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Palestine problem hopeless, but not serious
Palestinian Arabs are highly literate, richer and healthier than people in most other Arab countries, thanks to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency and the blackmail payments of Western as well as Arab governments. As refugees, they live longer and better than their counterparts in adjacent Arab countries. It is not surprising that they do not want to be absorbed into other Arab countries and cease to be refugees.
Once the problem is diagnosed with this kind of clarity, the solution becomes obvious:
# Cut Western support to the Palestinians with the aim of reducing living standards in the West Bank to those prevailing in Egypt, as an incentive for emigration.
# Demilitarize Palestinian society: offer a reward for turning in weapons, seize them when necessary, and give newly-unemployed gunmen employment weaving baskets at half pay.
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Saudi Arabia to bankroll anti-Iran secessionists?: Press TV Iran
Abdulmalik Rigi's anti-Iran terrorist gang has allegedly made a financial breakthrough by persuading the Saudi government to payroll its suicide-bomber training schools in Pakistan.

Rigi's outfit -- known as 'Jundullah' or 'The Army of God' -- is a small sectarian and secessionist group fighting for an independent greater Sunni Muslim Baluchistan, which frequently bombs Shia Muslim mosques and gatherings.

It has very small appeal in the southeastern Iranian province of Sistan-Baluchestan, on the Pakistani border, and Rigi himself is in hiding in Pakistan.

Rigi has been described as a man who "used to fight with the Taliban and is part drug smuggler, part Taliban, part Sunni activist," by Alexis Debat, a senior fellow on counterterrorism at the Nixon Center and an ABC News consultant.

Jundullah is known to be associated with al-Qaeda, whose penchant for suicide bombings and televised decapitations of captives they share.

A Thursday report by Jahan News suggests that Rigi is currently working on setting up superficially-religious schools -- or madrasahs -- in Pakistan, with funding coming from the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Pakistan and certain quarters of the Pakistani government, to train more suicide bombers in order to replenish its ranks after recent setbacks.

The schools, intended to brainwash impressionable pupils to volunteer for suicide missions against Rigi's enemies, are to be managed by Faruq Zahedani, who has fled from Iran to Pakistan and is engaged in sectarian anti-Shia propaganda.

The recruits of the schools are to be drawn mainly from among the unemployed and even drug addicts in the impoverished Sistan-Baluchestan Province.
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KSA are already under attack from Iran. KSA named the AQ chaps who reside in Iran(they sent papers to Interpol), conducting anti KSA activities. Iran said "Yeah and....". Pak know that there is a limit to how much they can support Jundullah, because Iran previously launched operations into Pak (suicide bombing in a court house). Iranians summoned Pak ambassador and told him "Don't F with us, or we will pay you back in the same card".

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Anyways, about things related to India.

An Indian journo called Arun Solomon in Oman since last week has been interrogated by the ISS and various sources have confirmed this. He is accused of writing an opinion piece about Oman in a foreign newspaper about Omani media and how backwards it is. As a result the ISS (Internal Security Service of His Majesty) has interrogated the gentleman. The authorities or Oman tribune have removed any reference to his articles on the Oman Tribune website where he used to work. However his articles are reportedly available on google cache's. But looks like there is something else more sinister, as this chap has been accused by his co-workers of destroying other journalists careers (Could be a well connected journo getting his own back using connexions). No one knows if that is true or not. But one thing is for sure,he has been deported back to India along with his family. Lots of speculation and nothing in the press.

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MMS had promised His Majesty of Oman that the FTA will be signed sometime this year or next during Oman's chair of the GCC.
Multi-faceted cooperation structure with Arab world soon: Tharoor
Stating that the Gulf region has emerged as an important trading partner for India, Tharoor also said that work was on to have a free trade agreement (FTA) between India and the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

“We are negotiating with the Gulf Cooperation Council to conclude an India-GCC free trade agreement. This will complement our ongoing and rapidly expanding bilateral economic engagement with individual member countries of the GCC,” he said.
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DNW:The Forgotten War of the Arabian Peninsula
Saudis and Egypt with US Funding Aid Yemen's War on Iran-Backed Rebels
Riyadh rushed bombers to strike the rebels, Cairo opened its weapons arsenals to the Yemeni army and Washington promised to foot the bill for aiding Sanaa to win the first battle to have pitched Egypt and Saudi Arabia against Iran.
shyamd wrote: KSA would have probably launched the air attacks, they were on standby last year.
Yemen mounts major anti-rebel offensive
Sana’a: Shiite rebels and local officials say Yemeni forces, using artillery and aircraft, bombed several rebel strongholds in a province bordering Saudi Arabia in a major escalation of the conflict.

A health ministry official in Sa’ada province says 12 people have been killed.

The health ministry official and other local officials in Sa’ada spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity because they were not authorised to speak to the media.

Rebel spokesman Mohammad Abdul Salam says government forces targeted numerous areas throughout the northern province. He says there were many casualties, but did not have specific information.

The five-year-old rebellion in Sa’ada province pits Shiites against a Sunni-led government.

A top security committee that met on Tuesday said the government pledged “to carry out its responsibilities in accordance with the constitution, laws, and strike rebel elements with an iron fist until they surrender,” the state-run Saba news agency reported.

Air and ground strikes

Al Arabiya television showed aerial and ground strikes on the main rebel areas in Sa’ada province.

The fighting that started last month is the first since a truce in July last year between the government and rebels loyal to cleric Abdul Malek Al Houthi, who opposes its authority.
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Army action may not stop Yemen rebels
As to who is behind Al Houthi, the researcher said Iranian clerics play a large part in supporting the Al Houthi rebels.

"Iran has strategic goals from that support. They believe an army will come from Yemen to support the long-awaited 12th Imam Al Mahdi," he said.

"The collapse of the state in Yemen will threaten Saudi Arabia, the only force that can confront Iran. So, Iran wants this collapse to happen."

Lawyer Yahya Al Mukhtafi from Sa'ada disagrees with Ghallab saying the Al Houthi rebels receive support from inside Yemen not from outside.

"The strength of Al Houthi comes from the weapons captured from previous wars, and also from the sympathy of a lot of people all over the country, especially from the Hashemites, because war was declared against the Hashemites at the beginning," said Al Mukhtafi who is Hashemite and close to the Al Houthi family.

"I do not think there is an external support, and if there is any, it is from sympathetic organisations and individuals."
Yemen denies allegations of Saudi participation in Sa'ada war
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Kingdom suspends travel to UAE with ID cards
JEDDAH: The Director General of Passports Maj. Gen. Salim bin Muhammad Al-Bulaihid said the Kingdom has suspended the implementation of the agreement allowing travel between Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates using their national ID cards instead of passports.

"The Kingdom has taken the step because the map appearing on the ID cards of UAE citizens is not in line with the border agreement between the two countries signed on Aug. 21, 1974," Al-Bulaihid, told the Saudi Press Agency on Thursday.

The Kingdom took several steps to address the issue such as submitting official memorandum through diplomatic channels urging UAE authorities to rectify the map. The UAE authorities, however, did not respond to the Kingdom's requests.
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Sounds like they are playing Hardball with each other, after the KSA govt started fingerprinting all the truckdrivers at the UAE and KSA border causing HUGE traffic jams. The next step is directly affecting UAE nationals/business. This is due to the embarresment that Riyad is facing over the GCC currency issue.
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Bethlehem deportees: 2000 Euro a month not enough
Half a dozen of the men deported to Europe following the Israeli siege of the Nativity Church in Bethlehem say they are not receiving enough money from the Palestine Liberation Organization to cover their cost of living.
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Jordan puts Shias on trial in unprecedented case

AMMAN, Jordan — A Jordanian judicial official says six Shia Muslims have been put on trial before a military court for promoting Shia ideology and instigating religious sectarianism in this Sunni majority country.
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There is no law that prevents Shias from practicing their religion in Jordan.
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But Jordanian officials have expressed concern that the growing influence of Iran and the popularity of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah could encourage some Sunni Jordanians to convert to Shiism.
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IDF killed palestanians to harvest their organs:

http://www.tlaxcala.es/pp.asp?reference=8390&lg=en
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Escape from Dubai!

The thrilling adventure and escape of the French 007,Herve Jaubert,who fled from Dubai to Bombay in a boat.
With scuba gear under a burka, French spy Herve Jaubert made his escape from Dubai
Herve Jaubert, a former French spy, dressed in scuba diving gear and covered up like an Arab woman to flee from threatened torture.

By Richard Spencer in Dubai
Published: 23 Aug 2009

Previous1 of 3 ImagesNext Jaubert dressed as a Muslim woman as he prepares to escape by sea from Dubai
Dressed in scuba diving gear and covered up like an Arab woman to flee from threatened torture.
Herve Jaubert stands with the ruler of Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed, and the head of Dubai World holding company, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem
On a quiet spring morning, when the Arab villagers were at Friday prayers, Herve Jaubert dragged his rubber dinghy down an empty beach, started the engine, and chugged away to freedom.

As befits a former French naval officer and spy, he had made immaculate preparations for his escape from the United Arab Emirates.

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The night before, he claims he had donned wetsuit and scuba diving gear, which had smuggled to him from France in pieces. He dressed himself in women's clothes, and covered himself with a black abaya, the all-enveloping burka-like robe worn to preserve modesty in the Gulf.

Not a small man, he shuffled awkwardly out of the hotel where he was staying under an assumed name, made his way to the seafront and slipped in.

From there, he swam underwater to the nearby coastguard station, on a remote outpost of the emirate of Fujairah, where he cut the fuel lines on a police patrol boat. He knew it was the only one in the area, and the coast would now be clear.

On his dinghy the next day, it took six hours to reach his destination: a sailing boat, crewed by a fellow former French spy, that was waiting just outside UAE territorial waters.

