India-China News and Discussion

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 23 Aug 2009 14:05

Serious question Liu

What is your opinion, and the Chinese opinion on Islam?

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 23 Aug 2009 14:11

vaman wrote:Serious question Liu

What is your opinion, and the Chinese opinion on Islam?

personally speaking, I dislike Islam.

if Islam were not to experience a radical revolution or reform as protestant reformation during 16th century. Islam world would be marginalized further.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 23 Aug 2009 14:21

have you seen its websites in chinese?

I can see them, but unfortunately i cannot read them. I read the English version, and it seems good to me. I know you cannot open it from there, but what do you think they say there?

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 23 Aug 2009 14:26

harbans wrote:have you seen its websites in chinese?

I can see them, but unfortunately i cannot read them. I read the English version, and it seems good to me. I know you cannot open it from there, but what do you think they say there?

I managed to view its website by proxy.
besides, Fa Lungong always like hawking its news by email.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Aug 2009 14:35

What exactly about Falun Gong causes the Chinese so much trouble?

CPC tells 10 times more lies that Falun Gong ever will, I dont see Chinese dislinking CPC.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 23 Aug 2009 14:40

I managed to view its website by proxy.

Did you read the organ harvesting article ?? How do you know CCP people are not watching you watch falun gong by proxy??

besides, Fa Lungong always like hawking its news by email.

You know, i get spammed by people who want to sell me Feng Shui. But the original protagonists of Feng Shui are not the spammers. It's people who make a business selling it. I don't blame or dislike Fefng Shui because of spamming. So there might be people who like to conduct classes in Falun Gong and earn a living..they are the ones that are likely to indulge in spamming. Lots of organizations do spamming. It's not a black mark on Falun Gong by itself.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 23 Aug 2009 14:47

Liu, do the Chinese people, in general dislike Islam? how does Islam compare with falungong in the eyes of the chinese people

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 23 Aug 2009 14:49

Sanku wrote:What exactly about Falun Gong causes the Chinese so much trouble?

CPC tells 10 times more lies that Falun Gong ever will, I dont see Chinese dislinking CPC.

as for lie, CPC and Falun gong are cousins.however, CPC does know how to develope china, but Falun gong does not know it.

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 23 Aug 2009 15:04

vaman wrote:Liu, do the Chinese people, in general dislike Islam? how does Islam compare with falungong in the eyes of the chinese people

quite different.

Falun gong is something like box news on the paper of Sun while Islam is the verbalism on CPC's CCTV.

Islam did have its glory during m-age, however it now becomes outdated,just as Marxism does.

today ,Islam would go into a dead end,if no religion reform were to start.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 23 Aug 2009 15:07

Liu wrote:CPC does know how to develope china, but Falun gong does not know it.

If you don't want to go to jail in China, you better know how to develop China, and have at least had credit for one or two skyscrapers.

Anything less than that, Go directly to Jail, Don't pass GO, Don't collect $200.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 23 Aug 2009 18:05

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Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Aug 2009 18:18

Liu wrote:
Sanku wrote:What exactly about Falun Gong causes the Chinese so much trouble?

CPC tells 10 times more lies that Falun Gong ever will, I dont see Chinese dislinking CPC.
as for lie, CPC and Falun gong are cousins.however, CPC does know how to develope china, but Falun gong does not know it.

How do you know, have you given them a chance? And is your stand that it is ok to lie as long as you get moolah?

Oh sorry I forgot you have already said it is -- dont bother answering that.

No wonder you hate falun gong. You hate any one who thinks there is more to human existence than bestial rape of earth, humans and everything else to buy cheap trinkets.

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 23 Aug 2009 19:36

Sanku wrote:[quote="Liu]
as for lie, CPC and Falun gong are cousins.however, CPC does know how to develope china, but Falun gong does not know it.

How do you know, have you given them a chance? And is your stand that it is ok to lie as long as you get moolah?

Oh sorry I forgot you have already said it is -- dont bother answering that.

No wonder you hate falun gong. You hate any one who thinks there is more to human existence than bestial rape of earth, humans and everything else to buy cheap trinkets.[/quote][/quote]

would you give sexy girls on the Sun a chance to rule you country?

Falun Gong is just like sexy girls like Jordon in the eyes of most CHinese.

