Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan - November 06, 2009

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 05 Dec 2009 04:04

Well, you never know, some BRF members could be related to Zaid Hamid or other "packees". Or at least I've been told so.

Mort, get over the US thread here at

least..

Tragic in the sense of Naziz, Pol Pot, Mao etc. That humanity can degenerate to this

Indeed, i find it tragic reading deaf and dumb for example. How skewed thinking can become. Deaf and dumb is very much in synch with PA/ ISI thinking. Did you see the ZH video giving a speech in some univ posted here? All normal Paki's and giving him massive applause. Yes it's sad how an ideology rooted in hatred and excluvism can transfrom a human. I shudder that so many of the Pakjabis were Punjabi and Hindu's/ Buddhists not so long ago. I shudder that the Pashtuns who voted against the ML 70 years ago and supported Frontier Gandhi and were Buddhist/ Hindu a few centuries ago..can change so much. It's not geography. It's ideology. People from Tibet, Ladhak, Lahaul Spiti ( i have friends from each area) the toughest geographical conditions where ppl live, are amongst the most peaceful and nonviolent on this planet. It's always ideology that responsible for change in human nature and not geography.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 04:06

That's exacty what I was thinking. A whole lot of my family came from there and I am unable to understand these people. How much we have bifurcated in the last 62 years

BTW Zaid Hamid looks a bit like Rahul Gandhi

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 05 Dec 2009 04:12

Mort Walker wrote:...
Well, you never know, some BRF members could be related to Zaid Hamid or other "packees". Or at least I've been told so.

Seriously no laughing matter, some comments coming out from esteem BRF members could well compete with best of Zaid Hamid..
I mean of the type:

Indian Government is complicitin Mumbai Massacare..

(Thanks Rahul_M for sharing the same view)
or countless references

Potus of America and all who voted for a certain candidate are complicit of murder .

(Not exact quote but paraphrase)

All who went to one particular Indian school are traitors...

Sorry boss, if the shoe fits wear it .... people will see the similarity...

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 05 Dec 2009 04:15

harbans wrote:Well, you never know, some BRF members could be related to Zaid Hamid or other "packees". Or at least I've been told so.

Mort, get over the US thread here at least..

Tragic in the sense of Naziz, Pol Pot, Mao etc. That humanity can degenerate to this

Indeed, i find it tragic reading deaf and dumb for example. How skewed thinking can become. Deaf and dumb is very much in synch with PA/ ISI thinking. Did you see the ZH video giving a speech in some univ posted here? All normal Paki's and giving him massive applause. Yes it's sad how an ideology rooted in hatred and excluvism can transfrom a human. I shudder that so many of the Pakjabis were Punjabi and Hindu's/ Buddhists not so long ago. I shudder that the Pashtuns who voted against the ML 70 years ago and supported Frontier Gandhi and were Buddhist/ Hindu a few centuries ago..can change so much. It's not geography. It's ideology. People from Tibet, Ladhak, Lahaul Spiti ( i have friends from each area) the toughest geographical conditions where ppl live, are amongst the most peaceful and nonviolent on this planet. It's always ideology that responsible for change in human nature and not geography.

It was in jest. When you're taught hate ideology for a few generations as part of normal learning, then the results are not good.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 05 Dec 2009 04:17

Slain sardar’s son

A Baloch political leader, son of the slain sardar, was invited to a talk show by a well-known host. When the Baloch accepted, he hadn’t bargained on the pro-establishment line of questioning and aggressive posture of the host. There was some bickering and robust argument on the show, to the detriment of the Baloch who felt he hadn’t had his say. He also felt that there was a lack of sympathy for the Baloch cause and when he tried to press his point, he was snubbed by the host. The sardar’s son did not kick up a fuss during the recording of the show but nursed his grudge. When he ran into the same talk show host at the airport, he marched up to him and slapped him across the face. “This is what you deserve for your insensitivity to our cause” he said. The host ran to the airport security staff and asked him to arrest the Baloch. The staff asked the Baloch for his name, whereupon they backed off and asked the host to drop the matter.

My guess is this "well-known host" is Talat Hussain and Baloch leader is Jamil Akbar Bugti.

Below is the link of the program guys...one needs to see this episode to believe the anger of Jamil Akbar Bugti. We really need to hand it them guys..they need every bit of support they can get. He declares that baloch will Never Forget Never Forgive.

Talat Hussain with Jamil Akbar Bugti

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 05 Dec 2009 04:17

Who is "indic" Jarita?

