Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 11 Jul 2009 16:48

Rejoice, all ye despondent pakis! Solution to all your problems is in sight. Dark clouds about to move away. Rivers of milk and honey about to flow.

Pakistan Motherland Party (PiMP) launched

RAWALPINDI: A new political party, the Pakistan Motherland Party, has been launched with the vow to restore pride and dignity of Pakistan with collective vision to build the country as an economic power.

According to a press release, the leadership of the Pakistan Motherland Party belongs to middle and upper classes. Mohammad Akbar is the founder and co-chairman of the party. According to the outline of the party manifesto, it will focus on strengthening the economy on a war footing to strengthen Pakistan and restore its dignity by exploring natural wealth and bringing about agricultural and industrial revolutions.

Other key strategies:

According to the party’s manifesto, women shall be given maximum participation and representation in economic activities; the nation shall be united by implementing provincial autonomy promised in the 1973 Constitution; accountability shall be across the board without discrimination and political victimisation; media and the judiciary will be free; opposition shall enjoy the same respect as the ruling party; pride and dignity of the nation shall not be compromised at any cost. The foreign policy shall be independent and no foreign dictation shall be entertained.

No more GUBOing!! Sell all those oil futures. Please note the legal disclaimer:

The above does not apply to the 90% of the population that constitutes the lower classes, the minorities, and the tellibunnies. Headquarters of PiMP will be located in an undisclosed country until it is safe for all our members to travel. The above is a paid announcement by The Mental Institutions of Pookistan and all its affiliates and wellwishers.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 11 Jul 2009 17:08

Porkis turning vegan!

Tuesday and Wednesday have been re-designated as meatless days in the province. Previously in 2006, the then chief minister Ghulam Arbab Rahim had changed the meatless days to Wednesday and Thursday.

Meanwhile, the Meat Merchants Welfare Association of Karachi has welcomed this decision.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Jul 2009 17:09

The Believers and the Faithfuls should take strong objection to the naming of the new party. As Nazis used to refer to their land, the Pakis also use the term 'Fatherland'.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 11 Jul 2009 17:24

SSridhar wrote:The Believers and the Faithfuls should take strong objection to the naming of the new party. As Nazis used to refer to their land, the Pakis also use the term 'Fatherland'.

Pakistan doesn't have a father. There are some theories, that he was an anonymous Arab or Turk, who was passing by and felt like riding something else other than his horse for a change. Until the Turks or the Arabs officially acknowledge the Pakistanis as being their aulad, they will remain haraami, and cannot officially have either a 'Father' or a 'Fatherland'. Whatever be the case, even if they have a 'Fatherland', it is in some far-away desert, in the salwar of a Bedouin, and not in Pakistan.

Aach-Thooo!

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Jul 2009 17:30

ISI Chief involved in discussions: Manmohan Singh

MMS should not feel apologetic about what he told Zardari within earshot of the media. Pakistan understands nothing better than a good jhapad. Niceties do not work. We should hit and continue to hit Pakistan without let up.

Stating that he had not not "given up" despite difficulties in dealing with Pakistan, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh on Saturday disclosed that representatives of the two countries including the ISI chief had been involved in discussions recently.

Ahead of the meeting he will have with his Pakistani counterpart Yousuf Raza Gilani in Egypt next week, Mr. Singh said that after the discussions between him and President Zardari in Russia last month "there have been discussions between the High Commissioners and with the ISI chief and the Foreign Office."

The Prime Minister gave no indication of how and with whom from the Indian side the ISI chief Shuja Pasha held discussions but said, "they (the Pakistani side) have given some suggestions ....some information on what they are doing about punishing those behind the Mumbai massacre."

"Now we hope they would take some steps in that direction (punishing the perpetrators) and with this hope I will meet Gilani," he told reporters on board his special plane while returning home from Italy.

Mr. Singh also sought to assuage Pakistani public opinion by making it clear that he had not intended to hurt Mr. Zardari's feelings in any way when he had told him in the presence of the media that "my mandate is limited to telling you that the territory of Pakistan must not be allowed to be used for terrorism against India."