He clambered aboard, turned the prow towards India, and for the first time since he alleges the Dubai secret police had threatened to insert needles up his nose a year before, felt the fear in his stomach dissipate. He was free.

This, at least, is the remarkable escape story that Mr Jaubert has begun to tell from the safety of his new home in Florida. It will form the centrepiece of a book he is publishing this autumn.

To the Emirati authorities, on the other hand, he is a liar and convicted fraudster.

The publication of his book, Escape from Dubai, is set to be another of the battlegrounds on which the emirate is trying to restore its reputation as a place to do business in the face of the financial crisis.

Although many other foreign businessmen have fallen foul of the Dubai authorities since the first cracks began to appear in its property-led investment boom, none was involved in anything quite as eccentric as the construction of miniature luxury submarines.

That was Mr Jaubert's business, and his involvement with Dubai began when a man called Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem visited the company he had set up in Florida to serve a speciality tourist market three years after leaving the French secret service, DGSE, in 1993.

Mr bin Sulayem suggested Mr Jaubert might move his work to the Gulf. In the balmy waters off Dubai, filling as it was with luxurious hotels and offshore villa developments in the shape of palm trees or the countries of the world, mini-submarines would be yet another attraction.

It was too good an opportunity to miss. Even when Mr Jaubert arrived, along with his Lamborghini, and found he would not be running his own firm, he was not overly alarmed. He was put in charge of a newly formed subsidiary of the company Mr bin Sulayem chaired, Dubai World, which was also responsible for the emirate's signature palm-shaped developments.

For a while, life was good. Everything was laid on to the highest quality, he says. The factory built by Dubai World was excellent, finished to the highest standards.

"You could have built an F16 fighter jet there," Mr Jaubert said.

He lived with his American wife and two children in a villa with private swimming pool.

At weekends, he would speed up the desert highways in his Lamborghini, or take to the sand dunes in one of his two Hummers.

After a couple of years, the boats started coming off the production lines.

Four mini-submarines, a submersible yacht, and, finally, his pride and joy, a larger vessel he called the Nautilus, after the submarine from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, which could carry nine people.

It is from here that accounts begin to differ.

According to a case brought against Mr Jaubert after he fled the country, and which led to his being convicted in his absence and given a jail term of five years this summer, at least two of his submarines did not work.

Auditors investigating the company accounts found gaps, the court was told.

Equipment that Mr Jaubert had ordered from his own company in Florida failed to arrive, or parts were faulty.

All told, he is alleged to have short-changed Dubai World by 14 million dirhams - just over £2 million.

Mr Jaubert claims Dubai World had run into cash flow difficulties, and had come across a central problem with its submarine business plan.

Running them â " particularly the insurance costs â " was expensive, and it was not clear who the customers were likely to be. He claims Dubai World wanted to pull out of the venture but first wanted someone to blame.

From 2007, Mr Jaubert underwent lengthy questioning at the hands of both the authorities - the state security or secret police, he says - and Dubai World's auditors.

It was the police, he said, who threatened to "insert needles into your nose again and again".

Mr Jaubert has a recording that he said he made on his mobile phone.

"Do you know how painful it is to have needles put inside your nose repeatedly and then twisted around?" the interrogator said. "Do you think you can resist this kind of pain?"

Mr Jaubert made a promise to the auditors to pay back the 14 million dirham, a fact which was to form a central plank of the prosecution case against him. He said he did so only to win himself time.

He was forced to hand in his passport to prevent him leaving the country. After doing so, he made the decision to send his family back to America.

Once they had safely left, Mr Jaubert reverted to his training as a spy to go "underground", living under assumed identities in a series of Dubai hotels until he was able to escape.

Dubai World is dismissive of Mr Jaubert's allegations, saying that he is now a convicted fraudster whose stories should not be taken seriously.

A spokesman said: "As with any large enterprise anywhere, from time to time financial wrongdoing is uncovered.

"We take the necessary legal steps when that happens and hand the matter to the police.

"After due and proper legal process, the court found Herve Jaubert guilty of embezzlement and he has been sentenced to five years in prison and ordered to repay 14â million dirham. This is entirely appropriate." But the organisation is also fighting for its own reputation. Of all Dubai's numerous government-linked companies, Dubai World is the most closely associated with its rise to glitzy pre-eminence in recent years, and the most closely associated with the debts that have followed.

The property subsidiary that built the Palm islands and the World has to repay a $3.5 billion (£2.1 billion) bond by December, and has not yet said how it is going to do so.

With work on many of its high-profile developments, including the World, slowed or stopped, it is not clear where, other than a government bail-out, the money is going to come from.

A company statement on the Nasdaq Dubai stock exchange website gives Dubai World's total debts as $59 billion (£35.7 billion).

But it also says that the company's assets are greater than its liabilities.

As for Mr Jaubert, he is now back in Florida. Although some may see his own greed and ambition as the authors of his misfortune, he denies that he put common sense aside in order to live the good life.

"I am a down-to-earth entrepreneur, and I didn't do the Dubai glitz and glamour," he said. "I had my Lamborghini, but I didn't use it to show off like other people in Dubai. It is 15 years old anyway."

He says that, of course, knowing he will now never go back. Eight days after leaving the beach in May last year, his small boat finally dropped anchor in Mumbai, more than 1,000 miles to the south-east.

"For a year in Dubai, when I had the authorities after me, when I was going to the police and prosecutors, I lived with fear," he said.

"I may be a sky diver, a former navy officer, but I had fear in my stomach every day.

"You don't know how relieved I felt when I reached international waters."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Dubai.html
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The release of the convicted Lockerbie bomber,Libyan Abdul Baset al-Megrahi,by a Scottish court on humanitarian grounds (as he is suffering from terminal cancer),has provoked a storm of outrage from the US and other western entities.There are several aspects to this story.

Firstly,Megrahi was convicted in a court in the Hague,for the bombing of an airliner in 1988 that fell on Scottish soil at Lockerbie,killing 270 people.His conviction was controversial in that he was identified as having bought an item of clothing from a shop in Malta,where unknown at the time of trial,the shopkeeper had already seen his picture as a suspect in the press.The UN observer at the trial also said that it was unlikely that he was gulity of the bombing.Megrahi has always protested his innocence.

Scottish justice is unique in that it has a provision for release on compassionate grounds,unlike the US system which shows no compassion whatsoever.By relasing Megrahi on such grounds,Scotland ,which has been granted extra autonomy,has shown that it is for all practical purposes an independent state and will at some point in the future become totally independent.No amount of pressure by the US was able to prevent the Scots from releasing Megrahi.What has become as controversial as his conviction,is that his release was also due to alleged pressure from the British govt. to release him so that Britain could gain valuable trade agreements with Libya,hinted at by the Libyans.Gordon Brown had talks with Col.Ghadaffi it has also now been revealed .

This has angered the US beyond belief,demanding its pound of flesh,that Megrahi dies in prison.
The US is no saint however,as we have seen from its recent track record at Abu Grahib,where inmates ,including women,were tortured,raped and murdered,Camp Gitmo and the revelations of secret CIA prisons around the world where inhuman water-boarding and mock executions have being carried out.The murder by US bombing of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan numbers in tens of thousands at the very least is as atrocious as Nazi atrocities in WW2.Its cries for justice ring hollow when faced with its own murderous behaviour.US-British relations however seem to be heading for very stormy weather already under strain after the O-Team took over.
Lockerbie bomber release: pressure mounting on Gordon Brown
Gordon Brown is under increasing pressure to break his "astonishing" silence over the release of the Lockerbie bomber, after it was disclosed he had discussed the issue with Colonel Gaddafi six weeks ago.

By Jon Swaine
23 Aug 2009

The Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats have both demanded that Gordon Brown disclose whether he met Scottish ministers over the release

The Prime Minister, who was in Scotland when Abdulbaset al-Megrahi was released last week, was also urged to clarify whether he used the opportunity to talk with members of the Scottish administration over the matter.

Opposition spokesmen accused Mr Brown of a "complete failure of leadership" as he maintained his refusal to speak about the early release from prison of the only man convicted of Britain's worst terrorist atrocity.


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The Prime Minister refused to make any statement despite disclosures that he had more detailed discussions with Colonel Gaddafi about the issue than previously known, and that a Foreign Office minister seemingly endorsed the decision three weeks ago.

Both the Conservatives and the Liberal Democrats demanded that Mr Brown, who is still in Scotland on his summer break, disclose whether he met Scottish ministers over the release.

Liam Fox, the shadow defence secretary, said his refusal to do so "adds disgrace to the shame of the initial decision."

He said: "We know what David Cameron thinks about it, we know what the former and current first ministers of Scotland think, we know what everyone thinks except Gordon Brown.

"When the going gets tough, Gordon Brown disappears, it's the story of his political career, it's anything but leadership."

Patrick Mercer, chairman of the Commons counter-terrorism sub-committee, said there was a risk of “long term damage to our intelligence relationship” with the US. He said unless Mr Brown made his stance clear, “there is a real danger of payback time from the U.S. on several fronts”.

As the transatlantic row over the issue intensified, Labour figures continued to heap blame on to the devolved Scottish administration - despite Colonel Gaddafi, the Libyan leader, having thanked his "friend" Mr Brown for "encouraging the Scottish government".

Jim Knight, the employment minister, also attempted to play down US anger over the affair. He said he "hoped" there would be no damage to relations despite a fierce attack on the decision by Robert Mueller, the director of the FBI.

"It is notable that the letter from the FBI rightly focused entirely on this being a Scottish decision," Mr Knight said.

He attempted to shift attention back on to Kenny MacAskill, the Scottish justice minister, officially responsible for the decision.

"I hope that there is no fall-out from this for Scotland and I hope that there is no fall-out from this for the UK in terms or our relationship with the US which is a key relationship for us. But it was a decision made by Kenny MacAskill."

Anger over the decision continued to grow in Washington, where it has already been condemned by President Obama and Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State.