The ones who are killing and the ones being killed are both followers of the same middle eastern faith. Pakistan ka matlab kya?

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 05 Dec 2009 04:17

{

To quote PSWHOSUS (Press Secretary of WHOSUS):

Take a deep breath. Calm down. Works with my 10-year-old goat.

- Mod-e-Mod was here}

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 04:18

Can't answer any questions right now. I am watchig Zaid Hamid videos. You can imagine what it is doing to my brain

Amber G. · Post by **Amber G.** » 05 Dec 2009 04:24

NO one said that they were your quotes.

{OK, Amberji. Point made. v r all friends. Let's move on to praising Pakis..

- Mod-e-Mod was here}

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Dec 2009 04:26

pgbhat wrote:
Jarita wrote:Any hypothesis on who did this? Which faction it is? By now one has lost count of the number of factions in Pakistan.
This is so tragic. Why would they kill their own religious cohorts and children in a mosque
Musl00000ims can never kill other muslims.

The most pious can kill the less pious and so on till the most pure from of Islam arrives i.e to to bring peace and quiteness in the land . Till then the Guddi will keep doing schuk schakka schuck on all Paki front . The only way pakistan can live upto its name is by removing all impure stains on Islam by killing all the lesser , kuffa effected Abduls who are subject to hellfire anyhow ,per their doctrine. We shuould wish well to all the Pure Islam Zadeh Pakis to fullfill Qasim's dream.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 04:30

And who decides who is pious or not?

Mort Walker · Post by **Mort Walker** » 05 Dec 2009 04:31

Mort Walker wrote:{
To quote PSWHOSUS (Press Secretary of WHOSUS):

Take a deep breath. Calm down. Works with my 10-year-old goat.

- Mod-e-Mod was here}

Hurray! I've been promoted from Zaid Hamid to goat. Bliss pee obon you!

Mahendra · Post by **Mahendra** » 05 Dec 2009 04:31

Jarita wrote:And who decides who is pious or not?

Mullah Kalashnikov

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 04:37

This Zaid Hamid is a joy to watch. The sheer amazingness of it.
Found some funny videos on Ghazwa e Hind. Wonder why they left Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f13DINzvXSE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7S_qvZMP0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV7aXc0V ... re=related

More amazingness on 2012 (Manufactured stuff copied from western prophecies)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TNeA-I0 ... re=related

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 05 Dec 2009 04:42

And who decides who is pious or not?

The Book. However much newer converts may convulate logic, they cannot beat the doctrine. The Taliban were named exactly because they were Islamic students and there leaders were theologians. Mullah Omar, Bin Laden and Zawahari know their book and it's requirements to the T. Musharaff and PA Generals probably not that much. Denaiability arises from that very fundamental..no it just cannot be so. It's not possible the doctrine says so. Thats why the stress on the RoP even as bombs, murder, mayhem and beheadings go on all around.

amdavadi · Post by **amdavadi** » 05 Dec 2009 04:44

What the hell is diputed territories in the first video. Now it is confirm, pakis cant spell either. What the hack paki IT is doing.

Atri · Post by **Atri** » 05 Dec 2009 04:51

Jarita wrote:And who decides who is pious or not?

from my blog, my two cents - Understanding Islamic power-structure

A Qazi or a Mullah controls the social matters and ascertains the "report-card" of spiritual progress of ordinary Abdul. And sad part is ordinary Abdul in India can't even think of rebelling because if he does, he will be branded as "enemy of Islam" by power-establishment and will bring "Islam in danger". Hence, Jihad against him.

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This power-structure is inherently linked perhaps with the nature and Chitta-Vritti of Prophet Muhammad himself. Belief in Allah is not enough to ensure the place in heaven. One has to depend upon Muhammad's favours and his influence on god to go to heaven and get 72 hoors. Thus, Muhammad made himself more powerful than Allah.

Thus, in Islam for all practical purposes, Muhammad, the Rasool, is supremely powerful figure. This is as perfect and complete as it can get. Muhammad will only talk to Allah about you if you were a true Muslim. But who determines who the true-Muslim is and who is not, herein lies the real crux of the issue.

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Propagation of Islam is in fact propagation of Mullah-based social power-structure associated with it. Sufis played a major role, yes. But once Islam was established, they found themselves enlisted as Kaafirs along with other Kaafirs. Any established monolithic power-structure does not like influx of new ideas. Rather it wants controlled influx of new ideas. They prefer standardisation and mass-production over innovation. This ensures efficient execution of power-machinery.