"I simply forgot that the media was present there," he said in reference to his meeting with Mr. Zardari in Yekaterinburg in Russia.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Jul 2009 17:46

Gilani disapproves dance by female performer

Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani Saturday expressed disapproval over dance by a female performer on a theme song during a ceremony here.

He directed not to repeat anything like that.

He attended a ceremony held on the occasion of World Population Day and a woman performed on a theme song; thereupon, the PM expressed disapprobation.

Jaspreet · Post by **Jaspreet** » 11 Jul 2009 18:17

Indian diplomacy has fallen for the usual Pakistani bait of Taqiyya by not only taking Zardari's statement

I find it very difficult to believe that Indian diplomacy could "fall" for the usual Pakistani bait. Firstly, the Indian diplomats aren't fools. Secondly, the information upon which you base your opinions on is open source. Most of what transpires is behind the scenes and isn't known to the general public. And the integrity of open source is questionable. Each media outlet reports the same piece of news as per its own biases and edits out a part because of space considerations or bias or whatever.

The Indian response to Mumbai massacre has been more sustained than the attack on Parliament. The armed forces mobilization and threats didn't produce any results. Public embarrassment of Pak head of state won't either. Perhaps talking to their ISI chief will get us somewhere.

It also seems unlikely that the sole agenda of talking to the ISI chief is to stop Pakistanis from launching terrorist attacks on India. Such a discussion will quickly lead to something like:
India - your people are launching attacks
Pak - you're not allowing Kashmiris freedom
Ind - We have proof.
Pak - These are non-state actors. I didn't order them.

We cannot expect the ISI chief to cough an embarrassed cough, hang his head in shame and promise the Indians that nothing of the sort will happen again.

What will you do in the face of such denials? I hope that the reason for these discussions is something more substantial. It is not to ask Pakistanis to stop because India has proof but to ask them to stop because there is(are) some card(s) that India has (perhaps water) that if and when played will cause unacceptable damage to Pak. I don't think the damage that is threatened will happen in a short period of time, but something like over a period of 10-15 years.

Does anyone remember 1990s when Pak raised HR violations by India in every forum of the world? Pak had some credibility. India was held responsible. India had to answer those accusations. But the intervening period has turned the tables. It hasn't been as dramatic and spectacular as how the B-Rakshaks want.

I am hoping that the next 10-15 years will further accelerate the trends.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 11 Jul 2009 18:56

SSridhar wrote:Gilani disapproves dance by female performer

You mean this Gilani?

sunilUpa · Post by **sunilUpa** » 11 Jul 2009 19:03

Now I am not making this up...vacuum bulb burst theory has come true.

Ionic Salt Lamps recalled after burn injuries

The recalled lamps can overheat, burn through the vinyl cord, and cause the lamp to burst. The three distributors recalling the lamps are located in Bannockburn, Illinois.

The lamps were made in Pakistan

Tilak · Post by **Tilak** » 11 Jul 2009 19:20

X-Posted :

**Must watch **

Aunty Naseem gets a thorough a** whooping from Baloch Students and resorts to "taking commercial breaks", especially from them women..

Video :Genocide in Balochistan

Policy Matters – 8th July 2009 39:32
Naseem Zehra beings a new episode of Policy Matters.
Duration: 39:32
Added: July 8, 2009
Views: 456
Added In: Policy Matters

Tags : Balochistan, 'Kashmir', Genocide, Pakjabi, Khan of Kalat, Education, Instrument of Accession , Nawab Bugti

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Jul 2009 20:11

If Pak is serious about tackling terror, India should respond: BJP

"If Pakistan is really serious in fighting terrorism, India should reciprocate," Mr. Rajnath told reporters.

We are concerned about 'terrorism directed against India'. Pakistan continues to employ a two-faced approach as far as tackling terrorism goes. After having sustained terrorism against India since 1947, mere statements of piety from a powerless President whose days in Presidency are numbered, cannot be taken on face value. It is timebound action that should matter to India and some pretty serious development should take place before July 14, and then on a sustained basis thereafter, before India should initiate and continue with the talks.

