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narayanan wrote:How's this?

1. The officer's official credentials may have been used on orders to get the RDX from the factory ("for National Security Purposes, Don't Ask Questions!"). Not hard to do, hey, for others inside Army Intel? Signature-faking etc. should come very easily....

2. Someone may have faked the Saadhvi's appearance (not hard to do, probably head covered, face with lots of turmeric, sandalwood paste, vibhooti, kumkum etc) and her ID, to buy the SIM card.

3. Someone may actually have called the nutcase who was ordered to take the Saadhvi's moped (did she really ride a motorbike?) and the RDX and place it outside the mosque.

4. Some may have called the guy, FROM a cellphone with the Saadhvi's SIM, and chewed him out for failing to kill more ppl.

5. So from the bomb-placer's pov, he got a call as he was told to expect to get, from the Saaadhvi. He did his assignment, and then he got called by the same voice and same number, and chewed out.

6. The SIM-seller is sure that he sold it to someone who looked very much like the Saadhvi, and he sure ain't retracting that, because if the Saadhvi goes free, then he is still on the hook for selling the SIM to terrorists.

7. The Lt Col has to admit that the signature LOOKS like his, the stationery is from his office, the office stamp is his. But he says "I had NOTHING to do with this!"

8. The ATS says: "Aha! Likely story! Army intelligence just hands out their seals to anyone? WHO can sneak inside a LT. COL's office and steal this? Will an Army facility just hand over a packet of RDX without VERIFYING the orders?"

9. Everyone wants to CYA by saying: "IMPOSSIBLE! DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE ARMY INTELLIGENCE!"
(no offence, I am showing how it all fits)

10. So now the ATS babus claim they have cracked the case. Smart ATS officers have grave doubts.

Fits all the facts reported so far.

So WHY frameup? That's easy. There I agree with what all the Holies say, except that there a hajaar reasons. This is why you should check back several months, as to WHEN the first hints came out that such a "revelation" would be the way to go. IIRC, several blasts ago, the IMC, AIM, and their India-based chamchas declared that "Police must investigate the blasts conducted by Hindu Terrorists as Well!" and mentioned two cases. One was the Darwin Award Winner in UP who managed to inflate himself. I wondered which one the other was - now I see it.

Also look at the extreme coverage of this investigation in YAWN etc.

The Malegaon blast was, IMO, set off precisely to target Hindus, and the Indian Army, and it was probably done by the same crowd that did the other blasts. Except these were a bit more sophisticated in the frameup.

My opinion is that if the Army officer was really involved, and some gang really wanted "revenge", and he went to all the trouble of getting RDX etc., knowing that these would eventually be traced to him, he would have gone for a truckload, and turned the mosque into a parking lot with all inside.

No sense in doing fedayeen, just to do a blast where the obvious intent was to minimize the number of casualties.

BUT.. I have no evidence, so I cannot argue this. I do think the above fits all the reported facts to-date.

Sorry for the late reaction.
All the RDX used in an explosion is never fully consumed in the explosion. Minute quantities of unexploded residue can almost always be picked up and analyzed.

RDX can be positively identified right down to the specific production batch from where a particular sample has originated. This is because of a characteristic chemical finger print that is left behind in the unexploded residue and can be picked up even in trace quantities from the site after an explosion and analyzed to yield reliable information. When the next batch is made, due to minute variations in the mix a new finger print emerges.

This is the reason why you see serious looking gentlemen swabbing away at the explosion site with cotton buds / swabs and carefully putting away the samples in ziplock bags and incidentally also the very same reason that the Daughter of the East's assassination site was so quickly hosed down by interested parties in Pakistan.

It can very well and easily be proved whether the RDX in question was of Indian origin or not. The source or at least the production facility and batch number can be pinpointed. Law enforcement agencies have large data bases of such fingerprints that are often provided by the production facilities themselves and can be easily accessed by the authorities. International cooperation for such identification is the accepted norm.

