Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 26 Aug 2009 18:16

Pakistan Railways debt piles up to Rs56bn
Next time there is a protest against YYY, the mujs should beautify the remaining trains. Because what does not exist cannot create more debt. Btw did 7th century arabs ever use trains? Bakistan needs to do away with all these haraam practices to progress.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 26 Aug 2009 18:25

Interpol seeks Pakistani militant wanted in India

NEW DELHI, Aug 26 (Reuters) - The international police agency Interpol has issued a "red notice" alert for a Pakistani Islamist wanted in India in connection with attacks in Mumbai that strained relations between the nuclear-armed rivals.

Interpol says a red notice is not an international arrest warrant but is issued after authorities in a country issue a warrant to help with the identification or location of a suspect with a view to their arrest or extradition.

Instead of running to toothless organisations like Interpol, S.M.Krishnas should try giving supari to Hafiz Saeed with Dawood Bhai. That sounds more possible than this red-korner bull $hit.

India's foreign minister, S.M. Krishna said the world had to take notice of the Interpol alert against Saeed.

"I think the world should take note of these developments and then you know they will have to come to their own conclusions," Krishna told reporters on Wednesday.

Dear Sir, the world has already taken notice of these developments and will come to their own conclusions, once they stop ROFLAO at us.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 26 Aug 2009 18:33

Pak court releases Sufi's three sons for lack of evidence

A Pakistani court on Wednesday ordered the release from detention of three sons of hardline cleric Sufi Mohammad, who was arrested last month for his links to the Taliban in Swat, saying the authorities failed to provide 'sufficient proof' of their involvement in acts of terrorism.

The Peshawar High Court accepted a petition from Mohammad's sons – Rizwanullah, Hayatullah, and Ziaullah – challenging their detention.

Business as usual.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 26 Aug 2009 18:44

Dear Sir, the world has already taken notice of these developments and will come to their own conclusions, once they stop ROFLAO at us.

Huh? Did you naat know US went after Osama and Mullah Omar and Saddam aphter issue of praaper Red corner alert notices only? /Sarc off/ These stupid bureacratic types, lived a life looking down on people are so obligated to 'procedure' they cannot see they are making a laughing stock of all of us.

This guy should be saying that what is the use of a Red Alert notice if they hold no value to nations like Pakistan? Anyone issued such a notice should be obliged to be presented at the minimum to the ICJ..if not to the country demanding him or her..

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 26 Aug 2009 19:24

Careless neglect? ---- letters

Wednesday, August 26, 2009

Fahad Rafique Dogar's letter titled "Careless neglect?" (Aug 24) reveals that even someone like Dr A Q Khan is susceptible to plagiarism. In fact it is ironic that just a few days ago, Dr Khan had criticised Gopichand Narang who was himself accused of plagiarism in his writings. But now Dr Khan himself has been found doing the very same thing -- copying paragraphs from the work of others and not attributing them to their original source.

T Mansoor

Islamabad
*****

With reference to Fahad Rafique Dogar's letter titled 'Careless neglect?' on Dr A Q Khan's article of Aug 19, I went on the websites that he gave and independently checked them -- and they were all correct. However, this does not come as a surprise as many people are of the opinion that Dr Khan had copied the plans for the atomic bomb from another source.

Mishal Tariq

Kinnaird College,

Lahore

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 26 Aug 2009 19:27

Jaswant Singh’s visit to Pakistan postponed

NEW DELHI: The visit of former Indian foreign minister Jaswant Singh to Pakistan has been postponed and he is expected to pay the visit after Ramazan.

According to a private TV channel's report on Wednesday, the visit of former Indian foreign minister, which was due on Friday has been postponed due to security arrangements.

The former external affairs minister, whose three-decade long membership of the Bharatiya Janata Party ended abruptly last week with the launch of his Jinnah: India-Partition-Independence was to sign copies of the book at a leading bookshop in Islamabad and had a speaking engagement before he moves on to Karachi for another promotion gig at the weekend.

