The Curious Case of Daood Gilani alias David Headley & co

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 01 Dec 2009 12:11

And not to forget any foreign assets which may have involved in the execuetion of Mumbai attacks but are useful for creating psy-ops against Indians.

Lalmohan · Post by **Lalmohan** » 01 Dec 2009 14:12

in my limited reading of spy books and novels, it appears to be standard practice for intel agencies to NOT share what they find with others, including friends, unless they have to or need to. why should this case be any different?

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 01 Dec 2009 16:29

No information on Headley-Rana from Pakistan: PC

Posted: Tuesday , Dec 01, 2009 at 1531 hrs New Delhi:

Ahead of the visit of an FBI team here to share information on David Headley and Tahawwur Rana, Home Minister P Chidambaram on Tuesday said Pakistan has not given any inputs on the two terror suspects who were planning to target key installations in the country.

"No information was received from Pakistan related to Headley-Rana case. Pakistan has not shared any information with us so far," he told reporters here. Rana is a Pakistani-origin Canadian citizen while Rana's father was a Pakistani citizen. Both of them stayed for a long period in the neighbouring country.

Chidambaram said a team of FBI, which arrested Headley and Rana for plotting terror attacks, will arrive in India next week to share information about the probe carried out by the American investigators on the terror suspect duo.

Asked whether he was satisfied with the investigations carried out by Indian agencies, the Home Minister said "yes. A large number of investigators are out on the field probing every lead of that we have been able to get and probe is progressing quite satisfactorily".

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 01 Dec 2009 17:03

Info on foreigners to be shared on real-time basis: PC

Posted: Dec 01, 2009 at 1509 hrs IST

New Delhi Stung by the controversy over issuance of visa to terror suspect Tahawwur Rana, the government has decided to link all offices dealing with providing travel documents to foreigners to ensure sharing of information on a real-time basis.

Under this proposal, the offices of Foreigners' Division, Foreigners' Regional Registration Office, Ministry of External Affairs and all its Missions abroad will be interlinked, Home Minister P Chidambaram said on Tuesday.

"This project is to ensure that (real-time) kind of connectivity takes place so that information is shared instantly on a real-time basis and decisions can therefore be taken on a real-time basis," he said.

Chidambaram said the FRROs, FROs and the foreigners' division are all now on a "stand-alone" basis with no real-time information sharing when a visa is issued.

"As it was issued by Counsel General in Chicago, there was no real-time information. So what we need is real-time sharing of information among all the offices which are dealing with foreigners," he said.

The move comes in the wake of the reports that the Indian Consulate in Chicago had issued visa to Rana, a Pakistani-Canadian, without referring his case to the Ministry of Home Affairs.

However, the consulate had claimed that there was no need to refer cases where an individual was a Pakistani citizen but had become a citizen of another country and surrendered his citizenship of Pakistan.

"It will be the connectivity between all the foreigners immigration offices, the MEA and all the missions abroad so that they will all be on real-time connectivity that is primarily is the whole purpose," Home Secretary G K Pillai said while describing the revamp of foreigners' divisions.

Rana was arrested by the FBI along with David Coleman Headley, a US citizen, for plotting terror attacks in India and Denmark. Indian officials also suspect their involvement in the 26/11 Mumbai terror strikes.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2009 01:01

I dont know if this was posted earlier..

LINK: http://www.dailypioneer.com/219224/Jiha ... eceit.html

OPED | Monday, November 30, 2009 | Email | Print |

Jihad’s web of deceit

Shashi Shekhar

A year after the fidayeen attacks on multiple targets in Mumbai, we are still trying to put faces to the names of those who masterminded the diabolical plot. That’s a difficult task: Terrorists morph into various persona and switch identities, all the while spinning a web to mislead police

The indictment of seven accused in a Pakistani anti-terrorism court last week in connection with the 26/11 fidayeen attacks on Mumbai was perhaps more farcical than belated.

The 26/11 chargesheet filed in a Mumbai court names 35 accused. Three of these accused are standing trial in India, while nine others are rotting in a morgue in Mumbai.

But then not all of the seven indicted in Pakistan are listed in the chargesheet in India. But that’s not even where the farce begins.

The chargesheet in India names four distinct individuals — Hafiz Saeed, Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi, Abu al-Qama and Zarar Shah — among others. Several news reports from Pakistan have identified the detainees Zarar Shah as Abdul Wajid and Abu al-Qama as Mazhar Iqbal.

But then as with many aspects of the conspiracy behind the 26/11 attacks these identities too have come under a cloud with the still unravelling findings into the activities of the two accused in the Chicago conspiracy — David Coleman Headley and Tahawwur Rana.

More specifically the intrigue is centered around the identities of the two Pakistan-based associates of Headley who have been named only in the third person in the Chicago conspiracy complaints by the FBI in the US.