Be that as it may, Col Purohit just would not have been so stupid as portrayed in the media. Sending SMSs from his mobile and in such wonderfully explicit language. Sounds more like a pot boiler.
RDX, Havala transactions and training camps!!! Sound familiar???
Are we to believe that the ATS arrested him minus his laptop and foolishly went back later to look for it?
A photograph of the Col in uniform with a red tikka on his forehead was prominently published on many front pages. You just cannot walk around in the Indian Armed forces, in uniform and parading a tikka on your forehead.
Pity that they could not show a burkha clad female piteously vouching for his innocence. Hence the Saadhvi, just to complete the picture.

You are right about a conspiracy. This one is going to blow up in the faces of the congress and all its fake secular supporters.
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Raju wrote:
Why is this desire to be inclusive in the Hindu being seen as a weakness or dhimmitude or as behaviour of doves who bow down to a superior fighting force.
"Weakness" is your interpretation

"Dhimmitude" might have been normal Hindu inclusive behavior - but it certainly explains both Hindu survival and Ayub Khan's opinion of Hindus.

But none of this explains denial of history. The important fact in my view is the excuses that are being put forward to explain away that denial. However the acknowledgment that history has been fudged is welcome.

Why is it necessary to deny history. Is it a hallmark of secularism to deny history? Why is history not denied in totality, but only partially? What are some things good to talk about, but other things are explained away by ploys made to sound like Holy Hindu mumbo jumbo? Does secularism need to use Hindu sounding excuses to demy Hindu history?
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shiv wrote: "Weakness" is your interpretation

"Dhimmitude" might have been normal Hindu inclusive behavior - but it certainly explains both Hindu survival and Ayub Khan's opinion of Hindus.

But none of this explains denial of history. The important fact in my view is the excuses that are being put forward to explain away that denial. However the acknowledgment that history has been fudged is welcome.

Why is it necessary to deny history. Is it a hallmark of secularism to deny history? Why is history not denied in totality, but only partially? What are some things good to talk about, but other things are explained away by ploys made to sound like Holy Hindu mumbo jumbo? Does secularism need to use Hindu sounding excuses to demy Hindu history?
ideas are not properly getting across here.

The game you call denial of history is as old as written history itself. This is not a new game. It has not been invented by fake-seculars though they may happen to carry it forward today. Deception is the tool with which the opposition makes their moves. What is shown by them may not be what is the truth. What is printed in a paper is not what has actually happened and so on ..

the whine therein of hindu history being twisted is immaterial .. everything is twisted.

And human beings cannot invent philosophies to win this game, it has to be fought in divine paradigm.
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Raju wrote: how will those that were created by this God fare, when they begin to mirror and aspire to emulate the behaviour of those who belong to the 'vengeful God' of the semites and those who belong to the desert ? Should they even try to copy this ?

Can a Hindu reverse from his basic code, and still succeed ?
This exactly is the backdrop for the “Bhagavatgeeta” at the end of Dwapara Yuga. A new direction was set for Hindus by sage Krishna to understand and prepare for the dilemmas posed by “Kaliyuga”.

Come to think of it, this is the exact discussion happened every time Dharma is challenged by Adharma. Every avatar of the “Hindu God” tried to answer this question by not only their teachings and but also their actions. Not a single avatar goes without crushing Adharma (I may say in a violent way) in order to set the world order on the right course.

If one wishes to understand Dharma to be being passive and “Karmic”, they need to wait till the next avatar appears on this earth. The good thing is (per Hinduism) they will keep returning to this world to learn that exact lesson.

JMT.
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The only thing I would add to Raju's post it that the idea of God and gods is different between the dharmic and adharmic forces. It is this which leads to this chaos.
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shiv wrote:
Raju wrote:
Why is this desire to be inclusive in the Hindu being seen as a weakness or dhimmitude or as behaviour of doves who bow down to a superior fighting force.
"Weakness" is your interpretation

"Dhimmitude" might have been normal Hindu inclusive behavior - but it certainly explains both Hindu survival and Ayub Khan's opinion of Hindus.
But none of this explains denial of history. The important fact in my view is the excuses that are being put forward to explain away that denial. However the acknowledgment that history has been fudged is welcome.