"Whether we like it or not, we are neighbours and we cannot change neighbours," the BJP president said.

These politicians should stop this well worn-out and useless cliche.

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 11 Jul 2009 20:37

SSridhar wrote:If Pak is serious about tackling terror, India should respond: BJP
"If Pakistan is really serious in fighting terrorism, India should reciprocate," Mr. Rajnath told reporters.
We are concerned about 'terrorism directed against India'. Pakistan continues to employ a two-faced approach as far as tackling terrorism goes. After having sustained terrorism against India since 1947, mere statements of piety from a powerless President whose days in Presidency are numbered, cannot be taken on face value. It is timebound action that should matter to India and some pretty serious development should take place before July 14, and then on a sustained basis thereafter, before India should initiate and continue with the talks.
"Whether we like it or not, we are neighbours and we cannot change neighbours," the BJP president said.
These politicians should stop this well worn-out and useless cliche.

The BJP lost the election under under this "president".

Not happy with the damage he has done, he is now poking his unwelcome nose into Indo pak affairs?

With friends like rajnath singh, India does not need enemies.

If the porkis are serious about tackling terror, the whole of India will know, not just rajnath.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 11 Jul 2009 21:22

anupmisra wrote:
Guddu wrote:Anyone know the credibility of Farzana Shah, the author of above link..looks like her imagination has gone wild.
Ms. Shah is the same as Jana on the Pooki Deaf & Dumb show. A frustrated hag who addresses all porki posters as "dear". Also, a rabid (as in dog-bitten) anti-India and anti-west flea bag.

Her avatar on the def&dumb forum is very unhag (new word) like!

kenop · Post by **kenop** » 11 Jul 2009 21:25

Reached this site while surfing
Paki site using .IN TLD
A response to this post about Rehman Malik

im sick and tired of this ‘gawars’ writing articles when they obviously dont know anything about anything at all…..by that i mean the writer of this article….fix ur grammer etc and then write man…its embarrassing for the country and this website….and secondly, you need to stop this vicious cirlce of ‘breaking peopel down’ out of jelousy….thats what is ruining this country…..

AoA onlee

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 11 Jul 2009 22:22

Tilak wrote:X-Posted :

**Must watch **

Aunty Naseem gets a thorough a.... ..Bugti

Awesome..highlight was Naseem's reaction over Baloch Kashmir comparison...alright..considering that Balochs have been and are still being tortured by pakjabis...this is the best time for them to give Islamabad a strong jolt in the A.. as paki forces are occupied with "bad" taliban and Indian forces..

I was wondering how ISI allowed such stuff to be aired

...somebody is on somebody's payroll...

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 11 Jul 2009 23:19

China supplies fake medicines claiming them to be made in India, and, now Munna follows in the same foot steps:

India rubbishes Pak media report on Taliban attack

New Delhi: The government today rubbished a Pakistani media report which claimed that six Indians had been killed in a terror attack in Afghanistan. Sources in the external affairs ministry said that no Indian was killed in any attack anywhere in Afghanistan.

"We checked up and found that this report is untrue," a source in the ministry said. Pakistan's Dawn News TV channel had last night claimed that six Indians were among 18 killed in an attack by Taliban in Paktia province of Afghanistan.

On earlier occasions too Pakistani media had issued such reports which India feels are part of malicious campaign to scare away Indians engaged in reconstruction and development works in Afghanistan.

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 12 Jul 2009 00:00

anupmisra wrote:
Guddu wrote:Anyone know the credibility of Farzana Shah, the author of above link..looks like her imagination has gone wild.
Ms. Shah is the same as Jana on the Pooki Deaf & Dumb show. A frustrated hag who addresses all porki posters as "dear". Also, a rabid (as in dog-bitten) anti-India and anti-west flea bag.

A once in a blue moon absurd article,contains all conspiracy theories that porks are told,.
,has no proofs and logic of what it says.
Such articles are expected from jholawalas,ndtv etc,.
It is interesting to find that these absurd punsters always unite for a common cause of absurdity, be it arundroy,jholawalas ,zz hamid or jana.

