Edit: links to video on Reddit, Pakistani sub and Al Jazeera YT Channel
https://www.reddit.com/r/chutyapa/s/cUFi3nRE7G
https://youtu.be/v2Nd50hNRUE?si=o6S0tJPr9ckPDSTE
Apparently the train was coming into a station; there was a car bomb in an adjacent parking lot a kilometre out from the station.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
https://sundayguardianlive.com/india/de ... ts-198657/
Delhi Terror Plot Foiled: 9 Held for Alleged Pak-Linked Plot; Delhi & Mumbai on Radar, Airports and Railway Stations Among Targets
Sumit Kumar, May 30, 2026
A major security operation in the national capital has led to the arrest of nine suspected operatives allegedly linked to a Pakistan-backed terror network. Investigators believe the group was planning attacks on critical infrastructure and security personnel in Delhi, prompting agencies to launch an extensive probe into what officials describe as a potentially serious national security threat.
The Delhi Police Special Cell carried out the operation and recovered weapons, explosives, and grenades from the accused. Authorities are now investigating the wider network, including possible links to handlers across the border and alleged connections with elements of the Mumbai underworld.
Nine Arrested in Delhi Police Special Cell Operation
The Special Cell’s NDR unit conducted the operation after tracking the activities of the suspects over an extended period.
Officials said the accused allegedly worked as part of an organised module and maintained contact with individuals believed to be connected to Pakistan-based networks. Investigators suspect that the group received instructions and logistical support from handlers operating outside India.
The arrested individuals are currently being questioned as agencies attempt to identify other members of the network.
Airport, Railway Stations and Power Infrastructure Under Scanner
According to preliminary findings, the suspects allegedly planned attacks on several strategically important locations.
Investigators are examining intelligence inputs suggesting that airports, railway stations, power plants, and other key facilities may have been among the intended targets.
Security agencies are also assessing whether any installations linked to national security were included in the group’s plans.
The possibility of attacks on critical infrastructure has led authorities to increase surveillance and strengthen security arrangements at sensitive locations.
Pakistan Link Emerges During Investigation
Investigators believe the alleged terror module operated under the direction of handlers associated with a Pakistan-backed network.
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Gautam
Delhi Terror Plot Foiled: 9 Held for Alleged Pak-Linked Plot; Delhi & Mumbai on Radar, Airports and Railway Stations Among Targets
Sumit Kumar, May 30, 2026
A major security operation in the national capital has led to the arrest of nine suspected operatives allegedly linked to a Pakistan-backed terror network. Investigators believe the group was planning attacks on critical infrastructure and security personnel in Delhi, prompting agencies to launch an extensive probe into what officials describe as a potentially serious national security threat.
The Delhi Police Special Cell carried out the operation and recovered weapons, explosives, and grenades from the accused. Authorities are now investigating the wider network, including possible links to handlers across the border and alleged connections with elements of the Mumbai underworld.
Nine Arrested in Delhi Police Special Cell Operation
The Special Cell’s NDR unit conducted the operation after tracking the activities of the suspects over an extended period.
Officials said the accused allegedly worked as part of an organised module and maintained contact with individuals believed to be connected to Pakistan-based networks. Investigators suspect that the group received instructions and logistical support from handlers operating outside India.
The arrested individuals are currently being questioned as agencies attempt to identify other members of the network.
Airport, Railway Stations and Power Infrastructure Under Scanner
According to preliminary findings, the suspects allegedly planned attacks on several strategically important locations.
Investigators are examining intelligence inputs suggesting that airports, railway stations, power plants, and other key facilities may have been among the intended targets.
Security agencies are also assessing whether any installations linked to national security were included in the group’s plans.
The possibility of attacks on critical infrastructure has led authorities to increase surveillance and strengthen security arrangements at sensitive locations.
Pakistan Link Emerges During Investigation
Investigators believe the alleged terror module operated under the direction of handlers associated with a Pakistan-backed network.
......
Gautam
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
This is imo development with strategic potential.
Absolute mayhem in PoK as the Pakjabi fauj massacred locals who had come together in huge numbers to demand change in power sharing.