It is being said that there could be two reasons of postponement, India had sought a report from the Pakistani high commissioner regarding Jaswant Singh's security arrangements which was not answered, the other is that Jaswant did not apply for a Pakistani visa.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 26 Aug 2009 19:30

Marines not coming under cover of embassy expansion

ISLAMABAD: Federal Interior Minster Rehman Malik has said the arrival of US marines is not part of the expansion of US embassy in Islamabad.

Talking to a private TV channel, the interior minister said that the US embassy has the same strength, however, some US officials do come in the country for going to Afghanistan as US is fighting there but they are just officials.

He said that the US embassy applied for expansion aimed to construct extra houses and playgrounds and Capital Development Authority (CDA) after examining their request gave land according to rules and regulations and they paid for it.

On reports of establishment of office of US agency BlackWater in Peshawar and its planning to conduct operations, the minister said that US goods go to Kabul via Pakistan and the government charges on these goods under an agreement and the US authorities can hire agencies to protect their goods, it is the part of that agreement.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 26 Aug 2009 19:37

pgbhat wrote:Marines not coming under cover of embassy expansion
the minister said that US goods go to Kabul via Pakistan and the government charges on these goods under an agreement and the US authorities can hire agencies to protect their goods, it is the part of that agreement.[/b]

Yes, these agencies have to be stationed here for the protection of American goods in transit to Kabul. Of course, once stationed, these gentlemen also need to look after their needs. It was only under these pressures of work, that the 3 SSG commandos and 11 Motorhamas were raped last week. We are looking into this. We will be providing the Blackwater operatives with alternate means of entertainment and destressing.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 26 Aug 2009 20:40

Pakistan urges aid to be released

Pakistan has urged donor countries to release billions of dollars in promised aid to help the country rebuild after an army offensive against the Taliban.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi was speaking at a meeting of international donors in Turkey.

Harsha.H.D · Post by **Harsha.H.D** » 26 Aug 2009 21:26

RPT-ANALYSIS-Can Pukes take on the pigLeT's?

"If they wanted to shut them down they could," said B. Raman, a former Additional Secretary at India's Research and Analysis Wing (R&AW) intelligence agency. "They can do it, but they don't want to do it because they look upon it as a strategic asset."

But Samina Yasmeen, a professor at the University of Western Australia who is researching a book on the Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), said the reality on the ground may be more complicated.

"There are elements within the Lashkar that are not under the control of the army anymore. They really moved on a trajectory that people did not expect," she said. "After 9/11 there was a section that emerged within the Lashkar that may not be under the control of the Lashkar leadership."

He (Prime Minister Manmohan Singh) seems to have won support in the West, where the LeT is seen as potentially as big a danger as al Qaeda. "I think we have to regard the Lashkar-e-Taiba as much a threat to us as any other part of the al Qaeda system," said Riedel.

According to Raman, the LeT is the biggest militant group in Pakistan, with a larger presence even than the Taliban, and a charitable wing, the Jamaat ud-Dawa, which rather like Hamas in Gaza also carries out humanitarian work.

CAPABILITY AND WILLINGNESS

For security analysts, the two questions are whether the army and ISI can close down the LeT, and if they want to do so -- the assumption being that this would have to be done by the country's powerful military rather than the civilian government.

Riedel said he believed the capability was there.

He acknowledged that taking on the LeT -- which is based in Punjab province, the main recruiting ground for the army -- would be hard. "They are Punjabis. You are taking on the same constituencies from which the Pakistan Army and the ISI draw their own core supporters," he said, adding that you could probably find officers with cousins in the LeT.

November's Mumbai attacks, which killed 166 people, offered hints about splits either within the ISI or the LeT -- for the first time Jews and westerners were targeted, risking an American backlash.

Raman said for this reason he was not convinced the ISI as an institution -- as opposed to individual officers -- had ordered the attacks.

"I've not seen any convincing evidence to show that the ISI as an institution gave the order," he said. "They would have seen to it that they did not attack westerners."

The distinction is important since the ISI as an institution would be unlikely to take action without backing from the army -- whose chief General Ashfaq Kayani was formerly the ISI head.

But giving up the LeT, seen as a "force multiplier" in the event of an invasion by India -- rather like citizens trained in civil defence -- would be another step altogether.

Would the army chief turn against the LeT?