Several news reports, unconfirmed though, have named the two Pakistan-based individuals linked to Headley and Rana to be Sajid Mir and a certain Abdul Rehman.

Sajid Mir has been known internationally as a Lashkar commander and controller in a much publicised plot of a French national Willy Briggette accused of terrorism back in 2006. Strangely enough, Sajid Mir has never been named by Indian authorities or media for any of the past attacks this decade.

Strangely, a week ago sources within Intelligence Bureau revealed twice in less than a week to an online news portal that Sajid Mir may in fact be Abu al-Qama. Those unfamiliar with al-Qama may want to rewind back to 2005 when he was held responsible for the 2005 serial blasts in New Delhi.

Not just that the same IB sources also now suspect Sajid Mir to be Zarar Shah whose name gained popular attention as the person who set up the e-mail account [email protected] from which the claim of responsibility for 26/11 was issued in the name of the Deccan Mujahideen.

The confusion over the veracity of multiple identities perhaps assumed by the same Lashkar commander can be best appreciated by rewinding back to September 2008 in the days after the serial blasts in Delhi.

On September 26, 2008 the Indian Express carried a report quoting sources in Delhi Police that claimed Lashkar commander Abu al-Qama had been directing the Indian Mujahideen wave of serial blasts in multiple cities in India. But contradicting this claim the report said Jammu & Kashmir Police believed al-Qama had been killed six months back in Gujranwala after he deserted Lashkar. The Indian Express followed up with another report on September 30 quoting the Delhi Police special chief that al-Qama was alive.

On more than one occasion there has been confusion on the antecedents and sphere of influence of not just al-Qama but the other Lashkar commander who has also been variously attributed responsibility for attacks last decade.

Two satellite phone numbers — 8821651135541 and 8821621330743 — that were listed in a report that appeared in the DNA on December 19, 2008 had also appeared in a report in the Indian Express on July 26, 2005 when two satellite phones were allegedly recovered in Jammu & Kashmir during an encounter. While in 2005 either satellite phone number was associated with Muzammil and al-Qama, in 2008 both the satellite phone numbers were claimed to have been used by Muzammil. Also back in 2005 al-Qama was described as Lashkar’s commander for attacks in Jammu & Kashmir and Muzammil as the commander for all attacks outside the State.

The myth around division of responsibility between them that was first described in 2005 is severely put to test in 2006 when a third name re-emerges as the Lashkar’s commander responsible for attacks outside Jammu & Kashmir — Azam Cheema who is the prime accused in the July 2006 serial blasts in Mumbai. To square the division of labour between the two known commanders of Lashkar a new myth emerges in October of 2006 on the alleged competition between Cheema and his peers Muzammil and al-Qama.

This myth takes a curious turn to when another appears to explain that the Baba referred to in 26/11 phone intercepts was not Azam Cheema who we are told was suffering from diabetes. In the same report from January 19, 2009 we were also told Azam Cheema had transferred control to al-Qama.

Meanwhile, the legend of Muzammil takes its own life in the aftermath of the January 2008 fidayeenattack on a CRPF camp in Rampur. The many confessions of Fahim Ansari and Sabahuddin Sheikh reported variously in the media in April 2008 reveal Muzammil as the mastermind behind the 7/11 attacks while describing him in a subordinate capacity to Azam Cheema.

Strangely enough, while Muzammil emerges as key Lashkar mastermind post-7/11 overshadowing Azam Cheema, al-Qama practically fades from public memory but for his alleged role in the 2005 Delhi blasts till he re-surfaces in the 26/11 chargesheet.

It is important to note the chronological sequence in which al-Qama (Delhi 2005), Azam Cheema (Mumbai 2006) and Muzammil (all attacks after 7/11) have been attributed responsibility for major attacks since 2005.

With Muzammil, al-Qama and Zarar Shah named in the 26/11 chargesheet as three distinct individuals, Headley’s revelations on Sajid Mir take us deeper into a tangled web of assumed identities. So deep that to date Sajid Mir was not even on the radar of Indian agencies for any of the attacks on Indian soil.

On the first anniversary of 26/11 we are no wiser on the operational layer of command between the known leaders of LeT, JeM and HuJI — Zaki-ur Rehman Lakhvi, Masood Azhar, llyas Kashmiri and their Indian origin lieutenants like Amir Raza Khan and the allegedly dead Shahid Bilal amongst others.

The cold reality a year after 26/11 is that we have mostly been chasing ghosts for the last five years while the sponsors of terror continue to operate from behind a web of anonymity.

-The writer tracks terrorism in South Asia.

This anonymity is classic case of spy agency tactics to provide plausible deniability.

