Military Acquisitions, Partnerships & Developments

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 01 Jul 2008 18:14

SaiK wrote:Like dhruv, we should find a partner like israel to export arjun-mk2s. Brazilians sounds like a good idea. south america is a start up market for us.

AFAIk, HAL is now doing the marketing on it's own. The marketing pact with IAI no longer stands.

Why will Israel market Ajrun instead of their own Tank?

ranganathan · Post by **ranganathan** » 01 Jul 2008 21:16

Israel does not sell Merkavas to anyone. Arjun first has to be accepted by IA.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 01 Jul 2008 21:54

Might not happen.

Op-Ed in Pioneer 1 July 2008

Russia, India plan new fighter jet

Ilya Kramnik on plans to go beyond the production of BrahMos missiles

Despite occasional tensions over individual contracts, Russia and India remain the closest of partners in military technical cooperation. The recent visit to Russia by the Chief of the Indian Army, Gen Deepak Kapur, confirmed the two nations' friendly relations.

The most reported topic of discussion was the possible cooperation in designing a new-generation tank. If the project is actually implemented, India and Russia will have joint projects in making combat hardware for all the fighting services, including a fifth-generation fighter jet project for the Air Force, a frigate for the Navy, a tank for ground troops, and cruise missiles for all three services.

Russian-Indian cooperation in weapons development could lend impetus to the world's second-largest international military cooperation centre after NATO. One of the great benefits of cooperation in military R&D is the emergence of greater partnerships. In this respect, joint research and design is dramatically different from direct weapon acquisitions.

If we look at the joint military research and development projects being implemented in the world today, it would give us a fair indication of future military and political alliances. These alliances will not necessarily be documented by military agreements; the parties can simply have shared positions on major international issues and take coordinated action without sealing their decisions with a kind of Warsaw-- or Washington -- Pact.

It follows from this that India and Russia view their current partnership as a long-term strategic project, likely to endure for the next several decades, with the option of further expansion of cooperation in many important spheres including, but not limited to, military R&D. Joint development of modern weapons will help the partners not only to re-equip their own armies with advanced weaponry, but also to secure strong positions on the international arms market, where joint projects are playing an increasingly important role.

Deliveries of the new weapons to the two countries' armies and the world market will probably begin in mid-2010s, along with the planned mass production of the fifth-generation fighters. Right now, the BrahMos cruise missile systems are completing their first tests.

Interesting. So the next T-?? will have Indian inputs.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 02 Jul 2008 09:15

Indian inputs = Indian money?

khukri · Post by **khukri** » 04 Jul 2008 02:13

From Defence-Aerospace:
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/cgi-bi ... ele=jdc_34

khukri · Post by **khukri** » 04 Jul 2008 02:17

from defense News:
Indian Firms Begin Akash Production
By vivek raghuvanshi
Published: 2 Jul 14:49 EDT (18:49 GMT) Print | Email

NEW DELHI - India's homegrown surface-to-air missile, the Akash, has entered the production stage with participation from several state-owned and private-sector defense companies.

The $500 million production project will be shared among state-owned Bharat Electronics and Bharat Dynamics and three private entities, including Larsen and Toubro (L&T), Tata Power and Walchandnagar Industries.

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BDL will be the lead production agency, with BEL making the radars. L&T, Tata Power and Walchandnagar will build systems such as mobile launchers, engines and software control systems, a senior Defence Ministyr official said.

It is estimated that more than 100 other small and medium enterprises will be involved through outsourced production of auxiliary and spare parts.

Last year, the Indian Air Force cleared the induction of the Akash, under development since the 1980s and behind schedule by more than 15 years. Two units of the Akash missile system are expected to be inducted into Air Force service by 2009.

Designed and developed by the state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), the Akash was slated to be part of the Air Force's and Army's air defense systems as early as the 1990s. The medium-range theater surface-to-air missile, which operates with an Indian radar, is to replace the country's aging Russian air defense systems.

