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lakshmikanth wrote:
Nayak wrote:Who is the babette on Times Now going on breathlessly on the Taj destruction ?

I get only audio from desitv. Why cannot she control breathing ? Annoyingly she keeps drawing heavy breath in the commentary.
Should be either Deepti Menon or Mehroon-or-something-like-that

We need to create a duty-cycle indicator for such reporters high ratio of ooooh-ahhhhh babble rambling with actual meaning full speech means high duty-cycle. Deepti Menon has a duty cycle approximately = 1 :)
she is maruti nayak (Times-Now)
Duty Cycle = 87/13
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speak breath speak breath
i measured it again, its correct 87%
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shiv wrote:Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.

Conflicting accounts......
terrorist confirmed.
NDTV retracted its earlier statement of the body belonging to a NSG man.
the black dress created confusion IMO.
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shiv wrote:Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.

Conflicting accounts......
If you get to see a clear video (Times Now has one) it goes like this:

1) Piglet pokes gun out of the window
2) Piglet suddenly turns back
3) Glass shattering from window with bullets going through piglets body
4) Commando throwing fried piglet out.
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Sravan wrote:
Dilbu wrote: It does not matter whether she was Hindu or Muslim. She was an Indian. It is all that matters. Rest in peace sister.
I agree, let's not get into specifics here. India is united and I am damn glad it is. Now is the chance for us to Strike and Strike hard. The world is behind us.
It was never my intention to bring in a hindu-muslim dimension here, sirs. My apologies if my post suggested so.
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shiv wrote:Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.

Conflicting accounts......
Definitely a terrorist. One of the commandos stated the same on TimesNow interview as they were boarding the Best bus.
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lakshmikanth wrote:
shiv wrote:Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.

Conflicting accounts......
If you get to see a clear video (Times Now has one) it goes like this:

1) Piglet pokes gun out of the window
2) Piglet suddenly turns back
3) Glass shattering from window with bullets going through piglets body
4) Commando throwing fried piglet out.
I protest, every terrorist is entitled to human rights.
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kobe wrote:
lakshmikanth wrote: Should be either Deepti Menon or Mehroon-or-something-like-that

We need to create a duty-cycle indicator for such reporters high ratio of ooooh-ahhhhh babble rambling with actual meaning full speech means high duty-cycle. Deepti Menon has a duty cycle approximately = 1 :)
she is maruti nayak (Times-Now)
Duty Cycle = 87/13
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speak breath speak breath
i measured it again, its correct 87%

I think its mostly due to inexperience or excitement or both. I was ready to forgive it to some extent.. but when the babble duty cycle went upto 90 - 95% when the main CT attack was going on in Taj I just had to mute and watch it until the lady stopped talking !
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Rahul M wrote:
shiv wrote:Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.

Conflicting accounts......
terrorist confirmed.
NDTV retracted its earlier statement of the body belonging to a NSG man.
the black dress created confusion IMO.
Yes, the black dress created some confusion. But, he was wearing black shorts and black half-sleeved t-shirt or shirt.
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lakshmikanth wrote:
shiv wrote:Does anyone have any info on the body thrown out of the window at the Taj.

Conflicting accounts......
If you get to see a clear video (Times Now has one) it goes like this:

1) Piglet pokes gun out of the window
2) Piglet suddenly turns back
3) Glass shattering from window with bullets going through piglets body
4) Commando throwing fried piglet out.
I have this video - but I don't want to make my version public until I confirm. It does look like that - but need to cross check what Vishnu Som is supposed to have said.
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Thanks for the info - will work on the video and will post later ..
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The commando said that terrorist facing out near the window was about to pull the pin on when he senses the presence of commandos. He turned in surprised. Got the love-touch from the commandos and fell from the window.

I do not think anybody would be foolhardy to approach the pig in touching distance who had a grenade in his hand, shoot him and then throw him out of the window.
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ats sources tell that arrested terrorist were heavily drugged and that is why they were able to pull along for so long? -- ibn
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The press meet is going on with Vilasrao Deshmukh.

One British journalist tried to put words into the CM's mouth by asking him if he would deny any British Pakistani involvement. The CM recovered to say that they are not saying anything now as the investigation is going on.

