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Believe it or not, a new film by Satyajit Ray is ready for release. Sikkim, Ray's never-before-seen documentary on the mountain kingdom, will be seen for the first time at the 14th Kolkata Film Festival (KFF) on November 17. Sources say it intended to show life in Sikkim, but suffered a double dose of censorship when the then Union government banned the documentary and destroyed all its known copies after Sikkim became an Indian state in 1975.

The Chogyal, or former King of Sikkim, had some scenes cut in 1975. The Indian government then saw the documentary as being dedicated to monarchy, particularly a scene where a crowd prostrated before the Chogyal.

While the Chogyal commissioned Ray to make the 60-minute documentary in 1971, it is said that not even Ray's son, Sandip, has seen it. "For years it was thought that the film was lost forever. In January 2003, a good quality print was found with the British Film Institute. Acclaimed preservationist Joseph Lindner from the Academy of Motions Pictures Arts & Science painstakingly did the frame-by-frame digital restoration at nearly $250,000," the source said.

The American Center, Kolkata, hosting the screening, has sought permission from the Chogyal, the producer, through the trust that handles copyright issues for the royal family, said American Center director Douglas G. Kelly.

"It will be a video preview. Although we're digitally restoring Sikkim for a 35-mm screen, the screening will be in the DVD format since the master print won't be restored before December 15," said Lindner, who has also restored Ray classics like Goopy Gyne Bagha Byne and Abhijaan.

And a baki wet-dream to end the article.
http://thenews.com.pk/instep_today.asp
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The American Center, Kolkata, hosting the screening, has sought permission from the Chogyal, the producer, through the trust that handles copyright issues for the royal family, said American Center director Douglas G. Kelly.
name rings alarm bells anyone ?
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Telegraphindia:

RDX-packed bomb defused
A STAFF REPORTER

Guwahati, Nov. 7: An army patrol party found a 2kg bomb packed with RDX planted under a concrete bridge on the Sonari-Sapekhati road in Sivasagar district, close to the Nagaland border, a route frequented by the security forces.

Had the bomb exploded, the four-metre-long culvert would have been left unusable.

An army officer based in Upper Assam said the finger of suspicion pointed to Ulfa as the area was once a stronghold of the outfit and the target was definitely security personnel. “The bomb was detected around 7am and defused about three hours later,” he said.

On Wednesday, 1.5kg of RDX was recovered from an arrested Ulfa militant in the same district.

According to Padmapani, a Guwahati-based forensic expert, a huge quantity of RDX was used in the October 30 blasts — around 80kg — in the city alone. Though sleuths of the National Security Guards (NSG) confirmed the use of RDX, they said the three bombs were packed with 18kg explosives.

The army officer said there was hardly any doubt that Ulfa had planted the bomb near Aideobari tea estate, 4km from the Nagaland border, because of its proximity to the neighbouring state.

He said Ulfa militant Parikshit Gogoi, from whom RDX was recovered on Wednesday, had revealed during interrogation that the consignment was brought from Nagaland.

A source associated with the intelligence-gathering apparatus said in the “who gains from the blasts” analysis, it was unanimously agreed that Ulfa stood to benefit the most as it would again be a force to reckon with. It could relaunch its extortion drive in Upper Assam which had a taken a severe beating after the ceasefire by the 28 battalion.

The outfit had denied its role within an hour after the blasts. The source said there was no reason yet to eliminate the possibility of Ulfa’s role in the serial explosions, especially after the RDX haul and the bomb find.

Intelligence sources said the recent explosions could not have been carried out by Ulfa alone given the high quantum of RDX used.

Parking norms

The Assam government today made it mandatory for drivers to give their names and addresses to the authorities concerned while parking their vehicles at various public places. The drivers will also have to allow their vehicles to be inspected to ensure that those do not contain any explosive devices.
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I read a report that police have arrested three ulfa members including a woman
with 9 kg RDX on a bus near koliabhomora bridge in nagaon distt @ a place
called bokakhat which is a lunch/tea stop for long distance buses.
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singha ji, the assam blasts thread is still around.
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Not sure if this is the correct thread.

http://www.morungexpress.com/
I have just come across a newspaper called Morung Express. This is based in Dimapur. You can actually read the whole print edition.
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China 'regrets' Pranab's remarks on Arunachal :((
China on Tuesday angrily rejected India's assertion that Arunachal Pradesh is its integral part, insisting that Beijing never recognised the 'illegal' McMahon Line and that the status of the border state was 'never officially demarcated'.

As for the pending boundary issue between China and India, the Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said that China is willing to find a solution, which is 'fair, reasonable and acceptable' to the two sides, through peaceful and friendly negotiation in the spirit of mutual understanding and adjustment.

This is the second time within a week that Beijing has reacted sharply to Mukherjee's remarks on China.

