Strategic leadership for the future of India

[svinayak]

So in 1977 all these were merged into the Janata Party. This one, won the elections but, broke up due to contradictions and vindictive behavior with Mrs G. Instead of going after her minions, to satisfy their ego, they went after her: Shah Commission etc and made her an angel.

The anti- Indira Gandhi movement started in 1975 and was secretly supported by UK and other western govt to take revenge against her for 1974 POK I test. Janata Party was actually a party of anti- IG groups and nothing more. It was used by the western govt to first time demonize the INC which was the Indian nationalist political party since before the time of independence. This demonization of the nationalist party, nationalist head such as Indira Gandhi paved the way for anti nationalism and suppression of nationalism inside India first time since 1900.

All violence and naxalite violence, maoists, ULFA, Khalistan got external support after this period.
Even though IG got re elected and became an angel the seeds of the anti - nationalism was sowed in this period. That anti- nationalism has survived even today in various forms.

[ramana]

So in 1977 all these were merged into the Janata Party. This one, won the elections but, broke up due to contradictions and vindictive behavior with Mrs G. Instead of going after her minions, to satisfy their ego, they went after her: Shah Commission etc and made her an angel.

The anti- Indira Gandhi movement started in 1975 and was secretly supported by UK and other western govt to take revenge against her for 1974 POK I test. Janata Party was actually a party of anti- IG groups and nothing more. It was used by the western govt to first time demonize the INC which was the Indian nationalist political party since before the time of independence. This demonization of the nationalist party, nationalist head such as Indira Gandhi paved the way for anti nationalism and suppression of nationalism inside India since 1900.

All violence and naxalite violence, maoists, ULFA, Khalistan got external support after this period.

I think you are making same mistake as Mrs G. Yes there was an anti-Indira movement but it wasn't the opposition that fueled it. It was herself by her excesses in the Emergency and her paranoia. When she could win without campaigning, she fixed her election and was found guilty by the Judge. It was her refusal to accept the Judge's verdict that made her impose Emergency. The public willingly would have elacted her for life if she stood for it.

To call the Janata party anti-nationalist is not correct. BTW Mrs G was the nationalist her party, the INC wasnt.

I agree that all those million mutinies were set lose in reaction to her rule. But it was her policies that also fuelled them. When a tack hammer was needed she used a bludgeon. She fuelled the Bindranwala fire in Punjab which consumed her. The LTTE fire she let lose consumed her son. And only yesterday it was quenched with Prabhakaran's death.

Janata Party showed for first time that INC could be dislodged or else India would have become a banana republic like Mexico where the PRI is still in power.

I am the first to defend her but also the first to point out she had her faults which were self inflicted.

[svinayak]

I think you are making same mistake as Mrs G. Yes there was an anti-Indira movement but it wasn't the opposition that fueled it. It was herself by her excesses in the Emergency and her paranoia. When she could win without campaigning, she fixed her election and was found guilty by the Judge. It was her refusal to accept the Judge's verdict that made her impose Emergency. The public willingly would have elacted her for life if she stood for it.

To call the Janata party anti-nationalist is not correct. BTW Mrs G was the nationalist her party, the INC wasnt.

I said Janata Party was a plank for anti-IG. She was responsible for her actions. But the reaction and public tide against her was used in a brilliant way to go against India as a nation state. Indian state became a target of many groups.

Where did I say that Janata party was anti-nationalist

Janata Party showed for first time that INC could be dislodged or else India would have become a banana republic like Mexico where the PRI is still in power.

Janata Party did the right thing but lost control of the anti-IG movement and that was hijacked into a anti-India movement by external groups.

[brihaspati]

The historical sequence leading to formation of the BJP as being discussed, is quite complicated.

We should always keep in mind that external presence and indirect or direct control in the politics of India has been going on solidly from the colonial days, and it has never been absent. MKG and his chosen heir JLN took the path of least resistance to obtain power. My assessment is that MKG's search for power was more impersonal than JLN, but both searched and found "Indian nationalism" as motivating factor that could mobilize popular support for their personal agenda. This least resistance path was a subtle dynamical manipulation of the British, that sought to play off the extremist within the growing nationalist movement against the British, and posed as middle roaders who could bring a mediation and compromise for both sides. With the removal of the last of the "extremists", SCB, we can see a gradual weakening of the negotiating power of MKG.

JLN, cleverly used the communist/socialist boogey, to repeat his mentor's strategy to obtain power for himself - both inside the Congress, as well as outside in the international game involving the British. They dangled hope, or managed to convince the British, that they as the "middle" would look after British interests more than the "extremists" and therefore it was in British interest to not only not treat them harshly as say SCB or Savarkar, but also hand power over to them if they chose to leave. On the other hand they always made the right noises to show that they were really in sympathy with the objective of the "extremists" only that they were ethically constrained in supporting their methods. JLN learnt this strategy well and continued in enjoyment of power post-Independence.

The west's assurance of India's toeing the line remained intact with JLN never investing in military capability. Where things got out of hand was the tricky set of moves that made China invade India. This was a blunder of the West. This broke JLN's passive strategy, and although others were made the whipping boys, JLN's failure as the strategic leader of India was firmly established. This made it impossible for IG to carry on the dynasty without turning "extremist" and overtly nationalistic. This could also be the reason that forced her to seek the comfort of USSR handshakes as an alternative to obtain significant increases in military capabilities. How this interantional scenario and strategic necessity interacted with her domestic radicalization is a different story. But it is not impossible to see, why her realignment would bring her into conflict with the pre-existing alignment that developed under JLN post-Independence and blessed by the British. This would be the main reason behind the conflict and the nature of the tactical posturing and polemics of the Syndicate-Indicate drama.

It was this conflict that matured into the imposition of the emergency. However, in the paranoia that IG must have been thrown into, with perhaps some real basis of suspciion that the various separatist/extremist/leftist opposition that was directed against her had western inputs, it is not difficult to see why she would not take the risk of facing the court normally. She would consider it as another piece in the chess game against her.

The Jana Sangh had remained a target of the dynasty and the regime based around it as placed by the British. This was one group on whom the West would have little trust to be a reliable keeper of its interest. As such it was ensured that Jan Sangh's influence would remain politically insignificant in the parliamentary politics. Jan Sangh joined the conglomerate of the older JLN era west-leaning opposition against IG as a brilliant tactical move to emerge out of isolation. Their calculation, as proved right, was that the conglomerate had been put together to neutralize IG, and would be dismantled as soon as IG was remmoved from the scene. In that broken bazaar, the Jan Sangh could reinvent itself. This they did as the BJP.

This track of evolution of the BJP has to be separated out from the rest of the group that formed the Janata.

[samuel]

I've never been certain who used whom. If they were so eager to continue Brit agenda, did MKG and JLN really have to be masterful to get all that power delegated? All they would have to do is "hang around in the middle," and let SCB and others grow.

And if they really did masterfully manipulate, would they really have been so eager or get so totally stumped after?

The reality probably is that they got played whilst thinking they were doing the playing.