Why is the British journalist terming his own countrymen as Pakistani descent etc ? Aren't they British ? Period ?
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http://in.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/28-s ... ttacks.htm

some decent questions posted on Rediff.
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It was a fried Porki flying out of the window.
i remember an Anchor women in Hindi
Translation in Angrezi

"Although it is inhumane to be laughing watching a Dying and Dead,
but I can't help me, and I wanna give the NSG a hug."
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Neela wrote:01:57 PM: Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [Images] holds meeting with top brass of defence services and intelligence chiefs to discuss Mumbai attacks

Trying to put public demo of some action. If MMS intends to do something he just had to meet NSA+RAW Chief in private to order just deserts for Pakistan
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I cannot believe we have such idiots in our country

Sri Amar Singh Ucvaca

Singh, whose party supports the Congress-led Government at the centre, said: "This is not the time to do a post-mortem on the failure of intelligence, which must have been there."
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Nayak wrote:The commando said that terrorist facing out near the window was about to pull the pin on when he senses the presence of commandos. He turned in surprised. Got the love-touch from the commandos and fell from the window.

I do not think anybody would be foolhardy to approach the pig in touching distance who had a grenade in his hand, shoot him and then throw him out of the window.
I concur that the throwing out part is not clear... but i did see a rather large black mass near the piglet appearing to be pushing him out... it could have been a video encoding issue or it could have been the piglets shirt getting torn off when he goes through the window... we can wait for (4) until official reports come out. But I sure hope he was thrown out ... he fell head down! And for the first time in my life I am happy to see a bullet ridden man going head down through the window! That scene is gonna be my wallpaper for a long time.
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milindc wrote:Headline Today showing face of Paki FM as he received the phone call from Mukheejee... The idiot was doing Aadab and blabbering some pleasantries.
He went pale and kept saying yes... :rotfl: :rotfl:
Definitely a keep

Also, Gaurav Sawant from Headline Today openly states that inviting ISI chief would be like calling a Murderer to examine evidence against him...

some DDM have had definitely some testosterone shots
Headline Today is now changing the tone of its reporting to naming Pakistan aggressively
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Shiv-saar, please post the video on Youtube or rapidshare.
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I would love to see what is the tone adopted by Dainik Jagran and other desi rags.

I am not concerned about the elite-toned TOI/CNN-IBN. They cater to a different audience.
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The NSG commando broke the window, possibly by firing shots, to throw the terrorist out head first.
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I just hope NSG should have first broken arms & legs of these terrorists. Lift them up, take them to top of Oberoi and should have thrown them down from there.
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Sumeet wrote:I cannot believe we have such idiots in our country

Sri Amar Singh Ucvaca

Singh, whose party supports the Congress-led Government at the centre, said: "This is not the time to do a post-mortem on the failure of intelligence, which must have been there."

It's harder to believe that this idiot gets face time on national TV and an intellectual like Bacchan calls him "my good friend" almost daily. He must have a lot of money and a lot of goons.

How the F do morons like these get elected?
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The two service chiefs of the Navy and the Air Force along with an Army General (Didn't get his name - COAS is out of the country) and the NSA first met with Pranab Mukerjee.

Then this group went in to meet the PM.


Now NDTV's twist on this: The govt seems to have realized that coastal security is seriously lacking and this meeting is to discuss ways to pass on information rapidly amongst the Navy, coast guard and the police. Compares Indian structure in poor light to the US after 911.
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BTW, could Pakis have chosen 'Chatrapati Shivaji Terminal' to send a message to India ? Knowing what Shivaji did to followers of ROP !!!
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SSridhar wrote:The NSG commando broke the window, possibly by firing shots, to throw the terrorist out head first.