Brief outline: POK locals want a change in governing structures that dilute the powers of Islamabad. This was refused, state forces opened fire on protestors, and now there’s a huge public outcry.
The primary clashes, killings, and lockdowns are centered in PoK cities like the capital Muzaffarabad and the Rawalakot area.
These events have significantly undermined Pakistan’s position as steward of Kashmiri rights, instead portraying it as a tyrant. It has rattled the Kashmiri public’s faith in the Pakjabi system.
There is much rona dhona, angst and self examination. Especially on Kashmir.
Read about some of it it here: https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 075418.ece
Absolute mayhem in PoK as the Pakjabi fauj massacred locals who had come together in huge numbers to demand change in power sharing.
Brief outline: POK locals want a change in governing structures that dilute the powers of Islamabad. This was refused, state forces opened fire on protestors, and now there’s a huge public outcry.
The primary clashes, killings, and lockdowns are centered in PoK cities like the capital Muzaffarabad and the Rawalakot area.
These events have significantly undermined Pakistan’s position as steward of Kashmiri rights, instead portraying it as a tyrant. It has rattled the Kashmiri public’s faith in the Pakjabi system.
There is much rona dhona, angst and self examination. Especially on Kashmir.
Read about some of it it here: https://www.thehindu.com/news/internati ... 075418.ece
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
I see news of protests by POJK emigrants in front of Pakistan’s consulates in UK and US.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
https://x.com/apf_ind/status/2064281189880627601
@apf_ind
Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is on fire
Dead bodies on streets
Police firing on crowds
Internet shutdown
Hospitals overflowing
In Rawalakot and across PoK, locals are out on the streets protesting Pakistani rule.
What’s really going on A thread
@apf_ind
Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is on fire
Dead bodies on streets
Police firing on crowds
Internet shutdown
Hospitals overflowing
In Rawalakot and across PoK, locals are out on the streets protesting Pakistani rule.
What’s really going on A thread
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Rawalakot, Kotli, Mirpur were the most rabid advocates of Pakistan in the years leading up to the partition in 1947, along with Poonch as well IIRC.
They made their bed. Now they sleep in it, or for that matter, die in it.
That said, I really hope that own govt agencies are looking at the situation and shall be able to use it to own advantage in whatever ways
They made their bed. Now they sleep in it, or for that matter, die in it.
That said, I really hope that own govt agencies are looking at the situation and shall be able to use it to own advantage in whatever ways
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
The land is ours.. the parasitic jihadis who occupy it must vacate it. Either living (go back to pakistan proper) or dead.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
Also, the vast majority are pakjabi moslems, hardly anyone speaks kasmiri language. We need the land without these mleccha ppl.kancha wrote: ↑12 Jun 2026 09:26 Rawalakot, Kotli, Mirpur were the most rabid advocates of Pakistan in the years leading up to the partition in 1947, along with Poonch as well IIRC.
They made their bed. Now they sleep in it, or for that matter, die in it.
That said, I really hope that own govt agencies are looking at the situation and shall be able to use it to own advantage in whatever ways
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
BTW this happens to most places where peacefuls live. When there is no external threat they fight with each other. We should let them fight. However Gilgit Baltistan is a different story. They are Shia and they are of completely different culture. Unfortunately we missed the opportunity to integrate them since the supreme leader listened to the Brits and went to the UN. Now the Pakis and the Chinese are exploiting their land.
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
ritesh wrote: ↑12 Jun 2026 11:02Also, the vast majority are pakjabi moslems, hardly anyone speaks kasmiri language. We need the land without these mleccha ppl.kancha wrote: ↑12 Jun 2026 09:26 Rawalakot, Kotli, Mirpur were the most rabid advocates of Pakistan in the years leading up to the partition in 1947, along with Poonch as well IIRC.
They made their bed. Now they sleep in it, or for that matter, die in it.