Admiral Mike Mullen, the most senior US military officer, said he was "appalled" by the decision to free Megrahi.

Mr Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said: "This is obviously a political decision."

John Bolton, the former US ambassador to the UN, said of the claims of intervention from Westminster: "You have to wonder if there's not something else involved.”

It earlier emerged that a letter sent by Downing Street to the Libyan leader, urging that the release be kept low-key because a "high-profile" ceremony would distress victims' families, also showed that Mr Brown raised this with Colonel Gaddafi at the G8 summit in Italy last month.

"When we met I stressed that, should the Scottish executive decide that Megrahi can return to Libya, this should be a purely private family occasion," the letter said.

At the time it was claimed that Mr Brown had merely said that the matter was one for the Scottish administration.

It was also disclosed that Ivan Lewis, the Foreign Office minister responsible for Libya, had written to Kenny MacAskill three weeks ago with comments interpreted by the Scottish justice minister as an endorsement of Megrahi's release.

Mr Lewis is thought to have told Mr MacAskill that there was "no legal reason" to block Libya’s request to transfer Megrahi into its custody, under a treaty agreed between Tony Blair and Colonel Gadaffi in 2007.

Mr Lewis was reported to have added: “I hope on this basis you will now feel able to consider the Libyan application in accordance with the provisions of the prisoner transfer agreement.”

The Scottish government interpreted it as an attempt to influence the decision, according to a source close to Mr MacAskill.

A Foreign Office spokeswoman said that Mr Lewis had explicitly stated in the letter that the Government was not making representations on whether Megrahi should be transferred to Libya.

Ministers were also forced to deny that Megrahi's release was part of a deal involving energy contracts.

According to a transcript of comments made by Saif Gaddafi, the son of the Libyan leader, Megrahi's release was "on the table in all commercial, oil and gas agreements" and other dealings with Britain.

Lord Mandelson has met the Libyan leader's son twice in the past four months and admitted that he had a "fleeting" discussion with him about the bomber while at the Rothschild family estate in Corfu.

Mr Knight reiterated the response from Lord Mandelson, the Business Secretary, that such a claim was "completely wrong" and "offensive". Saif Gaddafi's spokesman later insisted that the Libyan's comments had been "taken out of context".

The Conservatives said it was outrageous that Mr Brown was continuing to say nothing about the release of the bomber.

William Hague, the shadow foreign secretary, called on the Government to release all official records of discussions about Megrahi's release.

Mr Hague said that the Government "urgently needs to clarify the approach that it took" to the negotiations.

Liberal Democrat sources said that it was "simply astonishing" that Mr Brown had not made a statement. "He is making a bad situation even worse with his complete lack of leadership," the source said.

"The US has been extremely critical of this decision and it is astonishing that the British prime minister has failed to say anything about it."

Edward Davey, the Lib Dem foreign affairs spokesman, said: "The evidence is mounting that there was far more to the release of Megrahi than simply a judicial decision based on compassion."

Megrahi, 57, was convicted of the 1988 bombing, in which 270 people died, in 2001. He was sentenced to life in prison but released last week after only eight years on compassionate grounds.

He has terminal prostate cancer. Under Scottish law, releases can be made on compassionate grounds if a prisoner has less than three months to live.
PS:The call for a US boycott of Scottish goods is fine with us,Less Scotch whisky for the Yanquis what! Send their share to thirsty India.
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The US outrage strikes me as a tad hypocritical.

When the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner in 1988, killing 290 people, the soldiers of the Vincennes were awarded Combat Ribbons when they got back, kind of like the Libyan bomber getting a welcome back home. The US refused to apologise and George Bush said something along the lines of.. I will never apologise for the United States, no matter what the facts are.
Similarly, Russia has shot down a couple of Korean airliners (one minor incident, and one where everyone died). No apology, no one held responsible.
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Here are more revelations (Time magazine) of the Lockerbie Pan Am bombing that bring Megrahi's guilt into further doubt.According to this riveting article,there was a secret CIA hostage-rscue team on the flight with bundles of cash,which had been tracked by a hit team.

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The theory that Jibril targeted Flight 103 in order to kill the hostage- rescue team is supported by two independent intelligence experts. M. Gene Wheaton, a retired U.S. military-intelligence officer with 17 years’ duty in the Middle East, sees chilling similarities between the Lockerbie crash and the suspicious DC-8 crash in Gander, Newfoundland, which killed 248 American soldiers in 1985. Wheaton is serving as investigator for the families of the victims of that crash. “A couple of my old black ops buddies in the Pentagon believe the Pan Am bombers were gunning for McKee’s hostage-rescue team,” he says. “But they were told to shift the focus of their investigation because it revealed an embarrassing breakdown in security.” The FBI says it investigated the theory that McKee’s team was targeted and found no evidence to support it.

Victor Marchetti, former executive assistant to the CIA’s deputy director and co-author of The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence, believes that the presence of the team on Flight 103 is a clue that should not be ignored. His contacts at Langley agree. “It’s like the loose thread of a sweater,” he says. “Pull on it, and the whole thing may unravel.” In any case, Marchetti believes the bombing of Flight 103 could have been avoided. “The Mossad knew about it and didn’t give proper warning,” he says. “The CIA knew about it and screwed up.”

The CIA may still be trying to find out more information about why McKee and Gannon suddenly decided to fly home. Last year three CIA agents, reportedly following up on their hostage-rescue mission, were shot dead in a Berlin hotel while waiting to meet a Palestinian informant.
Did the Secret Team bring down Pan Am 103 to silence heroin trade whistleblower?

Signs of the Times News | Roy Rowan, Time Magazine, Mon, 27 Apr 1992

Pan Am 103 Why Did They Die?

“FOR THREE YEARS, I’ve had a feeling that if Chuck hadn’t been on that plane, it wouldn’t have been bombed,” says Beulah McKee, 75. Her bitterness has still not subsided. But seated in the parlor of her house in Trafford, Pennsylvania, the house where her son was born 43 years ago, she struggles to speak serenely. “I know that’s not what our President wants me to say,” she admits....
http://qwstnevrythg.com/2009/08/flashba ... tleblower/
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Philip, do you have the link for the article?

Glad I got it spot on regarding KSA involvement.

Yemen War: Where US and Iran Jockey for Regional Primacy
DEBKAfile Exclusive Analysis

August 24, 2009
Embattled northern Yemen town of Saada

Embattled northern Yemen town of Saada

The latest paroxysm of Yemen's five-year war with the rebel Houthis has left more than 2,000 dead in less than a month and up to 150,000 homeless. Yemeni government troops are battling around 15,000 Iranian-armed and trained Houthi rebels dug into the northern Sadaa mountains on the Saudi Arabian border. Saudi air force bombers are pounding the rebels and the Egyptian air force and navy are ferrying ammunition to the Yemen army with US encouragement and funding.

This is the second war in less than a year in which US allies are pitted against Iran-backed forces. The first was Israel's three-week campaign against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, which ended last January.

This strategically-located, poor Red Sea country, for years a critical stage for the war on Islamist extremists, has now become a key arena where the United States and Iran jockey for regional primacy. In that respect, the Yemen conflict compares in importance with the 2006 Lebanon War and the Gaza conflict. Its outcome will bear heavily on the relative strategic positions in the Persian Gulf and Red Sea regions of the US - as well as Saudi Arabia, Egypt and indirectly Israel too - vis-à-vis Iran.

DEBKAfile's military sources point to eight salient features of the ongoing Yemen conflict:

1. Two weeks ago, president Ali Abdullah Saleh's army launched the sixth round since the year 2000 of his war with the Houthis, deploying about 20,000 troops for a major offensive to dislodge the 15,000 Houthis from their mountain fastnesses (12-18,000 feet tall) in the northern province of Saada.

2. The Houthis are Zaydis who claim they adhere to the purest form of Shiite Islam. They are fighting to bring the true faith to Yemen by restoring the Zaydi imamate overthrown in 1962. Their name derives from the movement's founder, Badreddin al-Houthi, who was killed by the Yemeni army in 2004. The Houthi Shiites and Iranian Shia have nothing in common barring Tehran's exploitation of the Yemeni rebels as a proxy force (like the Lebanese Hizballah) for gaining Iran a military foot through the door to the Saudi Arabian border and the southern Arabian peninsula.

3. The sheer quantities of hardware the Iranians managed to transfer to the Houthis in two weeks amazed Washington, Sanaa, Riyadh and Cairo, even through Iran had previously displayed this capability by the speed with which it replenished and augmented Hizballah losses after the 2006 war against Israel. The Yemeni army is therefore hard put to quell the heavily-armed insurgents or even prevent the battles from spilling out of the Saada region into other parts of the country, including the capital.

4. Fearful that the conflict and Zaydi influence may seep across Yemen's northern border into the southern Saudi regions of Najran and Asir, Saudi Arabia has sent its air force to help the Yemeni army by pounding the Houthi strongholds in Saada's mountain villages.


5. The small 66,000 Yemeni army, lacking organized military stockpiles, soon began running out of ammunition and military equipment. The Egyptian army is running these necessary supplies to Yemen through a naval and aerial corridor.

6. The Obama administration has pitched in with financial assistance for the Saudi and Egyptian efforts to help Yemen. This was agreed at the meeting the US and Egyptian presidents held at the White House last Tuesday, Aug. 18. In this fashion, US president Barack Obama is making a stand against Iran alongside Hosni Mubarak and King Abdullah.

7. Just as the US and Israel were taken by surprise by the Iranian surrogate Hizballah's military capabilities in the 2006 Lebanon War, so too were the US and its allies astonished by the Houthi rebels' command of the battlefield. The Yemeni army's First Mechanized Infantry Division, fortified by every one of its six paratroop and commando brigades and Saudi air support, has proved unable in two weeks of combat to break into the rebels' mountain strongholds.