Now it is even more interesting insight 'into the pakistani mind'(e new thread on this ?) that a large number of pakistanis support such adsurdity,any misconception,any conspiracy theory about anything,!! but to prove every one else as wrong and them always martial ideals., .
So, such misporters (journalists,writers,who spread misconception amongst the common people) are always ready to gain(economically and publicity) from a large number of readers,who are ready to believe any such illogicality ,because that is what they are told to do ,to survive as different(not Indians) culture,country ,and to show the world that they are progressing on this way,to claim equal-equal,differentiation from India ...

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 12 Jul 2009 00:22

This is from Thursday TOI, probably was not posted.

Clear evidence Pakistan planned, launched 26/11: India
The Defence Ministry, in its annual report for 2008-09 released here today, said: "The terrorist attack on Mumbai in November 2008 and the clear evidence that the attack was planned and launched by Pakistan have thereafter led to a pause in the (peace) process" between New Delhi and Islamabad.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 Jul 2009 00:33

Now it is even more interesting insight 'into the pakistani mind'(e new thread on this ?) that a large number of pakistanis support such adsurdity,any misconception,any conspiracy theory about anything,!! but to prove every one else as wrong and them always martial ideals., .

Inbreeding. Too much of it. For several generations. Genes are now screwed up beyond hope. Farzana is indeed Jana of deff n dumb fame. And yes do check out the thread on inbreeding id u can on deff, a revelation. All of them inbreed and are doing so with a vengeance for generations. Bad genes. Natural selection normally takes care of that, but in his instance, nature might expect other saner entities to do the Dharma.

AmitR · Post by **AmitR** » 12 Jul 2009 00:47

Tilak wrote:X-Posted :

**Must watch **

Aunty Naseem gets a thorough a** whooping from Baloch Students and resorts to "taking commercial breaks", especially from them women..

Video :Genocide in Balochistan
Policy Matters – 8th July 2009 39:32
Naseem Zehra beings a new episode of Policy Matters.
Duration: 39:32
Added: July 8, 2009
Views: 456
Added In: Policy Matters
Tags : Balochistan, 'Kashmir', Genocide, Pakjabi, Khan of Kalat, Education, Instrument of Accession , Nawab Bugti

This is simply mind blowing. I knew that Baloch were against the Pakjabis but had no idea that the hatred ran so deep. The historical facts as pointed out by the Baloach speakers are too strong and undeniable for any one to rubbish.
The most irritating part is that the host keeps on trying to hammer the point that Balochs are Pakistanis.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Jul 2009 00:52

AmitR wrote:
Naseem Zehra beings a new episode of Policy Matters.
This is simply mind blowing. I knew that Baloch were against the Pakjabis but had no idea that the hatred ran so deep. The historical facts as pointed out by the Baloach speakers are too strong and undeniable for any one to rubbish.
The most irritating part is that the host keeps on trying to hammer the point that Balochs are Pakistanis.

Balochi people are confident now since Americans are in Jacobabad and Quetta. THey must have sent feelers regarding the importance of Balochistan in the geo-strategic world.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 12 Jul 2009 00:56

Tilak wrote:X-Posted :

**Must watch **

Aunty Naseem gets a thorough a** whooping from Baloch Students and resorts to "taking commercial breaks", especially from them women..

Video :Genocide in Balochistan
Policy Matters – 8th July 2009 39:32
Naseem Zehra beings a new episode of Policy Matters.
Duration: 39:32
Added: July 8, 2009
Views: 456
Added In: Policy Matters
Tags : Balochistan, 'Kashmir', Genocide, Pakjabi, Khan of Kalat, Education, Instrument of Accession , Nawab Bugti

How did they air this programme! Explosive, in the puki context. The speakers point out their history, the torture of any and all educated baloch youngsters and their sheer hatred of the occupation by the porki TSPA.