What really was this dynamic?

S

[brihaspati]

Samuelji,
I was writing from the viewpoint of the "Indian" participants. Of course each side thinks it has managed to use the other. Both ar partially correct and partially wrong.

[samuel]

But the result is we had partition, millions died, we have yet to extricate ourselves out of the great game, the chinese coopted the buffer and now we have a necklace.

I mean, were these guys really not that bright? They did not realize the national security implications early on even asthey were into "azadi"?

I honestly don't know what MKG and JLN envisioned as India's "destiny" once the Brits left or was it all "tryst." Where can get insights of their perception of the neighborhood and the actors playing in it?

S

[brihaspati]

My realization is that they never envisioned the "non-Hindu" as part of the national vision, honestly and from the core of their heart. If they had, they would not have been so eager to get rid of them, or at least the more politically motivated among the "non-Hindu". The non-Hindu was for them always the "other", never part of "us". They were prepared to militarily grab what they felt were needed to consolidate their own power holding - so the action in Kashmir or Hyderabad. But such actions could not be entertained against Pakistan itself. Think of how "partition over my dead body" rhetoric by MKG sort of evaporated into "mouna brata".

[ShauryaT]

That was called the Swatantra Party and failed miserably for there is no base for such a party except with the ex-Maharajas and some industrialists. They used to have a block of 50-60 MPS. However to be fair to them themade good speeches with histronics. The 1972 Indira wave wiped them out. This is what led to her sweeping changes.

Along with bank, industry nationalization, abolition of privy purses and changing of electoral laws to stop funding of political parties by business. These combined actions broke the back bone of the Swatantra party.

[Airavat]

But the result is we had partition, millions died, we have yet to extricate ourselves out of the great game, the chinese coopted the buffer and now we have a necklace. I mean, were these guys really not that bright? They did not realize the national security implications early on even as they were into "azadi"?

Ultimately they were idealists, with a grand vision for the future in which they would like India to take its rightful place. Unfortunately like many idealists, they displayed a total disconnect with reality. Among the first acts of the Interim Government of 1946 was the holding of the Asia Relations Conference by JLN which he self-described as, "An amazing success." Spending time, money, and resources on this conference, even as India was then in the grip of the Muslim League's communal terrorism and British connivance in that terror, showed an astonishing lack of realism. And nothing concrete actually emerged from the conference.....the Asian Relations Organization opened with such great fanfare fell in the dustbin of history.

That same year the Interim Government sent a delegation to the United Nations under Nehru's sister, who vigorously raised the issue of Apartheid in South Africa, which antagonized that country and its ally Britain who wanted it to be considered South Africa's internal matter. Again right for an idealist to raise this issue, but with India's future as a united independent country then under threat from the Muslim League's communal terrorism, and British machinations, was this the time to raise this issue?

India yet had to stand on its feet, take control over its army (which was then posted far and wide in the Middle-East, SE Asia, Japan, etc.), and tackle the problem the princely states and fight communal terror. Despite all this the idealists had their way in most issues and the one pragmatic leader, Sardar Patel, had to fight hard to integrate the states, take military action in Junagadh and Hyderabad, and support Maharaja Hari Singh in J&K.

I honestly don't know what MKG and JLN envisioned as India's "destiny" once the Brits left or was it all "tryst." Where can get insights of their perception of the neighborhood and the actors playing in it?

The Congress Working Committee deliberations and resolutions on issues like the Japanese advance towards India, relations with the US, arms and food imports etc. should be read to understand their perception. Start with CWC resolutions

[vsudhir]

Wow. Haven't been following this thread but very interesting, thoughtful and pertinent discussions onlee. My thanks to all participants.

[svinayak]

The Jana Sangh had remained a target of the dynasty and the regime based around it as placed by the British. This was one group on whom the West would have little trust to be a reliable keeper of its interest. As such it was ensured that Jan Sangh's influence would remain politically insignificant in the parliamentary politics. Jan Sangh joined the conglomerate of the older JLN era west-leaning opposition against IG as a brilliant tactical move to emerge out of isolation. Their calculation, as proved right, was that the conglomerate had been put together to neutralize IG, and would be dismantled as soon as IG was remmoved from the scene. In that broken bazaar, the Jan Sangh could reinvent itself. This they did as the BJP.

This track of evolution of the BJP has to be separated out from the rest of the group that formed the Janata.

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Jana Sangh and its predecessor Hindu Mahasabha was a target of the British in the colonial days since 1900 as this one group had the grand vision of Akhand Bharat which included Burma, Tibet and the entire sub-continent.

All the British plans of separating the region started with 1905(Bengal), 1937(Burma), 1947(Punjab), 1948(Sri Lanka), Tibet(1950). British knew that only a non-nationalist govt would have allowed this kind of separation.

[svinayak]

I've never been certain who used whom. If they were so eager to continue Brit agenda, did MKG and JLN really have to be masterful to get all that power delegated? All they would have to do is "hang around in the middle," and let SCB and others grow.

And if they really did masterfully manipulate, would they really have been so eager or get so totally stumped after?

The reality probably is that they got played whilst thinking they were doing the playing.

What really was this dynamic?

S

Always the imperial powers have the upper hand. MKG and JLN were outwitted.

[Sanjay M]

So in 1977 all these were merged into the Janata Party. This one, won the elections but, broke up due to contradictions and vindictive behavior with Mrs G. Instead of going after her minions, to satisfy their ego, they went after her: Shah Commission etc and made her an angel.

The anti- Indira Gandhi movement started in 1975 and was secretly supported by UK and other western govt to take revenge against her for 1974 POK I test. Janata Party was actually a party of anti- IG groups and nothing more. It was used by the western govt to first time demonize the INC which was the Indian nationalist political party since before the time of independence. This demonization of the nationalist party, nationalist head such as Indira Gandhi paved the way for anti nationalism and suppression of nationalism inside India first time since 1900.

All violence and naxalite violence, maoists, ULFA, Khalistan got external support after this period.
Even though IG got re elected and became an angel the seeds of the anti - nationalism was sowed in this period. That anti- nationalism has survived even today in various forms.

But much water has passed under the bridge since Indira's patriotism was questioned. Nowadays, the patriotism of her watered-down descendents, especially the Italian Rani, are indeed worth questioning. Indira Gandhi would have never, ever allowed Kashmir to catch fire - nor, I suspect, would Rajiv Gandhi. The fact that their descendants have, says much about them. These people no longer even maintain a pretense of ties to Kashmir. Therefore given their political stances, their patriotism is a salient issue.

Parties/candidates have to campaign on reality. They have to campaign on issues that are actually relevant, and not merely on what's perceived to be relevant. Sure, perceptions may lag behind reality. Complacent people don't notice national security until a Mumbai happens, for example. Then they realize that national security threats exist.

Congress deals with manufacturing perceptions, but reality has a way of bursting such mirages and intruding into them.

India's security situation is far different today than it was during the 1977 period. Sooner or later, even the terrorists will recognize the value of attacking during the runup to elections. The Naxalites already do, and it's only a matter of time before AlQaeda, Lashkar, etc follow by capitalizing on it in a big way.

