Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Sanjay M » 12 Nov 2009 01:25

SSridhar wrote:Presidency suggests 'Zardari' as father's name for all orphans
The Senate’s Standing Committee on Social Welfare and Special Education on Tuesday considered putting President Asif Zardari’s name in the ‘father’s name’ column in orphans’ legal documents.



Sounds very Ceaucescu.

Meanwhile, Pakistani music popstars write songs condemning West and not Taliban:

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/ ... istan-pop/

Be sure to watch the video embedded in the article.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Anujan » 12 Nov 2009 01:35

Prem wrote:Anujan,
This is why the physical and metaphysical liquidation of Paki animal is pre-requisite for creating peaceful South Asia rooted in soil.


What came out of it was quite funny and pathetic at times (whatever I remember of whiskey clouded evening). The reason Paki takleef is MAJOR is because everyone at Paki higher echelons were convinced by by Amri-Khan psy-ops types (atleast from what I gather) that Paki Madrassa-Mujahid IEDology was a perfect partner and complement to Amri-khan Capitalism-democracy ideology. Regan sipped zam zam cola with Mujahids and and once Unkil won and Balkanized SU, then came the junior partner's turn for the Madrassa-Mujahid IEDology to win against SDRE's pathetic sekularism-pluralism ideology.

So someone showed a carrot and took Pakis down the garden route. Except when that someone suddenly left after his job got done, Pakis were bewildered like a jhappad across their face. (This is a slight change to the narrative of Paki chanakyans milking all money from clueless Amri-Khans during the Soviet jihad days. The deception seems to have been mutual. The story of chanakyan pakis seems to have been spun to save--what else ?--H&D)

Anticipating heavy losses of Pakistani mujahids, I wouldnt be surprised if there were a Khan psy-ops types working in Pakistan to keep the Paki Jernail, Politician and Public opinion favorable to the Mujahid cause.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby ramana » 12 Nov 2009 02:02

GP op-ed in Pioneer

EDITS | Thursday, November 12, 2009 | Email | Print |


India just can’t read Pakistan

G Parthasarathy

Developments in Afghanistan and Pakistan will figure prominently when Prime Minister Manmohan Singh visits the Obama White House on November 24. The Obama Administration has handled events related to the recent re-election of Mr Hamid Karzai as President of Afghanistan in a crude and insensitive manner. By publicly humiliating Mr Karzai, Washington has only weakened a leader set to play a crucial role in emerging developments in Afghanistan. Moreover, the prolonged period that the Obama Administration has taken to review its policies on Afghanistan has given an impression of dithering and uncertainty on the most crucial foreign policy challenge that Washington faces today. This has only confused countries like India which have sought to complement Washington’s efforts to strengthen Afghanistan internally. These developments are also encouraging the Taliban and Al Qaeda to believe that they will succeed in efforts to promote terrorism globally.

Vice President Joseph Biden reportedly advocates action against Taliban and Al Qaeda hideouts in Pakistan, and even as Mr Obama pondered over what to do next in Afghanistan, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton paid a well-planned visit to Pakistan intended to reassure the Pakistanis of American commitment to their welfare, stability and prosperity. The visit came at a time when the Pakistani Army establishment led by Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani had joined forces with the Opposition Muslim League led by former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to undermine President Asif Ali Zardari by voicing serious reservations and calling for the rejection of the Kerry-Lugar Act, which pledges $ 7.5 billion in assistance to Pakistan. The aid comes at a time when Pakistan’s own revenues cannot even meet the cost of the Government’s administrative expenditure with Pakistan’s economic growth having plummeted to two per cent in 2008-2009. :rotfl:

The longest meeting that Ms Clinton had in Islamabad was not with President Zardari or Prime Minister Yousaf Gilani, but with Gen Kayani together with ISI Chief Lt Gen Shuja Pasha, with whom she spent three hours. After the meeting with the Army brass and irked by orchestrated criticism of US policies while in Lahore, which echoed what she heard in Islamabad, Ms Clinton publicly voiced her misgivings about continuing support by Pakistan’s military establishment for the Taliban and Al Qaeda. On October 29 she said: “Al Qaeda has had a safe haven in Pakistan since 2002. I find it difficult to believe that nobody in your Government knows where they are, and couldn’t get them, if they really wanted to”. Cautioning Pakistan on cross-border terrorism it promotes in neighbouring India and Afghanistan Ms Clinton asserted: “If we are going to have a mature partnership where we work together, there are issues that not just the United States, but others have with your Government and your military security establishment”.