Why is it necessary to deny history. Is it a hallmark of secularism to deny history? Why is history not denied in totality, but only partially? What are some things good to talk about, but other things are explained away by ploys made to sound like Holy Hindu mumbo jumbo? Does secularism need to use Hindu sounding excuses to demy Hindu history?

The history of India, as taught in our schools and colleges is written either by the British or by the communists who were in bed with Nehru.
They probably did this because they didn't want the restive natives to find out the truth and then rise up as one and collectively butcher the blighters responsible for plundering, killing, inquesting (sorry!) and ravaging their ancestors in the centuries gone by. The minorities have a strongly vested interest in keeping this state of affairs going. That is why, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, they continue to deny that many mosques and churches were built on the foundations of destroyed temples. One is the ROP while the other is the ROL. Members of both ROP and ROL consider themselves superior to the natives.
The thick headed BJP wallas should go about correcting this denial of history in a more subtle fashion instead of unleashing the moronic Murli Manohar Joshi on the unsuspecting public. Talk about bulls and china shops.
Do exactly what Arjun Singh has done. If rape is committed in public, the victims may not be willing to call further attention to themselves. And a genteel public will politely avert their eyes. QED
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Here is something I learned yesterday.

It seems that one of the big reasons for the USCIRF ranting against Modi and demanding that he not be allowed in the US etc. is that the JEWISH (yes, u read that right) interests there are peeved that textbooks in Gujarat somehow glorify Hitler. Apparently the State has been so "404" that they didn't take out such blatant stuff, which was inserted there by the usual suspects, nothing to do with the Modi govt.

Another data point for my postulate on the other thread, but this is an example of the sheer sloth of the yindoo netas on the rare occasions when they DO get into power. While N. Modi has his hands full of other stuff, what is the excuse of the Gujarat education dept to let the textbooks continue to be those done by the commies-pakis?

So what I am saying is that ultimately, the reason why all that visa-denial tamasha actually happened, is a passage in the texts. When Jewish ppl occupy positions of power, they don't hesitate to use that power to further their own causes, however petty or insignificant they may seem to the rest of us. And they just spare no effort.
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Wow! And all along psecs were taking credit for their 'brutus fulmen' requests to USSD to deny visa. And Indian DDM was trumpeting these false victories.
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ramana wrote:Wow! And all along psecs were taking credit for their 'brutus fulmen' requests to USSD to deny visa. And Indian DDM was trumpeting these false victories.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I wonder if Mr. Modi even knows about it. I'm sure they would have given him 1 chance to correct the "error". Regardless of religion, people like Hitler cannot be glorified, period. Gotta give it to the Jewish community for keeping their eyes and ears open. I guess when survival is at stake, there is no room for dhimmitude. When there is no threat to a nation's survival, people doze off.
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Can someone familar with Gujarat education system verify this matter about 'glorification' of nazis in the textbooks and when did it begin?
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I could only predict Hyd, Ajmer. These guys are obviously smarter than me and they included Samjhauta blasts as well. Great show so far.

TOI - More BIG Hindu leaders involved in Nanded, Ajmer and Samjhauta Express blasts

Speaking to TOI, an IPS official said that the ATS was also probing if the accused in the Malegaon bomb blast case had any links with three other blasts, those at Nanded and Ajmer and the blast in the Samjhauta Express in January 2007.

‘‘In the course of investigations, certain information was received about the involvement of the Malegaon blast accused in the Nanded, Ajmer and Samjhauta Express blasts. We are trying to examine if these cases are linked to the Malegaon blast case,’’ the official said.
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Maybe they will connect them to 9/11 too while at it.

No name for the IPS chap?
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ramana wrote:Maybe they will connect them to 9/11 too while at it.
:lol: soon it will be the case... peace be upon you for this revelation...
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THis is becoming a witchhunt. Will need corrective action at later date.

