Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - September 15, 2009

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 11 Oct 2009 17:38

SSridhar wrote:"I just think that if India and Pakistan can work together then they {why 'they'} can even overtake China in the 21st century," Clinton argued.

Yes why not, if bill wants us to join hands with pakistan and become nuclear proliferators and sponsors of terrorist, we will sure do so.

So whom should India first send the nukes and missiles to?
1) Cuba
2) Venezuela
3) Somalia
I would have added north korea to that list but pakistan already supplied them, so there is no chance of market penetration.

And India should first consider overhauling it's kafir education system to pakistan's binori madrassa standard.

And the indian military should seriously consider conducting coup and hanging their president just like pakistan.

Only then we can join forces with moth-eaten pakistan and overtake china as bill want us to.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 11 Oct 2009 18:29

Expecting Pakbarians to stop using terrorism as state policy after this recent shoot out is like expecting Sivakasi to stop manufacturing crackers because a few workers got killed making them.

sum · Post by **sum** » 11 Oct 2009 18:32

Coming from Tehsil Kahota of Rawalpindi, Muhammad Aqeel alias Dr. Usman is the former sepoy of Army Medical Store. He was the mastermind and leader of the gang of terrorists, who had attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team and, thereafter, Aqeel alias Usman along with the accomplices avoiding arrest had fled to Waziristan. Aqeel accused of planning attack on the former President Pervez Musharraf was also wanted in the case.

Err...wasnt it the evil yindoo and Lankan SDREs who were behind the attack on the cricketers?
Why did a Paki security team travle to Lanka for "investigation" if a TSPA jawan was behind the attack?

Every event is Pakiland throws up 10000000 new questions...

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Oct 2009 18:37

From Washington Post

Despite the Taliban's assertion of responsibility for the attack, some analysts and intelligence officials said the assault bore the hallmark of Indian fighters, who might have been acting in retaliation for a bombing last week outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul, the Afghan capital. Pakistan's intelligence officials have regularly alleged that India, its archrival, supports insurgents fighting in their country.

sum · Post by **sum** » 11 Oct 2009 18:41

some analysts and intelligence officials said the assault bore the hallmark of Indian fighters, who might have been acting in retaliation for a bombing last week outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul, the Afghan capital.

What on earth is a "Indian fighter"??

Of course, I'm not complaining if there is even a grain of truth in the above report (though highly doubtful given the "peaceful" nature of our PM)..

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Oct 2009 18:44

Kabul attack may intensify Indo-Pak Proxy Battle

Across Afghanistan, hundreds of Indian workers and engineers are repairing disintegrated roads and constructing highways. India is building the country's new parliament building. It is running medical missions and training Afghan police officers, diplomats and civil servants, part of a hearts-and-minds offensive to strengthen old ties in a rough neighborhood.

Like archrival Pakistan, India sees Afghanistan as a strategic prize, but its efforts to establish a big footprint there have been set back twice in 15 months by suicide bombings aimed at its widening presence.

In some ways, India and Pakistan have been waging a quiet battle inside Afghanistan, and experts say the latest attack, on Thursday outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul, is bound to intensify that rivalry.

Pakistan's spy agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence, has long had deep ties with elements inside Afghanistan, but large numbers of Indian intelligence operatives are also in Afghanistan to counter Pakistan's influence and to act as a check on Taliban militants, Indian and Pakistani security experts say.

So, Indian efforts at providing better economic opportunities to Afghans is being equated with the terror and misery exported from Pakistan.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 11 Oct 2009 18:50

The Anglo Saxon barbarians have their agenda.The only trump card we have is the pro-Indian govt in Kabul.So long as a pro-Indian govt continues in kabul,we can ignore all the pinpricks from atlanticists and we can cause infinite takleef to our adverseries -Dragon,ASBs.Afghanisthan is more strategic land mass than pakjab to our adversaries.We will reclaim pakjab in due course.

krishnan · Post by **krishnan** » 11 Oct 2009 18:55

What else can they provide? Except for terror and terrorists?