Pakistan’s military and its political allies do not appear to have been affected by Ms Clinton’s public admonition. While the military continues its operations against the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan in South Waziristan, primarily because the TTP has challenged the Army’s, the ISI continues to back Taliban military commanders led by Sirajuddin Haqqani in neighbouring North Waziristan who have relentlessly staged terrorist attacks in Afghanistan, including on the Indian Embassy in Kabul and on Indian workers throughout Afghanistan. Moreover, the Taliban political leadership led by Mullah Omar, popularly known as the ‘Quetta Shura’, remains comfortably ensconced in Quetta. While reviewing policies on Afghanistan, the Obama Administration will sooner or later have to decide on whether it can realistically contain the Taliban or its Al Qaeda allies in Afghanistan without exercising the ‘Biden Option’ of striking at their bases in Pakistan across the Durand Line.

Recent revelations by the FBI of the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba links of two Chicago residents of Pakistani origin, who were plotting terrorist strikes against targets in Denmark and India, clearly establish that Pakistan-based terrorist organisations like the LeT now have a worldwide reach and, like the Al Qaeda, a worldwide agenda of terrorism. The terrorist attacks planned against India were intended to be a continuation of the earlier terrorist strikes on Mumbai and elsewhere. The prime accused, Daood Gilani aka David Headley, was in touch with Ilyas Kashmiri, a former Pakistan Army commando of Pakistan’s elite Special Services Group. Kashmiri was used by the ISI in the 1980s for training the Afghan mujahideen and in the 1990s for terrorism in Jammu & Kashmir. He escaped after being captured by Indian forces in Poonch in 1994. Interestingly, while Kashmiri was later charged with an attempt to assassinate Gen Pervez Musharraf and for the assassination of a former commander of the SSG, Maj Gen Faisal Alvi in 2008, he was allowed to get away and seek refuge in North Waziristan alongside Afghan Taliban military commander Sirajuddin Haqqani, who Gen Kayani reportedly regards as a ‘strategic asset’ of the ISI.

The LeT was reportedly planning to attack elite schools in north India, reminiscent of the attack by Chechen terrorists in Beslan, which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of school children. Chechen terrorists have long-standing links with the Taliban, Al Qaeda, the LeT and with political parties in Pakistan like the Jamat-e-Islami. Home Minister P Chidambaram and the Indian Army chief have warned that future terrorist attacks will not go unpunished. Interestingly, the establishment’s reaction in Pakistan to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s speech in Kashmir was voiced by former Senator and Muslim League politician, Mr Mushahid Hussain, who has long-standing links with the Pakistani Army and the LeT. Mr Hussain asserted that Mr Singh’s recent readiness for unconditional dialogue was because of growing fears in India about Maoist violence, insinuating that the offer for talks was because of India’s internal compulsions.

India has continuously misread the internal dynamics of Pakistan. Even in late 2007, our High Commission in Islamabad and luminaries in South Block believed that Gen Musharraf remained strong and virtually invincible. Right now there seems to be little appreciation of the fact that it is Gen Kayani and not President Zardari who determines and dictates policy in Islamabad. Anyone who knows Gen Kayani’s approach to relations with India, even from the days he commanded the 12th Infantry Division in Murree, knows that he is pathologically anti-Indian and regards the Lashkar-e-Tayyeba and the Afghan Taliban as ‘strategic assets’. Mr Singh needs to convey these realities to Washington while responding to any calls for a revival of the composite dialogue process.


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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Anujan » 12 Nov 2009 02:09

The most interesting part of Seymour Hersh interview was when he compared american involvement with pakistan as discarding a "used dixie cup".

At BRF we have a more colorful methaphor :P

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby ramana » 12 Nov 2009 02:12

SanjayM, Welcome back.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 12 Nov 2009 02:19

G Parthasarathy wrote:The LeT was reportedly planning to attack elite schools in north India, reminiscent of the attack by Chechen terrorists in Beslan, which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of school children.

