Terror Attacks in Mumbai

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 04:17

Watch CNN they will be bringing up Yasmin, a CNN reporter who was inside the hotel when the attack took place.

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 27 Nov 2008 04:18

The photo of the terrorist, his eye looks bloodshot, lots of drugs?

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Nov 2008 04:18

As usal Amanapore talks all the nonsense.

hnair · Post by **hnair** » 27 Nov 2008 04:19

sunilUpa wrote:^^^NO BPJ's

SunilUpa, they go in if they have to. We are not the west and these men are ex[ected by the Indian public to shoot to kill and not take rounds on their chests. That is an immense advantage, if you are fighting such crazies.

Let us revisit these issues later, but not now. This situation has to be stabilized, one way or the other.

ajay_hk · Post by **ajay_hk** » 27 Nov 2008 04:19

CNN-IBN reporting that 50 people rescued from Hotel Taj.

GuruNandan · Post by **GuruNandan** » 27 Nov 2008 04:19

NDTV has reported that the encounter at TAJ has come to an end and the terrorists
there have been killed. Most people have been evacuated

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 04:20

kshirin wrote:
rgsrini wrote: Another possibility is that some one is forcing us to chose our allies, instead of sitting on the fence.
Once we get our priorities right the identification of allies will follow. We cannot sit on our hands yet again. Maybe the reason, to answer an older post, that no one has appeared on TV yet to reassure that things are under control, is because it cannot be acknowledged that they took their eye off the ball. Clealry after the horrenouds attacks starting in Kabul - nothing has been done to identify and defang the terror network. This is the grim and horrendous result.

I am dying to know the middle Eastern reaction to this incident...nt sure if they have risen from their slumber dreaming abt the 72 virgin uh...records uh...Airlines...uh never mind...

Al Jazeera website here I come......

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 04:20

Muppalla wrote:As usal Amanapore talks all the nonsense.

like ?

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 27 Nov 2008 04:20

http://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/ ... Mumbai.htm

Search for Foreigners Mounts After Terrorists Strike Mumbai
Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, left, is the co-director of Chabad-Lubavitch of Mumbai, India. His whereabouts are unknown following one of the worst terrorist attacks in India's history.
Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, left, is the co-director of Chabad-Lubavitch of Mumbai, India. His whereabouts are unknown following one of the worst terrorist attacks in India's history.
By Joshua Runyan
Nov 26, 2008

Terrorists attacked multiple locations in Mumbai, India, late Wednesday night, with much of the gunfire occurring near the Chabad-Lubavitch center run by Rabbi Gavriel and Rivka Holtzberg.

By 3:00 a.m. local time, police reports indicated at least 78 people were killed when gunmen affiliated with an unknown Islamic terrorist group entered a series of hotels, a central train station and other popular tourist sites and began firing. An initial police response was met by heavy resistance; at least three officers, including a top commander, are dead, according to IBN, the local CNN’s local sister station. Throughout the night, people reported explosions, which police attributed to grenades carried by the terrorists. More than 200 were injured.

Of particular concern to authorities is the report of two gunmen taking foreign tourists hostage at the five-star Oberoi Hotel. The Indian military was reportedly making preparations to take the hotel by force before daybreak. Another 100 tourists and three members of India’s parliament were holed up in the Taj Mahal Hotel.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 04:20

Next two hours are critical. Ned to finsh this asap at any cost. Cant have a Sadat moment.

picture at CNN.com

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 04:21

fanne wrote:The photo of the terrorist, his eye looks bloodshot, lots of drugs?

Red eye? Tried removing it in my computer...nt very successful...

ajay_hk · Post by **ajay_hk** » 27 Nov 2008 04:21

NDTV flashing news: Hotel Taj encounter ends - 2 terrorists killed.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Nov 2008 04:21

the fact that 9 points of attack, we have largely focused on Taj.. nice strategy by terrorists to de-focus army ops or ats ops, to Taj, while they attack and escape from other places of attacks.

we need to still chase.. this is not over folks!

vavinash · Post by **vavinash** » 27 Nov 2008 04:22

Pity... I would have loved these SOB's to be killed on screen or burnt alive by an angry mob in front of paki embassy. But kudos to the army. They seem intent on finishing off these paki vermins before sunrise.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 27 Nov 2008 04:22