[brihaspati]

Perhaps, the Congress is not complacent about security. It has more reason to be vigilant because it knows that it is one issue that can upset its apple cart. However, what is more disturbing is the pattern by which the regime, the rashtryia machinery, and the closely connected and interdependent media collaborate to reduce the impact of security threats and incidences. There are at least three possible sources for such behaviour, and all of which portent ill.

(1) The same type of blackmail/entrapment that is used to control and keep loyalties of political leadership within parties, are used by international powers on the Congress dynasty and courtiers, to prevent them from taking retaliatory measures that can upset in turn the bigger games being played by international powers which necessitate allowing some liberties to their own "running dogs"

(2) Congress's dangerous attitudes towards relying more on external military hardware, rather than an intense drive and detrmination to be self sufficient or even surpass so-called established military "superpowers"

(3) Congress's essential distrust of its own major constituency, the "Hindu" majority, which makes it impose and maintain an ideological vacuum towards undermining any alternative independent leadership based on the "Hindu", and using and maintaining other communities as distinct entities to balance the "Hindu" as and when necessary. This also makes it rely on external powers as additional balancing force, and perhaps the uncertainty fuels shifting of resources and capital out of India to serve as backups in case the regime "falls".

[Keshav]

(1) The same type of blackmail/entrapment that is used to control and keep loyalties of political leadership within parties, are used by international powers on the Congress dynasty and courtiers, to prevent them from taking retaliatory measures that can upset in turn the bigger games being played by international powers which necessitate allowing some liberties to their own "running dogs"

This makes more sense than all the rest. The USA certainly does keep snipers posted outside 10 Janpath ready to take out Sonia Gandhi when the order comes.

(2) Congress's dangerous attitudes towards relying more on external military hardware, rather than an intense drive and detrmination to be self sufficient or even surpass so-called established military "superpowers"

Reverse engineering or even innovative engineering is not cheap and India has a whole host of problems to deal with. This is the disconnect that lost BJP the election - the average person doesn't care for the "nation", he wants to feed his family! Just because BRF is a national forum doesn't mean everyone else thinks that way. Maybe people on this forum are having an existential breakdown about how the average person isn't so concerned about the same issues.

There's a reason tackling terrorism wasn't even a plank for Congress.

(3) Congress's essential distrust of its own major constituency, the "Hindu" majority, which makes it impose and maintain an ideological vacuum towards undermining any alternative independent leadership based on the "Hindu", and using and maintaining other communities as distinct entities to balance the "Hindu" as and when necessary. This also makes it rely on external powers as additional balancing force, and perhaps the uncertainty fuels shifting of resources and capital out of India to serve as backups in case the regime "falls".

Hindus themselves don't consider "Hindu" to be a community or a vote bank. Why should Congress?

[ramana]

I dont understand why every thread has to become a discussion of Hindus and Hinduism. If it continues will have to lock this one and archieve it.

[shiv]

I dont understand why every thread has to become a discussion of Hindus and Hinduism. If it continues will have to lock this one and archieve it.

There is one solution which I will try and implement if I feel inspired tomorrow morning

[ramana]

What ever you do no pisko games on members.

[Sanku]

Oi no discussion on Hinduism what will we discuss otherwise!!
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Jokes apart Ramana Sir, the fact each becomes one like this IS very telling is it not? And I mean it sincerely.

[brihaspati]

Keshav wrote
This makes more sense than all the rest. The USA certainly does keep snipers posted outside 10 Janpath ready to take out Sonia Gandhi when the order comes.

Meant in seriousness? I had meant, that there could be "weaknesses" that have been created or utilized by the western powers to have leverage in the dynasty.

Reverse engineering or even innovative engineering is not cheap and India has a whole host of problems to deal with. This is the disconnect that lost BJP the election - the average person doesn't care for the "nation", he wants to feed his family! Just because BRF is a national forum doesn't mean everyone else thinks that way. Maybe people on this forum are having an existential breakdown about how the average person isn't so concerned about the same issues.
There's a reason tackling terrorism wasn't even a plank for Congress.

Agreed. But such an attitude creates also creates direct and indirect economic problems, if it is economics you mean more relevant as. There has been discussion on conditionalities attached to externally sourced military hardware, that are costly in both economic and capability terms. Its not as if other pressing issues are stopping such deals from going forward. And hopefully, Congress has taken all the right steps to "feed the" common person's family.

Hindus themselves don't consider "Hindu" to be a community or a vote bank. Why should Congress?

Let us say that they have mutually helped create such a perception. By the way, should we drop the proportion of Hindus who voted for the BJP or Shiv Sena? It creates a problem if we retain them in consideration. It shows there are "Hindus" who do not consider themselves as "Hindus" because they consider themselves as "Hindus" in voting for supposedly "Hindu" parties.

No seriously, a request to all, please connect postings to leadership.

[brihaspati]

One thought that worries me from what I wrote on the elections thread, is that, while we gloat over the fall of the "Left", we must remember, that almost everywhere Islam is present in sufficient strength, fall of the "Left" almost certainly seems to lead to a filling up or strengthening of the Muslim political/military power. This happened in the middle east, and Indonesia.

In India, both states so far dominated by Left with traditional non-ignorable presence of the Left, WB and Kerala, run this risk. Both Cong and TMC have reasons to cultivate and give more to the Muslim in WB. But will that be integrative or more disruptive in the way such "giving" will take place?

A large section of the "goon" proportion of the cadre is also likely to switch allegiance to the TMC. The twist will be if Cong plans to first liquidate teh Left, and then liquidate the TMC. I am not sure that parts of the Cong are not going to partly help a smaller and much reduced Left to survive as a means of leverage on the TMC. The Congress base is still very weak, and most of those who have passed through the pre-77 Cong dance will be reluctant to see Congress immediately in absolute power. After the parliamemtary Left, the question of the Maoists will also come up. Will TMC use them to reduce the parliamentray Left or provide the muscle to keep Congress in check or allow them to be liquidated by the federal power?

I have a feeling that the twists and turns of the TMC leader is not finished yet.

[ShyamSP]

One thought that worries me from what I wrote on the elections thread, is that, while we gloat over the fall of the "Left", we must remember, that almost everywhere Islam is present in sufficient strength, fall of the "Left" almost certainly seems to lead to a filling up or strengthening of the Muslim political/military power. This happened in the middle east, and Indonesia.

In India, both states so far dominated by Left with traditional non-ignorable presence of the Left, WB and Kerala, run this risk. Both Cong and TMC have reasons to cultivate and give more to the Muslim in WB. But will that be integrative or more disruptive in the way such "giving" will take place?

A large section of the "goon" proportion of the cadre is also likely to switch allegiance to the TMC. The twist will be if Cong plans to first liquidate teh Left, and then liquidate the TMC. I am not sure that parts of the Cong are not going to partly help a smaller and much reduced Left to survive as a means of leverage on the TMC. The Congress base is still very weak, and most of those who have passed through the pre-77 Cong dance will be reluctant to see Congress immediately in absolute power. After the parliamemtary Left, the question of the Maoists will also come up. Will TMC use them to reduce the parliamentray Left or provide the muscle to keep Congress in check or allow them to be liquidated by the federal power?

