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Update on Swat attack

ANP MPA killed in suicide attack
SWAT: ANP MPA Dr. Shamsher Ali Khan was killed on Tuesday in a suicide attack outside his house in Dehri area of Kabal tehsil in Swat, according to officials.

The bomber, who was on on foot, targeted a guest house owned by Khan, a member of the secular Awami National Party, which dominates the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) assembly.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... tack-ss-05
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Gilani: Of course there are Pakistani militants but the insurgencies are driven by foreign elements.

SPIEGEL: Let us guess: You believe that the Indian intelligence service is behind it.
Is the SPIEGEL reporter being sarcastic here?
Good ol' squeezer plays along without realizing the sarcasm..
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arun wrote:Kamran Shafi of Dawn receives death threats and had his house shot at. Kamran Shafi believes that “the threat were from inside the powerful security establishment, possibly from the military’s intelligence arm, Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI.”:

Pakistani Journalist Critical of the Military Is Threatened
One interesting nugget from the above
at exactly 17:33 on Nov 28, 2009, I received a telephone call from a woman speaking in uneducated Urdu and using a mobile phone. She asked if I was Kamran Shafi. When I said I was, she said that what had happened to me last night was just the ‘trailer’ and that the complete movie would also be shown.
Didn't we hear the very same words during 26/11 ?
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^^^ that is right. it was the handler who instructed the pigs that if the media were to call, they must say this is just the trailer the full movie is yet to come. iirc this was said to the pigs at chabad house.
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sum wrote:
Gilani: Of course there are Pakistani militants but the insurgencies are driven by foreign elements.

SPIEGEL: Let us guess: You believe that the Indian intelligence service is behind it.
Is the SPIEGEL reporter being sarcastic here?
Good ol' squeezer plays along without realizing the sarcasm..
I thought so too. :D
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Reality bites pookis
The real world of finance.

Pakistan gets only $345m of $1.61bn World Bank pledge
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has received only $345 million of the $1.61 billion commitments made by two agencies of the World Bank for 2009. Also, of the total commitment of $6.266 billion for 2004-09, an amount of $1.456 billion in net terms was transferred to Pakistan, according to the annual report of the World Bank for 2009.
The un-disbursed balance for 2009 is $1.83 billion. However, gross disbursements to Pakistan amounted to $940 million and after excluding repayments of $455 million, the net disbursement in 2009 stood at $485 million. After deducting banks’ charges and interest payments of $140 million from the net disbursement of $485 million, net transfers to Pakistan in 2009 amounted to only $345 million. :lol:
The un-disbursed balance from 2004 to 2009 amounted to $1.83 billion.
Where's my money? :((
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From Karan Shafi's Dawn article..
There is more: at exactly 17:33 on Nov 28, 2009, I received a telephone call from a woman speaking in uneducated Urdu and using a mobile phone (0300-274-9185). She asked if I was Kamran Shafi. When I said I was, she said that what had happened to me last night was just the ‘trailer’ and that the complete movie would also be shown.

When I asked why any of this should happen, she said, ‘One does not spit in the plate one eats from’, and that if I was not careful about what I write I would soon see the complete movie. I am a pensioner of the Pakistan Army, getting the princely sum of Rs1,200 a month, by the way. FIR No 827 has been registered at the Wah Cantonment PS in which I have in an additional application said that I suspect an ‘agency’ of doing the deed.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -necks-129

I think this trailer-movie connection is not just a coincidence. Same handler/ group within ISI? BTW do ex Army folks get this pension in Pukistan?
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anupmisra wrote:Reality bites pookis
The real world of finance.

Pakistan gets only $345m of $1.61bn World Bank pledge
IMO, the bestest way to bankrupt TSP is to get Goldman Sachs and JPM to underwrite this TFTA aid and loans and all.... these noble firms being blue blooded and all will also immediately inform their trading desks to short TSP at once, even as the parent firms smilingly sign the deals..... the rest as they say, will be history...
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The entire Spiegel interview is dripping with sarcasm...look at the questions..
Really? The leader of the Pakistani Taliban, Baitullah Mehsud, was killed by an American drone. Don't you call this a success?

