Terror Attacks in Mumbai

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 03:08

gandharva wrote:Mumbai attacks cast cloud over Test, Champions League
Champions League under review, England wait for advice
http://content-usa.cricinfo.com/ci/cont ... 79813.html

I guess everyone has their priorities.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 03:09

people are still stuck inside the burning building. they are crying for help.
damn !

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 27 Nov 2008 03:09

Folks, please stop equating 911 to these attacks. The attacks on India have been going on for ages now. Equating 911 to these kind of makes it appear that terrorism is something new to India. And our land has seen attacks and loot for centuries. Please resist the urge, and let us not redefine things from others point of view, at least until the situation returns to normalcy. Thanks.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Nov 2008 03:09

AT ops should be started on active seek mode on all parts of India, NOW.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 03:10

Rahul M wrote:fire brigade has started work at taj.

God Bless them...brave souls!

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 27 Nov 2008 03:10

Times say 900 injured!!

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 Nov 2008 03:10

birju wrote:They are going to collapse this hotel, that is the plan. The ongoing explosions in my mind are to weaken the structure and/or to execute hostages.

Can see wate being sprayed.

However, as a young architect, interning at Patel Batliwala and Associates I had the distinct honor of working on both the Tajs. Very sad to see what I am seeing.

Clearly the fire was preplanned - these buildings are made of brick and really cannot produce the fires we see even if a person was to force the issue without a fire accelerator.

CNN is reporting reporting that the pigs were after foriegners - asked for passports, etc.

Also, showed a clip of a police vehicle commandered by the pigs shooting at a crowd that was accepting that vehicle to contain police.

A Arun · Post by **A Arun** » 27 Nov 2008 03:11

SaiK wrote:The date is 27-11 -> which points to 9 -> 11 [911].

there is something here.

Most of the recent blasts in India have taken place either on the 13th or the 26th of the month.

Jaipur blasts - 13 May
Ahmedabad blasts - 26 July
Delhi blasts - 13 September
Mumbai attacks - 26 November

Duangkomon · Post by **Duangkomon** » 27 Nov 2008 03:11

Just now I was watching the aussie morning show "Sunrise" where they had an expat on the phone from Mumbai. The man on the line nervously told them that he saw 2 gunmen who looked 17-18 years old with AK 47s come into the cafe throw a grenade and start shooting. The anchor kept asking the usual "what happened, were you frightened" type of questions until he cut her off and said (paraphrasing) "sorry to put you on the spot. I am actually trapped in a ******* room in ****** with few others. I don't have a weapon and I need to get out of here. The reason you guys called me was because a mate I called to get some info gave you my number". This is while explosions could be heard going on in the back ground.

This left these anchors in absolute shock who until then were going along their usual ditsy selves clueless on the gravity of what's going on despite knowing there is a hostage situation going on.

Their apathy to non western issues has got a rude awakening.

vivek_ahuja · Post by **vivek_ahuja** » 27 Nov 2008 03:11

Vivek Sreenivasan wrote: Stupid idiots in media are going to give away the exact moment when the special forces are going to storm.

You sure? To me it seems like at the moment they are repeating the same stuff, showing videos taken from far away or mouthing garbage.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Nov 2008 03:11

Rahul M,
What part is the delusion? This is unlike anyother past attacks and is probably bigger than Parliament attack. It is highly coordinated and it is an open attack by gunmen.
Also, the westeners are targetted here and it sets it apart from any previous attacks.

Also, reporting what is actually happening is one thing and that is happening in plenty here. Analyzing is crucial as well and please don't shut up others who are attempting to think a little.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 27 Nov 2008 03:12

Taj has stairwall full of dead bodies - SMS message to media

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:12

BBC analyst states that these attacks are similar to ones in 1993 which had political affliation.
Foreigners are being targeted, terrorists are looking for British and American Visa passport holders.

Mandeep · Post by **Mandeep** » 27 Nov 2008 03:12

The Army normally stations one infantry battalion in Mumbai to show the flag and be available for internal security duties. They are under command HQ Maharashtra, Gujarat and Goa Area. At one time in common with Chennai, Kolkutta and the Andamans this was a monopoly of the Gorkha Brigade.Currently a battalion of the Grenadiers (called the Bombay Grenadiers till 1946) is stationed there.

Apart from the Grenadiers the Army has other combat support, combat service support, logistic and administrative units in Mumbai.Any number of reinforcements can be brought in from Pune, Ahmednagar, Nasik, Aurangabad etc or flown in from other parts of the country.

The IN of course has the excellent Marcos in station who are trained for hostage rescue and special intervention.They also have a large number of sailors available for internal security.

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 27 Nov 2008 03:14

I guess everyone has their priorities.

You misunderstood me sir!!

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 03:15

rgsrini wrote:Rahul M,
What part is the delusion? This is unlike anyother past attacks and is probably bigger than Parliament attack. It is highly coordinated and it is an open attack by gunmen.
Also, the westeners are targetted here and it sets it apart from any previous attacks.

Also, reporting what is actually happening is one thing and that is happening in plenty here. Analyzing is crucial as well and please don't shut up others who are attempting to think a little.

not trying to shut anyone up.

just my frustration with the current situation showing I guess.

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:15

CNN IBN says that no hostage situation in TAj Hotel - true?

vivek_ahuja · Post by **vivek_ahuja** » 27 Nov 2008 03:16

A Arun wrote:Most of the recent blasts in India have taken place either on the 13th or the 26th of the month.

Jaipur blasts - 13 May
Ahmedabad blasts - 26 July
Delhi blasts - 13 September
Mumbai attacks - 26 November

Every alternate month too.

So when's the next attack? 13 January?

