Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - July 07, 2009

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 11 Sep 2009 20:44

^^^^
I used to make fun of UKStan .....when they came up with the idea of an ad campaign in P'stan to stop terror attacks on UK...... now I don't know how to react.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 11 Sep 2009 20:48

The Deputy Chief Terrorist of TSPA,Shuja has gone to the Indian High Commission for iftar/daftar etc.What do the gurus make of it?

archan · Post by **archan** » 11 Sep 2009 21:55

Its all OK as long as he does not do this.

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 12 Sep 2009 02:50

It seems Pakistan has conveniently managed to arrest the top Taliban leader in Pakistan on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks. Again, how convenient, in order to manage any heightened emotional feelings in the US on the anniversary.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8249869.stm

Top Taliban arrested in Pakistan

One of the highest ranking Taliban officials in Pakistan has been arrested with four other senior militants in the country's north-west, officials say.

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 12 Sep 2009 03:48

Sanjay M wrote:It seems Pakistan has conveniently managed to arrest the top Taliban leader in Pakistan on the anniversary of the September 11 attacks. Again, how convenient, in order to manage any heightened emotional feelings in the US on the anniversary.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8249869.stm

Top Taliban arrested in Pakistan

One of the highest ranking Taliban officials in Pakistan has been arrested with four other senior militants in the country's north-west, officials say.

Sanjay M ... these are the TTP guys not the Afghan Taliban ... these guys are expendable for Pakistan but not the Afghans ...

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 12 Sep 2009 04:45

BSF strikes back as Pak fires rockets near Punjab border

MRITSAR: Pushed to the wall by Pakistan on Friday night, when it reportedly fired two rockets into border villages of Punjab — the second such

provocation in two months — India for the time is said to have struck back with machine guns.

The unsettling attack from a belligerent neighbour came on a day when the Border Security Force had deployed its first batch of women along the border. No causality was reported till news last came in at 11.45 pm, stating that Pakistan had fired three more rockets which were yet to be traced.

“Earlier, two rockets were fired from the Pakistani side, one falling in Dhanoae Khurd and the other is yet to be traced,” said BSF, IG, Frontier, Himmat Singh. As India opened fire from Pul Kanjari end, losing patience over repeated violations during peace times between the two nations, the IG confirmed, “During my tenure, this is the first time that BSF has retaliated.”

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 12 Sep 2009 05:01

Pakistan rejects Indian protest on Gilgit-Baltistan, Bunji dam

ISLAMABAD: The Deputy High Commissioner of India in Islamabad was called to the Foreign Office on Friday and Indian protest on Gilgit-Baltistan self-rule order was rejected.

The Foreign Office Director General (South Asia) emphasized that Pakistan rejects the Indian protest as the Government of India has no locus standi in the matter.

A press release issued by the Foreign Office stated that the Government of Pakistan also rejects the Indian claim that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. "Pakistan's position on Jammu and Kashmir dispute is based on relevant UN resolutions."

Two protest notes were handed over to the High Commission for Pakistan in New Delhi today by the Ministry of External Affairs of India, on the Gilgit-Baltistan (Empowerment and Self-Governance Order, 2009); and construction of Bunji Dam in Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Sep 2009 07:11

X Post.

It must be quite a harrowing time to be a Dhimmi in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan during Ramadan not knowing when the vast sections of Pakistan’s Momin’s who have worked themselves up during the month into a frenzy of Islamic zeal are going to set off by a perceived slight to Islam by Dhimmi’s

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Saturday, September 12, 2009

Church torched in Sialkot over ‘desecration’

LAHORE: An angry mob torched a church in Sambarial area of Sialkot over alleged desecration of the holy Quran, a private TV channel reported on Friday. ......................

Daily Times

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 12 Sep 2009 07:28

PM gilani has banned making of sweets in his house to commiserate with the people on the lack of sugar in pak. this per a report in TOI.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 12 Sep 2009 08:27

Genocide in SWAT by TSPA

http://news.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/ ... k-army.htm

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 Sep 2009 08:42

Everybody's favorite dictator is back !

Musharraf plans to join active politics after Nov 30: Aide

Amid the demand for the trial of Pervez Musharraf for treason by the opposition PML-N, the former president will participate in Pakistan's politics after November 30 when a two-year constitutional bar on him holding public office ends, one of his close aides has said.