I have a feeling that the twists and turns of the TMC leader is not finished yet.

Indian Leftism was loser Hindus response to aggressive Muslims. When traditional Hindu methods or modern Congress influence could not help cope with the Muslims, Leftism gave enough courage and ideological superiority when needed. I'm saying this from political movements in AP. Bengal experience could be similar.

[brihaspati]

Yes there is a certain line of academic research into this angle. Especially, about the foundation from ex-insurrectionists in Bengal. However, that angle does not work in Kerala, or Andhra Pradesh, (especially the Telengana communists - who were the seeds of the later CPI(M) in a ceratin sense, right from the 1948 uprising, all through Ranadive Thesis, and provided the excuse in parallel with the Nizam's goons for Patel to intervene) which were definitely seeded by activists from outside.

But more relevant for the future, will be trying to see to it that the space left by the "Left" is not filled up by theologian's influence. Especially in WB, BJP's presence is not strong. The young activists I knew, were not up to the calibre of the TMC or DYFI/SFI. Some of them had quite crude theoretical and polemical arsenal - not enough to cut ice with the "intellectual" posturing of the middle and upper middle class youth. Especially, the universities and colleges need to be penetrated, if any influence for the future is to be ensured. The web can perhaps reach out a bit now, if planned.

The influence of the left in the 77 elections and subsequently, came from a solid 30 year generational work of students and activists starting from 1948. The students and youth of today are instrumental in carrying the seeds of future social changes across the country. And especially in WB or Kerala, high exposure to formal education makes it imperative to have a presence among students and young adults, and therefore the educational institutions.

[ramana]

For reference

A collection of Kautilya's Maxims

and
Kautilya's Arthasastra on War and Diplomacy in Ancient India


Amazon Book link The First Great Political Realist: Kautilya and His Arthashastra

The First Great Political Realist is a succinct and penetrating analysis of one of the ancient world's foremost political realists, Kautilya. Kautilya's treatise Arthashastra stands as one of the great political books of the ancient world, its ideas on the science of politics strikingly similar to those of Thucydides, Machiavelli, Hobbes, Clausewitz, and even Sun Tsu. Roger Boesche's excellent commentary on Kautilya's voluminous text draws out the essential realist arguments for modern political analysis and demonstrates the continued relevance of Kautilya's work to modern Indian strategic thinking and our understanding of the relationship between politics and economics.

and

Online version of Arthasasthra @ U Penn

[satya]

By absence of Left in intellectual circles or atleast some shrinkage owing to dwindling fortunes of Left in WB , where do u think the existing leftist intellectuals will go ? We can't presume they will simply cease to exist , yes there may be lesser number of these in public forums but they will be there , haven't this been the case under IG regime where they either joined Congress or become mentors/advisors to opposition in the country.
Isn't this a very likely scenario where either they will repackage themselves for various political parties or/and in certain circumstances might mend ways to find some sort of common ground with right ?

[brihaspati]

The fact that one part began to side over to Nehru and IG, points to the possibility that they may not actually go over to the "right" but to a centrist position. In fact even within the current stream, there is always a centrist position. Within the WB party, it is represented by JB and S(u)C (there were overlaps with his more cautious contemporary S(y)C etc.).

But over the years, there has been a steady decline in the level of the intellectuals affiliated to the major parliamentary group, the CPI(M). I do not think they have the same levels of competence, of say, Hiren Mukherjee, or EMSN, or even people like Arun Bose in the current crop. Most of the more able left with the CPI and are now removed from the scene due to natural causes. The CPI(M) is more Stalinist in nature (although it separated on a Maoist position), and has a built in distrust of the "intellectual". So we do not have a lot of "leftist" brilliants associated with the M-group. Those who appear to be "Left" and are supposedly prominent, are actually more independent academics who have chosen (or have been chosen) to be "Marxists" in their approach, and are commonly pehaps in "harmony" with the CPI and Congress. Such groups exist even in UK academics, where no "Marxist" party exists in any significant way (except some Trotskyst groups - who fill a similar position in Stalinist viewpoint as of Ahmedyia/Ishmaelite "heresy" in Islam).

No, the majority of surviving Leftist intellectuals will divide up between the Congress, and the Naxalites. Yes the centre-right, lets say currently BJP, may get a few.

[aryank]

Govt gearing up to gag news websites [Off-Topic]

Barely four months after dropping its proposal of forcing TV channels to show only an "authorized" feed during security emergencies,

the government is now seeking to censor news portals and other websites, that too even at normal times.

The controversial draft rules released this month empower a designated Central government officer to block public access to any information on the Net for wide-ranging reasons of security and national interest.

One glaring infirmity in the draft rules prepared by the department of information technology is that they make no stipulation for a prior hearing to the affected website. This is despite the fact that the web host who does not comply with the direction to remove the offending information is liable to be punished with imprisonment up to seven years.

While the abortive attempt to gag TV channels had been made through a draft notification amending the cable television network rules, the sweeping power to control the content on websites is being fleshed out in the rules drafted under the recent amendments to the information technology (IT) Act.

Though it was passed by Parliament in December and the Presidential assent to it came in February, the IT amendment Act 2008 will not come into effect till the various rules drafted under its provisions, including the one on blocking public access to websites, are finalized.

Under the draft rules framed under section 69A of the IT amendment Act, every state or Central government department will be empowered to decide whether a certain news item, article, blog or advertisement relating to its jurisdiction is safe to remain on the Net.

Once somebody sends a "complaint" against any information displayed on the Net, the department concerned will take a call on whether the matter in question affects any of the six concerns mentioned in section 69A: interest of sovereignty or integrity of India, defence of India, security of the state, friendly relations with foreign states, public order or incitement to commit any cognizable offence relating to the other five reasons.

If it is satisfied about the need to pull the challenged information out of the public domain, the department concerned will send a "request" in the prescribed form to the "designated officer" at the Centre chosen by the secretary of the IT department. An inter-ministerial committee headed by the designated officer will recommend whether the request to censor the web site should be accepted or not.

If the IT secretary approves the committee's recommendation to take action, the designated officer will direct the intermediary or web host to block the offending information within the stipulated time. In the event of non-compliance, the designated officer can initiate criminal proceedings under section 69A, which imposes a maximum sentence of seven years on the web host.

The only remedy provided by the draft rules to media organizations is that a review committee will meet every two months to check whether the directions to block information have been issued in accordance with the IT Act. Though they empower the review committee to order the "unblocking" of the information concerned, the draft rules are strangely silent on whether the affected website would be allowed to appeal before it and give its defence.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Govt ... 562292.cms

[aryank]

How America influenced the big election victory for the Congress Party in India – Is Indian democracy a slave under the influence of CIA?