On November 7, China had rejected an apparent 'China threat' remark made by him during a speech.
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Dear Friends,

ISI is prodding the hawks in the Chinese establishment to rake up the issue while it sets off bombs in North East with help of DGFI and ULFA. The reason China is daring to claim a part of our country is nothing but the appalling state of internal security in the North East. Presumably such potent networks of ISI-DGFI combine is present in North East and West Bengal, along with the local MLA/ MP help, strict action of eliminating the network elements has to be undertaken ( you cannot prove everyone guilty ). The time is to send a message, Indian security establishment is not incapable and will stop at nothing. Lets clean our own home first.

One word on Hindu fundamentalism. That is the farthest goal of ISI. About 10 years back there were news of ISI feelers penetrating VHP. Remember one arrest of a RAW officer from North Delhi. He was taken for a North Indian who was staying in Delhi for 15 years. He turned out to be a DGFI mole who crossed into India through the West Bengal border in 1980s. The ISI was not stupid, it had cultivated the DGFI since then, while we were only focussed on Punjab and Kashmir.

Given the anti-Muslim sentiment on the rise, even if a far right Hindu organization comes to power, the ISI sleepers will be in vantage point, and if not, given political parties ( Sp from UP and CPM from West Bengal ), still they have ample hopes to keep their activities running.

The ISI works on a long-term and a short-term agenda in parallel. We have to break both.


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Dear Friends,

One important point I missed out, lets not be very complacent about our security presence in Nepal. We have a three pronged war there against the ISI-China-DGFI combine.


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Hi friends,

Ever heard of the East Bengal Communist Party which is waging a Communist struggle against the Bangladeshi government?


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ukhrul wrote:Dear Friends,

One important point I missed out, lets not be very complacent about our security presence in Nepal. We have a three pronged war there against the ISI-China-DGFI combine.


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Our agencies seemed to be doing pretty OK till the new govt came about...wonder if we are getting the same help under the Maoists?
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Hi,

Just returned from a week long family vacation to West Bengal and Sikkim. Points of interest to BRF:

1. There is an ongoing 'movement' for Gorkha Land in WB. As far as I know this one is political and not the same one that was seen in the 1980s. These guys are attempting to setup a parallel government in WB. The visible signs of the same were:

- Issuing vehicle number plates to all with "GL-XXXX" codes. Atleast 30% of all cars in Darjeeling sport these illegal number plates. Original WB-XXXX numbers have been taken off.

- Painting over "Gorkhaland" over all sign boards instead of West Bengal. This has been done even on government buildings.

- Gorkhaland Flags hosted over many houses and buildings

- Posters extorting the public to demand the state as their right

- Posters with the map of gorkhaland and 'welcome to gorkhaland' signs. Includes dsitrcits from WB and Assam from what I could make out.

- holding large scale public meetings.

I dont know whether these people are separatists or asking for a new state - nevertheless the state writ is being challenged in the open.

2. Sikkim:

- Large number of hydro electric projects under construction. I counted three from the highway.

- Roads are being widened thruout the state. BRO is everywhere. Exisiting road upto Nathu La is pretty good and accomodates for 2 lanes of traffic.

- Atleast one 105 mm battery deployed near chinese border visible from highway near Nathu La.

- BRO is using heavy equipment such as Tata Tippers, BEML bulldozers, drills, hydraulic cranes and earth movers apart from daily wage labour.

- Large number of trucks operated by Sikkim Nationalised Transport company. No doubt aiding the speedy construction.

- Trading market has been established where Chinese drive in their lorries (identified by Chinese number plates) and hawk their goods. These guys can even speak broken Hindi now. Chinese goods of all kinds are in every shop in Sikkim. Fake Nikes, Reeboks galore.
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Various units deployed in Sikkim which I noticed (this is not a comprehensive orbat):

'Blackcat' Div
'Topgun' arty regt
10 Bn MAHAR Regt, Indian Army
11 Bn, ITBP
24 Bn, SSB
86 RCC, BRO
87 RCC, BRO
1 Bn, IRB
HQ Sikkim Armed Police
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Aditya G wrote:
2. Sikkim:

- Large number of hydro electric projects under construction. I counted three from the highway.

- Roads are being widened thruout the state. BRO is everywhere. Exisiting road upto Nathu La is pretty good and accomodates for 2 lanes of traffic.

- Atleast one 105 mm battery deployed near chinese border visible from highway near Nathu La.

- BRO is using heavy equipment such as Tata Tippers, BEML bulldozers, drills, hydraulic cranes and earth movers apart from daily wage labour.

- Large number of trucks operated by Sikkim Nationalised Transport company. No doubt aiding the speedy construction.

- Trading market has been established where Chinese drive in their lorries (identified by Chinese number plates) and hawk their goods. These guys can even speak broken Hindi now. Chinese goods of all kinds are in every shop in Sikkim. Fake Nikes, Reeboks galore.

How is the accees to Tibet. Can we visit Lhasa. How far is Lhasa from Sikkim
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Dear Friends,

Let us first drive home a point for the ISI-DGFI combine in North East and West Bengal.