That said, I really hope that own govt agencies are looking at the situation and shall be able to use it to own advantage in whatever ways
ritesh ji,
The settlers are all retired pakjabi ex paki army men and their families
They are being specifically pushed in by the pakjabis to change the demography and to keep watch the locals, a policy that has been in vogue since the late 1940s but has gathered more steam in recent decades
the pakjabis are in eternal tension of these pok locals separating and making a bid to join India
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
https://sundayguardianlive.com/world/ch ... es-206524/
Chinese disclosures expose Pak military vulnerabilities
Abhinandan Mishra, June 14, 2026
In an extraordinary and highly calculated breach of operational security, detailed intelligence tracking frontline Pakistani military installations and naval assets has been broadcast to the global public domain.
The exposure is not the result of a Western intelligence operation or an Indian leak. Instead, it stems from deliberate, granular disclosures by a leading Chinese commercial remote sensing and AI intelligence firm, MizarVision. Operating its proprietary AirSpace platform, the Hangzhou-based entity has published high-definition satellite imagery and automated spatial assessments documenting sensitive developments at Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Base Nur Khan (Chaklala) and pinpointing Pakistan Navy assets currently docked in Sri Lanka.
By laying bare the concrete structural fixes and tactical vulnerabilities of an all-weather ally, Beijing has paradoxically exposed the systemic limitations of its own hardware exports. However, a deeper geopolitical reconstruction of these leaks suggests they are not routine technical updates.
Rather, they appear to form part of a sophisticated, multi-layered strategic signalling campaign conducted through Chinese commercial proxies to deliver targeted messages to Islamabad, New Delhi, Washington and the wider global defence establishment.
The public intelligence output uploaded by MizarVision encompasses two highly sensitive data operations.
The first concerns hardened runway and infrastructure upgrades at PAF Base Nur Khan. Overhead surveillance logs captured on 15 April 2026 and processed through automated AI object-detection systems show extensive modifications at the base. The data identifies the rapid construction of a reinforced concrete hangar measuring roughly 50-70 metres in length and 20-30 metres in width, designed to shelter between two and four medium multirole fighter aircraft, specifically identifying Chinese-supplied JF-17 Block III and J-10C fighters, as well as other high-value aviation assets.
Significantly, the Chinese assessment maps the construction site adjacent to the reported impact point of an Indian stand-off cruise missile from recent hostilities. The assessment characterises the new structure as a reactive measure intended to reduce vulnerability to future stand-off strike missions.
The AI-generated analysis describes an arched green-roof configuration employing specialised polymer coatings intended to reduce optical and infrared detectability, mirroring design features reportedly observed at other critical facilities such as PAF Base Bholari.
The second disclosure concerns Pakistani naval deployments in Sri Lanka. In material dated 5 June 2026, MizarVision released high-resolution imagery showing a Pakistan Navy task group berthed at a Sri Lankan port. Prominently identified by the platform’s automated classification systems was a Pakistani Agosta-90B diesel-electric attack submarine operating alongside escort frigates. The software automatically outlined and tagged the vessels, effectively exposing the submarine’s location and undermining its principal operational advantage, stealth, while deployed outside Pakistani waters.
The paradox of a Chinese entity publicly revealing the structural vulnerabilities and military damage sustained by the armed forces of Beijing’s closest regional partner can be better understood through the intense competition within China’s military-industrial ecosystem.
China’s defence technology sector is not a unified structure. It is an intensely competitive environment where state-owned conglomerates and emerging commercial intelligence firms compete for funding, influence and military contracts.
The frontline air-defence systems deployed by Pakistan, including the HQ-9 and HQ-16 surface-to-air missile networks whose effectiveness came under scrutiny following Indian strikes during Operation Sindoor, are products of major state-owned defence giants such as the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) and the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC). MizarVision, by contrast, represents a commercial AI intelligence company seeking access to investment capital, political prestige and future People’s Liberation Army procurement programmes.
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Gautam
Chinese disclosures expose Pak military vulnerabilities
Abhinandan Mishra, June 14, 2026
In an extraordinary and highly calculated breach of operational security, detailed intelligence tracking frontline Pakistani military installations and naval assets has been broadcast to the global public domain.