"My sense of Kayani is that he is very pragmatic. He hasn't accepted that India is not a threat to Pakistan," said Yasmeen. "From Kayani's point of view, does he want to deny himself the possibility of using all trained and semi-trained people?"

That question returns to the Catch 22 of India-Pakistan relations. Without peace, Pakistan may never fully turn against the LeT. And India will not offer peace talks until it does so.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 26 Aug 2009 22:49

To shave or not to shave in Pakistan’s Swat Valley

Phyza Jameel is a Pakistani journalist and the bureau chief of CNBC-Pakistan in Lahore, writing at the “Frontline Blog.”

“He has an appointment with you; he has come from Swat,” my assistant informed me. I was confused; I had a meeting scheduled with Sarmad Behzaad, one of my dedicated news sources from the Swat region.

“Send him in,” I told my assistant. He sat down and started with the usual polite greetings in the Swati Urdu accent. This was Sarmad. “My God,” I said, “You look so different.”

I had met Sarmad some six months back. Then, a cluster of thick hair hung on his face, a beard from which it was difficult to locate his mouth and nose. “How did this happen?” I asked.

Sarmad smirked and said, “We had been forced to grow beards because of the strong Taliban influence. All the barbershops were closed and clean-shaven men were intimidated by them, so we all had to grow beards.”

“Did you shave when the Taliban left?” I asked.

“No, it wasn’t that the Taliban went away and we shaved — actually we were now used to it — but recently, having a beard has become more of a problem. Now that the security forces have taken control, they are suspecting every bearded man as being part of the Taliban

. It was so much hassle that I had to let it go.”

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As Sarmad states, “ To keep a beard or not to keep beard — it’s not a personal choice in Swat; it’s directly related to the ruling agenda in the region.”

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 26 Aug 2009 23:31

Pakistan’s cry for water (Reuters)

Pakistan is running out of water so fast that the shortage will strangulate all water-based economic activity by 2015, a Pakistani thinktank says. And that pretty much covers 70 percent of the population who are involved in farming.

In 10 years time, it will become a water-famine country.

Among the 25 most populous countries, South Africa, Egypt and Pakistan are the most water-limited nations, that study said. According to the World Bank data, Pakistan only stores 30 days of river water, India stores 120 days, while the Colorado river system in the U.S. has storage capacity of up to 900 days of water usage.

Paksitan needs to conserve its water, use it more wisely and set up new reservoirs on an urgent basis, the South Asia Investor says. Or else the threat posed to the nation’s stability by the battle for water may yet turn out be just as serious as the militants trying to take control.

AOA! Pakistanis will become desert loving Arabs in another 10 years! But why is the author worried about this blessed development?

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 26 Aug 2009 23:39

Pakistan: Christian want blasphemy laws repealed (Spero)

The National Commission for Justice and Peace (NCJP), a human rights body of the Catholic Church in Pakistan, has started collecting signatures in support of repealing the controversial blasphemy laws (especially Sections 295-B, C and 298-A, B and C of the Pakistan Penal Code), which have been widely misused against religious minorities (mainly against Christians and Ahmadis) in Pakistan.

IOW, Christians in Pakistan are demanding the right to commit blasphemy? No pious muslim residing in the great Islamic nation of Pakistan can see logic in such a haram demand. What has the world come to? Ya Allah...

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 26 Aug 2009 23:49

Pakistan prepares 5-year plan for IDPs reconstruction (Xinhua)

ISLAMABAD, Aug. 25 (Xinhua) -- The Pakistani government has prepared a five-year plan for the reconstruction and rehabilitation of the internally displaced persons (IDPs) in the country's militancy-hit northwest, the official APP news agency reported Tuesday.

"We are generating our own resources but if international community wants to help us we will welcome it," he said.

IOW, Pakistan prepares 5-year plan for begging in international forums. Quoting from my last conversation with Kiyani on a golf-course in a land far, far away from FATA...

Kiyani said and Rahul Shukla wrote:IDP's... we can always create some more IDP's if we run short of forex and foreign investment. AOA!

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 26 Aug 2009 23:59

U.S. helicopters violate Pakistan's airspace: report (Xinhua)

ISLAMABAD, Aug. 24 (Xinhua) -- United States gunship helicopters Monday violated the international border and intruded into Pakistani territory, official sources said.