We need to make a point for the ISI by ruthlessly terminating all the identified sympathizers in the region, irrespective of the status of the culprits.

With the heat turning on Pakistan, ISI will smuggle most of its best future cadre into Bangladesh and it will be the major centre of hub of terrorism against us.

The ISI follows the pattern of any MNC, they set up training and recruitment facilities and a strong local network. Now the obvious thing you need in loads for such an operation is money.

The way Paki-Chinese hackers are wrecking havoc in the land of IT "superpower", we are in urgent need of a dedicated cyber warfare team.

The team should each be made up of maximum two professionals, and work discretely in disabling potential ISI-DGFI bank assets, tap into their electronic data exchange.

We have to heavily develop our electronic counter measure capability, and each of us civilians have to learn and learn, we have to master the art of cyber warfare, this we can, believe me my friends, and imagine what a 10 million strong cyber army can do to anyone pissing them off.

Let us make it a point to learn languages of our enemies which are a form of their data encryption. Let us learn Chinese, Bangla and Urdu.

Let us devote just one hour per day in learning about these, we surely can make a difference.

My friends, when the time to kick a** comes, lets break their spines.

Jai Hind!

Ukhrul.
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O boy, the editorial of Assam's Sentinel newspaper is a cracker.

Posting in full as unsure of the site archives. Worth a read, ppl!
Tacit Admission of Influx
Editorial, The Sentinel

All of a sudden, Asom Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi has decided to do a neat volte-face on the issue of illegal infiltration from Bangladesh. He has suddenly deemed it necessary to request the Centre to take stern action against Bangladesh, which, he claims, has turned out to be a base for terrorists. He told a press conference on Sunday that he had told the Centre to initiate stringent measures against Bangladesh. He also admitted that matters like maintenance of law and order had emerged as major problems for Asom. He also said that Asom and the northeastern States had a larger number of insurgent groups in comparison to other States which accounted for increased terrorist activities in the region. He said that the problems of Asom had got exacerbated by the action of neighbouring countries in giving shelter to insurgents.

None of this is really unfamiliar news for the people of Asom. They have watched not only the activities of terrorists in the Northeast being stoked by the support provided by Bangladesh and Myanmar but also how the influx of Bangladeshis into Asom has brought about an alarming demographic change in the State. What is surprising, however, is that Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi, who has long encouraged this illegal immigration, should now express alarm at the outcome of the measures he has been adopting to promote this illegal influx from Bangladesh. During his two terms as Chief Minister of the State, he has done everything possible (a) to retain the IM(DT) Act of 1983 by spending huge sums of public money to contest the challenge to the Act by AGP MP Sarbananda Sonowal; (b) to oppose every legitimate move of the people of Asom to identify Bangladeshis in the State who came after March 25, 1971; and (c) to certify all Bangladeshis driven out by the Arunachal Pradesh government to be Indian nationals in just two days.

His government has taken the anti-people step of repudiating the identification of illegal immigrants from Bangladesh by individuals and organizations outside the government. All the activities of his government vis-à-vis illegal immigrants from Bangladesh have been geared to the express need of swelling the illegal vote banks of the Congress solely for the electoral advantage of the party and without any concern for the security of the country.

The UPA government at the Centre and the Congress-led government of Asom have laboured under the delusion that all the people can be fooled all the time on demographic issues. It will be recalled how the UPA government found fault with the Census of India for publishing the religion-wise break-up of the population of Asom that had revealed the higher growth rate of the Muslim population in Asom in the year 2004 — three years after the 2001 census. The Census figures for Asom and Jammu & Kashmir were promptly withdrawn because the 2001 census had shown a higher decadal rate of growth for the Muslim population and were thus deemed not to be politically correct.

What is worse, the Census of India was tacitly discouraged from publishing the religion-wise breakdown of the population of India because the Congress was aware of the kind of demographic change it was perversely bringing about in the country for political gains, even though it may have been rather naïve about the consequences of such action for the security and sovereignty of the country.

We have pointed out time and again for the benefit of the Congress that the religious breakdown of the population of every country appears in the very first paragraph of the entry on a country in reference books like The World Almanac and Book of Facts every year. But apart from this, people in India have access to information culled from Indian sources about how a plan to create an Islamic country to be called ‘Moghalistan’ by linking Pakistan to Bangladesh and annexing parts of Asom, West Bengal, northern Bihar, northern UP, Haryana and Punjab is on the cards. What has encouraged the Islamic theocrats behind this grand design is the abnormal increase in the Muslim population of some districts in Asom, West Bengal, Bihar and UP. The population figures and projected maps are there for all to see.