What if all those names are nom -de- guerre's taken up as needed?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2009 01:10

Its not a police or criminal matter. It is a covert war that is being waged by TSp and Indian adminstration is not gearing up for this.

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 02 Dec 2009 03:16

all that is needed is to send in some Afgan intelligence personal whom we have been training and knock them off. now the million dollar question is , keeping them alive is beneficial or knocking them off. We seem to have milked more on other fronts using this as an execuse.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 02 Dec 2009 08:14

Canadian terror suspect to offer $1M from sureties at bail

The Canadian Press

Date: Tuesday Dec. 1, 2009 6:34 PM ET

TORONTO — No bail conditions could assure a Canadian man accused in the U.S. of supporting an international terrorism plot wouldn't flee as he is facing a lengthy prison term and has access to "foreign" bank accounts, American prosecutors say in court documents.

Tahawwur Rana, 48, and David Headley, an American, were arrested in October for their alleged involvement in a plot to attack a newspaper in Denmark and murder an editor and a cartoonist responsible for publishing cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Rana faces two counts: conspiring to provide material support to a terrorist conspiracy and providing support to that conspiracy.

This is a very serious offence involving "members of some of the most sophisticated, violent terrorist organizations that exist," prosecutors write in documents filed in advance of Rana's bail hearing Wednesday in Chicago.

The prosecution is opposing bail, saying, "there are no set of conditions that will reasonably assure the appearance of the defendant."

The FBI is also reportedly probing whether Rana and Headley were involved in the attacks last year in Mumbai that killed 166 people. Rana's lawyer Patrick Blegen has said Rana "categorically denies" involvement.

Court documents show Rana's lawyers will argue on Wednesday that there is no risk Rana will flee because friends and family are willing to put up six homes in the U.S., and combined with other funds Rana could post about $1 million in bail.

"Fleeing would devastate not only the defendant's immediate family, but would render homeless and/or jeopardize the financial security of other family members and friends," Blegen wrote.

"The government views a hefty potential sentence as a reason to flee. Ruining the lives of your family and friends more than counterbalances that risk."

Blegen also suggests any number of other conditions could be put on Rana to secure his release on bail, such as house arrest, electronic monitoring and communication restrictions.

Documents show prosecutors will oppose bail by noting Rana faces life in prison, has a "foreign residence and access to foreign accounts" and has allegedly shown he is willing and able to engage in immigration fraud.

However, Blegen writes "it should come as little surprise that a Canadian citizen has Canadian bank accounts," though they don't contain a lot of money.

The father of three was born in Pakistan and has lived in Chicago for more than 10 years. He owns several businesses, including an immigration consultancy in Toronto.

Prosecutors cite as evidence recorded conversations, emails and other documents that Rana provided material support to Headley, including providing a cover story for Headley who allegedly "performed extensive video surveillance" of the Danish newspaper.

sum · Post by **sum** » 02 Dec 2009 09:29

Ananya wrote:all that is needed is to send in some Afgan intelligence personal whom we have been training and knock them off. now the million dollar question is , keeping them alive is beneficial or knocking them off. We seem to have milked more on other fronts using this as an execuse.

Just curious but what have we milked?

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 02 Dec 2009 19:40

well if we were to look at the doctorine of AK bharat and for that colapse of TSP is a must and for that economic colapse is a must which starts form

1. Cricket
2. Cinema and cultural
3. River waters, we seem to building hydro electric projects without even saying anything.
4. Baloch making noise.
5. Kashmir

if these perpetrators are brought to justice in some way then all the 5points would have to open up and we would end up having no execuse. Mr Hal... would be visting every week to sechedule meetings.

The real issue is make enogh noice worldwide and do not do anything yourself that would open up a pandora's box.

me just speculating

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 02 Dec 2009 23:25

Patni wrote:Ex-Pak Army Major linked to 26/11
Agencies
Mumbai, Dec 2:
A former Pakistan Army Major, who has joined the ranks of Lashker-e-Taiba(LeT), is emerging as one of the masterminds of the Mumbai carnage and was in direct touch with arrested US terror suspect David Headley.
The former Armyman identified as Sajid Mir has turned out to be Headley's handler in Pakistan and was tasking the American to learn praying like Jews so that he could conduct a recce of Jewish Centre Nariman House in Mumbai and the premises of a newspaper in Denmark, official sources said here today.
The sources said Mir has been arrested in Pakistan but this could not be independently verified.
The 48-year-old American-born Headley, who was arrested by the FBI sleuths at airport in Chicago in October this year for allegedly plotting to carryout terror strikes in India and Denmark, had told his investigators that he had learnt praying like Jews at the instance of Mir, who was now emerging as one of the mastermind of the terror strikes in Mumbai last November in which 166 people were killed.
Mir, according to the sources, asked Headley to learn praying like Jews as this could help him to target Flemming Rose, a cartoonist of Danish newspaper besides helping him in conducting a reccee of the Nariman House, a place which was attacked by LeT terrorists on November 26.