Yogi_G · Post by **Yogi_G** » 23 Aug 2009 19:41

Liu wrote: Falun Gong is just like sexy girls like Jordon in the eyes of most CHinese.

Chinese are ahead of Indians in fetish also, no hope for SDREs onleee, ayyo

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 23 Aug 2009 19:55

would you give sexy girls on the Sun a chance to rule you country?

And why not? They just have to open a party and win an election. Sexy gals can then rule our country. Being sexy is no bar for ruling India.

Winning elections and popular support is the bar. Not being sexy.

PS: Elections: This is not to be read as N3 type chinglish

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 23 Aug 2009 20:04

harbans wrote:would you give sexy girls on the Sun a chance to rule you country?

And why not? They just have to open a party and win an election. Sexy gals can then rule our country. Being sexy is no bar for ruling India.

to list Falun gong in the same league of Confucian and Taosim is as amusing and absurd as to list sexy girls on Sun in the same league of geat men like Washington and Lincoln.

munna · Post by **munna** » 23 Aug 2009 20:09

Liu wrote:to list Falun gong in the same league of Confucian and Taosim is as amusing and absurd as to list sexy girls on Sun in the same league of geat men like Washington and Lincoln.

Liu it would greatly help if you could list actuals and not merely follow a policy of spit and run. Merely calling them names and denouncing Falun Gong like a party apparatchik would not cut it on this forum. If you have enough ammo against Falun Gong then please list it here otherwise the use of sneaky lines and reference to some obscure cults way back in the past to justify human rights violation of today is a lot of hot air and CCP propaganda and nothing else.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 23 Aug 2009 20:16

to list Falun gong in the same league of Confucian and Taosim is as amusing and absurd as to list sexy girls on Sun in the same league of geat men like Washington and Lincoln.

A ) If Confucious or Tao were propagating at the same time as Falun Gong came along, their followers too would be subject to organ transplant by the CCP.

B ) What makes you think only ugly and old men can come out with philosophical or political wisdom? Why Playboy centerfolds could also be political or philosophical genius's or run for Presidency. And there are many many models and sexy girls who have made a mark in every field apart from just being models or being just sexy. But you need to grow up in a democracy and unbiased thinking atmosphere to realize you're being biased against sexy girls.

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 23 Aug 2009 20:48

I will vote for sexy gurlz party, are they contesting? In fact most people say congress won best when they had sexy gals in the front lines...

So here's the deal, we give chance for a fair democratic vote to sexy girls party and China to Falun Gong, if China rejects them -- hey no skin of my nose, dumb unfit chinese not in harmony with themselves is hardly a problem for me.

RayC · Post by **RayC** » 23 Aug 2009 21:49

Liu wrote: well, CCP is always aburd....but anyhow, I would rather CCP to be "a road runner of Capitalism and the US way of life" than a communist!

as for Hutong, I also like to watch Hutong as tourist,but I don't like to be a "dweller in Hutong",just like " a anminal of living museum"

My State has been governed by Communists for the last 26 years.

The common man seems to be satisfied or else it could not have lasted for 26 years.

They have become, to use the quaint Chinese Communist phrase - road runners of the Capitalists.

My personal take is that they are not here nor there and so these roadrunners in my State are losing out.

That apart, my question is - is this type of a situation that is also in China wherein they are discarding Communism for Capitalism not causing social, demographic (since the hokuo system and the danwei system is being discarded by most in their pursuit of the Capitalist dream)problems? If so, how is China addressing these issues?

Sanku · Post by **Sanku** » 24 Aug 2009 00:03

Liu wrote:
Sanku wrote:I will vote for sexy gurlz party, are they contesting? In fact most people say congress won best when they had sexy gals in the front lines...

So here's the deal, we give chance for a fair democratic vote to sexy girls party and China to Falun Gong, if China rejects them -- hey no skin of my nose, dumb unfit chinese not in harmony with themselves is hardly a problem for me.
well, in fact, I think the sexy girls in sun might do better than your corrupted congressmen......

So its deal right, you and your other country men will stop the ad hominem abuse of Falun Gong (and other culture people) now and give them a chance instead of frothing at the mouth like a demented low life whenever the name is mentioned, after all Falun Gong are such like Sun Gurlz that no one in China will vote for them or follow them?