Is it possible that Chief Minster Tarun Gogoi is at last beginning to see what his vote politics has done to the demography of Asom? Or is it that he realizes now (after the serial blasts of October 30 in Asom and 26/11 in Mumbai) that the situation has gone out of the State’s control? Or is it that he is beginning to worry a little even about the electoral equations for the next Lok Sabha elections? After all, fear is the greatest motivator of the Indian politician.
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Let us learn Chinese, Bangla and Urdu.
There are several different Chinese dialects available, and meanings are phoneme based, so that it becomes imperative to learn from natives. Also the IT capable Chinese attacks are more likely to come from the Singaporean/Hong Kong based ones, who in their turn are likely to be quite prificient in English. You really do have to be in mainland China to learn to catch everything that can be used (audio components I mean). Bangla relevant for IT ops, would have to be in both flavours - WB as well as Bangladeshi. Urdu also has several flavours as far as I know, but may not be that relevant for IT. I think you have to include, Gorkhali (spoken by the Gorkhas in the north), Nepalese Hindi, etc.

The Gorkha separatist movement was always political. It was supported by two interested "parties" - the British and taken up with enthusiasm by the early Communists. The CPI was very very supportive of the original separatist idea of Gorkha-autonomy-separatism - they hoped to gain ethnic support for themselves, given that in the neighbourhood they had already been quite successful in organzing the brutally repressed and exploited tea-garden workers.

The current crop of separatists are a fallout of the rise of Communist influence in Nepal, and could also have PRC as a behind the scenes player. This is political, have no doubts about it, and it is of crucial interest to a lot of people - it extends the reach of the "free corridors" from Nepal-through to Bihar+WB to BD to far NE. The Nepales communists can now serve as the breachead for PRC connecting the Maoists in Bihar, WB (connecting further down central-south India), the Gorkha separatists, BD and north BD terror networks through to ULFA and other NE outfits. The WB Left is weak in the North Bengal sector, due to complicated and long political battles. The thin neck connecting the NE with India can be snapped off easily, and while we are concentrating on the "west", it would be worthwhile to keep in mind PRC strategic goals.
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Centre not to agree to separate Darjeeling state demand

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Arunachal:

A thought provoking interview of Kiren Rijiju MP of Arunachal, regarding the Chinese incursions

http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/mar/04inter1.htm
But the real issue is that India after 1962 adopted a secret policy not to develop the border areas. The idea behind it is that if we develop the border areas, the Chinese can easily use these facilities in the event of a war.
Very very interesting!!! Any idea why this policy is still pursued today?????

Then he talks about Arunachal's energy potential
About 30 percent of the power will come from Arunachal alone. Arunachal has petroleum; gas, minerals, and the largest forested area in India. Arunachal has great water resources. India is going to face a water shortage.
And warning about lack of road access to the border
From the package announced by the prime minister, all border points will be five or six days by foot.
How can military personnel take care of our borders when they have to walk five or six days with arms and ammunition? I am honestly admitting that we are not prepared.
Overall a refreshing young MP from Arunachal (from BJP). He even got his own blog

Here is his web page http://kirenrijiju.googlepages.com/

Please read the interview, seldom do we see a politician showing such an indepth knowledge about strategic matters.
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Dear Friends,

The point is Kiren Rijiju's concerns are not finding place in local dailies.

The root of all problems in India are people are uneducated about issues that one should be aware, the press has to take onus to disseminate the national issues in one region to the people of another region, if there are incursions, then why the Indian Army is so afraid to arrest the Chinese Army personnels entering our country? I believe the Chinese detain Indian soldiers more than often, often 'disarming' them.

But of course, we cannot tackle insurgent groups like ULFA within our own country, forget standing up to an army!

India has to learn from Israel how to play diplomacy and war. India is still fearful of 1962, and that itself is a shame, it should not be fear, it should be rage.

India is slowly turning into the kind which claps in the railway compartments in trains for money, but has no capability to do anything. You will take this as an insult, but trust me that is how the Chinese, Pakis, Bangladeshis and Maoists of Nepal think of us.

Today CPN has thrown out Indian priests from Nepal, next it will be Indian business (to be replaced by Chinese).

We will prepare "dossiers of evidence", "protest notes", "dialogues", all that makes news and noise, but no action.

When will our elite babus who are in bureaucracy realise this? I wonder if they ever feel shame for letting down a country of a billion, although enjoying all the Union government subsidies when they were no to great themselves.

I regret to say, there is little about India which can cheer people of the North East.

I would also mention I will also be an Indian, come whatever may.

Regards,
Ukhrul.
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Assam Rifles in a face-off with NSCN insurgents.
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Ulfa peaceniks spill beans- Pro-talks group confirms outfit’s links with ISI & Bangla
Ulfa peaceniks spill beans
- Pro-talks group confirms outfit’s links with ISI & Bangla
NISHIT DHOLABHAI

New Delhi, Feb. 6: Ulfa’s pro-peace leaders today spilled the beans on chief whip Paresh Barua’s links with Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), training camps in Bangladesh and the outfit’s relationship with the state Congress and the AGP.

Mrinal Hazarika, the “lieutenant” heading the ceasefire-bound companies of Ulfa’s 28th battalion, today told reporters in New Delhi about his outfit’s training in Bangladesh, beginning with his own.