I am wondering. Can we get a list of the sponsors of the August 14/15th celebrations in Chicago this year? the reason is SRK got frisked around that time and he was attending a South Asian event in that area.

munna · Post by **munna** » 02 Dec 2009 23:42

Singer Abhijit fires broadside on Mahesh Bhatt and Co TOI Link

Brave Man Abhijit wrote:THE BHATT ANGLE
Years ago, I had protested about Mahesh Bhatt and his soft corner for Pakistan. But nobody took notice. And see what’s happening now. I want to know why a thorough investigation hasn’t being carried out against the whole Bhatt family? How come no one else in the industry had any connections with US terror suspect David Headley except the Bhatt family? Why do they call Pakistani singers and actors to work in India when we have so much talent here? Both the brothers, Mahesh and Mukesh themselves travel to Delhi and personally get the visas of Pakistani artists made. Why?

The visa angle needs to be invstigated thoroughly and rigorously. Nanha Bhatt should be encouraged to come forth with more information upon the advice of govt agencies.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 00:08

ramana wrote:

I am wondering. Can we get a list of the sponsors of the August 14/15th celebrations in Chicago this year? the reason is SRK got frisked around that time and he was attending a South Asian event in that area.

Official Site

Promoters

Sponsors

Heat on SRK was because of scanner on Bollywood shows

Although there was no red flag against Shah Rukh Khan's name itself, it was his local contacts which triggered off the alert, accorded to sources who asked not to be identified. The situation was compounded by the non-arrival of his baggage from London, a particularly sensitive station in American eyes.

US intelligence agencies have long been leery of a possible terrorist attack by Islamist extremists from a city dubbed Londonistan, particularly since British passport holders do not need a visa to enter the United States.

As we know that Brits claimed that they were the ones who alerted unkil about Headley & Rana, It does look like unkil customs was being extra courteous to shahrukh for a reason!

Farhath Hussain is a London-based businessman who modestly describes himself as the "world's Number One promoter of Bollywood shows, a showbiz impresario extraordinaire." His brother Altaf Hussain is a Chicago-based businessman in the gas station industry who founded the Lake County South Asian Entertainment Inc. to tap into the Bollywood showbiz market in US after the eclipse of Vijay Taneja, a former Indian partner whose founded a company called Elite Entertainment.

According to an industry insider, Farhath Hussain and Vijay Taneja had divvied up Bollywood shows in Europe and the US between then for many years. Both had promoted shows featuring Shah Rukh Khan and a number of other Bollywood stars. But Taneja was convicted in a massive mortgage fraud in the Washington DC area last year and sentence to seven years in the clink, allowing brothers Hussain to capture US territory.

Incidentally, the Chicago-based Altaf Hussain bears the same name as the London-based leader of Pakistan's Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) party, another possible trigger for the CBP red flag. That Altaf Hussain, a key player in Pakistani politics who is frequently accused of sectarian violence (most notably by Imran Khan) was a cab-driver in Chicago before he eventually returned to Pakistan to found MQM to represent Mohajir interests.

Meanwhile, sources who spoke to ToI described a complex web of financial transactions around Bollywood shows in the west, involving layers of players. At the top of the rung are promoters in Mumbai, who sold shows to overseas players such as Farhath Hussain and Vijay Taneja. These guys in turn sold the shows to local promoters in European and US cities, who banked on ticket sales and retail advertisers to recoup the money they spent to bid for the shows.

Bollywood-starved NRIs pony up anywhere from $ 25 to $ 500 (for the priciest tickets) to see their favorite stars. Top stars, especially a crowd puller like SRK, could command as much as $ 50,000 per show. One source spoke of an actor who was paid $ 900,000 for an 18-city tour that went from Fort Lauderdale in Florida to Los Angeles, California couple of years back.

"Many of these transactions are unreported...you can understand why the business is on the scanner of authorities especially because of the shadow of the underworld on the Bollywood showbiz," he said.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 00:55

India passes information on Headley, Rana to FBI

India passes information on Headley, Rana to FBI
Submitted by Sarthak Gupta on Wed, 12/02/2009 - 07:34.

FBIIndia has passed on the initial findings of NIA in the David Coleman Headley and Tahawwur Rana case to the FBI, so that the two Lashkar operatives can be interrogated on their activities in India.

A FBI team will be coming to India next week with answers to questions on the duo’s extensive travel within India, put to them at New Delhi’s request.

“There was no use interrogating them earlier as we did not have any independent information. Now that we have mapped their activities, it makes sense to ask the two exactly what and why they were meeting the people they did,” a senior government official said.

