Terror Attacks in Mumbai

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 27 Nov 2008 06:16

More rounds of Fire at Taj. 12 shots reported. Firing coming from lobby of the taj.

NDTV reports that Police sources say terrorists arrived through boats.

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The terrorists are in various parts of the Taj hotel. Not together.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 27 Nov 2008 06:20

All..right...folks.. Every nation, especially US has marked this is the most important aspect that should be affecting India. Now, I only hope we don't do a sarva dharma prayer, and then keep it at knee jerk.

Whatever operation you want to call it.. let that begin. Let it start from Flush Mumbai!

RavinM · Post by **RavinM** » 27 Nov 2008 06:21

now tell me, irrespective of wether they came by boat, or on a jet pack, is it possible to carry guns and enter Mumbai so easily? what were the intelligence oxy-morons doing? playing hide and seek, and now scores of innocent people are sacrificed. I thought Mumbai had high security ,given it had seen this kind of attrocity before.

Ujjal · Post by **Ujjal** » 27 Nov 2008 06:24

There is a rumor going on that hostages include some SD hawks?

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 06:24

Tsk tsk....Host on MSNBC says that there are a lot of indigenous terror outfits in India who have "grievances" with the government...Dumb brain-less Western reporter with their "eye-rans" and "eye-raqs" ...hope that doesn't trigger off a "Muslims are poor in India and hence...." conversation amongst the pseudo-secularists of India......

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:26

My country is going to the dogs.

Morning when I woke up to see if India had won/lost the match, I saw this thread. My condolences to the dead.

I hope the NSG/MARCOS commandos can clean up the mess without any casualties.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 06:27

Why do we need anyone elses endorsement on pigs origin?

Damn..new fire just broke out on Taj.

R_Kumar · Post by **R_Kumar** » 27 Nov 2008 06:28

BijuShet wrote: Can India not have it's Clinton moment of 1998 when they fired cruise missiles into Afghanistan and Sudan. We have identified active training camps in POK and we have Brahmos. Can this not be the right moment to test these weapons? .

You are missing the point here. These people are bankrupt and have nothing to loose as they have no future. They will consider firing brahmos inside POK as war. To start with why not first fix our own house.

vijyeta · Post by **vijyeta** » 27 Nov 2008 06:29

Reporter on Times Now - 6 shots = 1 round

RavinM · Post by **RavinM** » 27 Nov 2008 06:29

India is not going to dogs/ can never go to dogs!, but is infested by real rabid ones, that need necks tied, and sent for slaughter!

kasper · Post by **kasper** » 27 Nov 2008 06:30

Yogi_G wrote:Tsk tsk....Host on MSNBC says that there are a lot of indigenous terror outfits in India who have "grievances" with the government...Dumb brain-less Western reporter with their "eye-rans" and "eye-raqs" ...hope that doesn't trigger off a "Muslims are poor in India and hence...." conversation amongst the pseudo-secularists of India......

Hah, hah!

That's why I don't bother to ever watch MSNBC....

Dileep · Post by **Dileep** » 27 Nov 2008 06:31

If only, instead of foreigners, it was a group of Indian MPs who were at the hotel.

As a matter of fact, there are 5 MPs stuck in the Taj, including our own Krishnadas.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:33

November 26, 2008: Several killed and many more injured in seven terror attacks targeting mostly foreigners' hangout places.

July 11, 2006: More than 200 people killed in seven blasts on suburban trains and stations.

August 25, 2003: 46 people killed in two blasts including one near the Gateway of India.

March 12, 1993: A series of bomb blasts left 257 dead and around 700 injured. Buildings attacked included the Bombay Stock Exchange, hotels, theatres, passport office, Air India building and Sahar Airport.

What has been the conviction rate please ? How many masterminds have been arrested and convicted by the court ?

Going by the trend I want to set up a biriyani hotel near the jail where the pigs will be holed up.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:34

How long before Ayodhya/Godhra is mentioned to lay the == blame game ? Add Modi to that effect.