I only heard of speculation (Singha IIRC) of this kind of attack by BR posters, any other external source?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Prem » 12 Nov 2009 02:22

ramana wrote:GP op-ed in Pioneer
India just can’t read Pakistan
G Parthasarathy
The LeT was reportedly planning to attack elite schools in north India, reminiscent of the [b]attack by Chechen terrorists in Beslan, which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of school children.[/b] Chechen terrorists have long-standing links with the Taliban, Al Qaeda, the LeT and with political parties in Pakistan like the Jamat-e-Islami. Home Minister P Chidambaram and the Indian Army chief have warned that future terrorist attacks will not go unpunished.


GP has always read them right. Beslan ( i mentined this 2 weeks ago) type incident will invoke strategic response by GOI. Pakis better get ready for jahannum pilgrimage as it will be licence for india to fry and pop them like pocorns. No Ummah, Chinna or Dhimma will come to save their skin.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Lisa » 12 Nov 2009 03:43

SSridhar wrote:Madam's Apoplexy
My apologies if already posted.



. . . But the New Delhi-Mossad contacts had already evolved after Israel was allowed to open a consulate in Mumbai in the 1950s, even before India established full diplomatic relations with Israel. . . .After all, how does Pakistan ensure that the US covert operatives coming in without observing any immigration formalities are not also Israeli citizens? After all, many travel on non-Israeli passports? How do we know that our information sharing with the US is not travelling to New Delhi and Tel Aviv?{Madam is skating on thin ice once again. Hasn;t learnt from from the whackings she has received recently}



I personally believe that it is very important to stroke these fears and
CTs....An Indian company owns the underwater telegraphic cables that
connect Pukistan to the world and under the direction of RAW this
company is currently installing devices to record all Pukistani comms and
forwarding them to a special intelligence cell for decoding. For this reason
pukistanis must all stop using phones, faxes, internet..... :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby James B » 12 Nov 2009 04:57

Identity crisis

A Paki is a Paki no matter where and what. Those complaining of racism abroad should also look at the way they’re treated at home. Please get it right: it is not always your colour or, of late, religion that may be responsible for the way you’re treated by goras and Arabs alike; it is the Pakistani identity. Those who are known to have little respect at home can lay claim to even less while in foreign lands.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SureshP » 12 Nov 2009 05:01

Shirleen gets a broadside from the Jang newspaper group editorial. :eek:

Shoddy journalism


Thursday, November 12, 2009
Journalists lead dangerous lives in Pakistan. They are targeted by the terrorists whose actions they report and by politicians and bureaucrats whose failings and indiscretions they expose. All this is to be expected. What a working journalist may not expect, however, is to be stabbed in the back by one of his own, as has recently happened to Matthew Rosenberg, a journalist working for the Wall Street Journal. Mr Rosenberg has been accused in a local newspaper of having links to the CIA and Mossad and of acting in some undefined way as an agent of Blackwater. As if this were not enough to blight his life and career, he is further accused of having 'secret' meetings with Secretary Law and Order FATA Secretariat, Tariq Hayat Khan, and Additional Chief Secretary FATA, Habib Khan. Both are said to have 'fed' documents to Mr Rosenberg, thereby implicating them in his alleged espionage activities. The story is based upon information from a nameless source and has no supporting evidence. Mr Rosenberg has had to leave the country and is unlikely to be working here in the foreseeable future.

The editor of the Wall Street Journal has rightly and robustly sprung to the defence of his journalist and written to the editor of the newspaper that printed the story. The opening paragraph of his letter reads … "As a fellow editor I am writing to convey in the strongest possible terms our dismay and disgust over the slanderous falsehoods published on the front page of your newspaper on November 5th regarding our reporter Matthew Rosenberg." We might add 'grossly irresponsible' and 'unprofessional' to the list of printable adjectives that may be applied to this dangerous travesty of journalism. Accusations such as this, based on information from a single unnamed source are life-threatening in their gravity. At the very least there should one other corroborating source and preferably more than one where accusations as grave as this are made. The electronic media has recently reached a voluntary agreement to 'clean up its act'; and perhaps some sections of the print media need to do the same.


http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=207983

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby James B » 12 Nov 2009 05:27