No one is UK or the rest of the world is afraid of Page 3 off the Sun, are the Chinese such cowards that you are afraid of Falun Gong (which is no better than the Sun Girls)

No wonder all you can think of is bullying others and getting bullied, you have been treated as such low lifes for 200 years (Japanese, Brits and CPC) that there is nothing else left in you.

Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 24 Aug 2009 01:35

Liu,

You seem to dislike Islam, Falun Gong, Maoism, Lenin and everything else on this planet...basically you are confused, disturbed and you live in your own bubble. Please re-read posts by Harbans, apart from your cock and bull stories spitfire, Truthfulness, Benevolence and Forbearance are the highest human values that any human being can ever practice through out his/her life time. This will only develop an individual as a Self with an intense and unwavering efforts. That has nothing to do with the growth of China or any other country unless they are radical and extreme. It is disgrace that Chinese leaders suppress people with peaceful values(read Tibet, Falun Gong) and people like you don't show a pinch of compassion and name it as a fight/struggle. The organ business article is really disturbing. Atleast feel sorry for the victims Liu. Not a single post from you being apologetic towards those people. It is not world's media demonizing China, it is that barbaric attitude of your leaders which is demonizing China.

And your post regarding putting Falun Gong in the league of Confucianism, Taoism and Budhism...Oh My MaoMao....did that irk you?? you are talking as if you and your leaders believe and endorse the latter three?? They all convey the same message lady--Moral Values, Self Discovery and Peace (both internal and external)...point is modern Chinese like you are so misguided and "brain-transplanted" that no philosophical approach will ever look good to you...your government has successfully maintained that "broken and confused mental state" of most modern Chinese citizens.

Though your name seem to be "flowing", your knowledge isn't "flowing"....its stagnated and getting more and more self-destructive. I know and I wouldn't be surprised that you'd respond to my(our) post(s) by few silly smileys and 1 or 2 liners without any logical reasoning. That is how mentally and morally weak people respond to genuine points. If this was a face-to-face conversation, you'd probably use force and manhandle me like a typical disturbed brainwashed person with no words coming out addressing the matter logically. That is sooo "Insecure". While I wish for a stable and strong China, leaders and people with such mindset are a threat to weak and innocent people.

I am thankful enough that my Han friends are open minded and accept whats right and whats wrong upfront. I hope leaders and general diaspora of China adopt an open minded approach towards development and betterment of China.

NRao · Post by **NRao** » 24 Aug 2009 06:46

Only News and discussions please.

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Venkarl · Post by **Venkarl** » 25 Aug 2009 11:47

Everytime I post something....I wonder why there is a long pause and then to trash can

Pranav · Post by **Pranav** » 25 Aug 2009 17:11

As regards Falun Gong: Actually one does need to be wary of even religious organizations. Consider, for example, the nexus between Church organizations and the LTTE, the Nepalese Maoists, and the Indian Maoists.

I don't know whether Falun Gong has any subversive functions. But China has to be commended because they know how to attain, preserve, and exercise political power. China is an independent political power on the world stage. The comparison with India is stark - there is very credible information that Sonia Gandhi was an asset of foreign intelligence agencies, and most Indians are blissfully unaware. Many Indians are very naive in terms of the hard realities of international political power - for example, many of us happily trust whatever election result is given by EVMs. Indians need to learn from China in this regard.

Liu · Post by **Liu** » 25 Aug 2009 17:30

Pranav wrote:As regards Falun Gong: Actually one does need to be wary of even religious organizations. Consider, for example, the nexus between Church organizations and the LTTE, the Nepalese Maoists, and the Indian Maoists.

I don't know whether Falun Gong has any subversive functions. But China has to be commended because they know how to attain, preserve, and exercise political power. China is an independent political power on the world stage. The comparison with India is stark - there is very credible information that Sonia Gandhi was an asset of foreign intelligence agencies, and most Indians are blissfully unaware. Many Indians are very naive in terms of the hard realities of international political power - for example, many of us happily trust whatever election result is given by EVMs. Indians need to learn from China in this regard.

Falun Gong is the modern version of "yellow Headband" or "Red Headband".
If I were the head of CPC,I would also not hesitate to suppress Falun Gong ,either.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 25 Aug 2009 17:33

Pranav ji,

In this regard India need not learn anything from China.

What India needs to do is write down the terms and conditions for the behavior of the religious communities in India. Going ahead and banning all religious activity is useless, and takes away the strength of the Indic civilization, where we were a fountainhead of spiritual thought.