"Musharraf would unite various factions of the PML-Q and participate in politics from that platform," Chaudhry Shahbaz, a PML-Q leader and a former federal minister, told reporters here yesterday.

Prasad · Post by **Prasad** » 12 Sep 2009 10:53

Anujan wrote:Everybody's favorite dictator is back !

Musharraf plans to join active politics after Nov 30: Aide

Coming back to complete the 13-step Dictator Cycle?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 12 Sep 2009 10:54

pgbhat wrote:Pakistan rejects Indian protest on Gilgit-Baltistan, Bunji dam
ISLAMABAD: The Deputy High Commissioner of India in Islamabad was called to the Foreign Office on Friday and Indian protest on Gilgit-Baltistan self-rule order was rejected.

The Foreign Office Director General (South Asia) emphasized that Pakistan rejects the Indian protest as the Government of India has no locus standi in the matter.

A press release issued by the Foreign Office stated that the Government of Pakistan also rejects the Indian claim that Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of India. "Pakistan's position on Jammu and Kashmir dispute is based on relevant UN resolutions."

Two protest notes were handed over to the High Commission for Pakistan in New Delhi today by the Ministry of External Affairs of India, on the Gilgit-Baltistan (Empowerment and Self-Governance Order, 2009); and construction of Bunji Dam in Azad Jammu and Kashmir.

What TSP is doing is annexing Gilgit. I think India should abrogate Art 370.

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Sep 2009 11:18

pgbhat wrote:Who is speaking the truth — Pakistan or India? ---- Amir Mir

Balochistan apart, the sources say the Pakistani dossier also included pictures of several non-Muslims (all of them uncircumcised), who had been killed during the ongoing Pakistani military action in the Swat valley. In addition, proof of Indian involvement in terror financing in Pakistan has also been provided to New Delhi, along with the names of Indian agents who had crossed the border to link up with militants on the Pakistani side of Wagah. In other words, India is accused of not only fishing in troubled waters of Balochistan, but destabilising a large swathe of Pakistan.
{Snipped}...........................
The pakis will repeat a lie a million times and start believing it themselves..... rest of world be damned.

In yet another flip flop by the Pakistani's:

Saturday, September 12, 2009

Qureshi denies India given a ‘Balochistan dossier’

NEW DELHI: Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi has denied media reports that Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani had handed over a dossier on Balochistan during talks with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in Egypt. "No, we didn't. Actually, we flagged the issue. We asked for a positive attitude and non-interference in the province," Qureshi said in an interview in the latest issue of Delhi's Outlook magazine, to be released on Saturday. ................

Daily Times

arun · Post by **arun** » 12 Sep 2009 11:43

X Posted from the Pakistan nuclear Proliferation thread.

Article completely misses the point that the best way to have A.Q.Khan punished is to punish the Islamic Republic of Pakistan till it ceases protecting Khan and instead gets down to punishing him:

Punishing A.Q. Khan

How the world can make Pakistan's notorious nuclear smuggler pay for his crimes -- since Islamabad isn't going to.

BY LEONARD S. SPECTOR | SEPTEMBER 10, 2009 ………………..

Foreign Policy

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 12 Sep 2009 17:17

Why Pakistan commemmorates Sep. 6

The fact that India attacked us across the international borders on September 6 and, with a far larger force at its disposal, with the additional advantage of having taken us by surprise, could not inflict a decisive defeat to our forces and was forced to accept a stalemate is indeed a source of consolation. Though all that proves is that the Indian armed forces were even worse led than ours.

Indeed, the counter-offensive through Kasur was a masterstroke and, whoever came up with the plan was a military genius (there are too many claimants to this credit to be sure, but I am of the view that General Gul Hassan, then Director Military Operations, is responsible). General Chaudhry, the then Indian army chief, records in his memoirs that he decided to call off the main effort in Sialkot and the auxiliary one in Lahore at the start of this counter offensive. Fortunately for the Indian armed forces, he decided to delay his decision for twenty-four hours. Had he not done so, the Indian forces would have faced the ignominy of another defeat, rather than just a stalemate.