Tragedy of the talk shows —Elf Habib

The shows obsessively promote the political circus splashing the spicier rhetoric and sensation. Their anchors, contrary to the common norms of calmness, insouciance and neutrality are often quite agitated, flippant and biased on certain issues. Some are almost too rapacious to devour their guests :rotfl:


Touting the nuclear weapons as the most marvellous and sacrosanct achievement worthy of all human and socio-economic sacrifices is another media passion. Contrary to the global norms of accepting the people as our prime national asset and resource, the media has ironically glorified the nuclear arsenals as the national assets (asaasay). Nuclear stocks and the Taliban were, in fact, edified as the two great national assets. The Taliban trove has already turned devastatingly toxic :rotfl: making one shudder at the fate and future of the second asset. :lol: The media, of course, never emphasises that the largest nuclear stocks on earth could not save the Soviet Union from splintering, secure the safety of Israel or procure food, fuel and medicine for North Korea. They were no deterrent against the debacle and ignominy at Kargil, Taliban terror, the tension following the Mumbai carnage and the begging bowl syndrome.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Anujan » 12 Nov 2009 05:46

Pakistan Rock Rails Against the West, Not the Taliban

Please watch the video. Some of the music is actually good.

What I find funny is Paki rockers saying "taliban is not the problem man ! Who funds them ? The west ! why ? they want to eradicate Islam !!" (so you want to fund a islamist group to eradicate islam ? nice lahori logic). Anyway, I agree with and support the rockers 200,000% and am waiting for the talibs to take over Pakistan and the "explosion" in the music and western rock scene afterwards. Cant wait for interesting times ahead !

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby anishns » 12 Nov 2009 07:41

hahahahaha :)
Definitely a must watch! And as for the AmirKhan's....what can one say? Money well spent i.e. paisa vasool


Anujan wrote:Pakistan Rock Rails Against the West, Not the Taliban

Please watch the video. Some of the music is actually good.

What I find funny is Paki rockers saying "taliban is not the problem man ! Who funds them ? The west ! why ? they want to eradicate Islam !!" (so you want to fund a islamist group to eradicate islam ? nice lahori logic). Anyway, I agree with and support the rockers 200,000% and am waiting for the talibs to take over Pakistan and the "explosion" in the music and western rock scene afterwards. Cant wait for interesting times ahead !

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arnab » 12 Nov 2009 08:16

Pagal is turning against Mushy. Diminishing returns setting in?

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=207988

In Pakistan merit normally is a disqualifier, in the Pakistani Army both merit and combat experience combined were huge disqualifiers during Musharraf's reign. Members of the military hierarchy were chosen by Musharraf wholly and solely for personal loyalty rather than their professionalism. Like him they mostly lacked combat experience.


President only because he was the COAS of the Army, Musharraf never visited his troops in FATA, a singular lack of interest in the military operations or, for that matter, the welfare and contentment of troops engaged in battle.


correction - he seems to be hedging, and apparently the army was into real estate only in the dark 'post 2002' period, and now (under the able guidence of Kayani) they are back to being a professional army :P

This is a very different army from the "civil-isation" of the uniform assiduously fostered by Musharraf post-2002 to keep his officer corps happy by showering "perks" on them. Our brigade and divisional commanders are now very much in the thick of battle instead of being thick in real estate and the stock market. Even then, relatively speaking, his rule was certainly better than what we are experiencing today. However, it nurtured the seeds for the degeneration of our society.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby pgbhat » 12 Nov 2009 09:09

Ikram Sehgal wrote:In Pakistan merit normally is a disqualifier, in the Pakistani Army both merit and combat experience combined were huge disqualifiers during Musharraf's reign. Members of the military hierarchy were chosen by Musharraf wholly and solely for personal loyalty rather than their professionalism. Like him they mostly lacked combat experience.

Kamandu and lack of "combat experience"?? this is utter BS, how can he say that?? Kamandu has more experience in downhill skiing than all other Paki Jernails.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Malayappan » 12 Nov 2009 09:32

anupmisra wrote:
KV Rao wrote:Leave the broad alone, she's the best ally India could have. :-)


In the short run, yes that may be true. But you are judged by the company you keep.


Sometimes I tend to think Madam is a RAW asset! Facilitating Psy Ops, damning the one hand that has sincerely fed them (= US), delivering mad inputs from positions of power all contribute systematically to the weakening of pakistan as a viable modern state. Just think - a sincere believer / follower of Madam, can have no confidence on pakistan, its rulers or whatever passes off as its institutions.