Sources told the local NNI news agency that the helicopters entered northwest Pakistani airspace at 0835 GMT at Khyber tribal region. The gunship helicopters crossed into Pakistani air space for a kilometer, flying for five minutes and went back to Afghanistan, officials said.

The unexpected intrusion by U.S. helicopters spread fear among the local residents...

No good deed by kafirs is rewarded in Pakistan. The IDP's are suffering from electricity shortage in their villages. Moved by their suffering, Uncle Sam sends in a chopper to act as a hovering fan so the peace loving residents of FATA can fall asleep. But the residents complain about the noise and send it back...

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 27 Aug 2009 01:49

PML-N urges Altaf to return home, face courts

By our correspondent

LAHORE: Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) leader Siddiqul Farooq has warned the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) to stop character assassination of their Quaid Mian Nawaz Sharif or they will also disclose sensitive matters and secrets about them.

Addressing a press briefing here on Tuesday, he said the 1992 military operation in Karachi and Hyderabad was launched with the consent of MQM Quaid Altaf Hussain at a time when it was part of the provincial government.

He claimed the then-Army chief Gen Asif Nawaz Janjua had launched the military operation without getting approval from Mian Nawaz Sharif, the then-prime minister. He claimed Mian Nawaz Sharif had directed the Army to launch an operation against dacoits in Sindh but Altaf Hussain, with the collusion of the then corps commander Gen Nasir Akhtar, had got this operation extended to the urban areas of Sindh.

The basic objective behind this was to get rid of opponents of the MQM from its ranks, he stated and claimed Altaf Hussain had also provided a list of 89 persons to the military personnel.

He said incidents like kidnapping and torturing of Maj Kaleem on the orders of Altaf Hussain and unearthing of torture cells at Nine Zero led Altaf Hussain to settle the issue with Gen Asif Nawaz in London. He said Altaf Hussain afterwards sought citizenship from the British government and had given a statement while leaving Pakistan that he intended to quit politics for good. He said the Sindh High Court had issued notices to Altaf Hussain, Pervez Musharraf and Wasim Akhtar on the May 12 mayhem in Karachi.
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BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 27 Aug 2009 01:56

Posting in full. The articles has some juicy details on how the 1990 elections were rigged by ISI and TSPA.

Chief politicians embezzle donation money in Ishaq era

Updated at: 0100 PST, Thursday, August 27, 2009
KARACHI: According to the sworn undertaking of ISI’s former chief Lieutenant General (rtd) Asad Durrani, which he took before Supreme Court (SC) on July 24, 1994, that he was instructed in September 1990 by the then Chief of Army Staff (COAS), the former General Mirza Aslam Baig for provision of Logistic Support to embezzle money donated for election preparations from some Karachi traders and use the same donation money for Islami Jamhuri Ittehad (IJI) party.

Asad Durrani was told that the instructions to misappropriate donation money were backed by the then government of Pakistan, according to his affidavit statement before SC.

Subsequently, in pursuit of the instructions he received, he was forced to open some fake bank accounts in Karachi, Quetta and Rawalpindi while one donator from Karachi, by the name Younis Habib, deposited as much as 140 million rupees and the money from all accounts were transferred to other places according to the need for extension of logistic support to IJI party while the remaining money was transferred to a special fund, his sworn statement added.

His statement further added, Rs10 million were given to Mir Afzal in NWFP province, Rs3.5 million to Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif in Punjab, Rs5.6 million to Lieutenant General (rtd) Rafaqat for advertisement on media, Rs5 million to Jamat-e-Islami, Rs1 million to Begum Abida Hussain, Rs0.5 million to Altaf Hussain Qureshi and Mustafa Sadiq, Rs3.3 million to small groups, Rs5 million to Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi in Sindh, Rs5 million to Jam Sadiq, Rs2.5 million to Muhammad Khan Junejo, Rs2 million to Pir Pagara, Rs0.3 million to Molana Salahuddin, Rs5.4 million to small parties, Rs1.5 million to Humayun Muree, the son-in-law of Bugti, Rs4 million to Jamali, Rs1 million to Kakar, Rs0.7 million to Jam Yousuf, Rs0.5 million Bazinjo and Rs1 million were given to Nadir Mengal.