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/S ... 3F54EABECD}

'You don't feel safe'
Nick Chamie, head of emerging markets research at RBC Capital Markets, said that although India is somewhat used to attacks, any rise in political instability could further weigh on its market and economy.
"Generally, politics have never been a factor of strength for India. But that would add to the headwinds that the Indian market and the economy will face, that's for sure," Chamie added. "With the elections not due until next year, there's already some degree of paralysis about the economy right now."
India's sensitive index, or Sensex, rallied Wednesday, gaining 3.8% to 9,026.72. But the benchmark has lost about half its value so far this year, as investors pulled their money out of emerging markets around the globe.
Rob Lutts, the chief investment officer of Cabot Money Management, a Salem, Mass.-based independent wealth-management firm, said that to get money flowing back to India, investors need to feel the country is a safe place to invest. A spate of terror attacks show that it is not.
"Security is lacking, infrastructure is lacking," Lutts said. "The way to monitor and prevent these [attacks] is not there."
To be sure, Lutts said the market's reaction to the latest round of attacks will likely be limited. As the global credit crisis and economic downturn takes its toll on emerging markets, negative developments to some degree are already priced into current levels.
"When bad news occurs when valuations are already so low, it doesn't have much of an impact," he said.
In the longer term, India needs to improve conditions for capital investment to expand wealth and inspire more confidence in projects in the country, he said, adding that "I do believe that will happen over time" as the global recession wanes.
But for now, he commented, "You don't feel safe there and your capital doesn't feel safe, either." End of Story

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 04:23

Yasmin reporting lots of people with bullet wounds in Taj.

HNair...I am sure they will be ready to go in without a rifle too, if BPJ's can save life of even one of them..they should have them.

But I agree, let's talk about it later.

Yasmin reporting NO TV, but blackberry on..

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 27 Nov 2008 04:24

Hi!

Serious question. I got a call from a US source stating that there was "civil unrest" in Mumbai. They have offices and operations there, so they are definitely "in the know".

Any signs of anything other than terrorist attack?

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 04:25

From Al Jazeera.....

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia/ ... 65818.html

Note the use of single quotes around the word TERROR....GRRRR......

As per one of our Babus -- > "It seems to be a terrorist attack, many places are under siege by gunmen," A.K. Sharma, a government police commissioner, said on Wednesday.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Nov 2008 04:26

narayanan wrote:Hi!

Serious question. I got a call from a US source stating that there was "civil unrest" in Mumbai. They have offices and operations there, so they are definitely "in the know".

Any signs of anything other than terrorist attack?

It is not possible at this time as there is RAF across the city and suburbs.

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 27 Nov 2008 04:26

where did the terrorist video photo come from?

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 Nov 2008 04:26

MSNBC reporting that SD stating that Pakistan may not be involved!!!!!!!!!!!

fanne · Post by **fanne** » 27 Nov 2008 04:27

How come one guest said that there were 20-25 terrorists and they have only gotten 4. Have others changed dress and kind of mingling and escaping away. Of course the foreigner account can be wrong.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Nov 2008 04:27

Next two hours are critical. Ned to finsh this asap at any cost.

Ramana,
It appears that India has learnt its lessons from Kandhahar and they are very clear on not having another one now. The authorities seem to have clear instructions to eliminate the threat and without resorting to negotiation, irrespective of the casualities. I am deducting this from the speed in which the army is deployed and the rescue operations are being conducted.
It may appear chaotic, but I do believe that it is being handled very well by the authorities.

I hope my perception is true. It will spoil the plans of the planners if India refuses to negotiate and is willing to sacrifice foreign life. (Unfortunately foreign life has more impact internationally than Indian life, even if we do not want that to be the case)

Sridhar · Post by **Sridhar** » 27 Nov 2008 04:29

Jagan wrote:where did the terrorist video photo come from?

Security cameras. Here is another photo - of two terrorists - teh guy with the Versa T-shirt and another guy...

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 27 Nov 2008 04:30

WOW. Zain is using the word "terrorist"!!!!!!!!!!

She is saying that IM resent the links and closeness between India and the US and that this is a way for "lashing back".

What BS. She needs to resign her post at CNN.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 27 Nov 2008 04:30

So money markets are already talking. All that appeasing terrorists is not paying. They have come back to bite. Maybe better sense will prevail in future. Maybe they will declare emergency and form unity govt and go after the Pakis.

N^3 No unrest. Its a plain terrorist attack in multiple places(9) and multiple targets (railway station, hospitals and hotels- all places of civilians are to be found). No riots or retaliation.

Sridhar, that fellow was there with the blood shot eyes!

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 04:31

Sridhar wrote:
Jagan wrote:where did the terrorist video photo come from?
Security cameras. Here is another photo - of two terrorists - teh guy with the Versa T-shirt and another guy...