In that sense, Lage Raho madam!

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby sum » 12 Nov 2009 09:38

Pakis better get ready for jahannum pilgrimage as it will be licence for india to fry and pop them like pocorns. No Ummah, Chinna or Dhimma will come to save their skin.

Wouldn't hold my breath on that...expect our leadership to chicken out and find new excuses to do so every time..

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Vivek Kumar » 12 Nov 2009 10:26

Pakistan is not a nation, it's an abomination. 8)

Just couldn't resist even if it may not fit in with ongoing discussion.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arnab » 12 Nov 2009 10:49

Vivek Kumar wrote:Pakistan is not a nation, it's an abomination. 8)

Just couldn't resist even if it may not fit in with ongoing discussion.


Well it can also be a damnation, a hallucination and for BRF a fascination :)

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Rahul M » 12 Nov 2009 10:56

arnab wrote:
Vivek Kumar wrote:Pakistan is not a nation, it's an abomination. 8)

Just couldn't resist even if it may not fit in with ongoing discussion.


Well it can also be a damnation, a hallucination and for BRF a fascination :)

post of the day ! :lol:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Avinash R » 12 Nov 2009 11:06


TheNewYorkTimes
November 11, 2009
Pakistani pop musicians are propelling anti-American conspiracy theories. The lyrics reflect widespread views among their young educated fans who say the Taliban is not Pakistan's problem.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 12 Nov 2009 11:13

X Posted.

The possibility of a link between Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the perpetrator of the Fort Hood terrorist attack and that epicenter of global terrorism, the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, is being examined per US legislator Pete Hoekstra:

Fort Hood suspect may have wired money to Pakistan

11:30 PM CST on Wednesday, November 11, 2009
By DAVE MICHAELS / The Dallas Morning News

WASHINGTON – Authorities have been examining whether Fort Hood massacre suspect Nidal Malik Hasan wired money to Pakistan in recent months, an action that one senior lawmaker said would raise serious questions about Hasan's possible connections to Militant Islamic groups.

Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., said sources "outside of the [intelligence] community" learned about Hasan's possible connections to the Asian country, which faces a massive Islamist insurgency and is widely believed to be Osama bin Laden's hiding place.

Hoekstra, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, would not identify the sources. But he said "they are trying to follow up on it because they recognize that if there are communications – phone or money transfers with somebody in Pakistan – it just raises a whole other level of questions." .........................

Dallas Morning News

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Suppiah » 12 Nov 2009 11:29

arnab wrote:
Vivek Kumar wrote:Pakistan is not a nation, it's an abomination. 8)

Just couldn't resist even if it may not fit in with ongoing discussion.


Well it can also be a damnation, a hallucination and for BRF a fascination :)


TSP is not a state, it is a state of mind. Anyone that is a fanatic barbarian, jehadi terrorist animal is automatically a Paki. To be a genuine, pure Paki is to be a jehadi terrorist pig.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Suppiah » 12 Nov 2009 11:30

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8355076.stm

No vacuum but land of pure is keeping the 72s busy..

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Anujan » 12 Nov 2009 11:32

Suppiah wrote:No vacuum but land of pure is keeping the 72s busy..


Not to worry, an explosion was "heard" in P'shawar ring road a few minutes ago.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby shravan » 12 Nov 2009 11:36

Iran mission official shot dead in Pakistan: police

(AFP)

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — Gunmen shot dead a Pakistani spokesman for the Iranian consulate in the northwestern city of Peshawar on Thursday as he was on his way to work, police said.

Attackers targeted Abu Al-Hasan Jaffry, director of public relations and protocol at the consulate in Peshawar, as he left for the office in his car, senior police official Nisar Marwat told AFP.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby arun » 12 Nov 2009 12:21

Notwithstanding being fellow Islamic Republics, serving Iran in Pakistan is a fraught occupation.

This is not the first time that an individual serving Iran has run into strife in Pakistan Back on November 13, 2008 Iran’s commercial attaché, Heshmatollah Attarzadeh-Niyaki was kidnapped. He still remains in captivity.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 12 Nov 2009 12:29

New Delhi wakes up
As an immediate fall out of the FBI foiling a LeT plot to use US nationals to carry out major terror attacks in India, the Indian Embassy in New Delhi has tightened visa approval norms for Pakistan-born American citizens, whose applications would now have to be cleared by New Delhi.

