Terror Attacks on Mumbai-II

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 28 Nov 2008 07:56

More Choppers?

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 28 Nov 2008 07:57

narayanan wrote:
2 minutes old report!!!!!!!!

Well.. I saw the picture many hours ago.

Pic is old, report is new.

bahdada · Post by **bahdada** » 28 Nov 2008 07:57

I feel so numb. All I dream of is a brilliant field of glass westward from the Indus....

Forgive me if this is out of line.

/end rant.

JH!

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 28 Nov 2008 07:58

Can we please get a confirmation as to how many of the terrorists have been captured and exactly how may have been killed?

vdutta · Post by **vdutta** » 28 Nov 2008 08:01

someone waving white piece of cloth from nariman house. noone know who that is..

ajay_hk · Post by **ajay_hk** » 28 Nov 2008 08:02

A white hand kerchief being waved from the window of Nariman house - second/third floor. Not sure if this is a terrorist or a hostage yet.

madhum · Post by **madhum** » 28 Nov 2008 08:03

Some pictures from a telugu daily:

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Nov 2008 08:04

dont be too hard on them. they are merely kept for crowd control and its adequate when
paired with police having tear gas, lathis and riot shields.

the mum police seen more near the sites all had ak47s and bpjs.

parshuram · Post by **parshuram** » 28 Nov 2008 08:05

Victor wrote:Can't believe I'm seeing this in 2009 almost. Truly a third world country, ours is. Poor chaps.

Even TOI says that In CST Cops were outmatched by the weapons terrorists were carrying .There SLR's were no match to sophisticated AK -47's and 56' s By the time cops could react terrorist had already killed 9 people ..

ajay_hk · Post by **ajay_hk** » 28 Nov 2008 08:06

Wow - finally some sense into CNN-IBN. They are specifically saying that they do not/ are not going to show/report on live action and compromise the NSG action.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Nov 2008 08:08

imo the NSG have merely taken up a strong position on the roof to pressurize the pigs inside
and let them know death is on their doorstep. the heli hovering close by after dropping people
off was also a pressure tactic.
a "final assault" would have long since cleared the building out.

interesting to note Mi17 was used not the IN sea kings.

Neshant · Post by **Neshant** » 28 Nov 2008 08:09

i notice 3 trends in some segment of the western media :

1) a strong attempt to portray the terrorists as being local to India. Check out article : "Clues suggest homegrown terrorists in India attack" where the contributing author is one Muneeza Naqvi (sounds pakistani) and no real Indian journalist.

2) Ignorant "terrorism experts" and "analysts" around the world giving their views and passing it off as fact. Most probably never even set foot in India in their life.

3) an attempt to differentiate between an al-queda terrorist attack from this attack. The message being that an al-queda attack only happens in a western country which is terrorism. if it happens in another country, its not an al-queda attack and not really terrorism.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Nov 2008 08:09

I was listening to a discussion in TimesNow yesterday where a British counter-terror expert Bob Ayers participated. He said that India cannot jump the gun and accuse Pakistan. He also said that even if some Pakistani was implicated it could not mean the Pakistani Government was involved just as nobody accused Saudi Arabia or Jamaica when some Saudis were involved in 9/11 or some Jamaicans were involved in some British incidents. UK will never let go of its protege, Pakistan.

Nobody countered him saying that India has a long history of dealing with Pakistan and since 1947 the Pakistani Government has been directly involved in all operations and we have proof.

The right response came from an Israeli, Kedar by name, who said that Pakistan has to be dismembered.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 28 Nov 2008 08:10

Same thought I had. I believe that a large part of the police force sent to Mumbai is to prevent the terrorists from winning - by triggering riots. I believe Ahmedabad also has a strong police presence on the streets for the same reason.

madhum · Post by **madhum** » 28 Nov 2008 08:14

Raj · Post by **Raj** » 28 Nov 2008 08:15

"Sources" believe that this is financed by a Maulana who is Indian citizen based in Saudi Arabia: NDTV
Some of the scum seem to be British Citizens of Pakistani descent. NDTV

g.sarkar · Post by **g.sarkar** » 28 Nov 2008 08:18

Arun_S wrote:

As an aside the brave Jawans and Officers are only remembered by Indian citizens and government on these occasions, asked to put their life on jeopardy, while their pay and status are worse than bus drivers that drive you up to the boarding gates of Jet Airways. Yes it is true the young officers in Army are paid less than drivers in civil companies.
What kind of justice is this?[/quote]

While I do not like the poet, these lines are very apt:
You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
Gautam

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Nov 2008 08:19

sunilUpa wrote:THe operation must have ended by now..

Heavy firing on now.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Nov 2008 08:20

Neshant wrote:i notice 3 trends in some segment of the western media :

This clearly an attempt to show local and regional problem and that India & Pakistan have been unable to settle the issue between themselves and hence US should insert itself.

bahdada · Post by **bahdada** » 28 Nov 2008 08:21

Despite being on an island thousands of miles away from my country as much of us are this side of the 'sphere....I feel distraught, helpless and I can only imagine how my countrymen are feeling.