He described how he was trained in the neighbouring country and said until two years ago Ulfa sent its men to the Pakistan-Afghan border to train with help from the ISI.

Post 9/11, Hazarika said, in a bipolar world of Christians and Islamics, Ulfa had decided to go with the latter and has paid dearly, as no one listens to them at international fora.


Along with deputy Probal Neog, Hazarika is in Delhi to explore ways to negotiate with the Centre the possibility of turning Assam into a “completely autonomous council”.

They have spoken to chief minister Tarun Gogoi to facilitate the talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

“The top Ulfa leadership has close links with the ISI, Directorate General of Field Intelligence (the Bangladeshi intelligence agency) and some Islamic organisations. Without their support, it is not possible for anyone to have bases in Bangladesh,” Hazarika said.

Ulfa has several camps, offices and shelter places in Bangladesh, including a few in the cities, he added.

“All these have been running with the consent of the official agencies of that country.”

Barua and Arabinda Rajkhowa, along with Anup Chetia, are still in Bangladesh and have been sucked deep into the ISI’s network, prompting them to not only deny their role in the October 30 serial blasts but also deny the role of Islamic outfits from Bangladesh.

“What was the need to deny the Islamic outfits’ role? They have not come to Assam since the nineties and are currently hiring young people to trigger blasts,” Hazarika told The Telegraph.

Hazarika also did not deny links between Ulfa and leaders of the Congress and the AGP at different points of time.

“Without Ulfa, it was not possible for political parties to survive in Assam,” he said.

Hazarika also spoke about Ulfa’s relationship with the People’s Liberation Army and the National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang) group.

Neog went on to relate stories in perfectly accented Nagamese about the years spent in the company of NSCN (K) leader S.S. Khaplang, in Myanmar.

Outlining the group’s demands, Hazarika said they wanted autonomy for Assam in which an Upper House would grant equal representation to all indigenous people.

The leadership, he said, had erred in declining Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s proposal to “discuss all core issues” in 2007.

“It is because of unequal representation under the Indian Constitution that the Misings, Bodos or Karbis were all asking for either separate federal entities or complete independence. What if the government does not agree? Then we will be back to our struggle,” another Ulfa leader, Jiten Dutta, said.

Dutta was not present for the interaction.

Hazarika’s comments came at a time when Pakistan was oscillating between outright denial and sheepish acceptance of its involvement in the Mumbai attacks on November 26 last year and India was awaiting its “investigation report”.

But Ulfa is not the only group which has sent men to the badlands in Afghanistan for training. Vikiye Sema, an NSCN (I-M) activist in 1994-95, had once claimed of undergoing training in the Tora-Bora mountains and related his experiences with men, he thought, belonged to al-Qaida.

Sema along with another rebel first went to Bangladesh and flew to Karachi on Bangladeshi passports more than a decade ago. He had said they were taken to Peshawar by their contacts before being “respectfully escorted” to Afghanistan to undergo a “three-month course”.
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Dear Friends,

We have to take the present situation in Pakistan and Bangladesh to our advantage.

Indian Government must pressurise Bangladeshi DGFI and Pakistani ISI to give the details of their networks in the North East and West Bengal.

The options that Indian Government should give them is two:

(1) Give the details of the networks being used to provide logistics to terrorists in North East and rest of India, declare who are the agents who are operating in India. The agents can be taken back by their countries once they divulge to the last detail why they came to India, how far they achieved their devious goal and who are the local collaborators in India.

In return to this, Indian Government will not make the news public of this understanding reached to avoid putting political people in those countries in trouble.

Indian Intelligence will brutally eliminate the local collaborators who are convicted after corroborating evidence is found against them. This evidence will be combination of the Indian Intelligence watchlist and the confessions by the DGFI/ISI agents.

Mount high precision covert strikes inside Bangladesh to take out the key terrorist leaders holed up there, just to make a point. Invlove Bangladeshi forces in tandem, he command being jointly shared by Bangladeshi and Indian security heads. Officially it will be Bangladeshi action against terrorists and India will deny any involvement. It is time to convince the terrorists that India can hit hard and hit anywhere.

These strikes are to be carried out to root out ISI networks and North East insurgent entente there, who are almost in a position to call the shots there.

You may think, I am obsessed with Bangladesh. To some extent I am, because given Chinese influence in Burma and Bangladesh, we do not need a wild East situation in Bangladesh, where the Government there is on the backfoot in front of ISI-DGFI-Islamist combine. Is this not the situation we face while dealing with Pakistan? The diplomacy with Pakistan fails because there is no single point of power, there are contending points of power. The ISI is trying to do the same in Bangladesh, the BDR incident shows that. And last of all our mega enemy is waiting for the right moment to aggravate the Arunachal issue, once India slowly loses grip on internal security because of ISI in west, ISI-DGFI-Islamist in east and Naxal trouble in between. The people who have thought about the present situation in those countries must have been planning it for decades. It is time to act.