It is pertinent to mention that the value in rupees of 12 grams of gold was Rs33 at the time when money was misappropriated while it stands at Rs29,000 today.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 27 Aug 2009 02:15

TSP finds new ways to get money from Unkil. If threats and Gubo are not effective any more then how about pricking unkil's conscience.
US should pay $300m for trade promotion in NWFP: SCCI

Wednesday, August 26, 2009
By our correspondent

PESHAWAR: Vice President Sarhad Chamber of Commerce and Industry (SCCI) Mohammad Ishaq has said that the US should pay $300 million to $400 million to Pakistan for the promotion of trade and industry in the NWFP.

In a press release issued on Tuesday, he said the federal government should declare NWFP a tax-free province for 15 years as the province has suffered a lot due to the war on terror.

He was talking to a delegation of Empower Pakistan Trade, Islamabad here. Former presidents of SCCI, Rodrigo Ortiz and Geoffery Wright from Delioitte US, Ghulam Akbar Populzai, newly-elected president of SCCI and others were present at the occasion.

Addressing the gathering, Mohammad Ishaq said the business community of the province had been paying an enormous price for the last 30 years as a result of the US war on terror.

“It is now the responsibility of the US to help our province and to promote industrial and economic advancement,” he said.

RajeshA · Post by **RajeshA** » 27 Aug 2009 02:22

BijuShet wrote:TSP finds new ways to get money from Unkil. If threats and Gubo are not effective any more then how about pricking unkil's conscience.

Nobody can fault them for not having a unique business model, and a successful one at that too.

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 27 Aug 2009 02:36

Xposted from the Partition dhaga

BijuShet wrote:Posted in Full from a TSP newspaper Opinion article by Ahmed Quraishi who works for Geo TV. No Comments.
'Pak-nationalism'
Wednesday, August 26, 2009
Ahmed Quraishi

While we should thank India's former foreign minister for his courage in praising Mr Jinnah, we should stop behaving as if we are seeking validation and vindication. Mr Jaswant Singh's book is not a Pakistani victory. It is a sincere attempt by an Indian citizen to probe what is commonly known as partition, which itself is based on the false notion that a sovereign India was wrongly divided. For us in Pakistan, we should realise that our independence – and not "partition" – is steeped in both modern and old histories and requires no explanation.

Pakistani intellectuals continue to be afflicted with low self-esteem that prevents them from fashioning an interpretation of history supportive of the idea of Pakistani nationalism. In this, our intellectuals are far behind the thinkers in Israel, for example, who achieved the impossible by reviving a 2,000-year-old dead language to gel a nation of diverse peoples.

Our politicians and thinkers failed to make something out of Pakistan in the past six decades mainly because of the lack of pride that comes from a sense of being, a sense of destiny, a sense of history. This discussion is important because we have seen brazen attempts during the last two years, especially in the US media, to promote the idea of Pakistan's balkanisation.

Finding a nationalistic motivation, a sort of 'Pak-nationalism' -- is essential.

The first thing Pakistanis need to know is that Pakistan was destined to happen. Mr Jinnah made it happen through his sheer brilliance because he was there. But Pakistan was going to happen anyway, in some shape or form and at an opportune time, because of the force of history. Pakistan was not a historical coincidence that the common historical version suggests and which Mr Singh reinforced. There is no coincidence in the fact that a quarter of a century before Quaid-e-Azam's rise, a poet who wore a Turkish tarboosh (hat) and wrote Persian poetry predicted such a country. Pakistan's rise came exactly 90 years after the formal fall of the Mughal Empire, Pakistan's predecessor, which was the only India the world had known for centuries. Except for that 90-year-long gap, Pakistan had existed in several shapes and forms, and for at least ten centuries.

Our Indian friends have the right to debate the question of India's supposed division. But today's India, born in 1947, was never divided or partitioned. It is a historical fallacy to think that Pakistan was ever part of any united and sovereign Indian state. The only thing that was divided in 1947 was a British colony that, in turn, was based on a defunct Muslim empire. The Indian grievance about the "partition" that is at the core of Indian animosity toward Pakistan is without base.