ATS Plot runs aground
ATS ‘plot’ runs aground

Preetam Srivastava/ PNS | Lucknow/ New Delhi

No Gorakhpur leader involved, says UP Govt

The mystery over the alleged involvement of an important religious leader from Uttar Pradesh in the Malegaon blast deepened on Tuesday with State Government denying the involvement of any political leader or ‘VIP’ from Gorakhpur in the terror case.

The ATS move to interrogate the ‘VIP’ has created an upheaval in the political circles. The BJP leaders in Delhi said it confirmed their suspicion that ahead of the crucial Assembly polls, the UPA was all out to link majority community with terror design, while firebrand party MP from Gorakhpur Yogi Adityanath accused the Congress of hatching a conspiracy to defame Hindu organisations.

“The ATS is acting under the instructions of the Congress. There is a dangerous conspiracy going on where an attempt is being made to link RSS with terrorist organisations,” he alleged while charging that the ongoing probe in the Malegaon case is unfair.

The ATS probe in the Malegaon blast is a “pack of lies and utter rubbish”, he said.

Adityanath also dared Home Minister Shivraj Patil to take action against Sangh Parivar leaders from his Gorakhpur parliamentary constituency in the probe by the Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS). BJP president Rajnath Singh told The Pioneer he would like the ATS to come out with the name of the religious leader before going to the media.

The party leadership feels that the Congress was seeking to polarise voters on communal lines. The party is expected to react to the developments on Wednesday.

Meanwhile, UP ADG (law & order, crime) Brij Lal denied that Mumbai ATS had contacted them in connection with the “VIP” link, but sources in the UP Government indicated the leader under question could be a respected spiritual and religious figure from eastern UP who played a major role in Ram Temple movement.

There was speculation that the Mumbai ATS wanted to keep the operation a closely-guarded secret so that they could pick up that ‘VIP’ for interrogation without causing any law and order problems.

Sources also confirmed that the ‘VIP’ was neither Yogi Adityanath nor an MLA, as was being projected by some news channels.

The Mumbai ATS team is believed to have reached the temple town late on Tuesday night so as to coordinate the entire operation with their UP counterparts.
So whats going on?
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Assuming (I do not have any facts/logic to backup and hence the assumption) that GOI is doing a witch hunt, what is it gaining in this excercise? As far as I see there is only one of the two aspects to this witch hunt: (1) Upcoming elections (2) Being outright careless and trecherous.

If it is (1), are they trying to show to IM that they are the saviours of IM and try to wean them away from rest of minuscule parties of UPA. That way they can atleast consolidate a major chunk while taking the dhimmi Hindu vote for granted. I believe this will backfire as even the dhimmi Hindoos will join the "idiots" out there to defeat the gentlemen. This happened in 1977 and the lesson is that if the push too much the psyche works totally against them.

If it is (2) then there is a serious problem to India.
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archan wrote:
ramana wrote:Wow! And all along psecs were taking credit for their 'brutus fulmen' requests to USSD to deny visa. And Indian DDM was trumpeting these false victories.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I wonder if Mr. Modi even knows about it. I'm sure they would have given him 1 chance to correct the "error". Regardless of religion, people like Hitler cannot be glorified, period. Gotta give it to the Jewish community for keeping their eyes and ears open. I guess when survival is at stake, there is no room for dhimmitude. When there is no threat to a nation's survival, people doze off.
Hmmm - sudden bells ring in the mind.

Gujarat "glorifying" Hitler? I have seen the text somewhere.

I believe Hitler was described as a nationalist who worked for Germans and such stuff.

Just like Aurangzeb was a nationalist?
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shiv wrote:
archan wrote:[quote="