Even where Sufis introduced their abstract free-thinking ideas, this free-thinking was standardised and all anomalies were removed by forcible imposition and dominance of Deobandi Islam, which is now followed by Wahabi Islam. Wahabism is so far the most efficiently standardised school of Islam with maximum devotion of followers towards Qazi-Mullah power structure and minimum anomalies. Anomalies are looked upon as abnormalities and are violently uprooted. They follow the literal meaning of the book.

They can and have declared non-Wahabis as Kuffars. But so far, no Deobandi or Barelvi or Sufi or Shia or ahmediya or Bahai people have dared to declare Wahabism as Kufr and un-Islamic. The power structure, along with separation of Abdul and Ayesha from ability to think rationally, gives propagation of Deobandi and Wahabi forms of Islam maximum mileage. Most of others are already enlisted as Kaafirs and are on target list of suicide bombers eager to meet their 72 in paradise. This is because, deep down, every Mullah knows, that he cannot defeat the Wahabi interpretation of Quran as Non-Islamic unless Quran is reformed, which is not allowed. Hence it seems that deobandis will have to merge in with Wahabis or become as fanatic as Wahabis.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 04:53

On a more serious note.
Seems like this attack in Rawalpindi is a tipping point of sorts with peoples children killed.

Zaid Hamid - This war is going to be a personal war with so many children of high level officials killed the army will react very strongly

Rupesh · Post by **Rupesh** » 05 Dec 2009 04:58

A minibus carrying members of a wedding party struck an anti-tank mine in tribal area on Friday, killing three people and wounding 15 others, officials said. The blast hit in Chinari town, about 50 kilometres northwest of Ghalanai, the main town in Mohmand tribal region, which borders Afghanistan and has been the focus of a recent anti-Taliban operation, top local administration official Amjad Ali Khan told a foreign news agency, saying the death toll may rise.

http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news- ... -officials

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 05 Dec 2009 05:00

They can and have declared non-Wahabis as Kuffars. But so far, no Deobandi or Barelvi or Sufi or Shia or ahmediya or Bahai people have dared to declare Wahabism as Kufr and un-Islamic. The power structure, along with separation of Abdul and Ayesha from ability to think rationally, gives propagation of Deobandi and Wahabi forms of Islam maximum mileage. Most of others are already enlisted as Kaafirs and are on target list of suicide bombers eager to meet their 72 in paradise. This is because, deep down, every Mullah knows, that he cannot defeat the Wahabi interpretation of Quran as Non-Islamic unless Quran is reformed, which is not allowed. Hence it seems that deobandis will have to merge in with Wahabis or become as fanatic as Wahabis.

Bang on nail head. The rest are only appeasing the hardened, knowledge, ready to implement doctrine mullah and his followers, exactly like dhimmified WKKs appease the 'hypoicrite' muslim or RAPE.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 05 Dec 2009 05:05

On a more serious note.
Seems like this attack in Rawalpindi is a tipping point of sorts with peoples children killed.

Zaid Hamid - This war is going to be a personal war with so many children of high level officials killed the army will react very strongly

Jaritaji, the tipping point for what? They think RAW, CIA, Mossad is doing this. One cannot fathom the CT aspect in an Islamized mind. Denaiability is written all over. It emerges over time, with helplesness and fear unable to think free. There will be no tipping point for self realization of the truth about the doctrine. It (the tipping point) will only emerge through brute power and fear. The Ali Sinas are exceptions, not the rule.

harbans · Post by **harbans** » 05 Dec 2009 05:08

Zaid Hamid has a personal mission and fad and is very much in synch with the PA and the ISI. Ghazwa e Hind. His video with Bharat Verma, where he actually 'mauled' a shocked Verma..on the Panipat thing. Verma it was clear did not anticipate such deep rooted, hatred. That hatred is endemic in Porkistan.

PS: ZH is Kuffr too, tolerating an unscarved, non Burkha lady hostess in most shows on TV that too. Mullah Omar controls power, he does'nt like a pic of his taken. He's the power however reclusive..

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 05:09

People will be filled with rage and desire for revenge...
Ooooops wait - they are already filled with rage and desire for revenge.
The glass runneth over.

Yeah I don't know. I don't understand them. Their behaviour is not rational. I can only hope for Indias sake that all Pakistani Intellectuals are like Zaid Hamid.