The terrorist appeared to be burnt / blackened, was he hit by a flame thrower ?
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SSridhar wrote:
Why is the British journalist terming his own countrymen as Pakistani descent etc ? Aren't they British ? Period ?
Why do we care? It is in our interest if they start making that link more profoundly. Lot of money goes from UK Muslims to fund all sorts of things. It is in our interest if they clamp down on it. So I am all for them making that distinction. Britain and an average British is not our enemy. Pakistan is.
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Singh, whose party supports the Congress-led Government at the centre, said: "This is not the time to do a post-mortem on the failure of intelligence, which must have been there."
Be thankful he didnt say that the RSS was behind this, all the NSG guys commited suicide inside the Taj and the captured turd is innocent!!!!
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SSridhar wrote:The NSG commando broke the window, possibly by firing shots, to throw the terrorist out head first.
Why? Contempt or did they suspect he might explode with a ticking timebomb?
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jahaju wrote:
SSridhar wrote:The NSG commando broke the window, possibly by firing shots, to throw the terrorist out head first.

The terrorist appeared to be burnt / blackened, was he hit by a flame thrower ?
Possibly, the strategy was to corner them, smoke them and keep the pressure using sniper fire, its truly a harsh way to meet their 72 pigs.
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ajay pratap wrote:It was a fried Porki flying out of the window.
i remember an Anchor women in Hindi
Translation in Angrezi

"Although it is inhumane to be laughing watching a Dying and Dead,
but I can't help me, and I wanna give the NSG a hug."
Can any one post link for that video.


Now It will be interesting to note reaction of corporate world.

India Inc calls for strong security apparatus in financial capital
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/New ... 772299.cms
India Inc has asked for better political leadership and tougher laws to deal with terrorism.

FICCI president Rajeev Chandrasekhar said: “The attacks on Wednesday night were a clear and unambiguous attack on the Indian economy and all its participants. We need to join this debate on terrorism and demand stronger and firmer leadership and approach to this threat of terrorism, including better laws.”

His wasn’t the only blue-chip voice to demand change. Wockhardt CMD Habil Khorakiwala dittoed that sentiment saying: “This has happened mainly because we have not responded adequately to combat terrorism. The targets identified clearly demonstrates that the intention is to create panic and shatter the confidence of global investors coming to India.”
Across industry, the big concern is loss of credibility.

RPG Group vice chairman Sanjiv Goenka is the most unequivocal about it. “It is very, very worrisome,” he said. “It shakes our confidence in Mumbai.” Business leaders feel better counter-terror tactics and an established security mechanism are must for India’s financial capital. As JK Paper MD Harsh Pati Singhania said, it’s high time India developed and implemented ‘foolproof counter-terrorism mechanisms’ .

Adds Tafe director Mallika Srinivasan : “Our government must deal firmly with terrorism in order to sustain the environment of peace that is required promote economic progress.” The sense of anxiety is understandable . Suddenly terror isn’t a political issue any more. This time round it has hit industry squarely in the jaw by picking prime business locations for the attacks .

Many of the hostages and victims are actually senior executives of some of India’s biggest companies. Said Ispat Industries MD Vinod Mittal, “We have been personally hurt in Wednesday’s terrorist attacks as one of our senior executives was trapped in one of the city hotels. We are relieved that our colleague has come out safely.“


Industry association like CII, FICCI and Assocham have already said the attacks clearly targeted key locations of commercial importance. CII director general Chandrajit Banerjee said: “We need to learn from international best experiences on dealing with terror and make effective use of technology to ensure security of all public places.” Assocham president Sajjan Jindal demanded that security personnel be deployed in adequate numbers at all sensitive places including economic hubs.

In neighbouring Pune, an automobile and IT hub that houses a cluster of big factories for Mumbai-based companies , security has been stepped up. While most units are asking their existing security staff to be more alert, some like the Cummins group of companies have tied up with a security agency.

“This security agency tie up is mainly for our people. If any of our staff find themselves in any kind of a situation requiring relief or protection, they just have to call this agency,” said Cummins Generator Technologies MD Pradeep Bhargava.

Additionally, the group has asked all employees to observe normal precautions and travel only if they must.
The big employers in the Ranjangaon belt, like Fiat-Tata and white goods manufacturers Whirlpool and LG, are believed not to have stepped up outside security in the form of additional guards at plant sites.

Mukesh Malhotra—Weikfield Food Products MD and Mahratta Chamber of Commerce Industries and Agriculture (MCCIA) president—said the industry body has been trying to get in touch with the police but was confident the local cops would be able to cope. The Pimpri Chinchwad area, home to small and medium-sized auto ancillary units, is also concerned about employees who might have to travel to metros.