8. Without this breakthrough, the conflict threatens to spread and escalate into the biggest and most dangerous war to strike any part of Arabia in the last 18 years, ever since Saddam Hussein ordered the Iraqi army to invade Kuwait in 1991.
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After years of financing Islamic terrorism around the world, the pigeons of terrorism come home to roost in Saudi Barbaria.

Saudi Barbarian Deputy Interior Minister in charge of Security, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, escapes a suicide bomber attack:

Saudi anti-terror chief escapes suicide bomb
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Iran minister may visit India in September
Sources told TOI that the visit will take place as early as September and pave the way for a meeting between Singh and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad later this year in Iran.
India may build $5.1 bln power station in Iran - govt
NEW DELHI (Reuters) - India may set up a 250 billion rupee ($5.1 billion) natural gas-fired power plant in Iran to generate at least 5,000 megawatts, Power Secretary H.S. Brahma said on Tuesday.

Energy-starved India, which imports 70 percent of the oil it consumes, has considered several options such as natural gas pipelines from Iran and Turkmenistan via Pakistan, but the proposals have not made much headway because of tension between New Delhi and Islamabad.

"There is a shortage of coal, shortage of gas in India. This (power plant) is viable," Brahma said on the sidelines of a business conference.

A smaller power station would not be viable as the power would be transmitted to India across a 1,000-km high-voltage transmission line.

"Our ambassador in Iran is trying his best for this. This is a proposal from the ministry of external affairs. A team from Iran is likely to visit India this year to explore the possibility of investing in India and vice versa."

On Monday, an Indian newspaper reported that the country may build a 6,000 MW power station in Iran.
Is it possible to transport over 1000km?? Guru's and expert please comment. Post nook deal, India-Iran relations are back to normal I think.
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shyamd,

What is India's contribution in Iran Nuclear Program ?
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I don't know. But based on prior knowledge, I know they watched 98 test very very closely. The structure (decision making etc) and make up is very similar to India's.
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shyamd wrote:The structure (decision making etc) and make up is very similar to India's.
SANCTIONS ON INDIAN ATOMIC SCIENTISTS BY UNITED STATES

I wanted to know more about the above News.
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arun wrote:After years of financing Islamic terrorism around the world, the pigeons of terrorism come home to roost in Saudi Barbaria.
Shravan, I know some of the other members are more knowledgable on the precise case you mentioned. Hopefully they will answer your questions.
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Saudi Barbarian Deputy Interior Minister in charge of Security, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, escapes a suicide bomber attack:

Saudi anti-terror chief escapes suicide bomb
Lots of PR on KSA TV, just saw shots of a conversation between the King and Prince Muhammad, saying "Thank you for your sacrifice and your efforts etc". My feeling that Prince Muhammad bin Nayef who is the son of Prince Nayef who is the 3rd in line after CP Sultan, this was probably a way to hurt his father.

3 suspects:
-Enemies of Prince Nayef(his father), who disagree with the way he has been acting since he was named number 3 in the succession line. He faced a lot of anger after he was named number 3, many people disagreed with his appointment.
-Extremist elements.
-Yemeni rebels.
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NKorean arms headed to Iran seized in UAE: diplomat
By Herve Couturier (AFP) – 13 hours ago

UNITED NATIONS — The United Arab Emirates has seized a ship carrying North Korean weapons to Iran, marking the first time a nation has acted on UN sanctions to stop the communist state's proliferation, a diplomat said Friday.

The incident emerged despite a recent easing of tensions with the hardline communist nation, which has been seeking a resumption of talks with the United States three months after stunning the world with a nuclear test.

A diplomat, speaking to AFP in New York on condition of anonymity, said UAE government officials had informed the UN Security Council's sanctions committee, which is responsible for implementing sanctions on Pyongyang.

"It is an issue that is being processed by the committee," said the source, who declined further comment on details on the weapons.

The seizure would indicate that North Korea is set on exporting its military technology, long a top money-maker for one of the world's poorest and most isolated nations.

The UAE mission to the United Nations declined comment on the case.

The Financial Times reported that the ship was seized "some weeks ago," and identified some of the armaments as basic weaponry, including rocket-propelled grenades.

The arms had been falsely labeled as "machine parts," the Financial Times reported. CNN said that the ship was flying the flag of The Bahamas.

The new round of UN sanctions were approved unanimously on June 12, under resolution 1874, in response to North Korea's earlier nuclear weapons test along with missile launches.

The resolution included financial sanctions designed to choke off revenue to the regime, and also called for beefed-up inspections of air, sea and land shipments going to and from North Korea, and an expanded arms embargo.

North Korea had responded furiously to the sanctions, vowing to expand its nuclear program and bolting from a six-nation disarmament agreement.

But Pyongyang has shifted tone in August, freeing two US reporters to former US president Bill Clinton and appealing through talks with New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson, the former US envoy to the UN, for dialogue with Washington.

North Korea watchers have different views on the reasons for the overtures, with some experts believing that the cash-strapped nation is feeling the pinch from the tighter sanctions.

Among other recent steps, Pyongyang has reopened the door to South Koreans -- a valuable source of hard cash -- and quietly sent a delegation last week to Los Angeles to look into bringing back US non-governmental aid agencies.

North Korea in the past acknowledged selling military technology overseas, declaring it to be a sovereign right.

But the extent of its sales remain murky. US experts estimate that North Korea earned hundreds of millions of dollars by exporting its military technology until its activities came under closer attention in recent years.

A US navy destroyer in June tracked a North Korean cargo ship suspected of heading to Myanmar, but the vessel later turned back.

India earlier this month intercepted another North Korean ship in the Bay of Bengal between India and Myanmar and is investigating its contents.

Iran and North Korea -- two of the top pariahs in Western eyes -- are suspected of cooperating to some extent on military technology.

The United Arab Emirates has a long-running island dispute with Iran and like other Gulf Arab states has been fearful that its giant neighbor is developing nuclear weapons.

In 2007, Israeli warplanes destroyed what a US official said was a nuclear reactor being built in Syria by North Korea.
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[quote="shyamd"]Philip, do you have the link for the article?

Glad I got it spot on regarding KSA involvement.

Yemen War: Where US and Iran Jockey for Regional Primacy

I already see some bad karma in this drama. If they fail or only partly succesful in this enterprise, some old ghost might be allowed to comeback from dead to help the Sunni cause. OBL is Saudi born but his ancestry is Yemeni and has strong tribal connections there. Who knows....with DC's attention span being shorter than that of an insect (whats up with these IVY leaguers?), with Saudi connivance Al Qaeda might be given a second lease of life to take on the Shiya sessionists and the Egyptians might close an eye to let the Muslim Brotherhood to join hands with AQ. America under OBama might give a couple of wink wink. All in the name of countering Iran. Bad karma is coming.
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US Now Eyes a Military Option
Driven by the Specter of a Russian Pact with a Nuclear-Armed Iran



Up until his visit to Moscow on July 6, President Barack Obama's top team was deep in a fierce debate over how to address Iran's nuclear program. Even after various US intelligence agencies confirmed that the Iranians had acquired the means for conducting a nuclear test within six months, many of his advisers continued to fight for dialogue.

Among them were National Security Adviser, Gen. James Jones, and White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, who argued that even this ominous diagnosis could play out in favor of Obama's engagement credo. They maintained that in the regime's weakened and divided state in post-election Iran, Tehran would not dare provoke the US and the Europeans by staging a nuclear test.

In support of this argument, its proponents said further that Iran's attainment of the capability for building nuclear bombs and warheads could even be an asset. It would smooth the way for a fast deal, because Tehran would then be more amenable to holding back from break-out point if suitably rewarded with political, economic and technological aid, especially upgrades of its antiquated oil fields and an offer of refining infrastructure. The ayatollahs would prefer this course to burning its international bridges by going all the way.



A nuclear-armed Iran - not if but when



This school of thought is challenged by Vice President Joe Biden, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and to some degree, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Adm. Mike Mullen. Their reading of Iran's intentions is that precisely because of their internal crisis its leaders will go for a nuclear test as a rallying point for uniting the people behind the regime.

The debate in the top US establishment took an ominous turn this week with a statement from Clinton during her Southeast Asian tour which indicated the administration was resigned to Iran's acquisition of a nuclear weapon quite soon. On July 22, she told a Thai television program that Washington could extend "a defense umbrella to protect its Arab allies" if Iran succeeded in developing nuclear weapons.

The "if" sounded more like a "when."

She went on to say: "We want Iran to calculate what I think is a fair assessment that if the United States extends a defense umbrella over the region… it's unlikely that Iran will be any stronger or safer."

The secretary also said the US could move to significantly upgrade the defenses of nations such as Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates in response to the Iranian threat.

(See Israel's response to the Clinton remarks in a separate item.)

According to DEBKA-Net-Weekly sources in Washington, this debate has been necessarily based more on emotions than facts since neither camp possess real intelligence data or actual evidence of what, say, supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei or president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were scheming - even now.

Obama refrained from arbitrating between the two before heading out for his July 6 summit in Moscow with President Dmitry Medvedev prime minister Vladimir Putin for two reasons: He was still keen on dialogue with Tehran and he cherished the hope of a collaborative effort with Russian leaders to lay the Iranian nuclear threat to rest.



A pact with Iran would be Moscow's payback for US missile shield



He left Moscow with that hope extinguished. His reset button had backfired. When he landed two days later at l'Aquila, Italy, for the G8 summit, everything had changed.

In his first formal visit to Moscow, Obama not only failed to persuade the Kremlin to cooperate on Iran - then or in the future (see DEBKA-Net-Weekly issue 404, of July 10) - but between the lines of the words he heard from Medvedev, Putin and Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov, lurked a determination to pay Washington back for its refusal to renounce the plans for stationing intercept missiles in Eastern Europe and the expansion of US influence in the Caucasus and Central Asia. This was to be accomplished by a scheme of their own: to enter into a military-nuclear alliance with Iran. Russian leaders now appeared ready to back the Khamenei-Ahmadinejad duo to the hilt on matters nuclear as well.