Best of all is the female speaker ridiculing Naseem Zehra about her reaction towards equating Kashmir and Balochistan. "Jab Kashmir ki bath hui tho apka chehra ithna red hua.... "

Best of all is one speaker saying, "Well if we wanted to look at things in the religious perspective, we could've joined Iran or Afghanistan. They're as Islamic as the TISP"

bart · Post by **bart** » 12 Jul 2009 01:06

kenop wrote:Reached this site while surfing
Paki site using .IN TLD
A response to this post about Rehman Malik
im sick and tired of this ‘gawars’ writing articles when they obviously dont know anything about anything at all…..by that i mean the writer of this article….fix ur grammer etc and then write man…its embarrassing for the country and this website….and secondly, you need to stop this vicious cirlce of ‘breaking peopel down’ out of jelousy….thats what is ruining this country…..
AoA onlee

Nice grammar from a guy admonishing the writer to fix his grammar.

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 12 Jul 2009 01:08

Pak marines trained Kasab, says report

VinodTK · Post by **VinodTK** » 12 Jul 2009 01:13

Pak offers US deal with Taliban if it reins in India

Samay · Post by **Samay** » 12 Jul 2009 01:27

An article from Arshad Zaman
one more zaman of pakistan

BSR Murthy · Post by **BSR Murthy** » 12 Jul 2009 03:39

Another Insurgency Gains in Pakistan (NY Times)

...Baluch nationalists and some Pakistani politicians say the Baluch conflict holds the potential to break the country apart — Baluchistan makes up a third of Pakistan’s territory — unless the government urgently deals with years of pent up grievances and stays the hand of the military and security services...

...Schoolchildren still refuse to sing the national anthem at assemblies, instead breaking into a nationalist Baluch song championing the armed struggle for independence, teachers and parents said.

For the first time, women, traditionally secluded in Baluch society, have joined street protests against the continuing detentions of nationalist figures. Graffiti daubed on walls around this town call for independence and guerrilla war, which persists in large parts of the province....

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 12 Jul 2009 03:46

Samay wrote:An article from Arshad Zaman
one more zaman of pakistan

Even more interesting is the video link in the article by Zaman http://pkonweb.com/2009/05/07/live-with ... -tv-may-7/
Talat claims that the Fak-Ap transit MOU will benefit India, is a bilateral agreement between Fak-Ap, yet is being signed in USA. He asks what might be the reason that the US is involved in an agreement which will benefit India, yet the benefits to India were not publicised very much at all. My guess, this will be an alternate route to supply USforces in Fak-Ap land.

The Talat video, where the Mohtarma is so offensive to both Karzai and 10 % is revealing. If the americans are so condescending in public, can you imagine what happens behind closed doors. I guess the nutcracker is becoming an essential tool for Fak-Ap diplomacy.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 Jul 2009 03:58

Tilak wrote:X-Posted :

**Must watch **

Aunty Naseem gets a thorough a** whooping from Baloch Students and resorts to "taking commercial breaks", especially from them women..

Video :Genocide in Balochistan
Policy Matters – 8th July 2009 39:32
Naseem Zehra beings a new episode of Policy Matters.
Duration: 39:32
Added: July 8, 2009
Views: 456
Added In: Policy Matters
Tags : Balochistan, 'Kashmir', Genocide, Pakjabi, Khan of Kalat, Education, Instrument of Accession , Nawab Bugti

Awesome!!!! What's happening in TSP. I cannot beleive this video is allowed and this whole thing is for keeps and should become a link of the first post.

James B · Post by **James B** » 12 Jul 2009 04:48

No kaments

CalvinH · Post by **CalvinH** » 12 Jul 2009 05:43

Above..how is bilawal in the meeting ? what meeting is this in which 19 years old are allowed to participate in some capacity

archan · Post by **archan** » 12 Jul 2009 06:15

CalvinH wrote:Above..how is bilawal in the meeting ? what meeting is this in which 19 years old are allowed to participate in some capacity

Yuvraj is being groomed.

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 12 Jul 2009 07:17

CalvinH wrote:Above..how is bilawal in the meeting ? what meeting is this in which 19 years old are allowed to participate in some capacity

It probably was "bring your son to work" day!