The 5.6-meter-long missile has a launch weight of 700 kilograms and can carry 60 kilograms of warhead. Its radar is capable of autonomously tracking 64 targets and guiding up to 12 missiles simultaneously.

d_berwal · Post by **d_berwal** » 04 Jul 2008 13:01

krishnan wrote:Indian inputs = Indian money?

not exactly.. if you look at even T-90 has lots of Indian Inputs which have been adopted by Russians also..

-- Chaterine TI Sight
-- and FCS upgrades which were done specifically for India (in regards to Missile)

where Indian can actually contribute is:
-- Adoption and integration of best of the TI available in market instead of russian ones
-- Share info and experience in containerized Ammo storage
-- Hydropneumatic Suspension
-- FCS
-- An all-electric type weapon control system with independent stabilisation (all-electric drive (AED))
-- And an BMS

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 09 Jul 2008 21:27

Here is how the domestic products are protected in the US military acquisitions:

Gates may reopen $35B military contract

Perhaps not stated openly, but the whole thrust of discussions in this case has been that even though it is a US company (Northrop Grumman) that won the contract, it was somehow against US interests because NG planned to use Airbus airframes, as opposed to the losing bidder Boeing that would use red, white, and blue airframes.

The members of Congress are quite proactive in fighting for defense dollars to bring and keep jobs in their constituencies. By spending the defense acquisition dollars at home, they have built a strong military-industrial complex.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 10 Jul 2008 01:13

Defence purchase policy revised

Defence purchase policy revised

Sandeep Dikshit

To govern purchases worth billions over the next decade

No delays: The new defence procurement policy will govern purchases of military aircraft like this C-130 Hercules seen here at Delhi’s Palam Air Force Station. India is purchasing six such aircraft from the U.S. for about Rs.3,900 crore.

NEW DELHI: The Centre on Wednesday revised the defence procurement policy to ensure speedier purchases and make the Indian industry a beneficiary as India shops worldwide to strengthen its defence preparedness.

The new policy will govern purchases worth nearly $100 billion over the next decade.

The Defence Acquisition Council headed by Defence Minister A.K. Antony cleared the new policy which includes provisions for increasing transparency. But the biggest change is inclusion of the new concept of banking in the offset clause which makes it mandatory for foreign companies selling equipment over Rs.300 crore to source part of their requirement from the country.

“The [policy] will be operative from August 1 and incorporates the cumulative experience of the services and the Ministry of Defence over the last two years,” said government sources. In 2006, the government unveiled a new defence purchase policy to reduce delays and eliminate corruption in vendor selection. It had also promised to revisit the policy after two years.

As Mr. Antony had promised, the government has ensured that an altered purchase policy would be in place by August.

“The policy has been suitably changed to pave the way for speedy procurement of weapons systems and platforms in a transparent manner,” added the sources.

The new policy marks a significant departure from the existing process by including the concept of banking of offsets — a company executing an order will be able to transfer the value of the work done in India to fulfil the offset requirements of another order. All foreign companies had made this demand though the validity of the banking period sought by them was different.

The government has now fixed it at two years. If a company has sourced some value of one project from India, it can indicate this amount as offsets in another request for proposals (RFP) if it comes within two years of the earlier work.

Simultaneously, the government is also planning to beef up the Directorate of Offsets with representations from the Services, Defence Finance wing and technical organisations. India has already inked a few defence contracts which include offsets. But a bigger department is required to cope with mega contracts in the pipeline. For instance, the Rs.42,000-crore tender for fighter aircraft has a 50 per cent requirement. Thus to ensure that Rs.21,000 crore of the requirement originates from India would require greater vigilance to check if the winning company is cutting corners.

The purchase policy also promises a greater push to indigenisation. This would be done by promoting wider representation on panels doing technical evaluation of indigenously designed military platforms.

The Defence Ministry has noted the predilection of some Services for off-the-shelf imported military systems rather than indigenously designed ones. The presence of defence researchers and others on the evaluating panel will ensure that conclusions of trials and evaluations are not made in a narrow single-service environment.