I am watching the Zaid Hamid vs Bharat Verma video. What paranoia, what hatred, amazing hatred.

Does the Indian media watch this crap?

MurthyB · Post by **MurthyB** » 05 Dec 2009 05:21

Anyhow, where did all the cricket analogies go. The run rate had dipped, but that was because of tea break. The bious were busy slitting the throats of goats, cows, and camels. Throats have been slit, blood emptied, carcass skinned, pictures posted, meat consumed, digested, and now the play resumes! And thanks to Viru's inspiring display in kuffarland, this first over after tea is like an over of sixes for the number of high rankers gone!

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 05 Dec 2009 05:42

Jarita wrote:On a more serious note.
Seems like this attack in Rawalpindi is a tipping point of sorts with peoples children killed.

Well if that is what they are capable of doing to down-hill skiers children (most of the kids were from Baki Army families), the level of attrocities if the victims are kuffar SDREs or YYYs can only be unimaginable.
But it is a matter of course, the only difference would be there will be some rage in the down-hill skiing camp. Most of them would be shocked that the training they imparted to their brethren without uniform, has actually come to bear fruits at wrong place.

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 05 Dec 2009 05:47

[url http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD9CCO6QO2]
Link to AP report..[/url]

From that link...

"They were killing people like animals," witness Nasir Ali Sheikh. "Whoever they saw they shot at. They were well trained and moved very quick."

This Pakbarian pig should be executed for blasphemy...the pious are only ensuring purity and piety reigns in the land of the pure..

Seriously, this is a great development along the lines of Lal Mosque massacre...there the Pakbarian Army massacred their own trainees and paid/paying price now it is the turn of Army animals to get killed like animals by the animals they trained only too well...would lead to more violence all around..

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Dec 2009 05:51

Wow , was that Faddullah in Masjid? Who else can bring Jannat close to Mosharraff Zadehs , not impure Abdul.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 05 Dec 2009 05:54

^^^Am totally aghast at the wanton murder of TSPA brats (How could they attack the children!) in the mosque bumbing.

But then I have to compare the agony of the pious who also lost children in lalmasjid to TSPA white phosphorous!

Who is to say one pain is greater or better or superior to or more pious than the other?

When in doubt the one with the longer beard wins the debate on who is more pious in pakiland, IMHO. Holds true for both genders, besides.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 06:12

Zaid Hamids version of the movie Gadar. Kyaa acting hai

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03iYSdKk ... re=related

The propaganda sounds very much like Nazi Propaganda

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 05 Dec 2009 06:31

munna wrote:
The hypocrisy of Meat for the Army and Grasses for masses is now putting the entire nation in a deep ferment.

This is certainly what it is beginning to look like to me. The RAPE and army - even in Zaid Hamid's rants have completely ignored the Abduls and pretend as is RAPE + Army=Pakistan. That is ignoring 120 plus million people.

munna · Post by **munna** » 05 Dec 2009 06:47

shiv wrote:
munna wrote:
The hypocrisy of Meat for the Army and Grasses for masses is now putting the entire nation in a deep ferment.

This is certainly what it is beginning to look like to me. The RAPE and army - even in Zaid Hamid's rants have completely ignored the Abduls and pretend as is RAPE + Army=Pakistan. That is ignoring 120 plus million people.

I will post my thought on this matter after some deliberation, cause there seems to be an opening whereby India can play a constructive role in d(r)econstruction (not decimation or annihilation) of the current Pakistan into Commonwealth of West Indian Republics.

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 05 Dec 2009 06:56

Taliban takes credit

http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-ma ... rawalp.php

Claiming responsibility for Friday’s attack, the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) said the Parade Lane mosque was similar to Masjid-e-Zarrar built in Madina by the munafiqeen, and was “demolished on the orders of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)”.
Talking to BBC, TTP chief Waliur Rehman Mehsud said his men attacked senior army officers. “Our militants attacked the military officers (our primary target) and we will continue to attack the army,” he said, adding that the civilians killed in the attack were relatives of army personnel and their deaths “did not matter”.

Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-ma ... z0Ym3x8gY9

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 05 Dec 2009 06:58

[quote="SSridhar"]From SUCH GUP of TFT[quote]

What is TFT ?...can you provide a link..