Apart from hitting India’s credibility as a business destination, the Mumbai attacks will also impact business sentiment and client confidence. Among the sectors to take a hit will be the outsourcing industry.


I want to live: Captured terrorist Azam
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/I_w ... 772298.cms
His swaggering image as he walked around Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus dispensing death was captured by Mumbai Mirror photo editor


Sebastian D' souza, and was the first glimpse of the terrorists who have held Mumbai hostage over the last 48 hours.

Now we can also tell you who this man is and how he has become the vital link for investigating agencies to crack the terror plot.

His name is Azam Amir Kasav, he is 21 years old, speaks fluent English, hails from tehsil Gipalpura in Faridkot in Pakistan, and is the only terrorist from this audacious operation to have been captured alive.

An ATS spokesperson confirmed that the man captured was indeed the one photographed by us.

On the night of Wednesday-Thursday Azam and his colleague opened fire at CST before creating havoc at Metro and then moving on to Girgaum Chowpatty in a stolen Skoda, and where they were intercepted by a team from the Gamdevi police station . Azam shot dead assistant police inspector Tukaram Umbale.

But in that encounter Azam's colleague was killed and he himself was injured in the hand. He pretended to be dead giving rise to the news that two terrorists had been killed. However as the 'bodies' were being taken to Nair Hospital, the accompanying cops figured that one of the men was breathing.
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sum wrote:
Singh, whose party supports the Congress-led Government at the centre, said: "This is not the time to do a post-mortem on the failure of intelligence, which must have been there."
Be thankful he didnt say that the RSS was behind this, all the NSG guys commited suicide inside the Taj and the captured turd is innocent!!!!
he is capable of adding that rest of 200 people died of malaria, but then since when do pimps have honour, they can sell anything -love, dignity, human being, honour
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Raja, of course, they are British of Pakistani descent. And everytime it is repeated, it reinforces the contribution of Pakistanis to terror worldwide and especially emanating from the UK.

My intent was to bring out the British perfidy too who are currently claiming that India doesn't have proof of Pakistani involvement but when truth strikes too close for their own comfort conveniently start referring to British by their descent to distance Britain's contribution to the flourishing of Pakistani terror ever since 1947.
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lakshmikanth wrote:
jahaju wrote:
The terrorist appeared to be burnt / blackened, was he hit by a flame thrower ?
Possibly, the strategy was to corner them, smoke them and keep the pressure using sniper fire, its truly a harsh way to meet their 72 pigs.
By the look of the body he might not have much use of the 72-Vs.
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sum wrote:
Singh, whose party supports the Congress-led Government at the centre, said: "This is not the time to do a post-mortem on the failure of intelligence, which must have been there."
Be thankful he didnt say that the RSS was behind this, all the NSG guys commited suicide inside the Taj and the captured turd is innocent!!!!
Plausible explanation: they might actually have killed him where bodies were strewn around and they wanted to separate his corpse out.. which still doesn't need throwing out of the window though. Throwing into a room would have done.
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Yes,like P.Chidambaram,who has always refused funding for the defence services and their even their pay hike,grossly lower than that of the "redtapists" his favourite tribe.Past time for a complete revamp of the cabinet if MMS is to survive politically.His legacy has now been well and truly written,mirroring that of his life's "love",Dubya Bush.Both now well and truly being considered the worst Pres/PM in their country's history.
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Unconfirmed sources reporting a gag order on the armed forces. Odd, if true. Theyve not said very much throughout this episode, though it is army and navy men who have been fighting the fight.

Could be because of the interviews of Special Action Group cdos shown on TV?

But then the gag order wouldve come thru the MHA instead of MoD, because though thyeyre all armymen, theyre under MHA control in the NSG.

It would have been better for someone to put a gag order on Maharasthra DGP who was making absurd statements from the get-go, and casting aspersions on the coastguard at a time when it was completely unnecessary.

Probably just the result of another scramble for attention, and a careful campaign to make sure that the armed forces do not get too much press.
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Can armchair twits stop second guessing what NSG should have done or could have done ?

Most of you cannot tie your shoe laces in the dark, or direct your pee at the right toilet bowl when the lights go out.
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