There was no way Bush Administration could let India’s ruling party go out of business. India has a new name today, although very disgraceful but real. It is called a satellite nation of America just like Australia, Japan, UK, Mexico and many other central and South American countries.

So what really happened? We know congress party bought the parliamentary seats for millions of American dollars. We also know how related politicians bribed former US President Bill Clinton in the name of his “Foundation.”

It was a top priority for CIA to make sure ruling PM Manmohan Singh stays in power. India is a strategic nation to the so-called American Empire. There are indications that the new Obama Administration was initially perplexed at what Bush did to influence the Indian democratic system. But by the time Obama came to power, Bush had already launched the covert war against Indian democracy.

Very systematically money was made available to very specific areas where the communists were popular before. Take for example West Bengal. People reported enormous amount of cash resources with Congress cadres in the rural areas. The sentiment was still tilted towards the communists except in Kolkata and certain specific rural districts.

But the amount of resources made available to Trinamul Congress and the Congress party itself was so enormous that people could feel it. In India, money talks during election. People are mostly uneducated. The political parties bring them in trucks and other vehicles, promise all goodies, and ask them to vote. The local communities have local leaders. People in villages follow this local leadership like God. These local leaders are bought and sold with money.

Where did the money come from? Indian industrialists knew that people in India wanted a change. They were divided 40% for ruling UPA coalition and 60% for BJP led NDA coalition. They did not provide the overwhelming money to Congress party. Then who gave? Who provided in excess of 50000 crores of rupees to bring a win for the Congress party in such a land slide manner? It was done in a two prong way. First, Congress party spent heavily and in pin pointed fashion to topple certain electoral seats. But CIA performed the other side. Why did Advani deliberately lead BJP to disaster? The answer lies in how the BJP Members of the Parliaments were bought in open market by some unknown characters to win the nuke deal with America. The BJP infrastructure from the top to the bottom was bought out to lose the election. Common people in India are stunned for the first time. They know they did not want Sonia Gandhi and company. They just could not find any alternative.

One way to influence and make political party win is to spend and buy out the other side. That can result in total landslide victory.

Most of Indian politicians run in elections to win and then make some money trading their influences. Money is the motive after all. If these politicians are told, you can have the money and do something else, what do you expect?

BJP was bought out. Small opposition parties were told to sit tight in exchange of big bucks. People just could not find a viable opposition party to vote for. Indian democracy was bribed. Indian Parliament is now a slave of foreign power. The opposition parties other than the communists are dormant. Even the communists are in total shock.

History may have repeated. India lost its independence again. Two hundred and fifty years back East India Company snatched Indian sovereignty in the Battle of Palasey. Mirjafar, the chief military commander of the Nawab of Bengal, Siraj-Ud-Dullah, was bribed by the British to lose a battle deliberately. Mirjafar, an Arab by birth, he rose to power in the Nawab's army and in the battle of Plassey (1756) he conspired with the British to depose Siraj-Ud-Dullah to become the Nawab himself. Mir had secretly made a pact with British to overthrow Siraj in lieu of the promise that he would make the Nawab of Bengal.

The British force under Robert Clive marched to Murshidabad and met Siraj in the Battle of Plassey in 1757. Mir's army betrayed Siraj by not fighting for him and Siraj was defeated and killed. Mir was crowned as the new Nawab of Bihar, Orissa and Bengal.

Sonia Gandhi, an Italian may be the new Mirjafar. History may have repeated again.

The biggest question is: we know what happened to India in years after the battle of Palasey. What will happen to India now and in the next twenty years?

[brihaspati]

web gag - A serious bit of legislation. The Congress has identified one loophole in the overall propaganda/brainwashing machinery of education that can bypass the routes of official filtering and control. So after newspapers, journals, TV, it will be the "net" that must serve Congress interests. How does young India respond to this extension of their freedoms and one of the ways they could bypass the stranglehold of the "old order" on political expression?

[brihaspati]

aryankji,
Money has always been a factor. There is also no reason to look for sources outside, although that could have been a possibility. However that money would be passed through indirect channels to the Congress election HQ. But such huge transfers of money from foreign sources would leave trails on which even same-side (UK/EU) can snoop. This means at some point US dollars would have to be converted to Indian Rupee or CIA has to utilize funds held in rupee accounts or cash. So ultimately some Indian cash reserve is needed. But as discussed in other threads, there appears to be gaps found by CAG in GOI expenditure which itself could have sourced a lot of cash for th purpose.

Case studies of such transactions can be undertaken on constituency basis. My sources say, both money as well as pure political factors and calculations have motivated voters. I know of areas where, in the past, Congress money was taken but the vote was given to the Left candidate. But of approximately 10 seats I have got reports about, almost all had conscious and determined voting against the Left candidate, with money not being a deterministic factor. These are hard things to estimate, and not being on spot, I cannot dispute or support the "money" hypothesis.

In the elections thread, before WB polls, I had written about the "subversive" nature of the Bengali voter, and explicitly written that if they found a reliable federal alignment that could indicate protection from CPI(M) retaliation, they would vote in opposition to the Left in the state. Previously, the Congress connections to the Left, and both Congres and Left's efforts to destroy MB, made the people shaky. The relationship with the NDA was too brief to gain voter confidence, and the genrational factors were also weaker.

[brihaspati]

Another interesting feature emerging out of the elections is that, the regional allies are fretting and getting miffed about apparent Congress non-chalance. This is a significant twist for the future. On the one hand this can lead to a lot of regional interests, directly trying to enter their regional units of the Congress to work from inside to preserve their regional interests, and on the other hand to seek an alternative "national" party on which they can also simultaneously hedge their bets.

The first strtaegy is unlikely to work. For the very natiure of the Congress organization has become a core commitment to the North Gangetic Plain political centre of gravity. So the original reason as to how the peripheral regions fell away from Congress because they felt, rightly or wrongly, that Congress was basically obsessed about UP and that this upper stretch of the "Hindi" belt was its priority with resources being extracted from the periphery for the benefit of the "centre" (a standard complaint by the WB Left), can very well reappear. This in turn can frustrate the regional interests within the Congress.

So the second option remains a viable stratgey for the regional powers. But then what about that viable "national alternative"?

[Pranav]

How America influenced the big election victory for the Congress Party in India – Is Indian democracy a slave under the influence of CIA?
....
History may have repeated again.

Yes, eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, and as Andrew S. Grove, the founder of Intel, says, "Only the paranoid survive". In that spirit, it would certainly be desirable to make paper trails mandatory in all future elections.

But still, there is not too much hard, verifiable data in that article.

[ramana]

Brishaspatiji, I think we are forgetting that India has emerged from a double colonization of about a 800 hundred years where the Indic thought process was suppressed. So we are likely to see nuanced dhimmi responses. If you look back in history the Indic spirit reasserted itself afte ~ 1000 years of double whammy from Buddhist influences. it took that long to change the tide and during the recovery period that the first colonization started.

I request you to read this book at liesure and tell me if there is any sparks.