The exposure is not the result of a Western intelligence operation or an Indian leak. Instead, it stems from deliberate, granular disclosures by a leading Chinese commercial remote sensing and AI intelligence firm, MizarVision. Operating its proprietary AirSpace platform, the Hangzhou-based entity has published high-definition satellite imagery and automated spatial assessments documenting sensitive developments at Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Base Nur Khan (Chaklala) and pinpointing Pakistan Navy assets currently docked in Sri Lanka.
By laying bare the concrete structural fixes and tactical vulnerabilities of an all-weather ally, Beijing has paradoxically exposed the systemic limitations of its own hardware exports. However, a deeper geopolitical reconstruction of these leaks suggests they are not routine technical updates.
Rather, they appear to form part of a sophisticated, multi-layered strategic signalling campaign conducted through Chinese commercial proxies to deliver targeted messages to Islamabad, New Delhi, Washington and the wider global defence establishment.
The public intelligence output uploaded by MizarVision encompasses two highly sensitive data operations.
The first concerns hardened runway and infrastructure upgrades at PAF Base Nur Khan. Overhead surveillance logs captured on 15 April 2026 and processed through automated AI object-detection systems show extensive modifications at the base. The data identifies the rapid construction of a reinforced concrete hangar measuring roughly 50-70 metres in length and 20-30 metres in width, designed to shelter between two and four medium multirole fighter aircraft, specifically identifying Chinese-supplied JF-17 Block III and J-10C fighters, as well as other high-value aviation assets.
Significantly, the Chinese assessment maps the construction site adjacent to the reported impact point of an Indian stand-off cruise missile from recent hostilities. The assessment characterises the new structure as a reactive measure intended to reduce vulnerability to future stand-off strike missions.
The AI-generated analysis describes an arched green-roof configuration employing specialised polymer coatings intended to reduce optical and infrared detectability, mirroring design features reportedly observed at other critical facilities such as PAF Base Bholari.
The second disclosure concerns Pakistani naval deployments in Sri Lanka. In material dated 5 June 2026, MizarVision released high-resolution imagery showing a Pakistan Navy task group berthed at a Sri Lankan port. Prominently identified by the platform’s automated classification systems was a Pakistani Agosta-90B diesel-electric attack submarine operating alongside escort frigates. The software automatically outlined and tagged the vessels, effectively exposing the submarine’s location and undermining its principal operational advantage, stealth, while deployed outside Pakistani waters.
The paradox of a Chinese entity publicly revealing the structural vulnerabilities and military damage sustained by the armed forces of Beijing’s closest regional partner can be better understood through the intense competition within China’s military-industrial ecosystem.
China’s defence technology sector is not a unified structure. It is an intensely competitive environment where state-owned conglomerates and emerging commercial intelligence firms compete for funding, influence and military contracts.
The frontline air-defence systems deployed by Pakistan, including the HQ-9 and HQ-16 surface-to-air missile networks whose effectiveness came under scrutiny following Indian strikes during Operation Sindoor, are products of major state-owned defence giants such as the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation (CASC) and the China Aerospace Science and Industry Corporation (CASIC). MizarVision, by contrast, represents a commercial AI intelligence company seeking access to investment capital, political prestige and future People’s Liberation Army procurement programmes.
......
Gautam
Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
QUETTA: A court in Pakistan’s southwestern Balochistan province on Monday sentenced prominent Baloch rights activist Dr. Mahrang Baloch and a fellow activist to life imprisonment after convicting them of inciting a mob that killed a paramilitary soldier during a protest in Gwadar in 2024.
Baloch, 33, who heads the Baloch Yakjehti Committee (BYC) rights group, was placed under administrative detention by the Balochistan provincial government on March 22, 2025, accused of terrorism, sedition, and murder after leading a protest.
Following her detention, the United Nations (UN) had expressed concern for the trainee surgeon, who was named by Time Magazine and the British Broadcasting Corporation as one of the 100 rising leaders and 100 most inspiring women in 2024, respectively.
The ATC verdict by special judge Muhammad Ali Mobeen declared Baloch and Sibghatullah, a BYC member, guilty under sections 302 (b), 147 and 148 of the Pakistan Penal Code for participation in unlawful assembly of the BYC and instigating the mob that killed Frontier Corps (FC) Sepoy Shabir Ahmed in Gwadar.