Overall a pretty grim statistic (however coincidental it might be)

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:16

Someone journo is talking to BBC world service....saying that the special forces are waiting for orders to go in. Idiot. Hopefully he doenst say exactly when.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Nov 2008 03:16

Mandeep wrote:The IN of course has the excellent Marcos in station who are trained for hostage rescue and special intervention.They also have a large number of sailors available for internal security.

They have to too many ops in one shot.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 03:16

My goodness..CNN is showing a video of Taj with some people still in room!

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 27 Nov 2008 03:16

I see the water is being sprayed.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 03:17

NRao wrote:CNN (US) reporting that one of the issues with these terrorist is getting rid of Western influence.

Grrrr....Fox reporter was saying same thing.....p!ssed me so much that I switched off TV and started cursing.....As if all the Indian growth is because wea are aping westerners...Grrr...CNN ticked me all the more off by saying that no Americans were hurt over and over...as if Indian lives don't matter...

Sorry for the venting out and steering away from the topic at hand....

India is to be bled to death by a thousand cuts...our neighbour to the west's strategy.

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:17

Fire's out at least in one of the corners

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 03:17

A new outfit will claim responsibility and the govt will chadse its tail while the real perpetrators are sipping zam zam coal over goat kababs.

Just nuke the pukis and then say sorry.

Rudradev · Post by **Rudradev** » 27 Nov 2008 03:18

Hope all are well, all of you fellow Mumbaikars and your families.

Meanwhile, I submitted the following at CNN's comments page:

Zain Verjee's hyperventilating speculation about "Hindu Terrorism" being involved in the ongoing Mumbai attacks is not only baseless, but it's also in very bad taste. A Muslim terrorist organization has already claimed responsibility for the attack, as for a large number of earlier attacks against Indian civilians. Meanwhile, not a single allegation of terrorism has been legally proven against any Hindu group at any time.

Perhaps Ms. Verjee's editorializing derives from the fact that she is herself a practicing Muslim. As far as journalistic credibility is concerned, her accusing Hindu Terrorists for the ongoing Mumbai attacks ranks right up there with Pakistanis and Al-Qaeda blaming "Israeli Zionists" for 9-11.

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:18

900 injured! You sure? Can the report be confirmed?

Manny · Post by **Manny** » 27 Nov 2008 03:19

I feel like we have lost our country to the terrorists and its desi supporters who have hijacked our government!

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:19

Zain Verjee actually implied they caught hindu terrorists for earlier commuter train bombings. my jaw dropped!

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 27 Nov 2008 03:21

ramana wrote:A new outfit will claim responsibility and the govt will chadse its tail while the real perpetrators are sipping zam zam coal over goat kababs.

Just nuke the pukis and then say sorry.

Just my thoughts!!!

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 27 Nov 2008 03:21

I agree with some others here, this is a big operation. Can we rule out domestic groups or Hindu outfits? Targeting foreigners is not something Hindu outfits do routinely in India, right?

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 03:22

Rudradev wrote:Hope all are well, all of you fellow Mumbaikars and your families.

Meanwhile, I submitted the following at CNN's comments page:

Zain Verjee's hyperventilating speculation about "Hindu Terrorism" being involved in the ongoing Mumbai attacks is not only baseless, but it's also in very bad taste. A Muslim terrorist organization has already claimed responsibility for the attack, as for a large number of earlier attacks against Indian civilians. Meanwhile, not a single allegation of terrorism has been legally proven against any Hindu group at any time.

Perhaps Ms. Verjee's editorializing derives from the fact that she is herself a practicing Muslim. As far as journalistic credibility is concerned, her accusing Hindu Terrorists for the ongoing Mumbai attacks ranks right up there with Pakistanis and Al-Qaeda blaming "Israeli Zionists" for 9-11.

Wow amazing Rudradev...Claps...good write-up....

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 03:22

John McLaughun is on CNN USA..watch

Islamic terrorists..

Same mantra...ratchet up Indian/Pakistan tension, India puts more troops on Kashmir border, Pakistan replies..situation deteriorates in Afghanistan.

Mandeep · Post by **Mandeep** » 27 Nov 2008 03:22

I really don't appreciate the fact of NSG deployment or movement being broadcast to the media. It may suit the politicians to give the impression that they're doing something but these sort of operations are always supposed to be kept secret unless there's a psyops angle involved.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 27 Nov 2008 03:23

Vivek I am glad today you are not busy hugging whoever you hug (as you did during Delhi blast). Why, if I had said 200 injured, would that have been a better figure? Yes 900 injured as per Timenow

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 27 Nov 2008 03:23

right i too heard that. she said hindus were caught wrt to mumbai train blasts.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 03:23

Jagan wrote:Zain Verjee actually implied they caught hindu terrorists for earlier commuter train bombings. my jaw dropped!

Well now you know what the Malegoan inqusistion after effects are? There will be no more Islamist terror only Hindu self inflicted terror.

See SwamyG who has been on this forum for quite some time is also doubtful about who did this? What to expect which way the tree falls?

birju · Post by **birju** » 27 Nov 2008 03:24

john mclaughlin is sayin in his opinion that it is Kashmiri separatist groups or al qaida based militants who want to draw indian and pakistani troops to the border.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 Nov 2008 03:24

sunilUpa wrote:John McLaughun is on CNN USA..watch

Islamic terrorists..

Rightly linking it to AQ.

Vivek Sreenivasan · Post by **Vivek Sreenivasan** » 27 Nov 2008 03:24

Cant rule anyone out..YET. Once the 9 captured terrorists have been interrorgated well have a better idea. Considering they have killed top police brass, i have a feeling thier integorration is not going to be pleasant.