The new policy also seeks to involve Indian companies in designing and producing hard-to-obtain equipment, allow closure of dead-end projects and ensure that the cascading effect of local taxes does not make the companies’ products costlier than foreign equipment. The revised policy has provisions that incorporate suggestions by the Central Vigilance Commission which had scrutinised some defence deals in the past.

pushkar.bhat · Post by **pushkar.bhat** » 11 Jul 2008 16:17

Here is a post on possible reasons why Russia seems to be disputing or breaking its old agreements. Comments are welcome on the same.

sanjaychoudhry · Post by **sanjaychoudhry** » 14 Jul 2008 02:17

Reliance looks to NAL to make carbon fibre
Local production of carbon composites would reduce dependence on imports over the next few years

Reliance Industries Ltd plans to source locally developed technology from state-owned National Aerospace Laboratories, or NAL, to make carbon fibre, a scarce, steel-like material used in building light aircraft.
India’s largest private sector company by sales would make the carbon fibre at a 4,000-tonne plant in Vadodara, Gujarat, using technology developed at NAL, an arm of India’s biggest public research agency, the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research, people familiar with the development said.

http://www.livemint.com/2008/07/1323581 ... -make.html

vishwakarmaa · Post by **vishwakarmaa** » 14 Jul 2008 12:39

http://www.livemint.com/2008/07/1323581 ... -make.html

In April 2007, Japan’s Toray Industries Inc., the world’s largest producer of carbon fibre, stopped supply of the material after India tested its nuclear-capable ballistic missile, Agni 3, with the capability to strike China.

Nice. So, even Japan is scared of India's Agni-3 now!!

ranganathan · Post by **ranganathan** » 14 Jul 2008 12:47

http://www.indo.com/cgi-bin/dist/place2 ... e1=@173776

They have a very good reason to be afraid...

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 14 Jul 2008 13:00

with RILs help, we will produce enough carbon fibre to make 100,000 Agni3 missiles.

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 14 Jul 2008 16:13

NAL is is process of setting up largest autoclave in the Indian aerospace sector for processing advanced composite airframes.

Kakarat · Post by **Kakarat** » 14 Jul 2008 16:19

Stuck! The wait for India's new defence procurement policy - Ajai Shukla

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 14 Jul 2008 21:21

A Sharma wrote:NAL is is process of setting up largest autoclave in the Indian aerospace sector for processing advanced composite airframes.

Any links for this info? I know that they designed an autoclave for HAL for LCA, which was built by BHEL. Do they have plans to build bigger autoclaves too?

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 14 Jul 2008 21:40

RaviBg
The Torrid Journey of a Giant Autoclave Shell

sanjaychoudhry · Post by **sanjaychoudhry** » 16 Jul 2008 14:26

Tata to invest $2 bn in Andhra aerospace SEZ

Giving a major thrust to its aerospace and defence businesses, the Tata group has proposed to establish aerospace and defence products manufacturing facility in Hyderabad.

http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Ta ... EZ/336235/

Nmistry · Post by **Nmistry** » 17 Jul 2008 11:50

http://frontierindia.net/raytheon-leads ... stem-gagan

Raytheon Leads Team Bidding on Indian Satellite-Based Navigation System GAGAN
Written on July 16, 2008

Raytheon Company is leading a team to deliver a comprehensive solution for the Indian Space Research Organization and Airports Authority of India global navigation satellite systems. This will complete the final phase of the Global Positioning Satellite-Aided Geosynchronous Augmented Navigation System, or GAGAN.

GAGAN will provide satellite-based navigation for civil aviation across South and East Asia, which will provide India with the most accurate, flexible and efficient air navigation system deployed.

The Raytheon team will leverage the experience it gained during the past several years in deploying the technology demonstration system phase of GAGAN.

The GAGAN design is based on the experience gained delivering the only certified space-based augmentation systems. For instance, the Wide Area Augmentation System was certified by the Federal Aviation Administration in July 2003, and the MTSAT Satellite Augmentation System was certified by the Japanese Civil Aviation Bureau in September 2007.

Team members are Accord Software and Systems, Pvt. Ltd. of Bangalore, India, for GPS-based user receiver prototype development optimized for the equatorial region; Elcome Technologies, Pvt. Ltd. of Gurgaon, India, for logistical and on-site support; and Naverus, Inc., of Kent, Washington, for performance-based navigation route design, procedure flight validation and other related services.