“We have passed on the information. So that the FBI can ask the questions on our behalf,” he said.

Ananya · Post by **Ananya** » 03 Dec 2009 00:58

to top this Salman khan cancelled his trip

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2009 01:45

Patni, Site is blocked for me. Do you find any Ranesque sponsors? Aka any immigration support companies?

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 03 Dec 2009 02:11

ramana:

There is quite likely more to this Rana case than meets the eye, as many have suggested. See the timing of the arrest and amazingly prompt extradition of T. Nasser and his associate. It looks like the arrest of Rana is what spooked these two to try escaping into BD.

This is reminescent of "The Fourth Protocol" by Frederick Forsyth. The way the nuclear terror operation was blown, was to send a "Red Shoe" (was that the term) operative to visit all the known assets of the operation, causing blindingly obvious red lights to start flashing as he crossed the first border. Thus in one sweep every known asset was lit up.

Rana may have been used likewise by someone to light up the trail, and once he was picked up, everything unraveled. If you think about it, the guy's passport etc. were pretty transparently Paki as he came into India, and should have caused a lot of red lights to go on.

Or maybe the deeper and much worse network has already been set up, with no connection at all to the amateurs in the first wave of attacks.

Sriman · Post by **Sriman** » 03 Dec 2009 02:13

ramana wrote:Patni, Site is blocked for me. Do you find any Ranesque sponsors? Aka any immigration support companies?

The person who sponsored Shahrukh's trip for the South Asian Carnival was one Farhath Hussain who organized the event with his brother Altaf Hussain. They're based out of Chicago.

http://news.in.msn.com/national/article ... id=3159548

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2009 03:15

Only one sponsor? How about advertisers?

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 07:53

Canadian terror suspect 'peaceful': family

Last Updated: Wednesday, December 2, 2009 | 9:05 PM ET Comments0Recommend1
The Associated Press
A Canadian man accused in the U.S. of supporting an international terrorism plot is such a peaceful soul he doesn't even like to talk about news of violence in the world, family and acquaintances told his bail hearing Wednesday in Chicago.

The assurances given to the court by Tahawwur Rana's supporters were countered by a prosecution that alleged there are two sides to the man.

"He's got a whole other side where he's involved with coded messages," prosecutor Daniel Collins said. "These folks don't know that side."

Rana, 48, and David Headley, an American, were arrested in October for their alleged involvement in a plot to attack a newspaper in Denmark and murder an editor and a cartoonist responsible for publishing cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

Rana faces two counts: conspiring to provide material support to a terrorist conspiracy and providing support to that conspiracy. The allegations against Rana centre on his alleged support of Headley.

At his bail hearing in Chicago, where Rana has lived for more than 10 years, his brother-in-law and two acquaintances testified that Rana does not condone violence.

"He can't talk about violence too much because he's a peaceful person," said Athar Akhtar, whose sister is married to Rana. "He's a most trustworthy and honest person and he's a very good and sincere person."

The FBI is also reportedly probing whether Rana and Headley were involved in the attacks last year in Mumbai that killed 166 people. Rana's lawyer Patrick Blegen has said Rana "categorically denies" involvement.

Rana's friends and relatives in Canada and the United States were prepared to post bail of $1 million US to secure his release, according to Blegen.

Two other people also testified that Rana is a good man who doesn't discuss violence. One man said he and Rana belong to a group that studies the writings of a Pakistani philosopher who promoted peace. Another man testified to Rana's good reputation within the Pakistani-American business community.

Rana is involved with several businesses, including an immigration consultancy in Toronto. He travelled on a Canadian passport issued in Ottawa in 2006 under a visa issued by the Indian consulate in Chicago, prompting consular diplomats there to defend the process.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper promised Canada's full co-operation in the investigation. Magistrate Judge Nan R. Nolan adjourned the hearing until Dec. 15 to review a five-hour video of Rana's post-arrest interview.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 08:11

Prosecutors Had 5 Hour Interview With Terror Suspect Tahawwur Hussain Rana

An accused terrorist talked to federal authorities in Chicago for five hours after his arrest in mid-October.

Prosecutors referenced the interview at Tahawwur Rans's bond hearing today. They say it shows a series of evolving answers including one in which Rana said he was thinking of expanding his meat business by opening a goat farm in Denmark.

Rana is charged with helping plan an attack on a Danish newspaper that printed cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. Rana's defense attorney says the interview shows his client denied terror charges right from the beginning.

Judge Nan Nolan says she wants to see a DVD of the entire five-hour interview before she decides whether she'll free Rana on a million dollar bond. Rana's already had three hearings on the bond issue. The next one is scheduled for Tuesday.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 11:22

'Headley made Pushkar his base after 26/11'

Headlines Today
Pushkar (Rajasthan), December 3, 2009
Suspected Lashkar operative David Headley stayed in Rajasthan's tourist hotspot of Pushkar after the 26/11 Mumbai attacks to monitor the fallout of the terror strike, sources said.