However, this masterstroke was a disaster. Far from handing us the victory that it could have, it merely ended in leaving behind a few dozen tanks, mired in mud, which the Indians subsequently paraded before the media.

The Pakistan Air Force, its pilots and the oft forgotten ground crew, did us proud. It outfought the Indian Air Force in all departments and, led in person by Air Marshal Nur Khan, is the one service that can claim victory in ‘65. But the PAF commemorates September 7, the day it established its supremacy over the IAF.

The Indians certainly didn’t want this war. They had been defeated by the Chinese in 1962; they had attempted to regain some pride by taking the Rann of Kutch from us earlier the same year and were again defeated.

Lauka · Post by **Lauka** » 12 Sep 2009 22:04

Sept 6 day of shame for Pakis.

Neutral assessments
There have been several neutral assessments of the losses incurred by both India and Pakistan during the war. Most of these assessments agree that India had a upper hand over Pakistan when ceasefire was declared. Some of the neutral assessments are mentioned below —
According to the United States Library of Congress Country Studies:
The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy--on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.[46]
TIME magazine reported that India held 690 mi2 of Pakistan territory while Pakistan held 250 mi2 of Indian territory in Kashmir and Rajasthan. Additionally, Pakistan had lost almost half its armour temporarily.[47] The same article stated that -
Severely mauled by the larger Indian armed forces, Pakistan could continue the fight only by teaming up with Red China and turning its back on the U.N.
Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics"[48] -
The invading Indian forces outfought their Pakistani counterparts and halted their attack on the outskirts of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city. By the time United Nations intervened on September 22, Pakistan had suffered a clear defeat.
In his book "National identity and geopolitical visions",[49] Gertjan Dijkink writes -
The superior Indian forces, however, won a decisive victory and the army could have even marched on into Pakistani territory had external pressure not forced both combatants to cease their war efforts.
An excerpt from Stanley Wolpert's India,[50] summarizing the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, is as follows:
In three weeks the second Indo-Pak War ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on U.S. ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the cease-fire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to Ayub's chagrin.
In his book "War in the modern world since 1815", Jeremy Black mentions that "Pakistan gambled and lost heavily".[51] He also writes about India's missed military opportunities -
India's chief of army staff urged negotiations on the ground that they were running out ammunition and their number of tanks had become seriously depleted. In fact, the army had used less than 15% of its ammunition compared to Pakistan, which had consumed closer to 80 percent and India had double the number of serviceable tanks.
Dennis Kux's "India and the United States estranged democracies" also provides a summary of the war.[52]
Although both sides lost heavily in men and materiel, and neither gained a decisive military advantage, India had the better of the war. New Delhi achieved its basic goal of thwarting Pakistan's attempt to seize Kashmir by force. Pakistan gained nothing from a conflict which it had instigated.
"A region in turmoil: South Asian conflicts since 1947" by Robert Johnson mentions[53] -
India's strategic aims were modest - it aimed to deny Pakistani Army victory, although it ended up in possession of 720 square miles of Pakistani territory for the loss of just 220 of its own.
An excerpt from William M. Carpenter and David G. Wiencek's "Asian security handbook: terrorism and the new security environment"[54] -
A brief but furious 1965 war with India began with a covert Pakistani thrust across the Kashmiri cease-fire line and ended up with the city of Lahore threatened with encirclement by Indian Army. Another UN-sponsored cease-fire left borders unchanged, but Pakistan's vulnerability had again been exposed.
English historian John Keay's "India: A History" provides a summary of the 1965 war[55] -
The 1965 Indo-Pak war lasted barely a month. Pakistan made gains in the Rajasthan desert but its main push against India's Jammu-Srinagar road link was repulsed and Indian tanks advanced to within a sight of Lahore. Both sides claimed victory but India had most to celebrate.
Uk Heo and Shale Asher Horowitz write in their book "Conflict in Asia: Korea, China-Taiwan, and India-Pakistan"[56] -
Again India appeared, logistically at least, to be in a superior position but neither side was able to mobilize enough strength to gain a decisive victory.
Newsweek magazine, however, praised the Pakistani military's ability to hold of the much larger Indian Army.[57]
"By just the end of the week, in fact, it was clear that the Pakistanis were more than holding their own."