A nuclear-armed Iran backed by Moscow's military muscle was a truly daunting prospect.

It would open the door for a Russian breakthrough to a power base in the Gulf region at large and finally kill Obama administration planning for deals with Iran on Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Lebanon and the Palestinian issue.

The Kremlin was apparently preparing to hit back at America's missile shield in East Europe by intercepting and downing Obama's plans for key US interests.



Germans raise the alarm, British try and silence it



In the meantime, the German Foreign Intelligence Service (BND) began to lose patience with American dithering. Because its director Ernst Uhrlau had come to believe the Iranian nuclear test to be even closer than the Americans estimate, he ran some startling details in Der Stern news weekly on July 15:

“Iran will soon be able to produce atomic bombs and perform underground nuclear testing, just as North Korea has done”, BND experts were instructed to inform the magazine.

"If they want to, they will be able to set off a uranium bomb within six months," a German expert said.

Iran is focusing on building missiles capable of transporting nuclear bombs to targets as far as Europe. According to a senior BND official, these efforts are pursued "with massive intensity."

The German Foreign Intelligence Service has "no doubt" that the missile program in Iran is "exclusively" aimed at the production of atomic warheads.

The necessary missile components are being obtained through a massive network of dummy companies headed by the Iranian, Said Mohammad Hosseinian.

To try and keep the Iranian issue from escalating, the British Foreign Office stepped in. It "leaked" a retraction of the Der Stern report ostensibly from BND sources to local and European media outlets. But German intelligence struck back there and then to repudiate the retraction and identify its source as British.

This exchange further stoked the debate in Washington about how to handle the new Moscow and Tehran situation.




Gates is converted to the military option



But then, DEBKA-Net-Weekly sources in Washington report, US Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, who bought his reputation as a Russian expert in his days as Central Intelligence director in the 1990's, decided to lead the way in suggesting that there was only one way left for the Obama administration to arrest the strengthening of Russian-Iranian military and nuclear collaboration, namely, by putting America's military option against Iran back on the table.

The ardent opponent of the Bush and Obama administrations against use of military force against Iran had been converted into its fiercest advocate.

Gates is convinced that Moscow will think twice before developing its strategic alliance with Tehran when it realizes that a perilous military clash with the United States stands waiting at the end of this path.

And last week, Obama too was won over.

So now, after refusing to hear of military action for cutting down Iran's nuclear weapons program for three years, Washington is proposing to play that chip.

Scarcely noticed in the West, talk has died down in Washington about the disastrous effects of a military strike against Iran, particularly if conducted by Israel. It has been replaced with suggestions that the US is not afraid to wield its military might against Iran.

Likewise, indications of extensive US-Israeli military collaboration abound (more of which in the next article.)
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Since then, al Qa’eda’s Saudi branch has largely moved its operations to neighbouring Yemen, where instability and poverty have enabled it to take root. Saudi officials have repeatedly expressed concerns that turmoil in Yemen, where the government lacks control of large areas outside the capital, could allow al Qa’eda to carry out cross-border attacks in its territory.

Al Qa’eda militants, including fighters returning from Afghanistan and Iraq, have established sanctuaries in Yemen, particularly in three provinces bordering Saudi Arabia known as the “triangle of evil” because of the heavy militant presence.

In January, militants announced the creation of al Qa’eda in the Arabian Peninsula, a merger between the terror network’s Yemeni and Saudi branches, led by Naser Abdel-Karim al Wahishi, a Yemeni who was once a close aide to bin Laden.
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Al-Qaeda names Saudi Arabia bomber

In a statement posted on the internet on Sunday, the group said Abdullah al-Asiri crossed into Saudi Arabia from Yemen to carry out Thursday's attack.

Mohammed bin Nayef, who is in charge of the kingdom's crackdown on suspected members of the organisation, survived the suicide blast in Jeddah.

"The hero martyr on the list of 85 wanted persons Abdullah Hassan Tali al-Asiri, known as Abul-Khair, managed to enter his palace, pass his guards and blow up a package," a statement attributed to the Qaeda Jihad Organisation in the Arab Peninsula said.

"He managed to get through all the inspections at Najran and Jeddah airports and travelled on his [the prince's] private jet," it said.
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Riyadh not to change terror policy
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DUBAI: Saudi Arabia’s Interior Minister, Prince Naif bin Abdulaziz, has said a suicide bomber’s attempt on the life of his son on Thursday night will not change the Kingdom’s counter-terrorism strategy which leaves options for “repentant” extremists to surrender.

Speaking to a group of businessmen in Jeddah, Prince Naïf said Thursday’s incident “will not change this policy by which we open the door for those who repent”.

The Minister’s son, Prince Muhammad bin Naif, who is leading Saudi Arabia’s anti-terror campaign narrowly escaped assassination when a suicide bomber posing as a repentant extremist blew himself up inside his residence. Prince Naif warned that the security situation in Saudi Arabia might worsen “not in terms of the number [of attacks] but rather in their nature, and that is more dangerous”.

In its version of Thursday’s strike, Al-Qaeda, in a statement has revealed details about the attack, which, it claimed had cross border linkages involving Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

The statement by the “Qaeda Jihad Organisation in the Arab Peninsula” named the bomber as Abdullah Al Asiri. It said Al Asiri, who was based in Yemen, had crossed the border to give himself up to the Saudi Interior Ministry. He was flown from Najran, close to the Yemeni border, to Jeddah in Prince Muhammad’s private jet.

“He managed to get through all the inspections at Najran and Jeddah airports and travelled on his [the prince’s] private jet,” it said. “The hero martyr on the list of 85 wanted persons Abdullah Hassan Tali’ al-Asiri, known as Abul-Khair, managed to enter his palace, pass his guards and blow up a package,” said the statement, posted on Islamist websites.

The Al Arabiya satellite channel, meanwhile, said Al Asiri was a 23-year-old Saudi, and his brother Ibrahim was also on the Saudi wanted list of 85.

It quoted Yemeni Foreign Minister Abubakr al-Qirbi as saying Al Asiri had moved into Saudi Arabia from the Yemeni region of Mirib, after stating his wish to surrender.

Analysts say Saudi Arabia’s effective counter-terrorism drive, headed by Prince Muhammad has pushed the Al-Qaeda operating in the Kingdom to neighbouring Yemen and Iraq.

Security forces in Yemen are overstretched because the military there has been heavily engaged in combating the Iran-backed Houthi militia in its Saada mountain strongholds.
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Makes sense
Was bomber who tried to kill Saudi prince an al Qaeda "mole"?
Al Qaeda Sunday, Aug. 30, identified the suicide bomber who slightly injured Saudi Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, son of the interior minister and nephew of King Abdullah, in Jeddah Thursday Aug. 27, as Abdullah Hassan Tali al-Asiri, known as Abul Khair. Islamist sites reported: "The hero martyr on the list of 85 wanted persons… managed to enter his palace, pass his guards and blow up a package."

The communiqué suggested Asiri was apparently flow to Jeddah from Najran on the prince's private jet after entering from Yemen, claiming he wanted to give himself up as a repentant terrorist.

One of the holes DEBKAfile's counter-terror sources find in the official Saudi account of the first known close-quarters attempt on a Saudi royal since the 9/11 attacks on the United States is the statement that no one else was hurt, although the would-be assassin blew himself up in a group of people in Prince Mohammed's bureau.

The al Qaeda account confirms DEBKAfile's report linking the attempted murder to Saudi Arabia's involvement in the civil war tearing Yemen apart.

Our military sources were the first to reveal on Aug. 22 that Saudi Air Force bombers were pounding rebel al-Houthi strongholds in northern Yemen and that the targeted Saudi prince is coordinating operations on behalf of the royal house with Washington, Cairo and the Yemeni army command and government in Sanaa. (I WAS FIRST!!)

If the al Qaeda statement is correct, it would suggest that Osama bin Laden's "Qaeda Jihad Organization in the Arab Peninsula" has been able to get a double agent close to the key Saudi coordinator of the Yemen war effort. This organization was formed by a merger between the Saudi and Yemeni branches of al Qaeda.

If Al Asiri could pass through security screening at Najran and Jeddah airports while armed after entering from Yemen and board the prince's private jet, then Prince Muhammad must have recognized him as someone he wanted to debrief on the state of the Yemen battlefield, i.e. a Saudi agent or informant whom he trusted.

The prince asked his bodyguards not to search al Asiri, little suspecting he had opened himself up to attack by an al Qaeda mole.


DEBKAfile's military sources add that the Yemeni army is faring badly against the al-Houthi rebels armed by Iran and backed by al Qaeda. The troops have failed to break through to the rebel strongholds in the northern Sadaa province which borders on Saudi Arabia's Najran and Asir. Yemeni president Ali Abdullah Saleh has finally decided to throw his elite presidential guard, the 29th Mechanized Division, into the fray in a desperate bid to tip the scales in his favor.
Hezbollah showing their cards again. Blimey.... Also more news in Israeli media of lebanese spies running accross the border to Israel, being met by israeli soldiers.
Israeli Arab used membership of same gym to spy on Chief of Staff
Rauy Sultani, 23, from the Israeli Triangle town of Tirah was brought to trial before the Petach Tikva district court Monday, Aug. 31, accused of being recruited by the Lebanese Hizballah to spy on the Israeli chief of staff Lt. Gen. Gaby Ashkenazi. Sultani is accused of grave offenses against state security, passing information to the enemy and contact with a foreign agent.