(2) Mount severe diplomatic pressure on the US and European Union to isolate these two countries funding Islamic terror in India.

Tell the US to put its Paki dog in leash, else forget "stability" in South Asia ( Still not aware where this stability is! ). We can't just die in our own country for some f***ing jihad right?

This approach is not very well suited for us, because the US will back out once its own military is given sufficient comfprt zone in Afganistan, unless Taliban does something real stupid.

Hopefully India will act.

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Ukhrul.
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Ukhrulji,
such a massive campaign requires complete prior intelligence cover and secrecy and total reliability of all the branches of intelligence and paramilitary or armed forces. Can you be essentially sure of this complete reliability on the part of BD military and intelligence? Without collaboration from part of them this entire recent attmept could not have succeeded. The Pakistani ISI, PRC and other international secret services are fimrly entrenched behind the state machinery and armed wings as well as the political elite. They were forced to retreat during '71 only because TSP military had to physically retreat and Indian entrance tipped the balance of power. That their roots were quite deep was revealed as soon as Indian army left. Moreover UK's devious role in BD and the backup devious presence of the EU +Unkil will complicate the matter - their primary target will be to prevent India rom being able to neutralize the Islamic threat. That they backed the "moderate" "centre-left" this time was simply to see to it that BD did not become so distracted by the Jihadis that created opportunities for India to repeat its '71 initiative. UK especially would like to keep all of TSP, Nepal, SL, BD active and foster anti-Indian sentiments there, and remember that they are now heavily tied up with PRC.

Such a massive operation will be leaked out. It only has to be swift, without knowledge of BD machinery, without knowledge of TSP government, without knowledge of PRC, at a time when least expected. So that has to be then an entirely different kind of operation.
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New IAF airfield to be reopened in east Ladakh
NEW DELHI: After successfully reopening Daulat Beg Oldi and Fuk Che airfields in Ladakh last year, India is now working aggressively to operationalise the Neoma Advanced Landing Ground (ALG) this year for the Indian Air Force (IAF), close to the Line of Actual Control (LAC) with China.

Though these airfields are being revived to support troop movement in times of need, India would prefer these to be ready for future tourism requirements.

In due course, the airfield at Neoma will also be converted into a full fledged runway to cater to future tourist inflow.

"This new ALG is coming up at Neoma in east Ladakh, which will, in all probability, be converted into a full fledged runway, like any other runway to cater for the future tourism requirements also in the region," IAF's Western Air Command Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief Air Marshal P K Barbora told reporters here on Monday.

Neoma is not as close to the LAC as Daulat Beg Oldi or Fuk Che are, but it will be close enough to support military operations too. The airfields were operated by the Indian armed forces during the 1962 Sino-Indian war, but closed a few years later.

"Not as close (to China) as DBO, Chushul or Fuk Che. But it is in a pretty comfortable place," Barbora said.

Work on Neoma airfield has already started and the IAF is preparing the ALG to operate fixed-wing aircraft.

Regarding the IAF's original plans to reopen the Chushul airfield in the Ladakh region, Barbora said the idea has been shelved for the moment, but it could be revived as and when the government wanted the ALG operationalised.

Giving reasons for the government decision, the Air Marshal said the IAF felt it was not required now because of the road connectivity that has come up there, and because of the amount of money and work that would go into preparing the airfield for operation.

"Whenever there is a requirement, we can and will prepare the Chushul airfield. Also, the amount of work that has to be fitted in to get it ready is not worth it. We already have done landing and take off at Daulat Beg Oldi and Fuk Che," he added.

When Neoma gets ready, it would be IAF's third ALG in Ladakh to be reopened nearer to the Chinese and Pakistani borders in the last one year in Jammu and Kashmir, with Daulat Beg Oldi and Fuk Che becoming operational in May and November respectively.

The IAF has been reopening airfields to strengthen its air maintenance operations and promotion of tourism in the region, which is the gateway to the highest battlefield, Siachen Glacier.
Tourism seems to be gaining momentum as the good reason for opening new air fields. :P
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Tourists just love to gawk at artillery emplacements, tour underground bunkers etc
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Gerard wrote:Tourists just love to gawk at artillery emplacements, tour underground bunkers etc
Would be interested to know if Mallya's or Jet are interested opening new routes to this airbase. Err my bad, possibly IAF choppers will be doing job of civilian aircrafts to foster tourism in this area :lol:
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NCC funds siphoned off in N-E
Huge amounts of funds sent to the Northeast for promoting NCC activity in the region appear to have been pocketed by some defence personnel.

While exact amount is not known, NCC group headquarters in Kohima, Guwahati, Dibrugarh and Silcher have reported that demand drafts purportedly issued in their name amounting to Rs 43 lakh had not been received by them.

Meanwhile, the NCC headquarters have ordered an inquiry into the matter and also lodged an FIR in Shillong.