Nmistry · Post by **Nmistry** » 17 Jul 2008 12:25

Boeing keen to develop India's aerospace industry.
Wed Jul 16, 2008
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Leading U.S. aircraft manufacturer, Boeing Co (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) is looking to bid for defence projects worth up to $20 billion over the next 10 years in India, a top official said.
The company is also submitting a detailed proposal to the Indian government on August 4 to help build the country's aerospace industry and transfer defence technology to meet government conditions for defence contracts.
"The opportunity the way we look at is tremendous in India in the next few years, in terms of growing industry and partnership," Vivek Lall, India country head of Boeing's Integrated Defense Systems (IDS) said on Wednesday.
"I think it is a win-win and I think we can bring the best of Boeing in India and best of India to Boeing," Lall told Reuters.
India is fast becoming one of the world's biggest arms importers. The country is looking to spend $50 billion on imports over the next five years to modernize its largely Soviet-era arms.
India is also keen to strengthen its own aerospace industry and has asked major weapon exporting countries to transfer defence technology to India.
As a condition of granting defence contracts, India has said 30 percent of all defence deals valued at over $3 billion have to be reinvested in the country -- either through purchase of components from Indian companies or establishing joint ventures to make parts in India.
Boeing has already submitted a bid for a 126 multi-role fighter jet contract, potentially worth more than $10 billion.
The company says it is willing to meet India's conditions, such as setting up manufacturing and research programs.
"They want a technological base here that will lead to indigenous platform for the future and also bring up the manufacturing facilities here...the kind of offset proposals we are looking to provide will address those issues."
Boeing has submitted a proposal to sell P-81 anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare planes, and will decide soon whether to offer its AH-64D Apache aircraft to New Delhi, Lall said.
The U.S.-based company also has plans to sell its CH-47 Chinook helicopter for the Indian army and C-17 Globemaster III, its newest cargo aircraft.
In the past three years, Boeing has sold civilian aircraft worth $25 billion to India.
(Editing by Alistair Scrutton and Lincoln Feast)
http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersE ... 4320080716

ranganathan · Post by **ranganathan** » 17 Jul 2008 12:35

Some major psy-ops going on. Who said IAF was ever interested in C-17? Il-76 MF is the way to go. CH-47? May be a hand full but most likely HAL's 15 tonne chopper.Ah-64D..nice try onlee. Why is raytheon involved in GAGAN? I was under the impression it would be based on ISRO's satellites.

vishwakarmaa · Post by **vishwakarmaa** » 18 Jul 2008 06:19

That came from Gutter(Reuter's Delhi Psy-Op Office).

khukri · Post by **khukri** » 18 Jul 2008 14:08

From Defense News:
Aircraft Engine Technology to Power Indian Ships
By vivek raghuvanshi
Published: 17 Jul 12:43 EDT (16:43 GMT) Print | Email

NEW DELHI - Even as India's homemade Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) awaits the indigenous Kaveri engine, which has been under development for more than 15 years, a Kaveri variant has been developed to power Indian warships.

The Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), Bangalore, a laboratory under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), which is developing the Kaveri engine for the LCA, has developed a turbine for warships by spinning off Kaveri technology.

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"Using the core of the Kaveri engine, the scientists of GTRE have added a low-pressure compressor and turbine as a gas generator and designed a free power turbine to generate shaft power for the maritime application," an Indian Defence Ministry release said.

The 12 MW marine gas turbine engine will propel the Rajput class of warships, a Navy official said.

"The engine will make India self-reliant in this critical technology of gas turbines for ship propulsion because all the naval ships run on this technology," the release says.

India joins an elite club of marine gas turbine designers, which includes Russia, the Ukraine and the U.S., the Navy official said.

However, the fate of the Kaveri engine for the LCA is still not known. The GTRE is on a global hunt for partners to help it complete the project.

A limited tender was issued by GTRE last year to Safran of France and NPO Saturn of Russia. However, no partner has yet been selected.