Singha · Post by **Singha** » 11 Oct 2009 18:58

amirkhan would love to cut and run in AF but knows it cannot because if the pak exports take over,
they will train and graduate 10,000 Md Atta types in a couple of years and send them back on EU passports that get visa free entry into khanate.

so they cant really let the pakis take over and will have to tolerate india and the afghan central govt - however much the atlanticist crowd and british lefties loathe both of us.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2009 19:00

Have told US to 'warn' India, says Rehman Malik

Islamabad, Oct 11 (PTI) Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Malik says the US has been told to "warn" India not to meddle in the country's affairs and charged New Delhi with supplying "some kind of terrorism" in Balochistan.

Malik claimed President Asif Ali Zardari has been raising the issue in every forum he has been addressing.

"When talks with Director CIA were held we said very clearly that India should be warned. Whatever we are seeing in Baluchistan we've signatures that they are supplying some kind of terrorism and they must stop it," he said.

During the meeting between Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani and his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh, Malik Said, the issue of Balochistan was raised.

"The proof is that the issue was there in the common communique (joint statement) but later it was removed," he said.

"When Indian Prime Minister returned back there was pressure in Lok Sabha.

So they found the signature of Harvinder Chennaswamy Ganguly on green lotas in Quetta? And what is this penchant for bringing US into each and every statement regarding India? Is it because Unkil has temporarily bought off TSP from attacking SDRES?

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 11 Oct 2009 19:23

When there is a Pak-sponsored terror attack in India, it is not unusual for the Pak rulers to say they sympathise with India and consider us a victim of terrorism just like them. So it should not be in the least bit surprising if the Indian government says that we, too, do view the Pakistanis as a victim of terrorism.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 11 Oct 2009 19:36

One thing after this 'Paki soldiers taken hostage in GHQ siege' episode. Who does the investigation in Pakistan? The civilian police establishment or the Paki ISI chaps? There's no investigation done on BB murder or the attack on the Sri Lankan team. Not one person was identified or arrested. I mean possibly if i or you sat down on that we'd have innumerable clues on the identities of the attackers. See how India got the names, addresses of the Mumbai guys pronto. There's a big difference between Indian investigative capability and the non existent Paki one.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2009 19:51

Who does the investigation in Pakistan?

Usually it is the Scotland Yard or any other TFTA three letter gora boys who investigate what is left of the hosed down evidence. Since the main objective of any investigation in TSP is to cover up the real incident and to impress the mango abdul on the street, the more 'external stake holders' involved the better.

alok_m · Post by **alok_m** » 11 Oct 2009 20:07

SSridhar wrote:From Washington Post
Despite the Taliban's assertion of responsibility for the attack, some analysts and intelligence officials said the assault bore the hallmark of Indian fighters, who might have been acting in retaliation for a bombing last week outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul, the Afghan capital. Pakistan's intelligence officials have regularly alleged that India, its archrival, supports insurgents fighting in their country.

Usual garbage from equalitis afflicted ameerkhan scribes. "Indian fighters" wear red bandana and are trained at Bhopal, Jharkhand. These are just some jahil jihadis from TTP/LJ/JM and this was known to the GHQ. Even with forewarning, they lost SSG kamandoos.

A Punjab home department letter had quoted intelligence gathered by it had revealed that terrorists belonging to the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), in collaboration with the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LJ) and the Jaish-e-Mohammad (JM), were planning to attack the General Headquarters (GHQ), Rawalpindi.

http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_de ... p?Id=24950

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Oct 2009 20:48

Qazi Hussain saheb

Former amir Jamat-e-Islami Qazi Hussain Ahmed has said that peace cannot prevail in the country as long as the rulers continue to remain front line allies of the US.

He said this while addressing a seminar on the occasion of 55th anniversary of Jamai Al-Muntazir here in Model Town on Sunday.

“The US aid is against Islam and Muslims….it is an attack on Islamic ideology and nuclear capability,” Qazi Hussain said.

archan · Post by **archan** » 11 Oct 2009 20:49

Have not heard anything about eh circumcision status of the attackers this time? what gives?

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2009 20:51

it is an attack on Islamic ideology and nuclear capability

Nuke capability==Islamic ideology?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 Oct 2009 20:54

Dilbu wrote:Nuke capability==Islamic ideology?