A Sharma · Post by **A Sharma** » 27 Nov 2008 06:34

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Nov 2008 06:36

ssmitra wrote:
Vikramaditya wrote: Nope. 1989. 300K Hindus ethnically cleansed literally overnight and hundreds if not thousands killed. Media coverage was non existant that time.
what are you talking about. If 300,000 hindus were ethnically cleansed then how come hundreds were killed. hmmm

"Ethnic cleansing is a euphemism referring to the persecution through imprisonment, expulsion, or killing of members of an ethnic minority by a majority to achieve ethnic homogeneity in majority-controlled territory."

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 27 Nov 2008 06:36

RavinM wrote:now tell me, irrespective of wether they came by boat, or on a jet pack, is it possible to carry guns and enter Mumbai so easily? what were the intelligence oxy-morons doing? playing hide and seek, and now scores of innocent people are sacrificed. I thought Mumbai had high security ,given it had seen this kind of attrocity before.

Are you aware of the size of mumbai and the sheer number of people living there? IMHO, It's very very easy to bring something like an Ak-47 into the city. You have unrealistic expectations from the cops. Do you expect them to check each person/packet/car/truck entering the city?

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 27 Nov 2008 06:36

Why is the US media giving a non-stop coverage on these attacks. It is troubling. Big play. They are globalizing the terror. They are speculating LeT and IM involvement. Pakistan being said in almost every 5 sentence now.

Now why can't Indian officials are diplomats not seize this opportunity to appear on the TV to offer Indian perspective? Tom,Dick and Harry analysts are coming up on TV.

Wow, an analyst just said that one of the messages is to Pakistan Government to not warm up its relations with India. Are they reading BR?

I wish GoI had some kind of standing orders to dispatch spokespeople to appear in CNN, FoxNews & MSNBC. PR needs to be improved.

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 27 Nov 2008 06:37

Folks , Please keep the thread focussed on the news of the operations. Malegaon , shiv sena etc can go into other threads and not this one.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:37

Cnn,BBC,Reuters - all mention gunmen and not the *shock* dreaded word 'terrorist'.

Atleast NYTimes has a sympathetic article on the impotency of our d!ckless political leaders.

ssmitra · Post by **ssmitra** » 27 Nov 2008 06:38

A Sharma wrote:

This is sad. No BPJ no comm equipment. But I guess the response at BR will be they can do the job.
It will be sad if we loose a jawan because they can do the job

kasper · Post by **kasper** » 27 Nov 2008 06:39

Is it just the Oberoi and the Taj Hotels which are occupied by the terrorists?

Are they still at the hospital?

Jagan · Post by **Jagan** » 27 Nov 2008 06:39

Nayak wrote:Cnn,BBC,Reuters - all mention gunmen and not the *shock* dreaded word 'terrorist'.

Atleast NYTimes has a sympathetic article on the impotency of our d!ckless political leaders.

CNN started off with 'militants' but is now pretty much settled on the word 'terrorist'

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:40

edited - Note below

Baljeet · Post by **Baljeet** » 27 Nov 2008 06:43

ADMIN NOTE

NO POLITICS, NO EMOTICONS.

For All members.

Please - do not derail the thread by bringing in Politics, Religion, History etc etc. We are using this to track the progress of the events and knowing the latest about the situation. Last thing we need are opinions and discourses

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:44

So in total how many pigs were involved ?

Of the 80 dead what is the split between locals and foreigners ?

How many hostages ?

Who is appearing in charge on TV ?

kasper · Post by **kasper** » 27 Nov 2008 06:45

Could this possibly have anything to do with the incident regarding the Indian Navy blowing up that ship last week?

I say this becuase someone said that some of the terrorists arrived by boat...

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 27 Nov 2008 06:45

kasper wrote:Could this possibly have anything to do with the incident regarding the Indian Navy blowing up that ship last week?

I say this becuase someone said that some of the terrorists arrived by boat...

RDX for '93 blasts came by boat.

joshvajohn · Post by **joshvajohn** » 27 Nov 2008 06:47

I suggest that Sivaraj Patil should resign as he is incapable of handling such terror attacks. In his interview he takes it so simple at least in my reading of it saying I hear from the police that some people are attacked in the hotel by some terrorists. I think there should be someone who is strong in handling this heavily should come in.

Second there is an intelligence failure here. Either there was no information or the information was neglected by the intelligence.

Third if the attackers were coming with the support of local Muslim communities then I think all those who accommodated and who were supportive in one way or the other should be held accountable.