Baloch, 33, who heads the Baloch Yakjehti Committee (BYC) rights group, was placed under administrative detention by the Balochistan provincial government on March 22, 2025, accused of terrorism, sedition, and murder after leading a protest.
Following her detention, the United Nations (UN) had expressed concern for the trainee surgeon, who was named by Time Magazine and the British Broadcasting Corporation as one of the 100 rising leaders and 100 most inspiring women in 2024, respectively.
The ATC verdict by special judge Muhammad Ali Mobeen declared Baloch and Sibghatullah, a BYC member, guilty under sections 302 (b), 147 and 148 of the Pakistan Penal Code for participation in unlawful assembly of the BYC and instigating the mob that killed Frontier Corps (FC) Sepoy Shabir Ahmed in Gwadar.
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Re: Terroristan - March 31, 2022
While scanning Reddit/r/pakistan, which I generally find to be an over the top forum, came across a beautiful discussion describing Pakistan's relationship with it's army. I would recommend forum members to go through this discussion to have aview from the other side. And for the fact that the discussions opened my eyes to some hitherto blind spots as to why the army literally took over the state, Of course, with more insights we will have a better understanding but for now this gave me hitherto not there clarity.
It was posted 3 days ago, 207 upvotes and 80 comments. Interesting discussion.
Would recommend interested members to also go through the comments thread. Particularly MollaJutt127, Material-Giraffe3406, Prize6923 who add on value from different angles.
Pasting AI summary below:
The Colonial Ghost in the Machine: Why Pakistan’s Army Functions Like an Occupying Force
In the sprawling urban centers of Pakistan, there is a phrase that perfectly captures the sociological chasm between the state and its subjects: "bloody civilian." It is a term of derision, a linguistic relic of the British Raj, still whispered within the manicured confines of "cantonments"—the gated military enclaves that dot the country’s landscape. This vocabulary of arrogance is the smoke rising from a much larger fire. In a nation where every civilian institution appears to be a study in entropy, the Pakistan Army stands as a startling, well-oiled anomaly.
To understand this paradox, one must view Pakistan as the quintessential praetorian state. Like the Roman Praetorian Guard that eventually dictated the rise and fall of emperors, the Pakistan military has manipulated itself into near-total control of national affairs. But the army’s dominance is not merely a post-independence power grab. It is a haunting. The Pakistan Army is not a national defender in the traditional Westphalian sense; it is the direct institutional successor to a colonial apparatus designed to control, rather than serve, the population. It is an army that never stopped being an occupying force.
The Inherited Behemoth: Why Pakistan Was Born a Garrison State
The structural dominance of the military was a ticking time bomb placed at the heart of the new state in 1947. When the British Indian Army was partitioned, Pakistan inherited a massive statistical discrepancy. While the nation held less than a quarter of the subcontinent’s population, it received 36% of its military apparatus—approximately 140,000 troops out of a 400,000-man force.
This imbalance was particularly jarring in West Pakistan. With a population of only 33 million, it inherited nearly half of the British military machine, making the region ten times more militarized per capita than its Indian counterpart. This statistical imbalance was massively consequential. While India and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) were forced to build their political structures organically, West Pakistan inherited a fully developed, hyper-professionalized military machine that immediately dwarfed its infant civilian institutions. The state was not born with an army; the army was born with a state.
The Myth of the "Martial Races"
The army’s internal cohesion is rooted in the British "martial races doctrine," a pseudo-scientific colonial policy that posited certain ethnic groups—specifically Punjabi Muslims and Pakhtuns—were genetically superior for combat. The British favored these groups not for their bravery, but for their perceived loyalty and willingness to police other "lesser" ethnicities.
The Pakistan Army maintained this recruitment pattern with religious fervor after 1947. As the source context highlights:
"The British had what was called the 'martial races doctrine,' which essentially held that certain colonized races were more genetically superior for fighting... the Pakistan Army recruited from [these] post-independence... to this day."