According to sources, Headley stayed in Pushkar for 40 days, using the town as a base to monitor the post-26/11 developments. Some hotels where Headley was lodged have been identified.

A team of the National Investigating Agency (NIA), which is investigating Headley and his associate Tahawwur Rana's terror plot in India, has reached Pushkar.

The NIA and intelligence agencies swung into action after reports that Headley had admitted to the FBI about his stay in Pushkar.

The intelligence sleuths have been in Pushkar for the past two days. They are meeting international tourists, local contacts and hospitality agents as part of the probe.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 17:51

Headley's immigration service client deported by US to India

Mumbai: An Indian who used the services of Mumbai-based immigration offices of terror suspects David Headley and Tahawwur Rana has been deported by US authorities to India after his documents were allegedly found to be false.
The person (name withheld), hailing from a Gujarat town, arrived at the Indira Gandhi International Airport in Delhi past midnight last night, airport sources said today.

The FBI had informed the Indian authorities about the detention of the person after Headley reportedly told them about his clients who had used the services of his immigration office in Mumbai, the sources said.

His statement was recorded by officials in the national capital after which he was let off and allowed to travel back to his native place in Gujarat as he did not have links either with any terror organisation or with suspicious activities of Headley and Rana.

The person, who appeared to be unaware of Headley's alleged terror connection, told the investigators that he had paid huge sums of money to immigrate to the US from Canada, the sources said.

He said US authorities had detained him for allegedly entering that country on false documents.

The deportation comes barely days ahead of arrival of an FBI team to India during which they would share the details of further interrogation of Headley, whose court hearing in Chicago has been deferred indefinitely in Chicago at the instance of the federal investigating agency.

Headley, who was arrested by FBI on terror charges in october last, ran a visa facilitation agency named Immigrant Law Centre from the AC Market in Tardeo, Mumbai between November 2006 and July 2008 before winding up his business in this metropolis. The firm was helping people especially unskilled workers to get visas for the US and Canada.

Rana, whose counsul has claimed in Chicago court that he was innocent, is also allegedly part of this immigration agency.

However, the Immigrant Law Centre in Chicago which is being headed by one Raymond Sanders has denied any links with the office of Mumbai as also with Headley and Rana.

R Vaidya · Post by **R Vaidya** » 03 Dec 2009 18:48

Enqyoob wrote
Rana may have been used likewise by someone to light up the trail, and once he was picked up, everything unraveled. If you think about it, the guy's passport etc. were pretty transparently Paki as he came into India, and should have caused a lot of red lights to go on.

Or maybe the deeper and much worse network has already been set up, with no connection at all to the amateurs in the first wave of attacks.
_________

I think the travel etc by the Big Baldie and big beard --after the Mumbai massacre-- as late as Setember 2009 plus the interview by Kashmiri [313 ]in Asia times about "plans are already over, for events which will make Mumbai massacre a tea party" suggests that you are on right track.
This south asia carnival is mainly to generate funds for travel etc activities of Gilani types-- since handlers in Paki would have encouraged local financing.
The news about Mahest Bhatt travelling to Delhi regularly to arrange for visa etc for Paki guests etc is another matter of deep concern.
I think there is a need to investigate thoroughly regarding the visa provided by our consulate in Chicago--is it bribe or girl related? If the later then more issues.
also how many such visas have already been given--That is critical-any news on that?.
But with the current FM it is useless to expect anything His deputy is only tweetering and attending page-3 parties and TED events.
R Vaidya

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 21:48

ramana wrote:Patni, Site is blocked for me. Do you find any Ranesque sponsors? Aka any immigration support companies?

From the official site:

Promoters:
Monty Syed

Ten years ago, not many in the Indian Community in Chicagoland knew about Monty and today there is not a single soul who will not know who is he. Ten years ago nobody in the entertainment world would know about Monty and today nobody here and back home in India would care to ignore his presence in the show business.

He achieved this level of importance thru sheer hard work, diligence, honesty of purpose and integrity. His start was modest organizing near B and C class entertainment shows and drams. He rose to fame when he got Asha Bhonsle and Adnan Sami first time in Chicago a few years go. This was followed up with Salman Khan and Boby Deol shows. Jagjit Singh and Paresh Rawal concerts were just feathers glorifying his crown.

His biggest achievement now is that he took lead in getting Big Bs here next month. The Unforgettable Show with Big Bs and Bollywood star cast is easily the crowning achievement for him since it could be easily dubbed as the Show of the Century.

He was a teenager when he dreamt of being a star shining in his own right with Super Stars and he also wanted his country men to understand that there is no business like Show Business that would unite them.