Ceasefire
On September 22, the United Nations Security Council unanimously passed a resolution that called for an unconditional ceasefire from both nations. The war ended the following day.
The Soviet Union, led by Premier Alexey Kosygin, hosted ceasefire negotiations in Tashkent (now in Uzbekistan), where Indian Prime Minister Lal Bahadur Shastri and Pakistani President Ayub Khan signed the Tashkent Agreement, agreeing to withdraw to pre-August lines no later than February 25, 1966. The ceasefire was criticized by many Pakistanis who, relying on official reports and the controlled Pakistani press, believed that the leadership had surrendered military gains. The protests led to student riots.[58] Pakistan State's reports had suggested that their military was performing admirably in the war - which they incorrectly blamed as being initiated by India - and thus the Tashkent Declaration was seen as having forfeited the gains.[59] Some recent books written by Pakistani authors, including one by ex-ISI chief titled "The Myth of 1965 Victory",[60] allegedly exposed Pakistani fabrications about the war, but all copies of the book were bought by Pakistan Army to prevent publication because the topic was "too sensitive".[61][62]
India and Pakistan accused each other of ceasefire violations; India charged Pakistan with 585 violations in 34 days, while Pakistan countered with accusations of 450 incidents by India.[63] In addition to the expected exchange of small arms and artillery fire, India reported that Pakistan utilized the ceasefire to capture the Indian village of Chananwalla in the Fazilka sector. This village was recaptured by Indian troops on 25 December. On October 10, a B-57 Canberra on loan to the PAF was damaged by 3 SA-2 missiles fired from the IAF base at Ambala[64] A Pakistani Army Auster was shot down on 16 December, killing one Pakistani army captain and on 2 February 1967, an AOP was shot down by IAF Hunters.
The ceasefire remained in effect until the start of the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971.

REF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1965

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 12 Sep 2009 22:10

SSridhar wrote:Why Pakistan commemmorates Sep. 6

This is like celebrating Hezbollah victory. Hezbollah wins as long as a single guy with a leg and arm blown off can still weakly cry out "jeehard". Never mind the fact that the rest of his friends, his house and his goat have gotten their 72.

Paki victory in '65 was along those lines.

'71 was too bit much to package off as victory. Even then we have the usual "We got 93,000 without giving anything

we won !"

Pakis won Kargil because "the issue was internationalized". Never mind the fact that NLI got its musharraf kicked, and the country had a coup

James B · Post by **James B** » 12 Sep 2009 22:34

China to give $1 billion for 12 dams in Pakistan

James B · Post by **James B** » 12 Sep 2009 22:39

Pakistan rejects US 'AfPak' policy

James B · Post by **James B** » 12 Sep 2009 22:40

Grenades thrown near Wagah border from Pakistani side

According to latest reports available with NDTV two grenades were thrown near Wagah border from Pakistani side on Friday night.

The Border Security Force (BSF) has retaliated by firing mortars and this is for the first time in recent years, sources have told NDTV.

Confirming this to NDTV, BSF IG has said that they have called for an emergency flag meeting with Pakistani Rangers.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 12 Sep 2009 22:44

raghunath wrote:Pakistan rejects US 'AfPak' policy

It is Pak-Af now...

X-Posted from Af-Pakwatch

shravan wrote:Diplomatic Change? Now It's 'Pak-Af' Not 'Af-Pak'

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 12 Sep 2009 22:46

Anujan wrote:
SSridhar wrote:Why Pakistan commemmorates Sep. 6
This is like celebrating Hezbollah victory. Hezbollah wins as long as a single guy with a leg and arm blown off can still weakly cry out "jeehard". Never mind the fact that the rest of his friends, his house and his goat have gotten their 72.

Paki victory in '65 was along those lines.

'71 was too bit much to package off as victory. Even then we have the usual "We got 93,000 without giving anything we won !"