Pakistani army == Keepers of Islamic ideology

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 11 Oct 2009 20:59

Hardly took 40 Minutes for the TFTA SSG to kill terrorists

The DG ISPR said that the Operation Clearance, which started at 6:00 a.m took only forty minutes for its completion.

alok_m · Post by **alok_m** » 11 Oct 2009 21:00

Dilbu wrote:
Have told US to 'warn' India, says Rehman Malik

Islamabad, Oct 11 (PTI) Pakistan Interior Minister Rehman Malik says the US has been told to "warn" India not to meddle in the country's affairs and charged New Delhi with supplying "some kind of terrorism" in Balochistan.

Malik claimed President Asif Ali Zardari has been raising the issue in every forum he has been addressing.

"When talks with Director CIA were held we said very clearly that India should be warned. Whatever we are seeing in Baluchistan we've signatures that they are supplying some kind of terrorism and they must stop it," he said.

To which PM Manmohan Singh says

Addressing the media, Manmohan said, "The charges leveled by Pakistan are baseless. We are not into the business of exporting terror. The people of Pakistan and the government jolly well knows that these accusations are false."

SES after all was a drafting error!

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 11 Oct 2009 21:06

TSPA is all set for another genocide.
Pakistan 'to strike at militants'

Pakistan will launch an operation against militants in restive South Waziristan "imminently", Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said.

He was speaking hours after militants attacked army HQ in Rawalpindi, killing 11 civilian and army deaths while eight militants were killed.

Mr Malik blamed the attack on the Taliban and al-Qaeda, whose strongholds are in South Waziristan.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 11 Oct 2009 21:11

^^ wrt MMS's reply: MMS and the babu's in GOI are not aware that the Paki's and GOP are convinced India is involved in Baluchistan and funding the bad taliban. 90% Paki's have begun thinking thats the truth. GOI and the WKKs think and assume rationality is dominant in our neighbour. It's not. Time for GOI babu's to understand the real changes on the ground in Pakistan. MMS's statement clearly shows a disconnect with the ground reality in Pakistan.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 11 Oct 2009 21:15

archan wrote:Have not heard anything about eh circumcision status of the attackers this time? what gives?

Status is taken for granted. Those were "injun fighters" after all.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 11 Oct 2009 21:21

India supporting Baloch insurgents: FC IG

The FC chief said proof of Indian involvement had been provided. “The proof has been given at various levels ... Photographs have been provided,” he said, but did not elaborate.

shynee · Post by **shynee** » 11 Oct 2009 21:26

In the Pakistani mountains of Waziristan, young jihadis wait for martyrdom

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 11 Oct 2009 21:33

Apparently, the final militant was captured alive.
One of the militants who was killed was wearing a suicide vest.

alok_m · Post by **alok_m** » 11 Oct 2009 21:35

shynee wrote:In the Pakistani mountains of Waziristan, young jihadis wait for martyrdom

At least the soldier is speaking the truth...I guess after this report his life will end swiftly.

"If the government wanted to get rid of all the Taliban from Waziristan it would be easy," said Dilnawaz Khan, a soldier who served in the Frontier Corps for 18 years before retiring to run a tea stall in the city of Bannu.

"The officials have double standards. They don't really want to crush these Taliban or so-called terrorists because they want to blackmail the Americans to get sympathy and money."

Sanjay M · Post by **Sanjay M** » 11 Oct 2009 21:49

PakArmy: Waziristan Operation Imminent

"The man who has been arrested, his name is Usman. He's a TTP (Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan) guy, but we have some indications he's also from al Qaeda," Malik said

Dipanker · Post by **Dipanker** » 11 Oct 2009 21:59

^^

I will believe when I see it happening. Pakis have been dragging their feet for almost over a year now.

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 11 Oct 2009 22:03

^^

They are waiting for OBL and other important personalities to get out. As soon as they are out, they will bombard houses of common abduls, get 2.5 million refugees and launch another round of begging.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 11 Oct 2009 22:04

Nice header in the Telegraph:

Pakistan army storms its own HQ to end siege by Islamist fighters

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 11 Oct 2009 22:51

Gerard wrote:
archan wrote:Have not heard anything about eh circumcision status of the attackers this time? what gives?
Status is taken for granted. Those were "injun fighters" after all.

looks like all those lobbyists that the pak gubomint hires in DC are earning their money in their briefings to journalists on the side...