Just like Aurangzeb was a nationalist?
Aurnga was both Secular and nationalistic as per PS crowd.
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Well you missed the real piece on Auranjeb per the PS crowd, he built tempels and during his regime, there was no discrimination within Hindus!!
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And he demolished Kashi Viswanath to punish the "evil" Brahmins who were dacoits and raped Rajput princesses!
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fanne wrote:Well you missed the real piece on Auranjeb per the PS crowd, he built tempels and during his regime, there was no discrimination within Hindus!!
AOA!!!
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I knew he was peaceful pious man of ROP. :wink: His kind treatment to his own family is good proof of him being deserving Patron Saint of PS crowd. Its onlee Hindu Natioinalist extremists who try to malign his legacy. But lets dont look back but look forward so PS crowd dont have to wait long for the advent of another Secular rule like his.
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Prem wrote:
fanne wrote:Well you missed the real piece on Auranjeb per the PS crowd, he built tempels and during his regime, there was no discrimination within Hindus!!
AOA!!!
Satyamev Jayte
I knew he was peaceful pious man of ROP. :wink: His kind treatment to his own family is good proof of him being deserving Patron Saint of PS crowd. Its onlee Hindu Natioinalist extremists who try to malign his legacy. But lets dont look back but look forward so PS crowd dont have to wait long for the advent of another Secular rule like his.

But Hitler?

NO! He must not be mentioned in ANY favorable light. Right?
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Prem and all,

Aurangazeb was a complex person. Not being the first born or the favorite he was at a disadvantage in the Mughal princely order. And per the Turkish tradition he had to kill his rivals just as Shahjehan did(Read the books or watch the movie Noor Jehan). He did a lot of bad with some good. I suggest folks read Dr. Rekha Mishra's book on Aurangazeb. (Yes I do read the books I recommend!) He was last man standing for the hardliners in the Mughal Empire. If he wasn't by now Hindusthan would be fully Dar-ul-Islam. So he had his role in history and its time to move on. Aurangazeb is an icon of Hindusthan and is our guy. I don't want any puki sh*head to claim him. We need to take him back as our lost/wayward guy if we want to own our history.
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ramana wrote:Prem and all,

If he wasn't by now Hindusthan would be fully Dar-ul-Islam.
Ramana, could you please clarify this?
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And please do not use logic like, since he was so dogmatic, he unintentionally initiated a hINDU backlash that save the religion.
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Fanne,

I wouldn't be too surprised, after all we are like that only. we only react when pushed to the wall. Even today we are no better.
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Guys, we are totally going Out of Topic and converting malegaon blasts thread to islamism thread.
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Maybe someone can raise this point in the history thread? it sure would be good to learn.
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ramana wrote:Can someone familar with Gujarat education system verify this matter about 'glorification' of nazis in the textbooks and when did it begin?
http://arvindneela.blogspot.com/2007/02 ... st_16.html

Ramana garu,

Arvind exposes the canard. It is in Tamil but there are pageshots of the textbook in English.

The comments section has some info:
http://www.sandeepweb.com/2007/02/26/te ... d-article/
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Muppalla wrote:I could only predict Hyd, Ajmer. These guys are obviously smarter than me and they included Samjhauta blasts as well. Great show so far.

TOI - More BIG Hindu leaders involved in Nanded, Ajmer and Samjhauta Express blasts

Speaking to TOI, an IPS official said that the ATS was also probing if the accused in the Malegaon bomb blast case had any links with three other blasts, those at Nanded and Ajmer and the blast in the Samjhauta Express in January 2007.

‘‘In the course of investigations, certain information was received about the involvement of the Malegaon blast accused in the Nanded, Ajmer and Samjhauta Express blasts. We are trying to examine if these cases are linked to the Malegaon blast case,’’ the official said.

The Big Bang definitely had a Hindu connection!
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Muppalla wrote:If it is (1), are they trying to show to IM that they are the saviours of IM and try to wean them away from rest of minuscule parties of UPA. That way they can atleast consolidate a major chunk while taking the dhimmi Hindu vote for granted. I believe this will backfire as even the dhimmi Hindoos will join the "idiots" out there to defeat the gentlemen. This happened in 1977 and the lesson is that if the push too much the psyche works totally against them.
I read somewhere that calculation is that if CongI gets solid 15% minority votes, another 20% Hindu vote will fetch it 35+% votes. In a scattered electoral situation, it can win significant number of MPs.
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12th Nov 2008,
1.30 p.m I.S.T,
Channel: Ndtv 24X7.


Veerappa Moily cites reports, saying that RSS may have involvement in Guwahati Blasts.