Pakis won Kargil because "the issue was internationalized". Never mind the fact that NLI got its musharraf kicked, and the country had a coup

Victory, pride, etc are a state of mind. In TSP mind, as long as they have inflicted sufficient pain to India's back side, no matter what their losses, its victory. And can you deny that that TSP has inflcited huge pain on India. Even their current travails with USA, every move, every action TSP makes is to make sure it gives USA anything it wants, as long as its position with respect to India is not hurt. Look at TSP basking in glory that it is "fighting terrorism", with sanction from USA. It knows that such a position hurts India and is enjoying the gory spectacle. Pakis remind me of a high school buddy of mine who always cometed with me; as long as his performance is comparable to mine, he was happy, even if both of us were down in the dumps.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 13 Sep 2009 00:19

Pakistan Bought 200 Missiles from N.Korea- A Q Khan

Sadler · Post by **Sadler** » 13 Sep 2009 01:04

Gerard wrote:Pakistan Bought 200 Missiles from N.Korea- A Q Khan

Any ideas on what kind of missiles these were? Range and payload?

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 13 Sep 2009 01:31

A small report. Posting in full

Fazlullah decides to surrender
SWAT (updated on: September 12, 2009, 22:50 PST): Tehreek-e-Taliban head Maulvi Fazlullah decided to surrender. Sources informed Aaj Tv that in the ongoing security forces operation in Swat Fazlullah decided to surrender.
According to the sources before this deployment security forces had wounded him and he was hiding in a cave in badly injured condition. Security forces cordoned off the area of his hide-out, meanwhile Fazlullah decided to surrender.
Sources told Aaj Tv that with in short time security forces will completely finish militancy in Swat and Army have been ordered to finish militancy from Swat before Eid-ul-Fitr.

link

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 13 Sep 2009 03:14

Pak has a blacklist of critical US scribes, NGOs

Pakistan has blacklisted US media personalities and NGOs perceived to be critical of its national security objectives and policies.
The list includes Newsweek magazine’s photojournalist Kate Brooks and news channel CNN’s Pakistan correspondent Riza Sayah.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Sep 2009 05:57

Visa muddle

There have been several letters in the press about the altered UK visa situation and the time being taken to process applications. Many of these are from those seeking nothing more complex than a visit visa for the UK, as they have done in previous years. The relationship between Pakistan and Britain after all is a strong one and as is the case of other nations formerly ruled from London, people visit the island regularly, to holiday, shop, meet family, study or for business. What is worse still is that the information provided on websites for the British High Commission in Islamabad and their commercial partner have acted through much of the summer to mislead people. The seven-week processing time frame laid down was not always met; there was confusion over whether this began from the date an interview was sought or from the submission of documents and there was little information on the status of an application once it had been sent in. Some got passports back within 20 days, others saw no trace of them even after eight or nine weeks.

The processing times shown on the websites have now been pushed up – with most visit visas apparently processed within 90 to 120 days, but there are those who say they have not received passports back even within this time. Also, for obvious reasons, holding up people’s passports for up to four months or more, given only working days count, is extremely inconvenient. The fact that Abu Dhabi, where visas are processed and Pakistanis observe different holidays further complicates the whole business. London and its representatives in Pakistan seriously need to find a solution. Other countries, including those with a high volume of applications and similar security concerns seem able to manage matters more efficiently. The UK must find a way of doing so as well.

Vivek_A · Post by **Vivek_A** » 13 Sep 2009 06:00

Monica doesn't have an op-ed in the sunday edition of the nutty nation...changes with shrill taking over?

Nato jets violate Pakistani airspace
Published: September 13, 2009

LANDI KOTAL - The Nato fighter planes reportedly violated Pakistan’s airspace for almost two hours in different parts of Khyber Agency in the wee hours of Saturday.
According to details, two Nato jet planes were seen hovering over Bacha Mina, Khwaga Khel, Sheikh Mal Khel, Piro Khel, Ashmali Khel, and Loya Shalman areas. In the near past, only the Nato helicopters violated Pakistani air space, however, for the first time the Nato planes have done the same.
The movement of warplanes created unrest and panic among the residents of these localities.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Sep 2009 06:08

Identifying rascality ---- Ejaz Haider

Is there a perspective on the Meera episode other than what the media is dishing out and on which basis the woman has become a laughing stock?

First, let’s get some facts straight and see if the same set of facts can be used for a more sympathetic, if not condonable, view of the woman.

It is a safe bet that she is lying, not just about this marriage but also about being paak-saaf. If she is a virgin then I am St Paul.