It should be for all Pak-born applicants from all over the world intending to visit India.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 12 Nov 2009 12:35

Robin Returns?
There are a few issues though.
It may well have been some kind of balancing act due to appointment of an India-American as USAID chief

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby Singha » 12 Nov 2009 13:07

all EU based PPO (person of paki origins) had better be checked too. some of the names and looks are indistinguishable from mid-east types.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby AdityaM » 12 Nov 2009 13:15

Wazir-e-azam is at it again!!
The return of the 10%ti
:rotfl:
Zardari got millions as bribe in submarine deal: French daily

In addition, the daily said investigators believed that the non-payment of the full amount of the agreed kickbacks may have led to the deaths of 11 French nationals in a 2002 terror attack in the port city of Karachi. :shock:

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 12 Nov 2009 13:30

AdityaM wrote:Wazir-e-azam is at it again!!

Events are moving fast for the Sadr-e-Mumlikat . It really is a crown of thorns for anybody other than a Chief Martial Law Administrator in the pureland.
Does SeM has emergency powers that he can exercise at this stage? Something has to be done by him. Else, it is curtains (NRO is the biggest issue).

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 12 Nov 2009 13:33

Some testing of waters ?
Pakistan's Supreme Court has listed a graft as well as a criminal case against President Asif Ali Zardari for hearing on November 16 and 17, raising fresh questions about his fate.

Amirkhan may not really be interested in a change.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 12 Nov 2009 13:42

Singha wrote:all EU based PPO (person of paki origins) had better be checked too. some of the names and looks are indistinguishable from mid-east types.

Anybody with a Pakistani connection (either born there, one or both parents from there, or visited Pakistan at all) must be interviewed by embassy/consular staff before issuing visa. If it causes some inconvenience to visa-seekers, so be it.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 12 Nov 2009 13:59

Pakistani's view on that Hersh article
As for Pakistan, they made the wrong choice of losing the status of non-alignment when they succumbed to the US pressure to break all rules of diplomacy and accept the terms dictated by Secretary of State Colin Powell. Now Pakistan is viewed with suspicion by its neighbours as a satellite of the US, which creates a security risk of its own.


How can this author assume that readers are fools ?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 12 Nov 2009 14:19

Groper behind MMS and OBL in the list of powerful people
This is YYY kanspiracee you know.
Dawood is not ahead of him.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby SSridhar » 12 Nov 2009 14:33

I don't know how is this list formed. For example, a rogue nation's leader, Kim Jong of North Korea, is at position 24. If roguish behaviour is a qualification, Pakistani leaders should be at the top, within the top ten. If size of economy, strength of political and military power, population, size of the nation, are to be the determinants, then North Korea can not figure in the list at all.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby kenop » 12 Nov 2009 15:15

OT, but the authors had a thought along these lines
Power has been called many things. The ultimate aphrodisiac. An absolute corrupter. A mistress. A violin. But its true nature remains elusive. After all, a head of state wields a very different sort of power than a religious figure. Can one really compare the influence of a journalist to that of a terrorist? And is power unexercised power at all?
In compiling our first ranking of the World's Most Powerful People we wrestled with these questions--and many more--before deciding to define power in four dimensions ....

It is Pagerank applied to real life to start with.

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby James B » 12 Nov 2009 16:59

A nation of sleepwalkers

Here we have a university that was attacked by a psychotic suicide bomber who slaughtered and injured dozens of students so he could get his share of hooris in Paradise. The attack was then proudly owned by the Tekrik-e-Taliban Pakistan. And in its wake, we saw enraged students protesting against the Kerry-Lugar act? What a response!(only in pakistan) :lol:

What did the Kerry-Lugar act have to do with the suicide attack? Wasn’t this remarkably idiotic ‘protest rally’ by the students actually an insult to those who were so mercilessly slaughtered by holy barbarians?

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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

Postby R Atkinson » 12 Nov 2009 20:23

Not sure if this is the right thread but nonetheless, this is an interesting piece.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009 ... table=true


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