The picture you are drawing is not exactly ideal for attracting more foreign investment to Pakistan. This week you are visiting Germany to try to accomplish just this. What are you going to tell German companies?

That does not seem convincing enough for German companies.

Can you imagine what the German public would say if German arms manufacturers were to invest in Pakistan?
Dont know what Gilani eats to sit through such 'interview's
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anupmisra wrote:The male protesters accused her (Baroness Warsi) of not being a proper Muslim and supporting the death of Muslims in Afghanistan. The shadow minister for community cohesion and social action was then taken into a nearby shop.
Couple of things. 1) "minister for community cohesion and social action" So, Londonistan has created a ministerial positon just for Pakis?
2) Even though she is a Tory candidate, the Labor party Paki, Nazir Ahmed, campaigned for her election.
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Dont know what Gilani eats to sit through such 'interview's
Shows the IQ level of the "true" ruler of the land of Porkis.. :rotfl:

Im sure that after the interview, he is the one who will walk out satisfied and smug and will boast to all minions about how he outsmarted a German reporter!!! :lol:
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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The Army.

Nightwatch comments on the Jones visit to TSP
http://nightwatch.afcea.org/NightWatch_20091130.htm
Pakistan: U.S. President Obama offered Pakistan an expanded strategic partnership, including additional military and economic cooperation, while warning against Pakistan's use of insurgent groups to pursue policy goals, The Washington Post reported 30 November.

US National Security Adviser James Jones delivered the offer, including an effort to reduce tension between Pakistan and India, to President Asif Ali Zardari. It was accompanied by assurances of increases in U.S. military and civilian efforts in Afghanistan and no early withdrawal plans.

Jones supposedly threatened that if Pakistan cannot deliver, the United States may use any means to rout insurgents based along Pakistan's borders with Afghanistan.

Comment: The New York Times and the Washington Post both published journalist reports that Zardari is in trouble and his government is in danger of collapse. That might be the case, but Readers should not understand those dire warnings as predicting the collapse of the government in Islamabad.

Pakistan’s national government is a modified presidential-parliamentary system, owing to changes Musharraf made but failed to institutionalize. Zardari swore an oath to relinquish the powers of a strong president and did transfer control of nuclear weapons to the Prime Minister over the weekend – two years after he vowed to surrender that and other powers.

The US has a public declaratory policy of dealing with governments not personalities, but in the case of Pakistan every policy action has been based on the personality of the Pakistani president.

Zardari promised in 2007 and 2008 that the government would revert to the Westminster model. One of the reasons for the strong political opposition is his failure to keep that promise. He is corrupt. His appointees are corrupt. His lack of sensitivity to national security issues felt strongly by the Army leadership is astonishing. The Army despises him. Plus, he has not been a visionary or a good economic manager.

All of that does not add up to the collapse of the Pakistani government, only to a shift in the center of power, back to the Parliament, most likely with Army backing. The Army leaders seem to get along with Prime Minister Gilani, who should be the constitutional head of government.

The nuances of the political crisis in Islamabad were buried deep in the US press treatments. Personal assurances by President Zardari or by Army Chief General Kayani are not the same as agreements between governments. Every Reader knows that Zardari was acting on borrowed time in violation of his own promises. Any US officials who predicated policies on his longevity made foolish judgments. The same is true of Kayani who must retire in six months or so.

Zardari’s reversion to a ceremonial president, which is the direction government is heading, does not mean necessarily a reduction in government leadership. It means Pakistan is trying to return to its parliamentary roots, departing from the Musharraf era’s dalliance with an American-style presidency.

The unanswered question is whether the Pakistan Army Corps commanders are willing to accept government by the elected representatives of the people, as opposed to government by appointed officers in a closed, elitist and unrepresentative military social system.

US support for the last steps in Pakistan’s political normalization – including the reversion of the president to ceremonial status -- will be critical to ensuring the Army does not seize power again. Zardari is an easy target for international news coverage, but he is not the government of Pakistan and he has always known it!
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Dont have the Video Version but Groper Gillani was in his full Mcflecknonean Glory when he visited CFR.
He surpassed all the jesters of yore years.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/16877/

GILANI: Actually, you are considering Mr. Musharraf as a president of the United States. This is not the case, because there is a parliamentary form of government; here is a presidential form of government. And you can compare me with Gordon Brown, the prime minister of U.K., or --

HAASS: I hope your political numbers are higher. (Laughter.)