What is more surprising is how Pakistan's intellectuals were drawn by Mr Singh's book to conclude that Pakistan's founding father was an "Indian nationalist" who did not want Pakistan as a first choice. This is incorrect, because it negates the force of history that favoured Pakistan. Tens of millions of people wanted to be future Pakistani citizens before the country even existed. The leadership of Mr Jinnah was an instrument, not the cause.

Sixty-two years later, Pakistanis shouldn't be discussing details. We know there was a Pakistan independence movement. We know it was anchored in history. We know that the fourth and fifth generations of today's Pakistanis are more integrated than ever.

This is the reality of Mr Jinnah's 'Pak-nationalism'. And this is the only thing that matters.

The writer works for Geo TV. Email: [email protected]

BijuShet · Post by **BijuShet** » 27 Aug 2009 03:18

More skeletons coming out of the TSP closet. Posting in full from TSP newspaper article.
Who is behind the ‘get Nawaz’ campaign?

Wednesday, August 26, 2009
By Ansar Abbasi

ISLAMABAD: The fact that Nawaz Sharif was once the establishment’s blue-eyed boy and that the creation of the IJI was the ISI’s work are well known and undeniable, but the general perception is that today he is being targeted to save Musharraf’s skin.

It is premature to say who is behind this ‘get Nawaz’ campaign to deter him from seeking Musharraf’s trial under Article 6 of the Constitution. Though the immediate suspect for many is the invisible, military-led establishment, there are indications of involvement of some key government players in this blame-game.

Brigadier (retd) Imtiaz, whose recent statements have created ripples and upset the PML-N and its chief, however, denied that he has been playing into the hands of the establishment or the government. He insists that he just had the urge to share with the nation past secrets, irrespective of who benefits and who is damaged politically because of his revelations.

Talking to this correspondent, Brig Imtiaz said that he is not part of any plan to save Musharraf from trial. “Instead, I am a strong advocate of holding Musharraf accountable for his crimes against Pakistan,” the former ISI spy of ‘midnight jackals’ fame and ex-director general of the Intelligence Bureau said.

Regarding the ‘midnight jackal’ operation, which was meant to manoeuvre a no-confidence against the Benazir Bhutto government, he said that he was once called by the then Army chief General Aslam Beg, who desired in-house change of the government arguing that the Army was facing problems from the government vis-a-vis the country’s nuclear programme and the Afghan policy.

But the PML-N leader and party’s spokesman Pervez Rashid is confident that Brigadier Imtiaz is playing someone’s dirty game. Rashid said that Brig Imtiaz’s interviews and MQM Altaf Hussain’s statements are part of the strategy to malign Nawaz Sharif and prevent him from pursuing Musharraf’s trial.

He said that there are many elements who fear that if Musharraf is tried for his unconstitutional actions, then they too would face the music for their part in the misdoings. So they have launched this anti-Nawaz campaign. He, however, expressed the resolve of his party to continue pressing for upholding the rule of law for which Musharraf’s trial is necesary.

Imtiaz claims that he still has liking for Nawaz Sharif but it is not possible for him to withhold the truth anymore. He denied that he had approached different television channels for interview. He also denied that he has recently met Rehman Malik, the interior minister.

But Dr Shahid Masood of Geo’s ‘Meray Mutabik’ told this correspondent that the Brigadier approached him for an appearance in his programme. Pervez Rashid endorsed Dr Shahid Masood’s view and said that Brigadier Imtiaz contacted different television channels, which in his view is a clear indication of a well thought out strategy to malign the PML-N top leader.

Meanwhile, a London-based source confided to this correspondent that a key Pakistani diplomat from Washington recently visited London to meet Musharraf. It is believed that certain players in the government are in close liaison with the ousted dictator and want to defeat the bid to try Musharraf on high treason charges.