Her incomplete Geo TV interview, which at some point gave her a migraine, and in which she swore upon her mother’s and brother’s and her own life that she is unmarried and a virgin before asking the interviewer to switch off the camera is yet another proof, if proof were required, that she has got herself into heavy shit and is now doing whatever she can to get out of it. It’s quite another thing that, caught as she is in a morass, her struggle to get out of it is only pulling her down further.

<SNIP>

It is very likely that Meera has fleeced this guy Attique; it is equally likely that the guy married her for his own pound of flesh (no pun). Of course, it is easy to hang, draw and quarter Meera; not only because despite our modernity we remain entrenched in the culture of spectacle but also because when it comes to a woman, especially a loose one who has got her comeuppance, most of us begin to personify the worst of Victorian morality.

That Meera is loose and knavish we have been told. Consider now another set of facts.
<SNIP>
Attacking Meera from all sides is the game in town. Her English-language skills are being sniggered about, sometimes by those who, on pain of death, can’t speak or write one straight sentence in that language – or, for that matter, any language known to man.
<SNIP>
Meera, I am told, once said, when asked about her education, that she has “done intercourse”. This and other such gems have made her a butt of jokes. I know lots of “respectable” women, born without Meera’s disadvantages, who have been to great institutions and also “done intercourse”. But their respectability, begotten of right credentials or money or contacts or all of that combined and much more, shields them from the harsh scrutiny of this society. There are stories here that would make Meera look positively like an angel.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Sep 2009 06:14

India’s train service proposal approved

ISLAMABAD: The Ministry of Railways has technically approved an Indian proposal to launch a South Asian regional train service between Bangladesh, India and Pakistan and the proposal has been forwarded to the ministry of foreign affairs and the commerce ministry for further evaluation.The proposal had been floated by the Indian railways two weeks ago, officials said. ‘Experts have acknowledged potential of the South Asian route and they see it more easy to operate,’ the officials said, adding that the three countries had broad gauge railway tracks and even the railways’ operating system was similar as it had been established by the British rulers in the region.

The Indian proposal came in the backdrop of reports that the ECO planned to launch an Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul service.

The Indian proposal also said that the proposed service could be a milestone in developing bilateral trade between Pakistan and other Saarc countries like Nepal and Bhutan as these countries would be accessible through the transit trade of this train service.

Officials of the ministry of railways said that experts had suggested Dhaka-Delhi-Lahore train was viable in all respects and if the need arose it could be extended to Karachi or Islamabad.

‘The initial trials would be container operations followed by passenger services,’ the ministry report said.

However, the ministry has forwarded its experts’ report to the foreign office for the feedback over the policy issue.
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pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 13 Sep 2009 06:18

Policeman among three injured in suicide attack

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 13 Sep 2009 09:46

In the US, Chidambaram draws blank with respect to Pakistan

Defence Secretary Robert Gates, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen, with support from Obama's Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan Richard Holbrooke, are now calling the shots with regard to Pakistan and prosecuting the war against Al Qaeda and the Taliban and maintaining a healthy equation with the Pakistan military had taken precedence over all other matters.. . . But they said that at the diplomatic level while Clinton had been strongly bringing up this issue with Pakistan, at the strategic level where Gates, Admiral Mullen and Holbrooke called the shots, "this is no more a pressing priority." . . . "After the scare in the Swat valley (when the Taliban took that area over and held it for some time till the Pakistani military retook the area and drove out the Taliban), the stability of Pakistan has become a sort of overarching priority -- and this means the continued professionalism of the military too -- and no one seems to want to rock the boat as far as the civilian government is concerned."

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Sep 2009 10:39

shravan wrote:
raghunath wrote:Pakistan rejects US 'AfPak' policy
It is Pak-Af now...

X-Posted from Af-Pakwatch

shravan wrote:Diplomatic Change? Now It's 'Pak-Af' Not 'Af-Pak'

Au contraire, it is neither

:

Is it Af-Pak? Is it Pak-Af? It's a Fak-Ap!

Times of India

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 13 Sep 2009 10:53

It has to be PakAf, just notice the 3 bigggg US emabssies coming up in Pakiland.

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Sep 2009 11:07

X Posted.

Is it “Jihad fi Sabilillah” or translated “Jihad in the way of Allah” for the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan to kill fellow Muslim’s during the Muslim holy month of Ramazan? :

Gunships kill 22 Taliban in Tirah

arun · Post by **arun** » 13 Sep 2009 13:28

X Posted.