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 12 Jul 2009 07:37

CalvinH wrote:Above..how is bilawal in the meeting ? what meeting is this in which 19 years old are allowed to participate in some capacity

you know its zamzam cola time, when you see that. in anycase, does anybody find the messiah (big O) a bit too predictable and unreal these days? i can almost predict what he is going to say next. his speeches remind me of the big banana speeches that RG used to give. all this talking to univ students and appeal to idealism is getting stale pretty fast.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 12 Jul 2009 11:15

VinodTK wrote:Pak offers US deal with Taliban if it reins in India

Isn't this what Musharraf offered the US after 9-11?

Pakistan is saying, "Leave us alone. Leave our Talibunnies alone. Fight with India for us, and we will try and get the Talibunnies to leave you alone and fight the Injuns who are bad"

The US might be tempted to agree - such were the noises coming out of articles just 3-4 months ago. But the Talibunnies - having lost a lot to the US are unlikely to be in the mood to agree. IMHO.

In fact I think the time is ripe to openly introduce a new factor into the war in Pakistan:

"We want Islam diluted. We want to change islam. We therefore ask the moderate Pakistani army and government to fight the Taliban to dilute the bad aspects in islam"

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Jul 2009 11:36

VinodTK wrote:Pak offers US deal with Taliban if it reins in India

If US falls for it, which is highly likely, it will be similar to the SEATO/CENTO/Mutual Defense Assistance Agreement of the 50s hoping Pakistan will fight the Commies whereas Pakistan fought with the world's largest democracy and finally sided with the Chinese.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 Jul 2009 12:13

With Pakistan coming out with conditionalities at India's expense, it is inevitable that Hussain and Hillary will crank up pressure on Kashmir. Seeing recent demographic changes in border aread of Bengal and Assam, i just wondered when did Kashmir become a Muslim majority state? Seeing how demographics have changed in the last 40-50 years, i wonder how much before 1947 did Kashmir flip to becoming Muslim majority?

anuj · Post by **anuj** » 12 Jul 2009 12:40

VinodTK wrote:Pak offers US deal with Taliban if it reins in India

the only thing that matters to the US are it's interests. everything it does are lines with those goals. if this deal gets the jihadi's off there backs then they'll do it. any hostility against india will be dusted off with mere condemnation.

we'll have to face the fact that were all alone in this fight and the US has always been with the pakis for "american interests" and anything out of the un-ordinary is onlee wishful thinking.

GWoT is an american myth. It's really a global war to protect american interests.

atma · Post by **atma** » 12 Jul 2009 12:42

A young Indian soul's view of Pakistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ8QSVvu ... ture=email

Warning; some religious rhetoric.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Jul 2009 12:52

Signals from a failing state: Book Review- Khaled Ahmed in DT

. . . He is alerted by yaksaniyat (uniformity) of thinking in a state where discord is the most threatening aspect of its failing health, a kind of brainwash absorbed from the centres of power within the state that patronise you only if you mouth their shibboleths. Hatred of America, hatred of India, and a kind of blind faith in the muslimhood of the Taliban

He thinks the fall of Peshawar to the domination of the terrorists is clearly indicated by the free run the Taliban have on the NATO trucks that pass through Peshawar to Torkham border in the Khyber Agency. The frequency with which these trucks are blown up and looted by the Taliban tells us how Peshawar has been ‘taken’; and if Peshawar is taken then one can imagine that a takeover of Islamabad would be the next easy step. Those who think that in case there is another Indo-Pak war the Taliban will stand with the Pakistan Army may be favouring a Taliban takeover of Islamabad as well. is what this uniformity relies on for growth.

In fact Islamabad is partly convinced that NATO presence in Afghanistan is against the interests of Pakistan and therefore the trucks for which Islamabad receives a hefty fee from the US are being targeted and looted freely by the Taliban.{So, the Pakistani State is abetting the Talibani looters}And when Islamabad realised that one billion dollars on account of the trucks were still outstanding from the US it must have realised that the stuck ‘truck money’ could be the American message for the free run on trucks that was allowed in Peshawar. The Americans lost nothing; we lost Peshawar.

. . . . why are Pakistanis using religion to vent their aggression till religion itself starts looking an evil inspiration to the world outside?