The former military dictator claims that the Quetta Shura and news of the presence of Mullah Omar in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan are lie’s invented by India and supported by the Indian influenced Afghan intelligence:
FAREED ZAKARIA GPS
Assessment of Obama's First Year in Office; Interview With Pervez Musharraf
Aired November 8, 2009 - 13:20 ET ……………………
ZAKARIA: OK, let me ask you about Waziristan, since we've now gotten into the details of this area in Pakistan.
As you said, in South Waziristan, there is what is often called the Pakistani Taliban, headed by Baitullah Mehsud, who was just assassinated by a drone attack.
There are some people, Ahmed Rashid, a Pakistani journalist, who says this is a moment of truth for the Pakistani army, because they are mounting an attack against -- in South Waziristan -- against the forces of Baitullah Mehsud, who are the Pakistani Taliban, the Taliban that attack the Pakistani state.
But in North Waziristan you have the other elements of extremist groups, radical groups, the so-called Haqqani faction of the Taliban, the Afghan Taliban -- the people who tend to launch attacks against Afghanistan, against India, against places outside Pakistan.
This is the Pakistan army's moment of truth. Will it take on both the Talibans? Or will it only take on the extremist groups that threaten Pakistan?
MUSHARRAF: Yes, you are absolutely right, that there are various elements, as you said, in South Waziristan and in North Waziristan.
I have been telling since long, since three or four years, please give me drones. I want to look at this Baitullah Mehsud, because he's the one who assassinated Benazir Bhutto. And he is the one who is carrying out these suicide attacks, indoctrinating people. Dozens of suicide attackers we know have been indoctrinated. They are going to carry out bomb attacks.
ZAKARIA: The argument is that, you know, the Pakistani army somehow never seems to get around to attacking, in North Waziristan, those groups who attack either Afghanistan or Western targets or India. And the reason is that these groups, who were often supported in the past -- not now, but in the past -- by the Pakistani military. And that, therefore, somehow in this planning process, you never get around to North Waziristan.
MUSHARRAF: They will not support it. They will not support it. That was not the government policy. That was not the military policy.
However, there was ingress -- always, in every group -- there is an ingress of the ISI. And that is the efficiency, the effectiveness of the ISI. You must have ingress, so that you can influence all organizations. And it is this ingress of theirs -- which doesn't mean that they are supporting them, but they have ingress. They have some contacts, which can be used for their own advantage. ………………
ZAKARIA: But you know, just look. American intelligence, the Afghan government, Afghan intelligence all say, Mullah Omar is in Pakistan.
MUSHARRAF: Afghan intelligence, Afghan president, Afghan government. Don't talk of them. I know what they do. They are, by design, they mislead the world. They talk against Pakistan, because they are under the influence of Indian intelligence -- all of them.
The Afghan intelligence entirely under the influence of Indian intelligence. We know that.
ZAKARIA: But General Musharraf...
MUSHARRAF: Let me come back to Quetta Shura. I must (ph)...
ZAKARIA: ... but you've -- this is important, because you are revealing why people, many, many people feel that Pakistan has a very antagonistic attitude towards Afghanistan.
You view Afghanistan as a client state of India. And therefore, you do not -- you are not willing to really help Afghanistan succeed.
MUSHARRAF: No, not at all. That is not the case.
Whatever I am saying, I am not saying it here. I have given documentary evidence of all this to everyone. There is the documentary evidence. And we know the involvement of Indian intelligence, in India, with their intelligence.
I have given documentary evidence to everyone from top to bottom. Everyone knows it. And we have the documentary evidence. ………………..
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