GILANI: -- no, no -- and Manmohan Singh, who is the prime minister of India. Therefore, we have inherited the Westminster system, a parliamentary form of government where the chief executive is the prime minister and not the president.

HAASS: I understand.

Let me ask the question a different way, then -- (laughter) -- beyond President Musharraf, which is whether you think now in the army there is a broader acceptance of a more limited role for the army. Do you think now the coming generation of army officers accepts the notion that their proper role is in the barracks rather than in politics?
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http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=211024


Acts of ghairat
Random thoughts

Wednesday, December 02, 2009
Dr A Q Khan

If you want to see the character of a nation and how they defend their honour and dignity, look at Iran, North Korea and Venezuela.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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MurthyB wrote:Not sure if this has been recognized by the forum as a new addition to the glorious lexicon of Pakistani English:

A BAD SMELLING KISS
The said Carry Logger Bill :rotfl: has no doubt won the hearts of the people of Pakistan but on the other hand the situation is not very much pleasing for India.
from the same article you quote, about the writer:
"the author is a bilingual analyst..."

PS: they don't mention which two languages though
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X Posted.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s terrorist welcoming ways wins recognition.

US President Obama names the Islamic Republic of Pakistan as a safe haven for Al – Qaeda in his West Point speech:
After escaping across the border into Pakistan in 2001 and 2002, al Qaeda's leadership established a safe-haven there.
After consultations with our allies, I then announced a strategy recognizing the fundamental connection between our war effort in Afghanistan, and the extremist safe-havens in Pakistan.
Read it all:

FULL TRANSCRIPT: President Obama's Speech on Afghanistan
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X Posted.

The former Military Dictator of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, General Prevez Musharraf.

Buffs up his South Asian credentials by demonstrating concern for terrorism in India :roll: :
From 2004 onwards, we witnessed a gradual shift in the terrorist center of gravity. The Taliban started to re-emerge in Afghanistan and gradually gained a dominant role. They developed ties with the Taliban in Pakistan's tribal areas, especially in North and South Waziristan. With a grand strategy to destabilize the whole region, the Taliban and al Qaeda established links with extremists in Pakistani society on the one hand and with Muslim fundamentalists in India on the other. They pose a grave threat to South Asia and peace in the world.
Read it all in the Wall Street Journal:

The Afghan-Pakistan Solution
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PAKISTAN’S OTHER INSURGENTS
A Day in the Desert With Baloch Guerrillas
It is important to note that in most cases the groups from East Balochistan don’t share an agenda with their comrades from Iranian controlled Balochistan. A majority of the Baloch are Sunnis, which is no problem in Pakistan but is in neighboring Iran, a country where the Farsi Shiites have the power. The Baloch resistance against Tehran, Iran’s capital, is of an al-Qaeda type. But the guys we’re with, from East Balochistan, are Marxist-oriented and secular, of all things.
“Islamabad is using the weapons Washington gave them to fight the Taliban against us,” Umit said. In his hand was the same Kalashnikov his father had used many years before. Umit is the last one left from a family whose members have taken part in the five Baloch armed uprisings since Pakistan annexed Balochistan in 1948. Today, though, Cobra helicopters fly above regularly, many of them left over from before Iran’s Islamic Revolution of 1979. It is believed that the former Iranian shah Reza Pahlevi gave this “Made in USA” weaponry to Pakistan for free, with the aim of helping to put down a Baloch insurgence threatening to extend itself to those Baloch areas under Iranian control.

“Why should we sacrifice our right to freedom to a federation ruled by just one nation?” Umit wondered. The obvious answer is that they shouldn’t. But after 60 years, the question must seem increasingly rhetorical.
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A sober, well written article. Useless when aimed at Pakis, worthwhile to quote, forward, cite..