Security has to be restored by that I mean a forceful show of SOVEREIGN INDIAN WILL must be displayed.

GoI!

Your children DEMAND IT from all across the nation and the globe!

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Nov 2008 08:22

As per NDTV, there are no hostages in Nariman house. It is all ops against the vermin there.

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 28 Nov 2008 08:22

An FBI team has left Los Angles to Mumbai to help with investigation.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Nov 2008 08:24

they should be immediately bussed away to goa and kept there , not allowed any access
to the sites except interviewing their own citizens.

this is about what we can expect if we sent a CBI team to NYC in aftermath of 911.

dont need no freakin FBI working to undermine our efforts and providing interviews to
media here.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Nov 2008 08:26

Looks like the Nariman House is on fire. The terrorists seem to have blown it up.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 28 Nov 2008 08:26

SSridhar wrote:
Neshant wrote:i notice 3 trends in some segment of the western media :
This clearly an attempt to show local and regional problem and that India & Pakistan have been unable to settle the issue between themselves and hence US should insert itself.

Sorry for the OT post. But the US inserted itself to stop Parakram in 2002. This attack shows that the US has failed and it is up to India now. This should be the response to any conversation that comes up around this.

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 28 Nov 2008 08:27

Vishnu reports that the choppers had to fire on Chabad/Nariman House to neutralize a threat before the commandos could be dropped. This pic shows some bullet holes and what may be a turd. I doubt a hostage would be on his own after this long. NSG guy would have helmet.

ajay_hk · Post by **ajay_hk** » 28 Nov 2008 08:27

There are apparently 3 terrorists holed up in Taj and not just the 1 injured pig as reported earlier. This was informed by a brigadier to the CNN-IBN spokesperson.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 28 Nov 2008 08:30

Those FBI twerps should not be allowed to inspect or have a look at the evidence.

Let them interview their citizens and that's it. No media interviews with the DDM also.

Those ba$tards will strategically lose evidence or leak dis-information to the media lapdogs.

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 28 Nov 2008 08:31

I wish all these officials would stop giving conflicting nos on the Taj and Oberoi. its fine
to say "we are not sure but search is on". doesnt give a good impression to be giving out
new figure every hour by multiple sources.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Nov 2008 08:33

SSridhar wrote:Looks like the Nariman House is on fire. The terrorists seem to have blown it up.

Are u sure?

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 28 Nov 2008 08:35

Initially Sharma and other ATS officers thought this was inter-gang-warfare hence the 'casual-ness' in the approach.

The reason why the Govt did not got for negotiations -
* ATS officers killed
* The jehadis were intent on causing maximum casualties and not interested in surrender
* Pressure on politicos to show a strong response.

First time India has responded with no-negotiation military hand.

All in all first-rate military commanded by third-rate politicians.

Jai Hind.

SaiK · Post by **SaiK** » 28 Nov 2008 08:35

Look the shoe markings.. must be the same pig, or pigs have bought similar shoe brands.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 28 Nov 2008 08:37

Muppalla wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Looks like the Nariman House is on fire. The terrorists seem to have blown it up.
Are u sure?

No, I am not but TimesNow reported that.

Nayak · Post by **Nayak** » 28 Nov 2008 08:37

I saw the public reaction on CNN-IBN. There is slow boiling anger at the frequent attacks on civilians and the impotent reaction of the politicians. Expect UPA to sit in opposition for the next 5 years.

India needs Modi to be at the helm. Advani is past his sell-by date.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 28 Nov 2008 08:38

Muppalla wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Looks like the Nariman House is on fire. The terrorists seem to have blown it up.
Are u sure?

I am watching times now live, and they don't say that. The commandos have surrounded Nariman house. But I am worried that should the pigs blow up the house, we could loose a lot of commandos who are top of the building.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 28 Nov 2008 08:40

They cannot blow the building as these are built with brick and mortar. They should bring a different kind of ammunition other than grenades. They could at the max create fire in a floor. It takes a longtime before the building comes down.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Nov 2008 08:41

Muppalla wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Looks like the Nariman House is on fire. The terrorists seem to have blown it up.
Are u sure?

Hasn't happened until 15 seconds ago

SwamyG · Post by **SwamyG** » 28 Nov 2008 08:41

****. CNN IBN uses the word "allegedly" when saying 1 pakistani arrested.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 28 Nov 2008 08:43

Maharoof Raza on TimesNow says it is Mi-8 that is being used airdrop NSG

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 28 Nov 2008 08:45

Raj wrote:"Sources" believe that this is financed by a Maulana who is Indian citizen based in Saudi Arabia: NDTV
Some of the scum seem to be British Citizens of Pakistani descent. NDTV

How else would anyone know that Israelis were in Nariman house if there was not a local involved?