Some Contributions of South India to Indian History

Please at a minimum read the Chapter one about the part of Bhakti. I think you will get my drift.

[samuel]

The congress appears to have sufficient momentum to "divide and conquer" the "regional party unification plan - 4th front" All it has to do is keep a revolving door; bring key elements of this group into its fold and swap them for others ready for a rotation.

If the BJP can reach out and actually absorb some of these elements into its fold, in due course, and go to "grass roots" where congress and allies have "cleared out" the commies and others, there may be a way to give congress a taste of its own medicine. But to do that the BJP must spawn entities that tack left of it.

S

[brihaspati]

ramanaji,
thanks for the link. I came across this book a long long time ago. But my background knowledge was "different" then. I will relish reading it now! I will let you know of what I feel.

Yes I agree about the double whammy. My worry is that the "core" ideological foundation is simply being jealously guarded, but not disseminated. It is a continuous struggle in the face of carefully imposed and maintained "ideological vacuum". But self-censorship in various forms is restricting the awareness for this struggle. This censorship takes many forms, one being deliberate disjunction of "politics" from the "core ideology". What is disturbing but not unexpected for me, is that such censorship is actually politics driven, and rises and falls according to perceptions of what is happening in realpolitic. Which means that "core" still does not have that determined leadership at its head, or has allowed itself to be penetrated by the "dhimmified".

Congress, on the other hand does its acts of "ideological cleansing" aggressively. This reminds me of Stalin's style of functioning. Basically he had no commitments to any theoretical position within Marxism, and swung every three years or so in completely different directions. Some will say, that he did "great" things for Russia, but others will say, he practically postponed its progress and brought untold hardships on its people - even the most ardent supporters of Bolshevism. Stalin and the forces supporting him, won in every round within the inner party struggles (in Russia the party was the state+parliament+general elections) becuase their opponents essential held back, restrained themselves, and censored themselves at a time when they could still have checked and finished Stalin off.

[ramana]

To understand Russia read Fedor Dostevsky and all his works. The Russian elite let in Communism, Russified it and used it to brutally bring Russia out of feudal age. After that was done they discarded it. What took the West five centuries from Reformation was done in 70 years. Mao's China is trying to beat that record. Congress is doing the same but with legal thuggery but can't due to BJP and right reaction.Eg. See the new limits on media. That is the big picture.

[Rahul Mehta]

How America influenced the big election victory for the Congress Party in India – Is Indian democracy a slave under the influence of CIA?
....
History may have repeated again.

Yes, eternal vigilance is the price of freedom, and as Andrew S. Grove, the founder of Intel says, "Only the paranoid survive". In that spirit, it would certainly be desirable to make paper trails mandatory in all future elections.

But still, there is not too much hard, verifiable data in that article.

So what solutions do you all propose?

.

[ramana]

Rahul Mehtaji, Need to ensure wide spread prosperity and self awareness of India. This ensures they dont need extra money from outside and have self pride in themselves. Rajiv Gandhi's corruption in Bofors was to get rid of the Indian business man funding the INC. So he tried to skim the GOI money, for thats what it means as Bofors will pass the costs back to the purchaser ,and parked this in Swiss banks. Fromhere the rot started. If you saw the tele-serial Chanakya thats what Dhananda does and unleashes forces beyond his control.

The AIT reduced the self-pride and makes them think of themselves as conquered people. New genetic evidence is showing that the whole world is populated from out of India and language developed here and spread out.

[aryank]

BJP: 10 year plan for Rejuvenation

I had a heartbreaking weekend, the second such time in 5 years - the last time was in May 2004 when the BJP got a shock defeat in the general elections. That time the feelings were of shock, disbelief and anger. This time it is more of disappointment and heartbreak. At the outset let me confess that I have been a BJP supporter since I can remember. My initiation began in the early 90's, during the Ram Janmabhoomi movement. I had just entered my teens and vividly remember a feeling of thrill and excitement on my initiation to political awareness. I have since grown into adulthood being a passionate BJP supporter. So that explains the heartbreak. As the disappointment of the May 16 results sink in, a myriad stream of thoughts are racing through my mind. And out of this churning came a plan for the reinvention and rejuvenation of the BJP.

The fundamental problem with BJP is that they don't have a credible presence in about 160 seats out of 543 seats of Lok Sabha. If you draw a line on India's map starting from Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh and up to Weat Bengal, BJP is at best a fringe player. And in the two states of Orissa and UP where the BJP was a credible player they have dangerously lost ground. If you add up all these seats it comes upto a whopping 245 seats which is 45% of the Lok Sabha. BJP cannot hope to come to power at the center with a presence in just 55% of India. The party had a meteoric rise in the 90's under the twin leadership of Vajpayee & Advani and reached a peak of 180 seats in 1999. But after that it just hit a plateau. BJP became complacent and "outsourced" several key states to regional parties.

2009 marks the beginning of the end of coalition era in Indian politics. The dynasty is back with a bang in the Congress and they are taking back the space they vacated in the 90's. My reading is that for another 10 years it is going to be a Congress rule in Delhi. Unless the dynasty self destructs(like a Bofors scam), in the next Lok Sabha elections in 5 years the Congress will get a majority on it's own. If the BJP has to evolve as a credible alternative to the Congress, they will have to sincerely work to expand the party's presence in 45% of the country I mentioned. They have to get out of the NDA mode, the era of coalitions is over. BJP needs a new set of Vajpayee & Advani kind of leadership who will selflessly work to take the party to the next level. If they dont, the big loser will be the country. Congress and the dynasty will lord over India and we'll see the return of the arrogant Congress of 70's and 80's. Just as one big super power with no checks & balances is a bad thing for the world, so it will be for Indian polity.

So here is my action plan for the BJP. The BJP will have to take the bottom up approach to New Delhi, which is to have strong leaders and presence in the states which will automatically add up to a strong claim to the Delhi throne. Today the BJP has a Narendra Modi, a Shivraj Chouhan, a Raman Singh, a Yedyurappa. The party needs 25 such names in every state of India. So for the next 5 years the state wise plan should be as follows:

1. Maharashtra - MNS is seriously hurting the BJP-Sena. Put all effort possible to bring about a rapprochement between the warring Thackeray cousins. If the party can pull off a BJP-Sena-MNS alliance for the October assembly elections they will pocket Maharashtra.

2. Haryana - Dump the Chautalas, they are a discredited party. Go it alone for the assembly elections(or tie up with a credible local party as a junior partner). The target should be to at least be a strong opposition party in the assembly and not give the Congress a walkover.

3. Bihar - Nitish is going to dump the BJP and do a Naveen Patnaick. The question is not if but when he will do it. So prepare for it and don't be caught napping like in Orissa. Aggressively retain BJP's turf and support, and in the next assembly elections when Nitish comes back to power(either on his own or with Congress support) the target should be to be the main opposition party and not cede the opposition space to Lalu.

4. Assam - There is good chance that the BJP-AGP combine can come to power in the next assembly elections. Work towards making the alliance work on the ground.