Extradite or prosecute… competently by Menaka Guruswamy, The Hindu
Newspaper reports on investigation dossiers submitted by Pakistan to the Prime Minister of India indicate that no evidence has been presented linking high-level Lashkar commanders to the attacks. Only low-level cadres have been implicated. Even evidence of movement of funds concerns low-ranking cadres — no evidence is offered on the source of those funds. Essentially, the prosecution case will never net upper-level Lashkar decision-makers
Shortly after the Mumbai attacks, amid heavy criticism from the international community, Pakistan represented to the Security Council on December 9, 2008 that amongst other anti-terrorism measures, it would proscribe the Jamaat-ud-Dawa. This it has not done, and must do.
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This Daily Telegraph article posted by Malayappan certainly deserves multiple X Posts.

I am not surprised that the Islamic Jihadi terrorist Willie Brigitte was trained by the Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. The Army of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was merely living out the latter part of their motto of “Iman. Taqwa. Jihad-fi-Sabilillah” or translated into English “Faith, Piety, Jihad in the path of Allah”
Malayappan wrote:Willie Brigitte was trained by Pakistan militaryThe Daily Telegraph

Actually finding it difficult to post excerpts as there are too many specific references!
WHEN Willie Brigitte was sent to Pakistan for terrorist training, he thought his identity would be safe.

A fair assumption, since it has just been revealed it was rogue elements in Pakistan's own army that trained, armed and deployed him to Australia to carry out a terrorist attack.
Transcripts from in-camera evidence in his 2007 trial reveal Pakistan security forces supplied trainers and arms to Lashkar-e-Toiba extremists as they trained hundreds of foreign operatives in a complex in the mountains
One army/LET officer Brigitte met was called Sajid and it is he who sent the French national to Sydney to link up with an already established terror cell. It is Sajid who British M15 now suspect has plotted - and is still plotting - a terror attack in Britain.

There is an Interpol warrant for his arrest as well as a number of Pakistan military and intelligence officers identified as terrorists.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Not a pretty picture. Pakistani Sikh thrashed for refusing to convert

http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.a ... 757&SKIN=W
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Jarita wrote:Not a pretty picture. Pakistani Sikh thrashed for refusing to convert

http://www.haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.a ... 757&SKIN=W
TOI has misreported the story somewhat, it appears. The Sikh gentleman was beaten up and threatened with conversion, he was not beaten up for refusing to convert, which is a slightly different matter (though disgusting, all the same). As it turns out, the reason he was beaten up is because he is a divorce lawyer by profession and took up the case of one Mrs. Safina Kanwal who was married to a Mohammed Amin and seeking a divorce. Mr. Anup Singh was on the verge of winning the case for his client and the ex-husband would have lost a lot of money along with his H&D. The assailants were led by the ex-husband and they tried to intimidate the lawyer by cutting of his hair and beard and threatening him with conversion.

TOI unfortunately appears to spin things slightly differently and make it as though he was beaten up for refusing to convert.
Link to TOI story (beware of popups)

At the very end though, TOI does report the real reason:
the advocate was reportedly assaulted for fighting a separation case for Amin’s wife, Safina Kanwal. ‘‘The goons made my brother sign on a blank paper, after which they cut his hair, beard, moustaches and threatened him to convert to Islam if he wanted to live in Pakistan.
Another news report about the incident:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20091128/8 ... orced.html
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Blast in Islamabad. :D

Karma is a bitch.
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Suicide bomber targets Naval Headquarters, three injured
ISLAMABAD: Three security personnel were injured when a suspected suicide bomber tried to attack the Naval Headquarters in Islamabad on Wednesday, according to a DawNews report.

Security officials at the main entrance of the headquarters of Pakistan Navy located at Margalla Road in Islamabad intercepted a suspected suicide bomber when he tried to enter the building. According to DawnNews, the bomber then blew himself up, injuring three security personnel.
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... ters-ha-06
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http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_su ... ad_1319192

New IEDology :D in Islamabad. This time the target is Naval HQ.