When the NCC Directorate, North-Eastern Region, Shillong, checked up with the concerned branch of the Central Bank of India, money was found to be siphoned off to other accounts by the NCC staff after cancelling the demand drafts, which were initially issued in favour of various NCC units and headquarters. For the cancellation of the demand drafts, the signature of accounts officer V.W. Lakhar was forged.

Since details from NCC group headquarters in Tezpur, Imphal, Jorhat and Shillong are awaited, the total amount is likely to go much higher.

“What has come out could be the tip of the iceberg and investigations into previous years may also be necessary,” a senior officer said on condition of anonymity.

The Directorate General, NCC, Ministry of Defence, Lt Gen R.K. Karwal, is reported to have ordered a probe into the matter.
While preliminary investigations have pointed to the alleged involvement of NCC Director Colonel A.K. Barua, who operated the account, and D.C. Borah, an accounts clerk, sources in the NCC Directorate here said involvement of others could not be ruled out.

Baruah and Borah have retired recently.

The fraud was unearthed when a consolidated list of the money sent to various group headquarters and NCC units during the past one year was cross-checked with them.

The incident will seriously impact the entire NCC funding in the Northeast. Besides Jammu and Kashmir, the northeastern states are provided special funds by the Centre to the tune of Rs 30 crore annually for training and holding of camps. The NCC directorates in the region also get special funding from the Northeastern states.

“We are also looking at the lack of coordination between the funding from different sources,” sources in NCC headquarters said.
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Dear All,

The Hasina government is investigating the BDR revolt. And surely many of the conspirators are being silently bumped off. We can make sure that most of the ISI elements are trapped in this. The recent turn of events must have surely weakened the ISI there, we have to take advantage of this. We are all aware, its all or never in Northeast and West Bengal, if nothing else the wave of demographic onslaught will make it impossible for security forces to control.

The "Indian democracy" depends on votes and majority votes decide the government. If a day comes when only Bangladeshi Muslim votes matter here, then god save all the intelligence and armed forces operations goingon there. Does not our intelligence agencies know that? If we do not have renegade agents in our apparatus, how can they save themselves what is staring at their faces? Will Indian security apparatus just fall apart, to the likes of such scums?

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The kangress govt. has subverted the democratic process by indulging in vote bank politics. This is all over India but the situation in the northeast is by far the most acute. The winking game between the pseudo seculars and the owaisi types is undermining all forms of governance. The relationship is another symptom of the severe corruption that is destroying our foundations. What happens in the northeast today is a reflection of what can happen to the rest of India in the future. The question is how to break this criminal nexus (poisonous tree) that is erasing all notions of confidence about governance in the minds of the common folk and will affect future generations to come.
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After the muslims in Assam started their own party AUDF, the congress afraid of losing the muslim votes (a very perverted notion on its own ) invited the imam of Jama Masjid to come down to assam and ask the muslims to vote for congress ! so much for secular.
Pasting below the sentinel editorial which i think is very true .

ful editorial here http://www.sentinelassam.com/editorial. ... ppr=1#8656
Voting in ‘Secular’ India

......Thus, unlike many other sovereign states of the world that are democratic as well as secular (but that do not proclaim their secular credentials from housetops), we were obliged also to proclaim the fact that we were secular at the bidding of such minority groups that did not have the means to be secular within the framework of their respective faiths. No wonder, for all practical purposes, our so-called secularism has degenerated into a kind of pseudo-secularism that has one characteristic feature: it is vehemently anti-majority by being rabidly anti-Hindu. To be a dyed-in-the-wool secularist in India, even the Hindu must spew objectionable untruths about his own religion.
Some of the recent statements of the Prime Minister and the actions of Asom Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi have demonstrated only too clearly how hollow our claims of being democratic and secular can be. On Tuesday, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said in New Delhi that the “secular-communal divide” was important in the country. “I do not see (that) this country has any future except by staying with secular values,” he added. The pertinent questions that arise are: What secular-communal divide does he have in mind? And what kind of secular values does he envisage? The kind of anti-majority values that pass for secularism with the Congress? For the Congress, the terms communal and secular are merely tokens of convenience. According to the Congress’ warped notions of secularism, anything that goes against the majority Hindus of the country is secular. When the Congress goes in for a coalition with the Muslim League either in Kerala or at the Centre, this is an alliance with a secular party. But whenever any political party forges an alliance with the BJP, both parties are communal. The Congress has sought to perpetuate this brand of pseudo-secularism long enough.
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Is the failure to conclude the trial of the SIMI activists who carried out serial blasts in several Indian cities due to secular tolerance or electoral pragmatism masquerading as secularism? One cannot fool all the people all the time.
Asom Chief Minister Tarun Gogoi was so concerned about the emergence of the AUDF causing a split in the Muslim votes for the Congress that he deemed it proper even to invite a Muslim religious leader to speak to the Muslim electorate in the State to prevent such a split. And this is called a secular republic! In which other secular republic of the world has one heard of the head of a State inviting a religious leader to address election gatherings? If he is so concerned about the split in the Muslim votes, why is he not concerned about the split in the Hindu votes? After all, despite a Muslim majority in eight districts of Asom, they do not constitute the majority in the remaining 19 districts. Has the Chief Minister not indicated very clearly (a) that he is counting only on the votes of the Bangladeshis who have swelled the list of illegal voters in the last few months and (b) that winning by resorting to communal practices is all right for the Congress even if it is not all right for other political parties? Obviously, what is sauce for the goose is not sauce for the gander. And we still pretend that this is a democratic country and that we practise genuine secular values!
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Question for NE folks:

why are the Bangladeshi illegals are more concentrated in Assam as compared to Meghalaya. Any geographical reasons or something else? The length of the border is almost same.

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Muppalla wrote:Question for NE folks:

why are the Bangladeshi illegals are more concentrated in Assam as compared to Meghalaya. Any geographical reasons or something else? The length of the border is almost same.

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Assam already had sizable muslim population to begin with and this population centres formed the nucleus around which the BDs settled and grew. Such is not the case in Meghalaya.

just my 2c
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Some reasons for this:

1. Assam's muslim assamese population initially supported the muslim infiltrators- probably still do in one way or another- like helping them get ration card etc.
2. Meghalaya's christian establishment is much more vigil to this kind of demographic khichdi.
3. The hilly terrain in the Meghalaya border.
4. Silchar, Karimganj in Assam have many bengali settlers from before (1947-1971). It is easy to mix around there for a bangladeshi mulla infiltrator. Also it is easier to find work there then in Shillong etc.
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Coming back to my most favourite thread after some time. Was away from home. My 2 paise regarding the last couple of posts .........


1. The latest reports say that several dozen BDR revoltees have taken shelter in ULFA camps
in border jungle areas and in Burma. They escaped with a good amount of arms and ammo, and they are providing training to ULFA recruitees full time (in exchange of protection, I guess).

2. Regarding the question why BD illegal immigrants go to Assam rather than Meghalaya -

(a) Okay, first of all, there is a natural barrier between BD and Meghalaya. Meghalaya landmass suddenly rises like a huge slab of stone (pleateu). The border is covered with
thick / dense tropical forest (which is so dense and primitive that rumors have that there is
an ape-man, yeti type, in that forest, with recent sightings widely reported in the western media). The official border is near Tura which has a steady flow of traffic though. But
that border crossing opens at the northern part of BD district called 'Sri Hotto' (Shylet) which is known as the intellectual capital of BD. Here people are most educated, economically highly affulent, and traditionally very stable with no reason to migrate. Northern Shylet is very picturesque dotted with tea estates and orange, pineapple groves. This is one of the few areas in BD where after the 1971 war hindus went back enmasse and did very well all along. Luckily, this is my ancestral place, and most of my folks are still there.


(b) Once you enter Meghalaya, the local dealings are firmly in the hands of the main tribes - Garo, Khashi and Jayantia. There are pockets of bengali hindus, mostly who settled there four-five decades ago, and are well integrated within the local populace. (Remember that Indian Idol runners up Amit Paul, the local bong chap. His success, and his singing of a popular Khashi song, at the public felicitation at Nehru stadium, Shillong two years ago, have been highly helpful whatever cracks had appeared between bong and tribal communities.) Though a large chunk of garos and some Khashis are christians, rest of Khashis and jayantias are still strongly animists/hindus. Here tribal dominated policeand village officials can and do detect the illegal sporadic immigrants from BD, and they are routinely rounded up and deported without much fanfare. :D :D :D

(c) The crucial part of the reason of this situation is - agriculture. Meghalaya has much less aerable land, and this is firmly in control of the tribals. Most of thre illegal BD immigrants are poor farmers and/or have few skills. That is the reason why most of them are headed toward Assam - in flat land areas. They mostly claim newly formed riverbanks and start cultivating
the place. Some head toward already muslim dominated areas like Goalpara, Shilchar or Karimganj. Actually, in the recent election, these BD muslims' party AUDF has given a huge jolt to INC. Shilchar's son of the soil, incumbent INC candidate Santosh Mohon Deb, lost miserably due to muslim votes went to AUDF, making the way clear for the BJP candidate.
The other lowskill BD illegal immigrants are cheap masons, domestic help, etc. who do sneak into tribal dominated states like Nagaland, Manipu Mizoram and meghalaya. Their distinctive features make them easy pick for local police or villace councils, and are again rounded up for deportation. A few years back, some rape cases by these BDs caused a stir in nagaland, and they were kicked out in hordes. But, again, with normalcy, the cheap labor prevails sometimes.

Hope I clarified some of the queries, at least partially.
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Wow. There is a lot to learn everyday. Thanks guys.
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Can all the best minds work on a development plan for the North East and the central core linked to the NE? India cannot "Look East" without looking at its own East.
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