Hardly surprising that the terrorist sponsoring Islamic Republic of Pakistan has turned a blind eye to the setting up of the facility claiming its is a “small farm to keep cattle” :

Al-Qaeda allies build huge Pakistan base

A banned terrorist group which counts British-born al-Qaeda suspect Rashid Rauf as a member is setting up a huge new base in Pakistan's most heavily populated province.

By Saeed Shah in Bahawalpur
Published: 8:30AM BST 13 Sep 2009

Jaish-e-Mohammad ("army of Mohammad"), which is linked to a series of atrocities including an attack on the Indian parliament and the beheading of the American journalist Daniel Pearl, has walled off a 4.5 acre compound just outside the town of Bahawalpur.

Pakistani authorities have turned a blind eye to the new base, in the far south of Punjab province, even though it is believed to have been built to serve as a radical madrassah - Islamic school - or some kind of training camp.

However, The Sunday Telegraph discovered that it has a fully-tiled swimming pool, stabling for over a dozen horses, an ornamental fountain and even swings and a slide for children – all belying claims by the group and Pakistani officials that the facility is simply a small farm to keep cattle. There were signs of construction activity.

The new facility is known to the regional administration and, with a hefty army cantonment in Bahawalpur, the military would also be aware.

On the inside walls, there are painted jihadist inscriptions, including a warning to "Hindus and Jews", with a picture of Delhi's historic Red Fort, suggesting they will conquer the city.

Telegraph,UK

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 13 Sep 2009 17:03

Sadler wrote:
Gerard wrote:Pakistan Bought 200 Missiles from N.Korea- A Q Khan
Any ideas on what kind of missiles these were? Range and payload?

A.Q.Khan Discusses Pakistan's Nuclear Program
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/pakistan/ ... 083109.pdf

[Malik] Did you //frequently visit// North Korea?
[Khan] I have only been to North Korea twice -- in 1994 and 1999. In 1999, Gen
Musharraf sent me along with Gen Iftikhar, who was the then chief of Air Defense
Command. We were fighting India at Kargil, and we were in dire need of //antiaircraft
missiles//. Musharraf said that we could purchase the missiles from North Korea. We
went to North Korea and purchased 200 missiles from them.

North Korea has soviet origin SA-2, SA-3, and SA-5, SA-7 and SA-16 SAM's according to globalsecurity site.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... rforce.htm

Not related to missiles but something interesting.
...
[Malik] You were accused of having transferred nuclear //technology// to North Korea.
[Khan] These are just accusations. I cannot comment on this topic at the moment.

[Malik] What about Iran?
[Khan] Iran was interested in acquiring nuclear technology. Since Iran was an important
Muslim country, we wished Iran to acquire this technology. Western countries pressured
us unfairly. If Iran succeeds in acquiring nuclear technology, we will be a strong bloc in
the region to counter international pressure. Iran's nuclear capability will neutralize
Israel's power. We had advised Iran to contact the suppliers and purchase equipment
from them.

[Malik] Were the suppliers same as yours?
[Khan] Yes. The Iranian officials would meet them in Dubai. We had told the Iranians
that the suppliers were very //reliable//.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 13 Sep 2009 17:29

'JeM setting up huge training base in Pak's Punjab'

London, Sept 13 (PTI) Outlawed terror group Jaish-e- Mohammad, linked to 2001 attack on the Indian Parliament and the beheading of US journalist Daniel Pearl, is setting up a large new base just outside Bahawalpur town in Pakistan's Punjab province with anti-India inscriptions on its walls.

Pakistani authorities have turned a blind eye to the 6.5 acre base, located in the south of Punjab province, even though it is believed to serve as a radical madrassa or some kind of training camp, The Sunday Telegraph reported.

The terror group was formed by Maulana Masood Azhar, who was released from Indian jail in exchange for passengers of a hijacked Indian plane in 1999, with help from Pakistan's powerful spy agency ISI to be used against India, and the two organisations are understood to remain close, the report said.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 13 Sep 2009 19:14

Mushi has openly admitted of using US aid against india, and goes on to say that paki's nuclear programme is very advanced