Waiting for the Airforce HQ IEDology day :mrgreen:
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After attacks on General HQs and Naval HQs, will Airforce HQs will be next in line??. :mrgreen:
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Like Carthage,bugbear of ancient Rome,all the news and sounds emanating from the land of the pure ,the views of its its establishment talking heads on telly,indicate that Pak's great solution for peace in Afghanistan is to......."destroy India"! Other than that impossible dream,Pak's cupboard is bare.It is intellectually,morally,financially and militarily bankrupt.The need of the hour is to put it out of its misery.
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James B wrote:After attacks on General HQs and Naval HQs, will Airforce HQs will be next in line??. :mrgreen:
Why poor AF HQ, saar? Moi would settle for the militents blowing up any 1 of the only 2 F-solahs that still fly in the TSPAF.
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The Naval HQ blast could be a French calling card.
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Navy HQ shouldnt it be karachi? Where they keep most of their naval fleet?
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amdavadi wrote:Navy HQ shouldnt it be karachi? Where they keep most of their naval fleet?
how then will admiral sahib be able to enjoy benefits of being near centre of power?
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amdavadi wrote:Navy HQ shouldnt it be karachi? Where they keep most of their naval fleet?
Because INS Viraat cant sail to Slumabad
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Absurd demands & accusations
Motorham Mazari

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... usations/1

get Osama at Pakistan's door - which is as ridiculous as anything the Bush Administration had claimed. Even more absurd is the threat that US forces will move into action if Pakistan can't deliver on Al-Qaeda! US forces have been moving all over Afghanistan as well as surreptitiously throughout Pakistan and have only managed to send more body bags home and unite disparate Pushtun factions to fight what is being seen increasingly as an occupation force. So more US forces moving along the border with Pakistan will only result in more chaos. For Pakistan this is a serious issue as it will send more militants into Pakistan, as happened at the time the bunker busters and daisy cutters rained on Tora Bora. Therefore, we have to ensure the new US Afghan policy does not contain anything which could destabilise us further. The time has come to assert our national interests first.
To make matters even more akin to a black comedy, we have had little Britain's Gordon Brown suddenly taking the Blair mantle of faithfully echoing what the US says, and accusing Pakistan of being responsible for British and, presumably, NATO/US failures to catch the top Al-Qaeda leadership! All sorts of reasoning are being advanced for this allegation. The British have learned nothing from their history of this region nor can they accept their military's dismal performance here as in Baghdad
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Another Retard Rat Child Arrives
http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... an-arrived
( Yes , in Every house worldwide)
At a crucial time the princely states of Balochistan were advised by Maulana Azad to join Pakistan. Nawab Akbar Bugti valiantly stood by the concept of Pakistan. Can we forget the roles of the Khosas, Jamalis, Qazi Issa, Achakzais, Mandokhels, Jogehezais?
There is another dimension to the geographical notion of Pakistan. Historically, the people of Indus were called Sindhu. The term Hindu is a derivative of both Sindhu and Schinde. The little discovered Nara Civilisation that existed along and astride the banks of this river system pre-dates Mohenjo-Daro, Harappa and Mehrgarh. Over ten thousand years old the region had been the world centre at least thrice; the Nara (Sarasvati) Age, Mohenjo-Daro and the Great Mauryan Empire. It ruled the world as far away as Greece and Egypt. It had a river system of which Indus was just a part. This Great Nara River entered what is now Pakistan near Fort Abbas and debouched at a place Nagar Par Kar (cross the river). This is the land of world's highest mountains, largest river systems and oldest deserts. This was the wonderland imbedded in the innate memories of us people.
Indeed, if both the spirit of Pakistaniat that predated its boundaries and innate memories of dreamland morphed into the Pakistani construct of nationhood articulately enunciated by Quaid-i-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah, what went wrong ( What about pure Islam)
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amdavadi wrote:
Navy HQ shouldnt it be karachi? Where they keep most of their naval fleet?
Stop posting 'deff and dumb' type stupid doubts. Think for yourself/ or Google/ yahoo/ Bing.

IN HQ is New Delhi.
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Pakistan IT hotspots:

1. LET HQ in muridke:
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2. Al Quadsa Mosque, Lahore. Hafiz Sayeed's lair
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3. Kasab's village, south of Khanewal, close to Multan
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4. Binori Madarsa, Karachi. Training ground and base of Maulana Masood Azhar.
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5. Lal Masjid, Islamabad.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

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Hey harbans..

You want to start calling names?Who the hell you calling deaf & dumb? What's wrong with question i asked?

If you dont like my question,than just ignore it. Dont need to make smart A** comments to increase your post count.
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