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 22 Jul 2008 16:27

India to be Italian defence major focus in 2009

Eyeing India whose annual defence spending is expected to touch a whopping USD 10 billion in the next five years, an Italian defence major has announced plans to focus on the subcontinent from next year by forging tie ups with local companies.

"We are extending our presence both commercially and in terms of production to high potential markets and India will be our focus area in the coming years beginning 2009," Finmeccanica's chairman and chief executive officer Pier Francesco Guarguaglini told PTI here.

"Where possible and necessary, we plan to do this largely through local and international partnerships," Guarguaglini said, when asked about the likely 50 per cent offsets clause in India's to-be-announced Defence Procurement Plan-2008.

"By integrating our technological and product excellence with that of other companies, we will be able to increase our commercial opportunities, reduce risks and investments, and speed up time to market our products," he emphasised.

In fact, Finmeccanica has a large presence in India, with nine of the 15 offices and production facilities in Asia alone based in the sub-continent. Whereas, neighbouring China had just three offices and facilities.

"India is certainly a major market for Finmeccanica in the defence and aerospace field, which are our company's two pillars. The third pillar, of course, is defence electronics," Finmeccanica's chief operating officer Giorgio Zappa said.

"We are not in India for any short-term relationships. We are looking at long-term benefits," Zappa added.

Already, Finmeccanica has a major role in the defence and aerospace sector in India in the form of tie-ups with Defence Public Sector Undertakings.

Finmeccanica was working with the Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited (BHEL) in the production of the 76mm guns under licence for some radar parts and in transportation market.

It was also collaborating with Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) on building of radars for the Air Traffic Control of airports and Defence airbases. Work was also on jointly with bluechip Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) in the aerospace sector, as also with the Bharat Dynamics Limited (BDL) in the field of torpedoes and laser missiles.

In the private sector, Finmeccanica had signed a memorandum of understanding with Mahindras and discussion for a similar tie-up with Tatas was in progress.

The Italian major was also working on joint ventures to buy out certain companies, all within the limitations and restrictions imposed by the Indian government, according to Finmeccanica's India country head Paola Girasole.

"We are awaiting some relaxation in the foreign direct investment limits of 26 per cent from the Indian government. We are not here only to sell, but also to buy," Girasole said. India is already considering a proposal to increase the FDI limits in the Defence sector to 49 per cent.

Finmeccanica was extending support to the Seaking helicopters and was building Joint Cargo Aircraft (JCA) C27J for the Border Security Force. Incidentally, C27J was also sold to the US last year.

In the future, Finmeccanica was looking at opportunities in India in the form of the maritime patrol aircraft for which it would place its aircraft that were in use with the Italian coast guard at present.

Vipul · Post by **Vipul** » 24 Jul 2008 23:38

Indian Navy to buy 37 anti-sub choppers.

The Indian Navy is all set to strengthen its air fleet by acquiring 26 Sea King anti-submarine and troop carrying helicopters and 11 Kamov-28 choppers.

The Defence Ministry will soon issue the request for proposal (RFP) to procure these 37 anti-submarine helicopters. The contract for choppers is worth Rs.14, 500 million.The ministry has finalised global tenders to acquire troop carrying and anti-submarine helicopters as well as to upgrade its fleet of Sea King and Kamov-28 helicopters, a senior naval officer said.

He also said that the delivery of 12 single-seat MiG-29K and 4 two-seat MiG-29KUB would start by the year-end. They will be later deployed on the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier being refitted in Russia.

The first batch of four aircraft for the Navy is likely to fly into the naval air station at Goa.The officer also said that the Navy is also looking for its own Airborne Early Warning Aircraft.

The navy operates 14 Sea King and 12 Kamov anti-submarine helicopters. In addition, the Sea Kings are also used for reconnaissance, search and rescue operations, and for ferrying personnel and supplies.

Meanwhile, in a major drive to modernise the armed forces and expand aviation wings of the Services, the Defence Ministry today issued a RFP to procure 197 helicopters. The proposed procurement is worth Rs.30, 000 million.

The armed forces will modernise their helicopter fleet by 2010 by replacing the age-old Cheetah and Chetak, which have been in service for last 40 years.