This self-perpetuating recruitment cycle created a culturally homogenous "elite" that viewed the rest of the diverse, multi-ethnic population through the same lens the British once did: as indigenous locals to be managed, rather than citizens to be served.
The Maturity Gap: Why the "Machine" Always Wins
There is a popular myth that the military stepped into a power vacuum simply because civilian politicians were "corrupt." The sociological reality is more nuanced. Pakistan began its journey with a "lethal combination": a highly professionalized military hierarchy paired against brand-new, fractured civilian institutions.
Imagine a group of friends with no experience trying to launch a global tech company; that was the early Muslim League. Pakistan cycled through seven Prime Ministers in its first ten years and took nearly a decade to draft a constitution. The death of Muhammad Ali Jinnah just thirteen months after independence removed the only civilian leader with the "national project" standing to check the military’s growth.
Crucially, while the Civil Service (ICS) initially held the reins of power, it was systematically "neutered" by the military’s superior organizational culture. In a nation plagued by tribalism and nepotism, the army maintained a meritocratic, "wait your turn" hierarchy established by the British. In most fledgling nations, military factions fight each other—Syria once had three coups in a single year—but the Pakistan Army’s top-down discipline ensured that when it moved, it moved as a singular, irresistible monolith.
The Internalized "Civilizing Mission" of Ayub Khan
The era of Ayub Khan—the first indigenous army chief—revealed the army’s internalized colonial DNA. Sandhurst-trained and deeply Anglicized, Ayub Khan viewed the Pakistani public with the patronizing gaze of a British District Commissioner. In his autobiography, Friends Not Masters, he argued that the local population was effectively "uncivilized" and unready for the rigors of democracy.
His "Basic Democracies" system was the ultimate manifestation of this mindset: a set of "training wheels" designed to keep the population under administrative supervision. There was a surreal cultural dissonance at play: while the army command conducted its business in the high English of their colonial predecessors, they were busy forcing linguistic and cultural changes on the population (such as Urdu on the Bengalis). Ayub believed he had been "civilized" by the British and that his mission was to civilize the masses by any means necessary.
The Mask Slips: 1971 and the Logic of Occupation
If one requires proof that the army operates as an occupying force, they need only look at Operation Searchlight in 1971. The military’s crackdown in East Pakistan was not a standard counter-insurgency; it was a collective punishment tactic designed to ensure the population remained a "rural peasant" class.
The targeted massacre of intellectuals at Dhaka University was a calculated move to decapitate the Bengali intellectual class. The goal was to ensure the survivors would be too poor, illiterate, and fragmented to ever form a unified political bloc again. It was the same logic the British used after the 1857 revolt: crush the "natives" so thoroughly that the thought of self-governance becomes an impossibility.
Zia-ul-Haq: The Master of Psychological Occupation
Where Ayub Khan used administrative control, General Zia-ul-Haq mastered psychological occupation. Zia understood that to maintain absolute control after removing a democratically elected leader, he needed a different kind of legitimacy. He weaponized Islam to delegitimize his opponents, labeling labor unions, leftists, and political rivals as "unislamic."
Zia transformed the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) into a "state within a state." While Arab "mukhabarat" forces typically exist outside military command to prevent coups, the ISI was integrated into the army, creating a pervasive internal police force that monitored the psyche of the nation. As the source notes:
"He manipulated millions in the nation into supporting him merely because he invoked Islam... Zia understood the nation he was working with lacked critical thinking when it came to people who invoked Islam."
This "Zia Script"—of stroking egos and playing double games—remains the army’s primary tool for foreign and domestic policy. Today, we see General Asim Munir utilizing the same playbook, manipulating foreign leaders like Trump with the same "loyalist" veneer Zia once used on Reagan.
The Modern Extraction Machine
Today, the colonial legacy has matured into a sophisticated extraction machine. The military is no longer just a political actor; it is an economic titan, controlling entire sectors of the economy from sugar to fertilizers. It functions as the "face" of a broader elite capture, upholding the interests of feudal lords and business magnates who are more than happy to "invite the military in" to preserve the status quo.