According to the indictment, he was recruited by Hizballah operative Salman Harb at a summer camp run by the Israeli-Arab Balad party in Morocco in August 2008. ( I have a little feeling this part might be Israeli Psyops, because all intel people know the Israeli's have been using this tactic since the 80's to recruit potential jewish spies in foreign countries (also provide arms training to jewish youth but we'll leave that story for another day). Anyway, I suppose it is not unreasonable for Hezbollah to do it also)

Sultani told Harb that he was perfectly placed to spy on the Israeli army chief because they belonged to the same gym in Kfar Saba. He said he was familiar with Ashkenazi's movements and daily schedule.

Told to do nothing at that point, in December he was instructed by his instructor to travel to Poland and meet up with "Sammy Harb," his recruiter's brother. (Hmm....Hezbollah aint that rich, but Poland as a location doesn't make sense) The Israeli Arab was then assigned with gathering information on IDF bases and troops. But first he was thoroughly grilled on the routes of access to the gym, Ashkenazi's regular workout times, his gear and the state of security around him at those times.

The next day he was given an email address for corresponding with his controller together with an encryption disk.

On his return to Israel, the accused spy regularly reported to his controller, transferring coded messages by telephone and email. In December, Israeli police investigators picked up the correspondence and launched an inquiry. Sulmani was then put under arrest and questioned. He confessed to spying on the chief of staff and passing information to Hizballah in Poland.

The security surrounding Lt. Gen. Ashkenazi has been tightened following this and another breach: A soldier serving at general staff headquarters in Tel Aviv was discovered last month to have stolen the general's credit cards from his office and passing them on to criminals who used them on a spending spree.
DNW:
Exposed: A Murky Mix behind the Lockerbie Bomber's Release

Intelligence, Terror and Oil Secrets Laced with Libya's Succession Struggle
Exposed were British undercover meddling in the succession race in Tripoli and the conflict of interests arising between London and Washington, partners in Muammar Qaddafi's rehabilitation eight years ago.

Iran, Syria Meet Obama's Overtures with Violence

Al Qods Brigades Strike Terror in Baghdad - from Syria
With the Baghdad massacre, Tehran struck Washington twice: Once by a brutal display of terrorist violence - with more to come - and twice by compromising Syria in order to scotch any prospect of détente.

Al-Qods Brigades Redeploy in the Middle East

Arrayed on Key Borders, They Can Jump Two Ways
Acting on the principle of "strike before you are struck," the al Qods Brigades are also mobilizing Sunni terrorists including Iraqi Baathists and al Qaeda to hide Iran's fingerprints on their attacks.
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Madhusudhan wrote:The US outrage strikes me as a tad hypocritical.

When the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner in 1988, killing 290 people, the soldiers of the Vincennes were awarded Combat Ribbons when they got back, kind of like the Libyan bomber getting a welcome back home. The US refused to apologise and George Bush said something along the lines of.. I will never apologise for the United States, no matter what the facts are.
Similarly, Russia has shot down a couple of Korean airliners (one minor incident, and one where everyone died). No apology, no one held responsible.
the PRC also has had a mistaken identity shooting down incident with a civil airliner, a cathay pacific prop, in the 50's. but they did apologise.
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From Nightwatch

Saudi Arabia-Russia: For the record. Saudi Arabia is close to signing a $2 billion deal to buy Russian arms, Agence France-Presse reported 29 August, citing a Russian defense industry official. Saudi Arabia may buy up to 30 Mi-35 attack helicopters, 120 Mi-17 helicopters, 150 T-90S tanks, 250 BMP-3 infantry fighting vehicles and "several dozen" air defense systems. The arms contracts may be signed by the end of 2009.



The Saudis evidently are diversifying their primary arms supplier, which used to be the US.
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...or the Americans want to have a look at these systems, and have given the green light to the House of Saud to proceed in acquiring these weapon systems.

Besides, America want the Russians to desist from arming Iran, so it could well be a ploy to pull Russia into the Sunni camp.
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This story from Saudi Barbaria seems an affirmation of Nobel laureate Sir Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul’s comment that Islam " has had a calamitous effect on converted peoples. To be converted you have to destroy your past, destroy your history. You have to stamp on it, you have to say 'my ancestral culture does not exist, it doesn't matter'. " (Reference):
Digging up the Saudi past: some would rather not

By DONNA ABU-NASR (AP) – 1 day ago

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia — Much of the world knows Petra, the ancient ruin in modern-day Jordan that is celebrated in poetry as "the rose-red city, 'half as old as time,'" and which provided the climactic backdrop for "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade."

But far fewer know Madain Saleh, a similarly spectacular treasure built by the same civilization, the Nabateans.

That's because it's in Saudi Arabia, where conservatives are deeply hostile to pagan, Jewish and Christian sites that predate the founding of Islam in the 7th century. ...................

The sensitivities run deep. Archaeologists are cautioned not to talk about pre-Islamic finds outside scholarly literature....................

In the eyes of conservatives, the land where Islam was founded and the Prophet Muhammad was born must remain purely Muslim. ......................

In the past, Saudi authorities restricted foreign archaeologists to giving technical help to Saudi teams. Starting in 2000, they began a gradual process of easing up that culminated last year with American, European and Saudi teams launching significant excavations on sites that have long gone lightly explored, if at all. ..........................

So far, there has been no known friction with conservatives over the new excavations, in part because they are in the early stages, are not much discussed in Saudi Arabia, and haven't produced any announcements of overtly Christian or Jewish finds.

But the call to keep the land purged of other religions runs deep among many Saudis. Even though Madain Saleh site is open for tourism, many Saudis refuse to visit on religious grounds because the Quran says God destroyed it for its sins.

Excavations sometimes meet opposition from local residents who fear their region will become known as "Christian" or "Jewish." And Islam being an iconoclastic religion, hard-liners have been known to raze even ancient Islamic sites to ensure that they do not become objects of veneration. Saudi museums display few non-Islamic artifacts. ..................

Associated Press Writer Lee Keath contributed from Cairo.

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Iranian FM in Muscat, blimey...they have visited each other quite often over the last 3 months. Something is up.
Iranian foreign minister on visit to Oman

KSA buying weapons from Russia was quite old now. Analysts said it was to buy influence in Russia, so that they stop deals with Iran.
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The story of the assassination attempt on Muhammad Bin Nayif is still developing. Today, Saudi media released an audio tape of a phone conversation between the prince and the assassin. But the conversation reveals a degree of familiarity, nay intimacy, between the prince and the assassin. It was so bizarre especially when the prince told the Al-Qa`idah member that "you are our kids." Al-Arabiyya TV (the private station of King Fahd's brother-in-law) realized that while they are airing the tape they are also unwittingly revealing the relations between the prince and those Bin Ladenites, and the able Syrian broadcaster, Zeina Al-Yaziji, even asked a Saudi journalist to explain this intimacy of the phone conversation. He answered by wishing people a happy Ramadan.
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US trebles MOP "bunker buster" bombs order, wants them fast
In view of new information about Iran and North Korea's underground nuclear facilities, the US Air Force has asked to speed up the delivery of 10 to 12 giant Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP) bunker buster bombs, according to Air Force Lt. Gen. Mark Shackelford.

Unusually, DEBKAfile's military sources report, the order has been trebled in less than a year after Congress was first asked for $68 million to buy four MOPs by the US Pacific Command which covers the Korean area and US Central Command which oversees Iran. On Aug. 3, the Pentagon announced a decision to accelerate delivery and again on the 30th for the order to be filled as soon as possible by July 2010 at latest.

Gen. Shackelford said: "These are purchases beyond just those needed to test their capability. In other words (the military is seeking to) build a small inventory of, I believe, 10-12 bombs."

The MOP, using GPS and inertial guidance to find its target, can penetrate 200 feet underground, and is the last of a line of American super bombs.
Does Af-Pak and Yindustan come under Centcom?
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Only Fak-Ap. India comes under PacCom.
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Thanks Ramana, left my comment in the Mumbai thread.

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Senior officers of the Revolutionary Guards (Pasdarans) are to be named to all of the key posts in the police, security and intelligence fields.
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Vitol (Swiss company) continues to provide Iran with refining capacity, which has refineries in the emirate of Fujairah. the emir of Fujairah is the lead for the UAE on negotiations on the disputed islands.
I think RIL is continuing to supply iran.

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UAE nuke deal:
The lawmakers want the Obama administration to oblige the emirate to control its exports before Washington agrees to a nuclear cooperation agreement which would pave the way for building a power plant. Committee says during the hearing that the construction of a power plant in Abu Dhabi could profit Iran, which has a strong presence in Dubai and in the emirate of Fujairah. A bill controlling exports was adopted in 2007 by the UAE, and customs officials and prosecutors from the United Arab Emirates are currently being trained by the State Department.
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The french DGSE recently acquired RPG7's. Wonder where they are going to use them. Perhaps Af-Pak.
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The Swiss government remains determined to destroy all the papers of the Tinner family which formed part of the nuclear proliferation ring of Pakistan’s Abdul Qadeer Khan. The CIA, which used the Tinners as informers and then as agents, is demanding that the documents be destroyed, but the Swiss Parliament is opposed to the move. The U.S. Justice Department, which is currently negotiating with the UBS bank for access to the list of its American customers, could well be in a position to put pressure on the Swiss in the Tinner affair
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Unlike his younger brother, Omar bin Laden, who is living in exile in Qatar (Qatar has been playing both sides as is aware now, even after Iraq invasion, Qatari's bought Saddam's family to Doha, that was the first place they came), Saad had military training and his death represents a loss for the Jihadist movement. Between 2001 and last year, Saad and his brother Mohamed lived in Iran under the protection of the al Qods unit of the Revolutionary Guards (Pasdarans). They were allowed to quit Iran last year and travelled into the tribal zones in Pakistan where their father also resides.
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The most recent cases of piracy in the Gulf of Aden have raised red flags among Western security services. The Somali pirates are no longer alone in attacking shipping: Yemenis are following in their tracks. This has prompted analysts to sound the alarm over the specter of Jihadist groups getting into the piracy business. In Riyadh, the authorities have added another twist to the threat. General Saleh Al Mohaya, Saudi armed forces chief-of-staff, has openly accused Iran’s Revolutionary Guards of stirring up trouble in the zone by helping the pirates. Several of Al Mohaya’s western contacts recently received a report from him which, if it proves true, can only deepen the threat.