The source said that a British national of Pakistani origin, who runs spices business in London, is financing pro-Musharraf campaign and is even organising Musharraf’s meetings with different media persons to oppose the demand for his trial. Recently he organised Musharraf’s meeting with some pro-Musharraf media anchorpersons at the residence of a Pakistani dentist there.

archan · Post by **archan** » 27 Aug 2009 04:34

Dossier on Saeed shared with other countries
Haye sarkar-e-Hindostan, kya qaatil andaaz haiN teray,
Hum roz banayen naye jihadi, aur aap diye jao dossier baDay-baDay.

archan · Post by **archan** » 27 Aug 2009 05:03

User tripathi's post has been moved to the India Nuclear News thread where the topic is already being discussed.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Aug 2009 08:44

There is a lot of political churning going on in Pakistan suddenly.

As BijuShet has posted, the formation of IJI, which is a well known ISI operation, is hogging limelight once again. The distribution of money to form a common united front against ms. Benazir Bhutto & the PPP has been in the court for a long time. In 1996, Air Marshal Asghar Khan filed a human rights petition in the Supreme Court against General Mirza Aslam Beg, former chief of army staff, Lt General Asad Durrani, former chief of the Inter-Services Intelligence, and Younus Habib of Habib and then Mehran Bank, concerning the criminal distribution of the people’s money for political purposes.

The last hearing of the case was on October 11 1999, one day before the army, under General Pervez Musharraf, had little option but to overthrew the ‘heavily mandated’ Nawaz Sharif government, when the sitting chief justice, Saiduzzaman Siddiqui, announced that he had reserved judgment on the ISI case.Before he could write his judgment, General Babar saw him in chambers and prevailed upon him to send notice to and examine Farooq Ahmad Khan Leghari and others mentioned on the lists before announcing his judgment. In the interest of justice, the CJ ordered that the desired notices be issued.Thereafter, the case was apparently ‘morgued’. Asghar on several occasions reminded Saiduzzaman’s successor, the new chief justice, Irshad Hasan Khan (who after retirement was appointed chief election commissioner to ‘supervise’ the 2002 elections), and requested him to take up the case but he received no response. Justice Khan was far too busy attending to more vital affairs.On August 10 2002, Asghar addressed a letter to the succeeding Chief Justice of Pakistan Sheikh Riaz Ahmad. There was no response.

In the meanwile, Abida Hussain admits to taking money and reveals even more details

I was information minister in Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi’s cabinet and received Rs 5 million from the Inter-Services Intelligence to join the IJI, Abida Hussain told a private TV channel on Thursday. Talking to the channel, Abida said she was told that Prince Naif bin Abdul Aziz of Saudi Arabia had sent this money through Mahmood Haroon. She also revealed that Nawaz Sharif, [Zafarullah] Jamali and Mir Afzal Khan were also beneficiaries.

Abida was Pakistan's Ambassador to the US once.

The other churning is the MQM case. The foisted case on Altaf Hussain by the ISI. A retired ISI agent who later became IB Chief Brigadier (Retd) Imtiaz Ahmad Billa has admitted that the conspiracy to implicate Altaf Hussain in the Jinnahpur case (that was supposed to be an attempt by MQM to create a separate nation for the Urdu-speaking people of Karachi, Hyderabad and Sukkur) was hatched by the then COAS Asif Nawaz and President Ghulam Ishaq Khan to discredit MQM.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 27 Aug 2009 09:56

Fazl-ur-Rehman on Baitullah Mehsud

The JUI-F chief said he stood by his statement that the killing of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud was a wrong decision. “We have lost the war on terror as the blood of our countrymen is being spilled,” he said.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 27 Aug 2009 16:40

U.S. missile strike kills six militants in Pakistan

WANA, Pakistan (Reuters) - Two missiles believed to have been fired by a U.S. drone aircraft struck a militant hideout killing six fighters in Pakistan's South Waziristan tribal region on Thursday, intelligence officials said.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 27 Aug 2009 16:42

ISI says it distributed millions among Pak politicians

ISLAMABAD: In a startling disclosure, Pakistan's ISI has admitted in the court that it had distributed huge amount of money to political parties and leaders including former prime ministers Nawaz Sharif, Ghulam Mustafa Jatoi, Zafarullah Jamali and Mohammad Khan Junejo.

The distribution of money was not confined to former prime ministers, but transcended political affiliations to include the likes of Pir Pagaro, Abida Hussain, Lt Gen Rafaqat and tribal leaders Humayun Marri, Nadir Mengal and Hasil Bizenjo.