Additionally, he states that the Malegaon blast accused may have links to J&K for supply of RDX.

Context: refutation and condemnation of BJP in supporting Malegaon accused. Immediate provocation being the Rajnath Singh Speech in Chhattisgarh accusing UPA of targeting Hindu’s


My response: No comments for now! Will respond with the Ballot.
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shyam wrote:
I read somewhere that calculation is that if CongI gets solid 15% minority votes, another 20% Hindu vote will fetch it 35+% votes. In a scattered electoral situation, it can win significant number of MPs.


Correction, Only 60-65% of total electorate vote. 33%(20% of total electorate) of votes cast is enough to sweep an election.

So if Muslims or say christians say 15%+3% in counstiuency vote because of a Fatwa or the church asking people to vote for so called secular parties, then you have 30% of the votes, you just need 2% of the Hindu electorate to win the elections.

Inder Sharma, did I hear you right Verappa Moily is on the side of ULFA's accusations
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Why cant RSS sue Congress and its leader for putting baseless accusations on it ?
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No Aditya, he did not say of RSS link-up with ULFA. he said that there are reports indicating RSS involvement in guwahati Blast. Make what you understand of it.
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Inder Sharma, You got my post completly wrong. I was not stating an RSS link up but the fact that ULFA yesterday claimed RSS was responsible for the Guwahati blasts. Today COngress is saying RSS is responsible for Guwahati blasts.

So what I was referring to was how disgustingly the Congress, Indian media is jumping to ULFA's aide and stating that what the ULFA says is the truth and nothing but the truth.
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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

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ATS arrests religious leader in UP
NEW DELHI: Maharashtra ATS team on Wednesday arrested religious leader Dayanand Pande from Kanpur in Uttar Pradesh to question him in the
Malegaon blasts case.

A three teams of Maharashtra anti-terrorism squad had reached Uttar Pradesh on Tuesday night in search of a "high profile religious leader" whose name cropped up during the investigation of Malegaon September 29 bomb blasts.

While several names of suspected religious leaders were floated by the media, the ATS was reluctant to speak about it earlier.
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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

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Aditya_V wrote:Inder Sharma, You got my post completly wrong. I was not stating an RSS link up but the fact that ULFA yesterday claimed RSS was responsible for the Guwahati blasts. Today COngress is saying RSS is responsible for Guwahati blasts.

So what I was referring to was how disgustingly the Congress, Indian media is jumping to ULFA's aide and stating that what the ULFA says is the truth and nothing but the truth.

Sorry Aditya, No Offense mean't or Taken.
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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

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Not directly related to Malegaon but more to the "secularism". onder what excatly is the charge against BD now? Any Hindu name crops up in any investigation and we hear cries of banning the entire sangh!!!? :roll: :roll:

I am not a great symphatiser of the Sangh but such blatant ganging up for unrelated reasons against them makes me take their side...
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Report on Bajrang Dal's activities, Govt to states

Amidst demands for a ban on Bajrang Dal, the Union Home Ministry on Wednesday sought details of activities of the Hindutva organisation from all states.

In a letter to the state governments, the ministry has sought details of the action taken by them to check their activities, a Home Ministry official said.

Though there was no official word whether the Centre was contemplating a ban on the organisation, as demanded by some key UPA allies, sources said such inputs were required before declaring any organisation as outlawed.

Sources said the name of Bajrang Dal was specifically mentioned in the letter sent by the Home Ministry.

The letter comes in the backdrop of incidents of communal violence in some parts of the country leading to demands for strict action against individuals and groups involved in the attacks.

"The ministry of Home Affairs has written to state governments and sought details of the action they may have taken," the official said.

The demand for strong action against the Hindutva organisations, including Bajrang Dal, VHP and RSS have been made both inside and outside the ruling UPA, with some key coalition partners demanding a ban on these groups.
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Re: Malegaon blasts and the limits of fake secularism

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What prevents BJP from making this an election issue?
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Its getting deeper. Center will ban BJP also if thats the only way they can win.
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