5. Kerala & Bengal - The communists are a discredit force in both these states. There is a golden opportunity to make both these states a tri-polar polity. The BJP has reasonable cadre base in both states. Work aggressively to expand the party base and groom a young leadership. Convince the people that the BJP can be a viable replacement for the communists in both the states. When the red forts crumble the BJP has to grab significant pieces of the cookie and not let Congress take it all.

6. Orissa - Naveen Patnaik is too popular to take on now. Bide your time and wait for him to slip or for anti-incumbency to set in. Meanwhile work to occupy Congress's space as the main opposition. Work towards making Orissa a tri-polar polity. When the next elections take place BJP should be in a position to win atleast 5 Lok Sabha seats on it's own.

7. Andhra Pradesh - Work to occupy the spaces of TRS and PRP, both these parties don't have credibility post elections. The BJP as a national party will have more credibility compared to these 2 parties. In the coastal region target the Kapu community for strength. Just as the BJP monopolized the Lingayath community in Karnataka they should go all out to woo the Kapu caste. Atleast get to a strength where for the next elections TDP will consider BJP as an equal partner to take on the Congress.

8. Tamil Nadu - A big opportunity will be opening up soon in TN with the inevitable fading of the grand old man Karunanidhi. There will be a bitter family war for succession. This will be a good opportunity to wean away a significant chunk of the DMK base. Smaller parties like the PMK & MDMK have been discredited. Try to co opt players like Vijaykanth into the BJP. Maybe even net Rajnikanth into BJP. The failure of Chiranjeevi in AP proves that filmstars on their own cannot win electoral success, but if they are part of a national party like the BJP they will have more credibility besides the resources of a national party. So strategy will be the same as in AP, build credible strength so that by the next elections Jayalalitha will consider BJP as an equal partner to take on the DMK-Congress alliance.

9. UP - This state is too big and complicated for any one person to tackle. BJP should make the bifurcation or trifurcation of UP as a big plank. Accordingly assign 2 or 3 leaders to specific geographical areas. The old leadership of the Ram Janmabhoomi movement era are past their due date. I would say, pick up Varun Gandhi for the western portion of UP and Yogi Adityanath for the poorvanchal portion. Both are young faces, have hindutva credentials and are charismatic. Short term target should be to emerge as the no. 2 in UP. Congress is for sure going to win the next assembly elections. Don't let Mayawati or Mulayam retain relevancy in UP, people are tired of them and they should be pushed to extinction.

10. Punjab, Karnataka, Chattishgarh, Jharkand, MP, Gujarat, Rajasthan, Delhi, HP, Uttaranchal - These states are already bipolar states between Congress & BJP. And BJP is doing well in many of these states. There may be anti-incumbency swings every 5 years which is normal. Concentrate on avoiding internal sabotage in these states. That should be relatively easy.

This states-first, bottom-up approach is the only way for the BJP. They don't have a dynasty like the Congress which can deliver power. It's a long walk, but BJP must remember how long a battle Vajpayee & Advani had to wage to finally taste power in 1998. It took them almost 50 years to build the BJP from scratch. Compared to that this will be a far shorter walk. I'm sure that if the BJP works on this plan they will be in a position to form their own govt with majority in Delhi in 10 years.

Tail piece
This is regarding the BJP approach to minorities(Muslims & Christians). I feel it is time for the BJP to offer a New Deal to the minorities of India which is distinct from the vote-bank approach of Congress and other "secular" parties. This should be a honest and positive agenda.

Agenda for the Muslims
1. Ram temple - Open up a honest, sincere and sustained dialouge with the muslim community for a negotiated settlement of the issue. Merely mentioning it the BJP manifesto every 5 years is not sufficient. The BJP can facilitate meetings between sober Hindu leaders (like Sri Ravishankar, Swami Agnivesh etc.) and sober elements of the Muslim community(President Kalam, Najma Heptullah, Javed Akhtar, Arif Mohammad Khan etc.). I'm sure there will be no quick solutions but this will definetly generate lot of goodwill for the BJP both among moderate muslims and middle-class hindus.

2. Uniform civil code - This issue is of no electoral benefit for the BJP. The non-muslims of India already have a progressive civil code and this is a non-issue for them. So I feel the BJP should initiate a dialogue again with moderate elements of the muslim community and encourage them to come up with a civil code which is progressive and gives justice to muslim women.

3. Article 370 - Again this is more of a foreign policy issue which has no resonance in most of India. The BJP should take the stand that as and when there is a final settlement of the Kashmir issue with Pakistan, article 370 can be scrapped.

This will remove the 3 main handles that the "secular" media and political parties use to beat the BJP. Apart from the above 3 issues the BJP should talk about education, family planning and women empowerment issues with the common muslims. Basically have a positive agenda for the muslims. In all this the BJP should draw a clear distinction from the vote-bank approach of the Congress.

Agenda for the Christians
I think there is only one main irritant with the Christian community and that is the issue of conversions. The BJP should follow the same approach as the Ram Temple issue and facilitate a dialogue between moderate Hindu and moderate Christian leaders. I'm sure a status-quo, mutual-respect, no forced-conversion solution can be found. Other than this issue the Indian Christian community is a model minority and the Muslims should look to them as a role model.

A re-jig of the BJP's approach to the minorities will have several benefits for the BJP.
1. Even if the minorities don't vote for the BJP, they will stop tactical bloc voting to damage the BJP.
2. Will make it easier for anti-congress leaders like Naveen Patnaik, Nitish Kumar, Chiranjeevi, Chandrababu Naidu etc. to do business with the BJP.
3. Most importantly, it will not drive away the educated, urban, middle-class Hindu voters who want a peaceful India which can move on the path to development and prosperity. The most alarming situation for the BJP is that this segment which was the main bed-rock of the BJP is turning to the Congress.
4. Will blunt the media propaganda against the BJP.

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Future Course of Action - A Blueprint

Leaders, Followers and Friends of BJP,

Here are 9 secrets for BJP to succeed in 16th Lok Sabha Elections whenever it is held.

1. Future Leadership -

Please handover the Presidency of BJP and also leadership of parliamentary party to Mr Arun Jaitley. In parliament, Sushma, Rajnath, Ananth Kumar can lead in Lok Sabha, Venkiah, Ravi Shankar Prasad should be able to lead in Rajya Sabha.

Arun Jaitley has it in him to lead the party. We all know how well his speeches were received in Friends of BJP sessions.
People in opposition would try to derail him by saying he is too urbane and not acceptable to rural india. Believe me, that is not true. Look at Manmohan Singh. Is he a farmer? or Rural? What is his political standing? Jaitley can win the elections from Amritsar. So just go ahead and let him take the plunge.

2. Media Management -

Please let only Sudeendhra Kulkarni, Mahesh Jethmalani, Nalin Kohli, Siddarth Nath Singh and Saroj Pandey be the spokespersons of BJP for English and Hindi Media. Only these people can take part in talk shows and other programs.
Do NOT LET ANYONE ELSE TALK TO THE MEDIA. For Press Conferences it can be done by Ravi Shanker Prasad. Lets not allow anybody else to face media for heavens sake.