The one on the left is the same guy from earlier...

Oops...looks like Sridhar mentioned it already...

"Security cameras. Here is another photo - of two terrorists - teh guy with the Versa T-shirt and another guy..."

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 04:32

fanne wrote:How come one guest said that there were 20-25 terrorists and they have only gotten 4. Have others changed dress and kind of mingling and escaping away. Of course the foreigner account can be wrong.

15 was the number.

action has not, I repeat not finished at either taj or oberoi.

n^3 ji, the whole city is under curfew, unrest is very unlikely at this moment of time. I'll try to confirm from relatives.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Nov 2008 04:35

Sridhar wrote: Security cameras. Here is another photo - of two terrorists - teh guy with the Versa T-shirt and another guy...

I think it says "Versace"

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 27 Nov 2008 04:35

no unrest. I called few folks there and nothing like that.

Sridhar · Post by **Sridhar** » 27 Nov 2008 04:36

That sounds right. The previous photo only showed Versa, but this one shows a "c" at the end.

Manu · Post by **Manu** » 27 Nov 2008 04:37

May Ishwar give peace to the souls of all the dead. And I pray for a speedy recovery for all the injured.

I had said a month or so ago that when the next inevitable attack comes, I hope it comes in Delhi. Better response time and more effective reaction - as that is the seat of power. However, it was not to be. Mumbai (and one could always sense it was going to happen sooner rather than later) has once again been attacked. My heart really bleeds for Mumbai.

2007-08 must have been the worst year for India in our history since independence w.r.t Terrorist strikes? In any other country some one would have accepted responsibility, but not here. After a week, even this will be used to draw political mileage.

The terrorists must have realized that in the past year or so they have killed many thousands all over the length and breadth of the country but have been unable to effectively cause fear in the hearts and minds of the rich folks. The Business leaders, decision makers, movers and shakers if you will. Planting Bombs in Dustbins and sending emails kills a lot of ordinary citizens, but the effect is not the same. So this time they took AK-47s, grenades, Rocket Launchers, and decided to go after the folks who really *need to feel fear* if Indian Economy has to suffer. Of Course, now that they have done it so openly, it will be difficult for our Patriotic Leadership and Media to spin this. Like a headless Chicken, the administration bumbles about, and the cops they manipulate have to pay the ultimate price. Hope some motivated section of the Cops now realize something, the Politicians will NEVER get shot at, neither will the media. Only you and I brother. So don't get manipulated. This is your country. Your women and children have to grow up here, and they don't have Z security.

And the coverage in US is acquiring a disturbing (had to happen) angle - India is no longer safe for business and businessmen. Welcome to Beirut Syndrome.

I suppose the non-response of the administration is frustrating even the Terrorists. At least this time they will respond, they must wonder. But then Hope Triumphs over Experience.

Still coming to Desh on Friday, if New Delhi is around by then.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 27 Nov 2008 04:37

My cousins close friend at Oberois was shot dead as she walked out from the reception after a grenade blast early on today. Cannot give more details here for obvious reasons. This is nothing but an assault on the Indian state.

brihaspati · Post by **brihaspati** » 27 Nov 2008 04:37

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Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 27 Nov 2008 04:38

What kind of a gun is in the hands of the ********? AK-47?

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 27 Nov 2008 04:40

CNN confirms foreign casualties, "...many foreigners have been killed."

vsudhir · Post by **vsudhir** » 27 Nov 2008 04:41

lakshmic wrote:
Sridhar wrote: Security cameras. Here is another photo - of two terrorists - teh guy with the Versa T-shirt and another guy...

I think it says "Versace"

I thought it said 'Universal'. The Verse part is clearly visible in the second foto of the turd.

Rahul M · Post by **Rahul M** » 27 Nov 2008 04:41

Rahul Shukla wrote:What kind of a gun is in the hands of the ********? AK-47?

looks AK family but smaller.

Paul · Post by **Paul** » 27 Nov 2008 04:44

Since the business elites have been targetted I do expect some form of retaliation to take place to show the masses something is getting done.

However the timing is bad for the UPA as it is uncomfortably close to election time and the time to arm twist business elites to shell out money for the elections is not far. So something will happen...probably Shivraj Patil may resign.

that could be the extent of action the state may take.

Vikramaditya · Post by **Vikramaditya** » 27 Nov 2008 04:46

2007-08 must have been the worst year for India in our history since independence w.r.t Terrorist strikes?

Nope. 1989. 300K Hindus ethnically cleansed literally overnight and hundreds if not thousands killed. Media coverage was non existant that time.