In that case, the current naval protection system in the Indian Ocean and Gulf of Aden will be inadequate to handle the crisis. No real coordination exists between the naval forces in the area. The European Union, which launched the Atalante operation in December, 2008, was given the cold shoulder when it asked the Chinese, Indian and Russian government to get the ships they’ve sent to the region to take part in the operation. Elsewhere, Paris has offered to set up a center in Djibouti to pool information collected in the anti-piracy drive.
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Yemen: Internal rivalry has undermined the regime at a moment when it has come under attack from Shi’ite Zaidites in the north and separatists in the south. Elsewhere, Yemen has received money from both Saudi Arabia and the United States to combat Jihadi fighters who have taken refuge in the country after operating in Afghanistan or Iraq. Several of them were recently rounded up in Yemen.
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For the first time since 1994, an official from the Palestinian Authority has met with a senior Iranian aide. "Intelligence Online" offers an account of their deliberations:

At the behest of Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak, the chief of Palestinian negotiators, Saeb Erakat, nonetheless agreed to meet on July 16 with Iran’s foreign minister, Manoucher Mottaqi, on the sidelines of the Unaligned Conference held at Sharm el Sheikh. Consulted on the matter, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister, prince Saud al Faysal, was totally opposed to the encounter. Also informed, George Mitchell, U.S. president Barack Obama’s envoy to the Middle East, was a lot less categorical.

On 11 a.m., Erakat turned up accompanied by two deputies at Mottaki’s suite in the conference center at the resort town of Sharm el Sheikh. The two men embraced and the Iranian began the talk by underlining Iran’s support for reconciliation between Hamas and Fatah and for the mediation undertaken by Egypt (which proved abortive). In reply, Erakat accused Iran of torpedoing Inter-Palestinian dialogue and blamed Tehran for “Hamas’ refusal to participate in a government of national union and recognize past Israeli-Palestinian agreements.” He also evoked, with figures in hand, “the USD 10 million monthly budget that Tehran awards Hamas, armaments shipments and the training of fighters in Hezbollah camps in Baalbek and on the Revolutionary Guards bases around Tehran.”

Erakat equally reproached the Iranian media of attacking prime minister Salam Fayad, often qualifying him as “Washington’s man.”

“No, Mr. Minister, Fayad is Palestine’s man,” Erakat said. “Iran won’t win anything by attacking him in that manner.”

Just when the talks seemed about to turn nasty, a member of the Iranian delegation sent a message to Mottaki, who interrupted the talks to read it. He then turned to Oraikat and asked him to transmit an invitation of the Palestinian Authority’s president Mahmoud Abbas to travel to Tehran to discuss all of the problems that weigh between the Authority and Iran.
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Al Qods Force has recovered three of its members who were arrested in Erbil in January, 2007 and had been held since then by American forces in Iraq . The handover took place in early July. Shortly after the release of the 3, anonymous American officials told the Washington Times the trio had been “held as hostages” in order to give Washington some leverage with Tehran. A month after their arrest, the Revolutionary Guards (Pasdarans) general Ali Reza Asgari defected to the United States via Istanbul. The following month, the American investigator Robert Levinson was arrested by Iranian security forces on the island of Kish. Levinson is still being held in Iran and appears to be serving as a bargaining chip as well.
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Bahrain will be sending a small detachment of its special forces to Af-Pak. So this is the next GCC nation apart from the UAE to operate in Af-Pak. I also noted that HH Sheikh Nasser Bin Hamad, the son of the Bahraini King was training with the special forces a few months back, although it looked more like counter terror operations, as they are planning to take over some shia neighbourhoods.
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Israel’s domestic intelligence agency is guaranteeing the physical security of Palestinian leaders against Jewish extremists.
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"Bum Bomb",new Islamist terror device.

Sorry Shyam,I thought I posted the link below.Here's some super details about the attack on thr Saudi Prince,it was an ingenious new device,probably obtained from Paki friends,...a "Bum Bomb".
After al-Asiri entered a small room to speak with Prince Mohammed, he activated a small improvised explosive device (IED) he had been carrying inside his anal cavity. The resulting explosion ripped al-Asiri to shreds but only lightly injured the shocked prince — the target of al-Asiri’s unsuccessful assassination attempt.
Full free article from Stratfor.
On the evening of Aug. 28, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, the Saudi Deputy Interior Minister — and the man in charge of the kingdom’s counterterrorism efforts — was receiving members of the public in connection with the celebration of Ramadan, the Islamic month of fasting. As part of the Ramadan celebration, it is customary for members of the Saudi royal family to hold public gatherings where citizens can seek to settle disputes or offer Ramadan greetings.

One of the highlights of the Friday gathering was supposed to be the prince’s meeting with Abdullah Hassan Taleh al-Asiri, a Saudi man who was a wanted militant from al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). Al-Asiri had allegedly renounced terrorism and had requested to meet the prince in order to repent and then be accepted into the kingdom’s amnesty program. Such surrenders are not unprecedented — and they serve as great press events for the kingdom’s ideological battle against jihadists. Prince Mohammed, who is responsible for the Saudi rehabilitation program for militants, is a key figure in that ideological battle.

In February, a man who appeared with al-Asiri on Saudi Arabia’s list of most-wanted militants — former Guantanamo Bay inmate Mohammed al-Awfi — surrendered in Yemen and was transported to Saudi Arabia where he renounced terrorism and entered into the kingdom’s amnesty program. Al-Awfi, who had appeared in a January 2009 video issued by the newly created AQAP after the merger of the Saudi and Yemeni nodes of the global jihadist network, was a senior AQAP leader, and his renouncement was a major blow against AQAP.

But the al-Asiri case ended very differently from the al-Awfi case. Unlike al-Awfi, al-Asiri was not a genuine repentant — he was a human Trojan horse. After al-Asiri entered a small room to speak with Prince Mohammed, he activated a small improvised explosive device (IED) he had been carrying inside his anal cavity. The resulting explosion ripped al-Asiri to shreds but only lightly injured the shocked prince — the target of al-Asiri’s unsuccessful assassination attempt.

While the assassination proved unsuccessful, AQAP had been able to shift the operational paradigm in a manner that allowed them to achieve tactical surprise. The surprise was complete and the Saudis did not see the attack coming — the operation could have succeeded had it been better executed.

The kind of paradigm shift evident in this attack has far-reaching implications from a protective-intelligence standpoint, and security services will have to adapt in order to counter the new tactics employed. The attack also allows some important conclusions to be drawn about AQAP’s ability to operate inside Saudi Arabia.

Paradigm Shifts
Militants conducting terrorist attacks and the security services attempting to guard against such attacks have long engaged in a tactical game of cat and mouse. As militants adopt new tactics, security measures are then implemented to counter those tactics. The security changes then cause the militants to change in response and the cycle begins again. These changes can include using different weapons, employing weapons in a new way or changing the type of targets selected.

Sometimes, militants will implement a new tactic or series of tactics that is so revolutionary that it completely changes the framework of assumptions — or the paradigm — under which the security forces operate. Historically, al Qaeda and its jihadist progeny have proved to be very good at understanding the security paradigm and then developing tactics intended to exploit vulnerabilities in that paradigm in order to launch surprise attacks. For example:

Prior to the 9/11 attacks, it was inconceivable that a large passenger aircraft would be used as a manually operated cruise missile. Hence, security screeners allowed box cutters to be carried onto aircraft, which were then used by the hijackers to take over the planes.

The use of faux journalists to assassinate Ahmed Shah Masood with suicide IEDs hidden in their camera gear was also quite inventive.

Had Richard Reid been able to light the fuse on his shoe bomb, we might still be wondering what happened to American Airlines Flight 63.

The boat bomb employed against the USS Cole in October 2000 was another example of a paradigm shift that resulted in tactical surprise.

Once the element of tactical surprise is lost, however, the new tactics can be countered.

When the crew and passengers on United Airlines Flight 93 learned what had happened to the other flights hijacked and flown to New York and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, they stormed the cockpit and stopped the hijackers from using their aircraft in an attack. Aircraft cockpit doors have also been hardened and other procedural measures have been put in place to make 9/11-style suicide hijackings harder to pull off.

Following the Masood assassination, journalists have been given very close scrutiny before being allowed into the proximity of a VIP.

The traveling public has felt the impact of the Reid shoe-bombing attempt by being forced to remove their shoes every time they pass through airport security. And the thwarted 2006 Heathrow plot has resulted in limits on the size of liquid containers travelers can take aboard aircraft.

The U.S. Navy is now very careful to guard against small craft pulling up alongside its warships.

Let’s now take a look at the paradigm shift marked by the Prince Mohammed assassination attempt.

AQAP’s Tactical Innovations
First, using a repentant militant was a brilliant move, especially when combined with the timing of Ramadan. For Muslims, Ramadan is a time for introspection, sacrifice, reconciliation and repentance — it is a time to exercise self-restraint and practice good deeds. Additionally, as previously mentioned, Ramadan is a time when the Saudi royal family customarily makes itself more accessible to the people than at other times of the year. By using a repentant militant who appears on Saudi Arabia’s list of most-wanted militants, AQAP was playing to the ego of the Saudis, who very much want to crush AQAP, and who also want to use AQAP members who have renounced terrorism and the group as part of their ideological campaign against jihadists. The surrender of an AQAP member offered the Saudi government a prize and a useful tool — it was an attractive offer and, as anticipated, Prince Mohammed took the bait. (Another side benefit of this tactic from the perspective of AQAP is that it will make the Saudis far more careful when they are dealing with surrendered militants in the future.)