If India is clear about the support and supply from other side of the border particularly in Pakistan or in Bangladesh then India should go into the border via air or land and see that such training and armed groups are attacked within their territory. Without getting into this serious business, the territory of Pakistan and Bangladesh will be happily used with the support of a few in those lands.

For such attacks even the US can be working alongside Indian to work into the territory of Pakistan just as Afgans are working with US inside Pakistan territory as the Pakistani land has become a land of anarchy for such people.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Nov 2008 06:48

I woke up and TV still doesnt seem to have a clue other than just talk talk talk.

the taj is still on fire.

Mundeji was trying to look his sorrowful face expressing "deep shock" at the death of his top cops

would be good to know how so many experienced cops like salaskar
died last night. I mean they werent untrained pandus fishing way above their level.

TV also says 90% of ATS were busy with the malegaon "investigation"

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 27 Nov 2008 06:49

6 bideshi hostages in one of Oberoi upper floor is the word.

jmaxwell · Post by **jmaxwell** » 27 Nov 2008 06:50

SwamyG wrote:Why is the US media giving a non-stop coverage on these attacks.

Because there is money to be made. As long as they keep the focus on "terrorism"; any incident where US lives are being jeopardized; people are going to tune in. The shock-and-awe moments are being capitalized on, in an unprecedented fashion by the MSM. Besides, we are a little tired of the obama love fest. We need new tragedies to keep us glued to the news channels.

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 27 Nov 2008 06:50

Naval officers and some commondos have just comeout of the hotel.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 27 Nov 2008 06:50

Nayak wrote:How long before Ayodhya/Godhra is mentioned to lay the == blame game ? Add Modi to that effect.

How long? Please watch CNN. Zaine Verjie, supposed 'south asia' expert is laready peddling the line that Indian policy brutality aagainst Muslims is creating a clinate for terror recruits. Make me sick.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 27 Nov 2008 06:51

Does anybody appear in-charge here ? Oh wait, our PM is soundly asleep at the wheel.

rgsrini · Post by **rgsrini** » 27 Nov 2008 06:51

shiv wrote:There is a deep - deep political link between India's inability to check terrorism versus the US's ability to crack down after just one attack.

I don't disagree. But I do believe that there is a strong external root cause which is inciting this and controlling this. While I don't deny that the external root cause(s) has invested in our politics for several years to cultivate men of power, the root cause is still external and that is what we need to concentrate on.

OT warning:
Then there are the common variety despicable politicians like M Karunanidhi who create new problems (anti-hindi, anti-brahmin) to polarize people to garner votes. The Maharashtra goons belong to that category and their crime is no less dangerous to the nation and they should be eliminated (from politics atleast) as well. The TN goons have all but forgotten their original demands now that they used to come to power, if you care to notice. But the scar still remains.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 06:52

kasper wrote:
Yogi_G wrote:Tsk tsk....Host on MSNBC says that there are a lot of indigenous terror outfits in India who have "grievances" with the government...Dumb brain-less Western reporter with their "eye-rans" and "eye-raqs" ...hope that doesn't trigger off a "Muslims are poor in India and hence...." conversation amongst the pseudo-secularists of India......

Hah, hah!

That's why I don't bother to ever watch MSNBC....

Don't worry...not long before other channels will play up the political correctness card and our Indian channels will humbly pick up on the same.......

Baljeet · Post by **Baljeet** » 27 Nov 2008 06:52

Baljeet wrote:ADMIN NOTE

NO POLITICS, NO EMOTICONS.

For All members.

Please - do not derail the thread by bringing in Politics, Religion, History etc etc. We are using this to track the progress of the events and knowing the latest about the situation. Last thing we need are opinions and discourses

Start cleaning up the posts dude! there will be discourses and opinions on such event. All terrorist attacks are about religion,history and politics.

Dmurphy · Post by **Dmurphy** » 27 Nov 2008 06:53

WTF...the NSG has just arrived at Oberoi and yet to leave for Taj!

What on earth took them soooo long? Had it been Israel, his would have been long over and they would have been undertaking retaliatory attacks by F-16s.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 27 Nov 2008 06:54

Nayak wrote:Does anybody appear in-charge here ? Oh wait, our PM is soundly asleep at the wheel.

our honourable PM is catching up on some sleep before he comes to the press and says that he lost sleep....