Altaf Hussain

Altaf Hussain, a well known businessman in the gas station industry, has been residing in North America for over 20 years. His great passion for Bollywood has inspired him to be a part of the Show industry that brings Entertainment to the South Asian Community.

After the great success of Adnan Sami show in Chicago a few years ago, Altaf Hussain has decided to take lead in the South Asian Carnival 2009, which is founded by none other than his very own brother Farhath Hussain.

Altaf Hussain is also the founder of Lake County South Asian Entertainment Inc. He has continued to do a lot of Entertainment shows which has won the heart of so many people within the community.

Being a respectful person and a businessman for so many years, he has gained tremendous trust from friends as well as business associates who have always backed him up in every Bollywood show he has done so far. And, he continues to hope for the same encouragement from his friends and Bollywood fans in the upcoming event organizations as well.

Sajjad Shamsi

Sajjad Shamsi has been a well known personality in the gas station business since 1994. However his true passion has always been bollywood and now he has turned his leadership skills to the South Asian Carnival along with his team, Arshdeep Singh Reema, Sayed Zaki, Kazi and Baseer.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 03 Dec 2009 21:51

While all this Headley/Rana this and that is nice it will mkae it look like this duo alone are responsible for the Mumbai Terrorist attack when we know that the infra-structure and training of the terrorists was from TSP.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 03 Dec 2009 22:26

ramana wrote:While all this Headley/Rana this and that is nice it will mkae it look like this duo alone are responsible for the Mumbai Terrorist attack when we know that the infra-structure and training of the terrorists was from TSP.

While agreeing with your point, IMHO unprecedented information that US is sharing with India in the case involving native born subject of US and Canadian rana might point to, US trying to make an example out of RANA/HEADLEY to try and deter all those closeted terrorist/ terror sympathisers on mainland USA and in UK. As already mentioned on the thread, It was not the plots against India that made USA indict and arrest them in first place but it was threat against Denmark that made them go for the arrest in first place. Lalmohanji already said how UK is monitoring a large numbers of resident pakis for terror links.

If the more information comes out in public like transcript of that 4 and half hours interrogation of Rana by FBI, then it will definitely implicate members of TSPA and maybe thats a lever being used by US to get pakis to fall in line with new pak-af road map!

vijayk · Post by **vijayk** » 04 Dec 2009 00:49

Patni wrote:Prosecutors Had 5 Hour Interview With Terror Suspect Tahawwur Hussain Rana

An accused terrorist talked to federal authorities in Chicago for five hours after his arrest in mid-October.

Prosecutors referenced the interview at Tahawwur Rans's bond hearing today. They say it shows a series of evolving answers including one in which Rana said he was thinking of expanding his meat business by opening a goat farm in Denmark.

Rana is charged with helping plan an attack on a Danish newspaper that printed cartoons of the prophet Muhammad. Rana's defense attorney says the interview shows his client denied terror charges right from the beginning.

Judge Nan Nolan says she wants to see a DVD of the entire five-hour interview before she decides whether she'll free Rana on a million dollar bond. Rana's already had three hearings on the bond issue. The next one is scheduled for Tuesday.

They say it shows a series of evolving answers including one in which Rana said he was thinking of expanding his meat business by opening a goat farm in Denmark.
Pakis and goats have some symbiotic relationship it seems...

gandharva · Post by **gandharva** » 04 Dec 2009 03:29

Chicago court refuses Rana's bail plea

http://news.rediff.com/report/2009/dec/ ... l-plea.htm

James B · Post by **James B** » 04 Dec 2009 03:41

^^From above

"Rana spent a significant amount of time with [Headley] a lot more time than the three witnesses who were put here today," Assistant U.S. Attorney Dan Collins said, adding "those witnesses didn't know the real Rana," the Chicago Sun-Times wrote.

'The word 'target' is that man's word, it came out of his mouth,' Collins asserted pointing to Rana and referring to a recorded phone call. The government argues Rana knew about Headley's alleged intentions to target the Danish newspaper and also took part in a phone discussion about targeting the Army college in India.

Looks like Rana and Headley's goose is thoroughly cooked.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 04 Dec 2009 05:07

Aww,
I was hoping the goose would be cooked here in India too. Maybe massa can half cook it there, and then send them off to desh for full cooking.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 04 Dec 2009 08:18

Didn't HerrHonner ask to see a DVD of the full 5 hours of interrogation before deciding on the bail

?

That's the trouble. HOW can they call it justice when a TFTA Baki mard has to be debriefed b4 a kuffar wimmens judge?