The second tactical innovation in this case was the direct targeting of a senior member of the Saudi royal family and the member of the family specifically charged with leading the campaign against AQAP. In the past, jihadist militants in Saudi Arabia have targeted foreign interests and energy infrastructure in the kingdom. While jihadists have long derided and threatened the Saudi royal family in public statements, including AQAP statements released this year, they had not, prior to the Prince Mohammed assassination attempt, ever tried to follow through on any of their threats. Nor has the group staged any successful attack inside the kingdom since the February 2007 attack that killed four French citizens, and it has not attempted a major attack in Saudi Arabia since the failed February 2006 attack against a major oil-processing facility in the city of Abqaiq. Certainly the group had never before attempted a specifically targeted assassination against any member of the very large Saudi royal family — much less a senior member. Therefore the attack against Prince Mohammed came as a complete surprise. There are many less senior members of the royal family who would have been far more vulnerable to attack, but they would not have carried the rank or symbolism that Mohammed does.

But aside from his rank, Mohammed was the logical target to select for this operation because of his office and how he conducts his duties. Mohammed has long served as the primary contact between jihadists and the Saudi government, and he is the person Saudi militants go to in order to surrender. He has literally met with hundreds of repentant jihadists in person and had experienced no known security issues prior to the Aug. 28 incident. This explains why Mohammed personally spoke on the phone with al-Asiri prior to the surrender and why he did not express much concern over meeting with someone who appeared on his government’s list of most-wanted militants. He met with such men regularly.

Since it is well known that Mohammed has made it his personal mission to handle surrendering militants, AQAP didn’t have to do much intelligence work to realize that Mohammed was vulnerable to an attack or to arrange for a booby-trapped al-Asiri to meet with Mohammed. They merely had to adapt their tactics in order to exploit vulnerabilities in the security paradigm.

The third tactical shift is perhaps the most interesting, and that is the use of an IED hidden in the anal cavity of the bomber. Suicide bombers have long been creative when it comes to hiding their devices. In addition to the above-mentioned IED in the camera gear used in the Masood assassination, female suicide bombers with the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam have hidden IEDs inside brassieres, and female suicide bombers with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party have worn IEDs designed to make them look pregnant. However, this is the first instance we are aware of where a suicide bomber has hidden an IED inside a body cavity.

It is fairly common practice around the world for people to smuggle contraband such as drugs inside their body cavities. This is done not only to get items across international borders but also to get contraband into prisons. It is not unusual for people to smuggle narcotics and even cell phones into prisons inside their body cavities (the prison slang for this practice is “keistering”). It is also not at all uncommon for inmates to keister weapons such as knives or improvised stabbing devices known as “shanks.” Such keistered items can be very difficult to detect using standard search methods, especially if they do not contain much metal.

In the case of al-Asiri, he turned himself in to authorities on the afternoon of Aug. 27 and did not meet with Mohammed until the evening of Aug. 28. By the time al-Asiri detonated his explosive device, he had been in custody for some 30 hours and had been subjected to several security searches, though it is unlikely that any of them included a body cavity search. While it is possible that there was some type of internal collusion, it is more likely that the device had been hidden inside of al-Asiri the entire time.

AQAP’s claim of responsibility for the attack included the following statement:
“…Abdullah Hassan Taleh al-Asiri, who was on the list of 85 wanted persons, was able, with the help of God, to enter Nayef’s palace as he was among his guards and detonate an explosive device. No one will be able to know the type of this device or the way it was detonated. Al-Asiri managed to pass all the security checkpoints in Najran and Jeddah airports and was transported on board Mohammed bin Nayef’s private plane.”

AQAP also threatened additional surprise attacks in the “near future,” but now that the type of device al-Asiri used is known, security measures can — and almost certainly will — be implemented to prevent similar attacks in the future.

While keistering an IED is a novel tactic, it does present operational planners with some limitations. For one thing, the amount of explosive material that can be hidden inside a person is far less than the amount that can be placed inside a backpack or is typically used in a suicide belt or vest. For another, the body of the bomber will tend to absorb much of the blast wave and most of any fragmentation from the device. This means that the bomber would have to get in very close proximity to an intended target in order to kill him or her. Such a device would not be very useful for a mass-casualty attack like the July 17 Jakarta hotel bombings and instead would be more useful in assassination attempts against targeted individuals.

We have not been able to determine exactly how the device was triggered, but it likely employed a command-detonated remote device of some kind. Having wires protruding from the bomber’s body would be a sure giveaway. The use of a wireless remote means that the device would be susceptible to radio frequency countermeasures.

One other concern about such a device is that it would likely have a catastrophic result if employed on an aircraft, especially if it were removed from the bomber’s body and placed in a strategic location on board the aircraft. Richard Reid’s shoe IED only contained about four ounces of explosives, an amount that could conceivably be smuggled inside a human.
PS:Simply hilarious! Now we will have at all public functions attended by VVIPs,a new kind of "body search",where invited guests will have to drop their pants...or skirts,lift up their sarees,or whatever,and subject themselves to "inspection"" by specially trained security staff! I can see the number of VVIPs invited for functions plummeting ( surely a good thing?),or functions where VVIPs are chief guests with no invitees! I can't see any VVIP attending such a show.
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Thanks Philip.

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Remember the Russian aircraft that was asked to land in Mumbai? Basically the coalition(Read RAF British) are using IL-76's and An 124's etc for coalition transport, due to lack of Globemasters. They are currently operating out of Muscat Seeb Airport.
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Don't really believe this story one bit. India has had one with UAE for a long time, I think since 1999. UAE did not extradite Anees in 2002.
Ref: Dubai disappoints India : Anees freed and flies back to Karachi

West Asia turns a haven for terror accused
Biju Govind

Absence of extradition treaties puts police in a quandary

Kozhikode: Various investigation teams of the State police are in a quandary over the absconding accused in numerous terror-linked cases hiding in West Asian countries. In most of these cases the police have not got a clear picture of the conspiracy behind the incidents.

Incidentally, Thadiyantabide Nazir alias Ummer Haji, the mastermind in the Kozhikode twin blast case of March 2006, has fled to Pakistan via Saudi Arabia, sources said.

Nazir, who hails from Kannur, is wanted in several cases, including recruiting youths for terrorist activities in Jammu and Kashmir.

He is suspected to have spread a web of sleeper cells linked to Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Indian Mujahideen in the State.

The Special Investigation Group, Crime Branch - Criminal Investigation Department, is hunting for Shammy Firoz, a native of Malappuram; Shafaz of Kannur and Azhar suspected to be involved in the twin blast case. They have either fled to the United Arab Emirates or Saudi Arabia, officials said.

Investigators are searching for Ummer Farooq of Parappanagadi in Malappuram and Ibrahim Mouvali of Vellamunda in Wayanad, who are absconding in the case of recruiting youths for terrorist activities.

Only recently intelligence wings have been able to arrest Sarfaraz Nawaz from Oman. Another fugitive arrested was E.K. Sainudeen alias Abdul Sathar.

Both of them have been involved in the serial blast in Bangalore in July last year.

The officials said the absence of extradition treaties between India and West Asian countries was helping terrorists to make these nations a safe haven.

After the Saudi administration decided to take a strong stand against extremists including al-Qaeda some of the fugitives are fleeing to Yemen.

Recently there was an attempt on the life of Prince Mohammed bin Nayaf, Deputy Interior Minister, who is spearheading a crackdown on al-Qaeda in Saudis Arabia.
Don't really believe this story one bit. India has had one with UAE for a long time, I think since 1999. UAE did not extradite Anees in 2002.
Ref: Dubai disappoints India : Anees freed and flies back to Karachi

Its political will, the extradition treaty doesn't really work in West Asia. Sarfraz Nawaz was extradited quietly due to Oman's intolerance towards terror and political will from His Majesty.

India and Qatar are running a joint database/intelligence sharing on threats posed by extremists for example.
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Madhusudhan wrote:The US outrage strikes me as a tad hypocritical.

When the USS Vincennes shot down an Iranian airliner in 1988, killing 290 people, the soldiers of the Vincennes were awarded Combat Ribbons when they got back, kind of like the Libyan bomber getting a welcome back home. The US refused to apologise and George Bush said something along the lines of.. I will never apologise for the United States, no matter what the facts are.
Similarly, Russia has shot down a couple of Korean airliners (one minor incident, and one where everyone died). No apology, no one held responsible.
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Yes, an arab minister is visiting NM.
Oman delegation calls on Narendra Modi
Ahmedabad, Sep 3 A nine-member delegation led by Maqbool Ali Sultan, Industries and Commerce Minister of Oman, called on the Chief Minister Narendra Modi today to discuss ways to increase partnership between Gujarat and Oman in trade and commerce.

The delegation discussed various issues related to trade, commerce, industry and exports during their meeting with the Chief Minister, an official release said today.

During the vibrant Gujarat investors' summit in last January, Oman had signed an MoU with the Gujarat government for a port project in the state.

Modi and the delegation discussed the concession agreement to be signed by Gujarat and Oman regarding the project for which MoU was signed earlier.

Meanwhile, Oman minister also extended invitation to Modi to visit free trade zone, international trans-shipment hub and Sohar port in Oman.

Modi assured the delegation that the state government would soon send a delegation to Oman. He said Gujarat has the longest coastline which can serve as a platform to enhance trade between Gulf countries and India.
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Acceptance versus recognition
“HAMAS is very close on recognition of Israel,” says Ahmed Yousef, the Islamist movement’s deputy foreign minister, speaking from the top floor of a high-rise building in Gaza City. “We show all sorts of ideological flexibility on this.”
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shravan wrote:SANCTIONS ON INDIAN ATOMIC SCIENTISTS BY UNITED STATES

I wanted to know more about the above News.
We are "good" guys who follow "International"(made in West) laws.
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