In most sovereign nations, the army is a tool used by the people for their protection. In Pakistan, the people are a tool used by the army for its preservation. The military continues to orchestrate political shifts and ensure that no civilian Prime Minister ever finishes a term, following a 200-year-old script originally written for an occupying force.
Conclusion: The Persistence of the Script
The tragedy of Pakistan is that it never truly healed from colonization; it merely shifted from foreign occupiers to indigenous ones who inherited the same "control the colonized" mentality. The military is the vanguard of a system that keeps the population fragmented and illiterate to prevent the rise of a unified democratic voice.
We are left with a chilling sociological reality: the "well-oiled machine" of the army exists only because the rest of the nation is intentionally kept in a state of friction. Can a nation truly find its soul when the very institution meant to protect it is still reading from a colonial script of occupation?
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The Colonial Ghost in the Machine: Why Pakistan’s Army Functions Like an Occupying Force
In the sprawling urban centers of Pakistan, there is a phrase that perfectly captures the sociological chasm between the state and its subjects: "bloody civilian." It is a term of derision, a linguistic relic of the British Raj, still whispered within the manicured confines of "cantonments"—the gated military enclaves that dot the country’s landscape. This vocabulary of arrogance is the smoke rising from a much larger fire. In a nation where every civilian institution appears to be a study in entropy, the Pakistan Army stands as a startling, well-oiled anomaly.
To understand this paradox, one must view Pakistan as the quintessential praetorian state. Like the Roman Praetorian Guard that eventually dictated the rise and fall of emperors, the Pakistan military has manipulated itself into near-total control of national affairs. But the army’s dominance is not merely a post-independence power grab. It is a haunting. The Pakistan Army is not a national defender in the traditional Westphalian sense; it is the direct institutional successor to a colonial apparatus designed to control, rather than serve, the population. It is an army that never stopped being an occupying force.
The Inherited Behemoth: Why Pakistan Was Born a Garrison State
The structural dominance of the military was a ticking time bomb placed at the heart of the new state in 1947. When the British Indian Army was partitioned, Pakistan inherited a massive statistical discrepancy. While the nation held less than a quarter of the subcontinent’s population, it received 36% of its military apparatus—approximately 140,000 troops out of a 400,000-man force.
This imbalance was particularly jarring in West Pakistan. With a population of only 33 million, it inherited nearly half of the British military machine, making the region ten times more militarized per capita than its Indian counterpart. This statistical imbalance was massively consequential. While India and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) were forced to build their political structures organically, West Pakistan inherited a fully developed, hyper-professionalized military machine that immediately dwarfed its infant civilian institutions. The state was not born with an army; the army was born with a state.
The Myth of the "Martial Races"
The army’s internal cohesion is rooted in the British "martial races doctrine," a pseudo-scientific colonial policy that posited certain ethnic groups—specifically Punjabi Muslims and Pakhtuns—were genetically superior for combat. The British favored these groups not for their bravery, but for their perceived loyalty and willingness to police other "lesser" ethnicities.
The Pakistan Army maintained this recruitment pattern with religious fervor after 1947. As the source context highlights:
"The British had what was called the 'martial races doctrine,' which essentially held that certain colonized races were more genetically superior for fighting... the Pakistan Army recruited from [these] post-independence... to this day."
This self-perpetuating recruitment cycle created a culturally homogenous "elite" that viewed the rest of the diverse, multi-ethnic population through the same lens the British once did: as indigenous locals to be managed, rather than citizens to be served.
The Maturity Gap: Why the "Machine" Always Wins
There is a popular myth that the military stepped into a power vacuum simply because civilian politicians were "corrupt." The sociological reality is more nuanced. Pakistan began its journey with a "lethal combination": a highly professionalized military hierarchy paired against brand-new, fractured civilian institutions.
Imagine a group of friends with no experience trying to launch a global tech company; that was the early Muslim League. Pakistan cycled through seven Prime Ministers in its first ten years and took nearly a decade to draft a constitution. The death of Muhammad Ali Jinnah just thirteen months after independence removed the only civilian leader with the "national project" standing to check the military’s growth.