Seriously, it sounds serious, if HerrHonner denied bail after seeing the DVD. The guy is cast as a multi-millionaire etc., and still denied bail. Sounds much worse than most murder cases. This sounds like a 500-year sentence coming up. Definitely not just for plotting an attempt against a cartoonist.

sarah · Post by **sarah** » 04 Dec 2009 21:58

enqyoob wrote: HOW can they call it justice when a TFTA Baki mard has to be debriefed b4 a kuffar wimmens judge?

That too A Jewish woman to boot. But then in all fairness her name is NAN, now there is a kind of comic relief that NAN is deciding a pakistani's fate.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 04 Dec 2009 23:04

Headley wanted 'holy sight' of Jewish prayer centre

STAFF WRITER 17:39 HRS IST

Ajmer/Manali, Dec 4 (PTI) American terror suspect David Headley had stayed for two days in a hotel at Pushkar in the outskirts of Ajmer and had insisted on a room opposite a Jewish prayer centre claiming he was a Jew and wanted "holy sight".

The hotel staff, in their statements to the National Investigation Agency (NIA), probing the case, highlighted the fact that 49-year-old Headley had insisted on the room view which was right opposite to the prayer hall of the Jew centre in Pushkar.

Headley, arrested by the FBI, had projected himself as a Jew and had told the hotel staff that he would like to have the "holy sight" of Chabad house from his room, official sources said.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 04 Dec 2009 23:11

How many Chabad houses are in India?

sarah · Post by **sarah** » 05 Dec 2009 01:11

American terror suspect David Headley had stayed for two days in a hotel at Pushkar in the outskirts of Ajmer and had insisted on a room opposite a Jewish prayer centre claiming he was a Jew and wanted "holy sight".

Bhatts say they fell for him as he was caucasian American, now staff at this [likey luxury] hotel claim they believed he was jewish.

Jewish American with name Headley? an American [caucasian and/or Jew] fluent in urdu but talking urdu accented english?

Are they all so gullible or they were just willingly ignoring obvious and now caught with their pants down so making excuses.

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 05 Dec 2009 01:36

Patni wrote:
STAFF WRITER 17:39 HRS IST
Ajmer/Manali, Dec 4 (PTI) American terror suspect David Headley had stayed for two days in a hotel at Pushkar in the outskirts of Ajmer and had insisted on a room opposite a Jewish prayer centre claiming he was a Jew and wanted "holy sight".

hmm interesting..... it is reminiscent of Sleeper Cell

, where the Jihadi leader a poses as an Israeli security expert and lives in a jewish community, plotting attacks.

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 05 Dec 2009 01:54

sarah wrote:
American terror suspect David Headley had stayed for two days in a hotel at Pushkar in the outskirts of Ajmer and had insisted on a room opposite a Jewish prayer centre claiming he was a Jew and wanted "holy sight".
Bhatts say they fell for him as he was caucasian American, now staff at this [likey luxury] hotel claim they believed he was jewish.

Jewish American with name Headley? an American [caucasian and/or Jew] fluent in urdu but talking urdu accented english?

Are they all so gullible or they were just willingly ignoring obvious and now caught with their pants down so making excuses.

No they hate India so much that they are willing to meet terrorists with eyes wide shut! That is the underlying circumustances for their blinkers and blinders. The dus had so many redlights that it would light up a control panel but all those who came in contact looked away.

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 05 Dec 2009 03:42

Most Indians generally would not be able to differentiate between a Jewish surname and a Christian surname. The Butt's case is different, IIRC Jr Butt heard Headley-Gilani speak in Urdu.
When things heat up don't be surprised if the Butts start making noises that they are being targetted because Papa Butt's mother was from the minority community.
The Butts have powerful friends in the media and in the political circles which is why Jr Butt isnt languishing in jail with a Sanjay Dutt TADA type case on him.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 05 Dec 2009 03:59

Pakis getting their undies in a knot over Gilani case: pressure tactics begin, Paki ishtyle:

US Embassy man caught spying in Pak
December 04, 2009 16:56 IST

Activities at the Islamabad-based Naval Headquarters were being allegedly monitored by the US Embassy much before a suicide bomber attacked it on December 2.

According to The Nation, a security official stationed at the Naval Headquarters had apprehended a man named Abdul Ghafoor last month while he was doing a recce of the entry/exit points of the naval installation.

Ghafoor is said to be an official of the US Embassy.

Further investigations revealed that the number plate on his motorbike was also found to be fake. The chassis of the bike also seemed to have been tampered with.

It was found that the bike's number, IDM 5250, was originally that of a Toyota Corolla {With a lethal sunroof lever}.
The Navy asked the higher authorities to register a case of spying against Ghafoor. However, he was only booked for fake documentation. This has given rise to further speculations as to what prevented the authorities to book Ghafoor under the Official Secrets Act for Spying, which carries a much stronger penalty.

Well, Quaid-e-Duh! Clearly the blast was US terrorism against peaceful Pakistan!