Kakkaji · Post by **Kakkaji** » 24 Jul 2008 23:49

Vipul wrote:Indian Navy to buy 37 anti-sub choppers.

The Indian Navy is all set to strengthen its air fleet by acquiring 26 Sea King anti-submarine and troop carrying helicopters and 11 Kamov-28 choppers.

The Defence Ministry will soon issue the request for proposal (RFP) to procure these 37 anti-submarine helicopters.

Are the Sea Kings still being built?

PaulJI · Post by **PaulJI** » 25 Jul 2008 01:54

Kakkaji wrote:Are the Sea Kings still being built?

Not for many years. The Sikorsky webpage says "Nearly 1,500 aircraft were produced by Sikorsky and its licensees, many of them still in operation today."

Westland stopped building them in 1990. I don't think anyone else built them much after that.

sum · Post by **sum** » 25 Jul 2008 08:42

The Indian Navy is all set to strengthen its air fleet by acquiring 26 Sea King anti-submarine and troop carrying helicopters and 11 Kamov-28 choppers.

The Defence Ministry will soon issue the request for proposal (RFP) to procure these 37 anti-submarine helicopters. The contract for choppers is worth Rs.14, 500 million.The ministry has finalised global tenders to acquire troop carrying and anti-submarine helicopters as well as to upgrade its fleet of Sea King and Kamov-28 helicopters, a senior naval officer said.

If it has been decided to acquire 26 sea-kings and 11 Kamovs, why is there a RFP again(when there is no competition)?

uddu · Post by **uddu** » 25 Jul 2008 10:39

sum wrote:If it has been decided to acquire 26 sea-kings and 11 Kamovs, why is there a RFP again(when there is no competition)?

It's DDM again. Seems upgradation of Sea Kings and Kamov.

narayana · Post by **narayana** » 25 Jul 2008 10:44

sum wrote:
The Indian Navy is all set to strengthen its air fleet by acquiring 26 Sea King anti-submarine and troop carrying helicopters and 11 Kamov-28 choppers.

The Defence Ministry will soon issue the request for proposal (RFP) to procure these 37 anti-submarine helicopters. The contract for choppers is worth Rs.14, 500 million.The ministry has finalised global tenders to acquire troop carrying and anti-submarine helicopters as well as to upgrade its fleet of Sea King and Kamov-28 helicopters, a senior naval officer said.
If it has been decided to acquire 26 sea-kings and 11 Kamovs, why is there a RFP again(when there is no competition)?

No No Seakings again,the fiasco after Pokhran II still haunts me,arent they at the end of their service life along with sea harriers?.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 25 Jul 2008 10:46

I suspect the idea is new type of chopper to replace 26 SK and 11 Ka28 but got misreported.
this tender has been expected for a couple yrs now.

k prasad · Post by **k prasad** » 25 Jul 2008 12:19

Found a hilarious example of how long winded the defence investigations can get... looks like no one wants their hands in one of these:

http://pib.nic.in/archieve/lreleng/lyr2 ... 00130.html

IRREGULARITIES IN PROCUREMENT OF RADAR

A complaint was received alleging certain irregularities in the course of procurement of Weapon Locating Radar (WLR).

Since the issues raised were of sensitive nature, the Government decided to refer the matter to the Central Vigilance Commission (CVC), to get the complaint investigated. The CVC, in turn, referred the matter to the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), which rendered its Report in the matter to the CVC, whereupon, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) was asked to take further action, as directed. After due deliberation in the Ministry, the matter was re-referred to the CVC, which in turn, forwarded it to the CBI for further action.

sum · Post by **sum** » 25 Jul 2008 12:51

Government decided to refer the matter to the Central Vigilance Commission (CVC), to get the complaint investigated. The CVC, in turn, referred the matter to the Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI), which rendered its Report in the matter to the CVC, whereupon, the Ministry of Defence (MOD) was asked to take further action, as directed. After due deliberation in the Ministry, the matter was re-referred to the CVC, which in turn, forwarded it to the CBI for further action.

Seems more cmplex than Wind Tunnel simulations!!!!

Should go into the CAT question papers for Aptitude tests....Trace the flow of events!!!!