The revelation was made by Pakistan's former chief justice Saeeduz Zaman Siddiqui, who said this case was still pending with the country's Supreme Court since 1999.

He said the sensational disclosures were made in an affidavit filed in the court by former ISI chief Lt Gen (retd.) Asad Durrani.

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 27 Aug 2009 17:52

BBC:

Pak Demands US Aid Not Be Linked to Nuclear Monitoring, Wants Aid Directly Sent to Itself

archan · Post by **archan** » 27 Aug 2009 18:17

Demands!!

bart · Post by **bart** » 27 Aug 2009 19:01

Sanjay M wrote:BBC:

Pak Demands US Aid Not Be Linked to Nuclear Monitoring, Wants Aid Directly Sent to Itself

They usually beg with a gun to their own head, some times they turn it around and point it at the donor.

Their national character is summed up by a news article posted here a few months back, a beggar in Pakistan apparently shot and killed a bakery worker for turning him down.

ArmenT · Post by **ArmenT** » 27 Aug 2009 20:34

IED Mubarak in Pakistan.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8225190.stm

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 27 Aug 2009 22:09

^^^
Suicide bomb hits Pakistan border

The headline makes it seem as if it is some kind of natural disaster

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 27 Aug 2009 22:30

vaman wrote:^^^
Suicide bomb hits Pakistan border

The headline makes it seem as if it is some kind of natural disaster

Exactly what I thought....

.....
it is like the bomber is not even human

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 28 Aug 2009 00:53

X post from Nukkad.

Never knew saudis had this kind of setup where in you can have sex outside marriage.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... a-marriage

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikah_Misyar

It may be the world's most puritanical kingdom but there are still legal ways to have sex on the side

Misyar is a form of marriage that allows couples to live separately but come together for sexual relations. For the women who accept it – spinsters, divorcees and widows – it's a something-is-better-than-nothing option, though they waive almost all the rights that a normal Muslim marriage entitles them to.

Hamdan, a Saudi colleague of mine back in Jeddah – distraught and depressed after the break-up of his first marriage – entered into a succession of misyar marriages. None lasted for more than six months.

there are tales of misyar wives who have clandestinely entered into more than one misyar contract. These enlightened ladies say misyar husbands never tell their full-time wives about their relationships so why can't misyar wives have similar arrangements?

Misyar is popular in the kingdom because in a society where extramarital and premarital sex is a cardinal sin it legitimises sexual relations outside the framework of conventional marriage. It was legalised through a fatwa (religious edict) issued by late Sheikh Abdulaziz bin Baz, then the chief mufti of Saudi Arabia.

Emirates-based scholar Sheikh Ahmad al-Kubaisi says that while misyar marriage is correct Islamically, it also compromises some values. Al-Kubaisi believes that misyar can solve the high rate of spinsterhood in the Arab countries:

now what would the article writer who said that Indian films spoil the pure youth of paki land when their masters them selvves indulge in such sort of things and they are legal in islam

derkonig · Post by **derkonig** » 28 Aug 2009 01:04

Isnt Mutaa' also from Saudi Barbaria?

archan · Post by **archan** » 28 Aug 2009 01:05

Al-Kubaisi believes that misyar can solve the high rate of spinsterhood in the Arab countries:

Or perhaps if the men started being nice to women for a change, the women might actually want to be with them. But then, that would be going against their culture.

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 28 Aug 2009 01:09

derkonig wrote:Isnt Mutaa' also from Saudi Barbaria?

whats Mutaa'

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 28 Aug 2009 01:15

rajsunder wrote:X post from Nukkad.

Never knew saudis had this kind of setup where in you can have sex outside marriage.

TOI:One minor girl, many Arabs
4 September 2005

rajsunder · Post by **rajsunder** » 28 Aug 2009 01:45

No Indian hand in refusing drone tech to Pak: US

http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/aug/ ... pak-us.htm

Looks like this time pakis are not going to get even soybeans.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 28 Aug 2009 02:22

derkonig wrote:Isnt Mutaa' also from Saudi Barbaria?

Mutta is pure Persian. Akbar the Greet has actual diccourse on Mutta with Shia and Sunni scholars to settle the validity of this doctine.