Crucially, while the Civil Service (ICS) initially held the reins of power, it was systematically "neutered" by the military’s superior organizational culture. In a nation plagued by tribalism and nepotism, the army maintained a meritocratic, "wait your turn" hierarchy established by the British. In most fledgling nations, military factions fight each other—Syria once had three coups in a single year—but the Pakistan Army’s top-down discipline ensured that when it moved, it moved as a singular, irresistible monolith.
The Internalized "Civilizing Mission" of Ayub Khan
The era of Ayub Khan—the first indigenous army chief—revealed the army’s internalized colonial DNA. Sandhurst-trained and deeply Anglicized, Ayub Khan viewed the Pakistani public with the patronizing gaze of a British District Commissioner. In his autobiography, Friends Not Masters, he argued that the local population was effectively "uncivilized" and unready for the rigors of democracy.
His "Basic Democracies" system was the ultimate manifestation of this mindset: a set of "training wheels" designed to keep the population under administrative supervision. There was a surreal cultural dissonance at play: while the army command conducted its business in the high English of their colonial predecessors, they were busy forcing linguistic and cultural changes on the population (such as Urdu on the Bengalis). Ayub believed he had been "civilized" by the British and that his mission was to civilize the masses by any means necessary.
The Mask Slips: 1971 and the Logic of Occupation
If one requires proof that the army operates as an occupying force, they need only look at Operation Searchlight in 1971. The military’s crackdown in East Pakistan was not a standard counter-insurgency; it was a collective punishment tactic designed to ensure the population remained a "rural peasant" class.
The targeted massacre of intellectuals at Dhaka University was a calculated move to decapitate the Bengali intellectual class. The goal was to ensure the survivors would be too poor, illiterate, and fragmented to ever form a unified political bloc again. It was the same logic the British used after the 1857 revolt: crush the "natives" so thoroughly that the thought of self-governance becomes an impossibility.
Zia-ul-Haq: The Master of Psychological Occupation
Where Ayub Khan used administrative control, General Zia-ul-Haq mastered psychological occupation. Zia understood that to maintain absolute control after removing a democratically elected leader, he needed a different kind of legitimacy. He weaponized Islam to delegitimize his opponents, labeling labor unions, leftists, and political rivals as "unislamic."
Zia transformed the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) into a "state within a state." While Arab "mukhabarat" forces typically exist outside military command to prevent coups, the ISI was integrated into the army, creating a pervasive internal police force that monitored the psyche of the nation. As the source notes:
"He manipulated millions in the nation into supporting him merely because he invoked Islam... Zia understood the nation he was working with lacked critical thinking when it came to people who invoked Islam."
This "Zia Script"—of stroking egos and playing double games—remains the army’s primary tool for foreign and domestic policy. Today, we see General Asim Munir utilizing the same playbook, manipulating foreign leaders like Trump with the same "loyalist" veneer Zia once used on Reagan.
The Modern Extraction Machine
Today, the colonial legacy has matured into a sophisticated extraction machine. The military is no longer just a political actor; it is an economic titan, controlling entire sectors of the economy from sugar to fertilizers. It functions as the "face" of a broader elite capture, upholding the interests of feudal lords and business magnates who are more than happy to "invite the military in" to preserve the status quo.
In most sovereign nations, the army is a tool used by the people for their protection. In Pakistan, the people are a tool used by the army for its preservation. The military continues to orchestrate political shifts and ensure that no civilian Prime Minister ever finishes a term, following a 200-year-old script originally written for an occupying force.
Conclusion: The Persistence of the Script
The tragedy of Pakistan is that it never truly healed from colonization; it merely shifted from foreign occupiers to indigenous ones who inherited the same "control the colonized" mentality. The military is the vanguard of a system that keeps the population fragmented and illiterate to prevent the rise of a unified democratic voice.
We are left with a chilling sociological reality: the "well-oiled machine" of the army exists only because the rest of the nation is intentionally kept in a state of friction. Can a nation truly find its soul when the very institution meant to protect it is still reading from a colonial script of occupation?
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I hear that Terroristan is blocking food supplies to POJK; today is the tenth day.