3. State Governments -

Use the services of Narendra Modi, Yashwant Sinha and Arun Shourie as Advisor/Consultant to the BJP governments in different states. I think we all should understand that Indian National elections are only an aggregation of 25 state elections. Performance of State governments, Strong leader at state level and Party Unity at state level is key to success.

4. Winning back lost small states -

We need to win back Delhi, Rajasthan, Jharkhand and Goa.

5. Improving Margins in States Ruled by BJP and allies -

Need to improve margin of victory in BJP ruled states. Drastic action required in Uttaranchal, Strong action in Punjab,
MP and Gujarat.

6. Holding on to States Ruled By BJP and allies where saturation reached in terms of winnable seats -

Retain Karnataka on your own and Bihar in alliance with JDU, these are the prized pocessions alongwith Himachal and Chattisgarh.

7. Winning Big States -

UP and Maha are the only BIg states where BJP can win. You need to find a solution to MNS issue in Maha and Slog it out in UP. MNS+SS+BJP required for Maha. For UP, try to portray voting SP, BSP and Cong is voting UPA.So the only alternative is NDA in the form of BJP+RLD.

8. Making Presence felt and creating Buffer for unexpected losses elsewhere -

Orissa, Assam and Haryana are the states with potential for improvement. Work hard in those 3. That will give BJP the buffer in case they do badly on one of their strongholds.

9. Start Breaking into Big States where BJP is not present -

AP, TN, WB and Kerala are really distant dream for now. The national strategy of BJP/NDA can never depend upon these states. Just hope that when you will be close to majority from elsewhere, someone from here can chip in and help.

The best the BJP can try for is alliance with LokSatta Party in AP and even get Vijayshanthi and other Telengana enthusiasts from TRS over to BJP. Tell them a regional outfit cannot achieve their dream.

In TN, how about asking Rajinikant to start a Regional Party with a National Outlook, say revive Rajaji's Swatantra Party with a more Tamil flavor. Then he can support BJP during next LS elections.

Looking forward to some action on these,

Don't lose Hope. The Sun will rise again.

On 16th may, I got upset after knowing trend of Election results.I did not open news channels after that .On 18th I opened your website & read your message “…We accept , Journey continues ” It gives me some moral boost fo face the BJP’s failure news. I wish BJP must be back on front , I am suggesting some points for your’s & BJP’s review .May this will help to get BJP back on front.

1.Social work Cell

Party should start social work at each town/District/State/National level through its offices.This will help us party to associate with people with a positive note. All social work should be monitor & recorded at central place IT Server .This should be headed by some senior Party leader for 3 Years tenure.

It must be make mandatory to work 1 Yrs in social cell to get eligible for party Ticket for MLA & MP. Those aspirant’s social work must be evaluated before giving party tickets .Dummy membership must not be allowed .Performance of social cell must be reviewed on quarterly basis with respect to its targets.

Party should identify & associate people from all segments of society who wish to honanary social work (Full/Part time ) like

a. Education/ Tuition to poor & Lower middle class childrens ,
b. Regular Medical consultation to poor’s ( Identify Alopathic /Ayurvedic/Homeopathic/
Naturalopathy doctors willing to voluntary part time ) ,
c. Career counseling’s to Youth passed 10th standard ( Identify/Develop career counselors who
can work voluntary for party ),
d. Career training programs /Camps like Tailoring , Hair cutting ,Mechanics etc ( Identify
potential trainers / Businessmen’s willing voluntary to work for poor male/Females youths )
e. Identify potential persons who can sponsored expanses of education ( ITI ,
Journalism, Sports, Engineering, medical ) of poor & lower middle class students under the
banner of BJP .
f. Counseling cell who can educate & help people ( Specially Poor/Lower middle class ) to get
benefits of different schemes of Govt agencies & NGO’s .
g. Sport cell who can motivates & Monitor youth for participation in sports activities regularly at
Different levels i.e Village, District, State ,National & International .
h. Party must keep budget for 5 % seats in States & LS .So that eligible poor and middle class
candidates can contest elections . All expances must be bear by Party only .This activity will
help Party to get good candidates as well as party base across the Middle & lower class
segments .

2. Youth Participation

I feel impression of BJP among youth is as a Party having people ‘who beats Couples on Velantine Day” “ who demonstrate against Beauty contests”, “ who oppose meeting of young boys & girls”” who opposes western dance & western education”. However some of the occasion Higher leadership tried to break this image but I don’t see much effect on youth . I suggest party must try to reverse this image because today’s youth is more open ,intelligent believing to match the world class standards alongwith enjoying the life . India is a place of festivals , People like festivals adopt different festive cultures in our life example of it Gujrati Garba & valentine day . Party must work to realize them party is very near to them , believe in openness , advance to match current challenges alongwith festive culture . Party must evaluate BJP popularity among youths regularly across the country .

BJP must ensure 10% position in party organization post , civic , legislation & parliament must be filled below age of 35 years youth ( male & Female ) similarly 10% must be filled by the youth of 50 yrs old .This would work as magic to increase BJP presence across the country .

3.Higer Polling participations

It is believed that low polling percentage reduces chances of party .Some of the segments like Muslims , those polling turn out are high gives votes against BJP . So Party must think to increase polling turn out so that Anti BJP votes can be compensated. I Excatly don’t know effective methods to increase polling turnout But It is very much essential for Party’s WIN . BJP must seriously think about it . One reason people do not believe their vote power or significance but I think there must be more other reasons i.e Movement of people for their business or service , voter list updation etc . BJP must take this issue on various forums to consider voting on movable locations , Voting through post as well as voting +_ 3 days of schedule voting Day .Party must set own targets of Polling percentage ,must work to cross it each polling booth .BJP future depends on Higher voting percentage .

4. Increase BJP presence in other states

Party having No presence in Big states like West Bengal , Andra Pradesh , Tamilnadu & Utter Pradesh .If party do not work aggressively to get good quantum of seats in these states ,There is again chances to remain away from Power at center .Anti incumbency in BJP stronghold area will Big blow for BJP .There must be Do& Die for BJP to win these states .

5. Creating Own Vote Bank

It is very clear that Muslims do not vote for BJP . Two things happens ,one as possible as Muslim cast their vote to defeat BJP , second other political party create Untouchable environment to get Muslim votes . Hence BJP must think equal amount of vote bank for BJP very silently. Whenever BJP talk about terrorism , whenever terrorist strikes muslim comes under fear & cast their vote against BJP . As I know before Mumbai attack , BJP seems stronger as BJP was on winning track .After Mumbai attack all muslims cast their vote against BJP in Delhi & Rajasthan . Similar trend keep continue in LS polls 2009 . Earlier muslim votes divided in Anti BJP parties but now It goes to Congress . whenever BJP talks about security .terrorism all muslim votes polarize against BJP but in same ratio there is no polarization of Hindu votes in favour of BJP . BJP must silently work on these issues & make its strategies towards Majority .

Best of luck for the next battle

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