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 11 Oct 2009 23:02

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Prem · Post by **Prem** » 11 Oct 2009 23:14

CRamS wrote: "
"I just think that if India and Pakistan can work together then they {why 'they'} can even overtake China in the 21st century," Clinton argued.

This above is very silly observation meant to be swallowed by G&D, Gangudins and Dhimmis .India is held back onlee by the incompetence of Babbus and Buddde politcians but changing now and will gather pace by the day.

shravan · Post by **shravan** » 11 Oct 2009 23:36

Gilani urges Japanese govt to expedite assistance of $ one billion

ISLAMABAD, Oct 11 (APP): Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani urged the government of Japan to expedite its contribution of US $ one billion pledged at Donor Conference in Tokyo earlier this year to help Pakistan in implementation of its Malakand strategy of reconstruction and rehabilitation.

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 12 Oct 2009 01:08

CRamS wrote:
And these bloody stupid pan IIT meets are 'feel good' get togethetrs, as thoiugh thosde who didn't graduate from IIT are second class. I am an ex IITian, but for sure, I am no where compared to the achievements of many, many non IITians.

We send the juniors to these conf to check it out.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 12 Oct 2009 01:40

Just another piece of propaganda that folks diss out against India: " 750 million people earn less than $2 a day in India". Well lets take the US. 300 m people. Does everyone earn? Obviously no. Average family size in US? 4. That means 75 million people are bread earners. Ok assume 2 people are bread earners that leaves 150 million Americans earn less than $1 a day. 50% of the population. Children in the US don't work too.

Similarly in India there are around 300 million bread earners. so obviously around 800 million people earn nothing to less than a 1$ a day. Does not imply they're starving or living in more poverty than the Subsaharan area. Thats falsehood.

These arguments are flying around the net without being challenged adequately. Just thought i'd put it up here.

James B · Post by **James B** » 12 Oct 2009 02:28

Pak President contemplating to replace Army Chief

Amidst rising tension between Pakistan’s civilian government and the country’s military tops brass over some controversial provisions of the Kerry-Lugar Bill, there are reports that President Asif Zardari has been contemplating to replace Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayani for his persistent opposition to the USD 7.5 billion American financial assistance programme.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 12 Oct 2009 03:57

Pakistani Police Had Warned Army About a Raid
Really? what was the point?

Pranay · Post by **Pranay** » 12 Oct 2009 04:42

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

Some more details of the attack...

The attack on Saturday showed intimate knowledge of the layout of the military headquarters in Rawalpindi and was skillfully planned, said a retired Pakistani Army brigadier and special forces officer, Javed Hussain.

The attackers, apparently driving in one van, managed to drive easily through the first security post on the main road into the headquarters, Brigadier Hussain said. At a second security post soldiers opened fire, and four of the attackers were killed.

But four or five of the attackers survived the firefight at the second post and appeared to have made a beeline on foot for the military intelligence building, which is close to the main entrance, according to accounts from military officials.

The hostages, including soldiers and civilians, were held in two rooms in the one-story military intelligence directorate building inside the headquarters, according to several army officers, who declined to be identified because they were not authorized to speak to the news media.

Among those killed in the attack was Brig. Anwar Ul Haq, the director of security for military intelligence. He was shot in the first hour of the siege by one of the gunmen who had penetrated his building, according to relatives of the brigadier who attended his funeral Sunday.

When Brigadier Ul Haq heard shooting, he interrupted a conference he was conducting and went into the corridor with an aide, according to the relatives’ accounts. When he saw a man in military uniform with his back turned to him, the brigadier told him to flee, but instead, the man turned around and shot the brigadier, the relatives said.

The hostage-takers held their captives in at least two groups, military officials said. In one room, 22 hostages were clustered with three assailants, one of whom wore a suicide bomb jacket. There were 12 hostages in another room, where another assailant wore a suicide jacket.

In their assault to free the hostages, special commandos successfully killed one would-be suicide bomber, but other militants in the room fired at two of the commandos, killing them, a military official said.

As commandos approached the second room, another suicide bomber blew himself up, bringing down the roof and causing injuries among the captives, the military official said.