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Jul 2008 22:23

narayana wrote:
sum wrote: If it has been decided to acquire 26 sea-kings and 11 Kamovs, why is there a RFP again(when there is no competition)?

No No Seakings again,the fiasco after Pokhran II still haunts me,arent they at the end of their service life along with sea harriers?.

Sadly, in the staff requirements for the Seaking, someone forgot to mention the requirement for flight.
This prima donna has sat on the ground for the longest time, much to the frustration of Navies the world over.
No one would miss this machine.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 25 Jul 2008 22:50

khukri wrote:From Defense News:
Aircraft Engine Technology to Power Indian Ships
By vivek raghuvanshi
Published: 17 Jul 12:43 EDT (16:43 GMT) Print | Email

NEW DELHI - Even as India's homemade Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) awaits the indigenous Kaveri engine, which has been under development for more than 15 years, a Kaveri variant has been developed to power Indian warships.

The Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE), Bangalore, a laboratory under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), which is developing the Kaveri engine for the LCA, has developed a turbine for warships by spinning off Kaveri technology.

Related TopicsAsia & Pacific Rim
Air Warfare
Naval Warfare
"Using the core of the Kaveri engine, the scientists of GTRE have added a low-pressure compressor and turbine as a gas generator and designed a free power turbine to generate shaft power for the maritime application," an Indian Defence Ministry release said.

The 12 MW marine gas turbine engine will propel the Rajput class of warships, a Navy official said.

"The engine will make India self-reliant in this critical technology of gas turbines for ship propulsion because all the naval ships run on this technology," the release says.

India joins an elite club of marine gas turbine designers, which includes Russia, the Ukraine and the U.S., the Navy official said.

However, the fate of the Kaveri engine for the LCA is still not known. The GTRE is on a global hunt for partners to help it complete the project.

A limited tender was issued by GTRE last year to Safran of France and NPO Saturn of Russia. However, no partner has yet been selected.

Baby steps. Baby steps!
This guy (Indian Defence Ministry release) went from failed aircraft engine to Marine GT on full after burner.
Us Indians have this sunny disposition, no matter how many times the DRDO has failed to deliver on their many promises, we keep leading with the chin.
Here's hoping that they make it this time.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 26 Jul 2008 05:46

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/news ... wsid=10185 “[The] restrictive clauses raise doubts about the real advantages from this deal. For example, there are restrictions on the offensive deployment of the ship and permission would be given to a foreign government to conduct an inspection and inventory of all articles transferred under the end-use monitoring clause of the Letter of Agreement,”

I am not sure, by putting the contentious issues on the back burner, would not make it be the front burner in the future. How long does it take for P8i go Kaput! on the electronics and radars controls and processors that can be highly integrated with state department buttons.?

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 26 Jul 2008 21:38

Govt for greater public-private partnership in defense sector

maz · Post by **maz** » 27 Jul 2008 00:24

Indian Navy to buy 37 anti-sub choppers.

>>The Indian Navy is all set to strengthen its air fleet by acquiring 26 Sea King anti-submarine and troop carrying helicopters and 11 Kamov-28 choppers...

The ministry has finalised global tenders to acquire troop carrying and anti-submarine helicopters as well as to upgrade its fleet of Sea King and Kamov-28 helicopters, a senior naval officer said...

The navy operates 14 Sea King and 12 Kamov anti-submarine helicopters..<<

This is incorrect reporting and the writer may be confusing orders fornew helos with those for upgrades.

Several of the SKG are undergoing upgrades at HAL while tenders for upgrades to SKG and KV 28 have are pending , so the above report is quite confusing.

Chetak, your comments regarding SKG a/c are misleading and erroneous. Tell me something: have you flown / operated the SKG? If you have, then you will know that several SKG are operational. The IN has at least two Mk 42C operational along with 10-12 Mk 42A/B plus six UH-3H as part of the Trenton transfer.

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 27 Jul 2008 02:40

Mahindra Newsletter

The Malaysian Army will be evaluating the Axe for their requirements for High Mobility Reconnaissance Vehicles. The Axe’s induction in Malaysian Army will be a significant achievement for AS and will open the markets in the nearby countries.