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 05 Dec 2009 07:00

For all my bluster about piskology I am finding it hard to put a finger on how and where to classify Zaid Hamid. In a normal, sane nation a Zaid Hamid would not survive long. He does, of course, have his talents. He is a fiery speaker and a deadpan face that allows him to say things that would make the biggest liar betray some emotion and evasiveness. He is also a fully qualified RAPE - with sufficient English to effortlessly insert phrases like "This God's earth.." in his speech. The English expression generally comes in biblical literature or sermons by Christian preachers. Zaid Hamid is setting himself up as a fiery modern preacher of Islam aiming at the younger generation.

To me it appears that Zaid Hamid cannot exist without a hurt (or hurting) Pakistan to support him. They need to hear good things (Don't they know we started BENIS for bositive things long before ZH became famous

?)

I don't generally watch ZH videos because I find them exceedingly boring and the rhetoric is delivered better than me. But I watched one of them above - "Wake up Lawhore" or something. There are more than a few Pakis who look distinctly uncomfortable and are not applauding (and even avoiding eye contact with the camera) when the camera pans them during applause for a statement like "The Indians and Israelis are terrorized (sic

) of us"

Zaid Hamid seems to be a balm that Bakis apply on what passes for their minds at a time when Pakistainyat is looking like blossoming into the glory that Allah had planned for it.

S.Gautam · Post by **S.Gautam** » 05 Dec 2009 07:15

There are so many major terrorist attacks in Pakiland that Wikipedia cannot come up with names for all of them.

See the template at the bottom right on this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/December_2 ... ndi_attack

"14th Peshawar", "10th Rawalpindi" etc.

Highest ranking cities per wiki:

Peshawar (14)
Rawalpindi (10)
Islam-aint-bad (9)
La Whore (8)
Karachi (6)

Step it up, Talibunnies. I want these numbers in the 10s by the next Nov 26th. 100s for Pindi.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Dec 2009 07:39

Jarita wrote:Yeah I don't know. I don't understand them. Their behaviour is not rational. I can only hope for Indias sake that all Pakistani Intellectuals are like Zaid Hamid.

I am watching the Zaid Hamid vs Bharat Verma video. What paranoia, what hatred, amazing hatred.

Jarita, what do you not understand ? The behaviour of all Pakistanis, not only the so-called intellectuals (which is an oxymoron when that tag is applied to a Pakistani), is perfectly rational. If Capt. Bharat Verma had not anticipated the hatred, I shudder to think of other Indians.

Pakistan is a country divided by Islam but united by hatred for India. Full Stop.

Abhijit · Post by **Abhijit** » 05 Dec 2009 07:45

The cognitive dissonance of pakis in all strata is mind-boggling. The whole world knows that it is the more pious muslims in pureland that are killing the less pious (if not outright murtad) ones. But every paki forum/media, including well-known columnists have claimed that the killers can't be muslims - after all muslims can't kill muslims. I fervently wish them all the best and godspeed. The more these non-muslims (= more pious muslims) kill the (less pious) muslims, the better for the rest of the world.
Contrast this with the Korean student who killed a bunch of people in Virginia. By any reasonable definition, that killer was American in all aspects except the actual birth ethnicity. But the Korean community not only did acknowledge its moral responsibility and turned to introspection.

enqyoob · Post by **enqyoob** » 05 Dec 2009 08:11

"Whoever they saw they shot at. They were well trained and moved very quick."

Mumbai Nov. 2008.

Its their own children that suffer the consequences of their actions.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Dec 2009 08:14

More info on the attack - Nirupama Subramanian in The Hindu

The attack, carried out by six or seven attackers, at least two of them suicide bombers . . . Some of the men who stormed the mosque were thought to have escaped from the scene and hidden in the neighbourhood . . . Later reports said four attackers were killed but it remained unclear if all the attackers had been accounted for . . . A serving Major-General, Bilal Umer, Director-General of the armoured corps, was the highest ranking serving officer killed . . . The use of the mosque is strictly regulated, and entry is by membership only and worshippers must show identity cards. The mosque is said to have a maximum of 200 members.

It is not clear how many attackers there were to begin with. Eyewitnesses estimated there were six or seven. They were wearing white shalwar-kameez with ammunition loaded belts, and they are said to have scaled the side walls of the mosque using wooden ladders and entered it through windows around 1.20 p.m. Two of them blew themselves up, one on the first floor and another on the ground floor. An eyewitness told Dawn News television that the attackers threw grenades and caught people by their hair and shot them at close range.

Proves that there are people in Pakistan who show more hatred than Zaid Hamid, who are more pious than Zaid.

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 05 Dec 2009 08:18

Apparently 4 of the 8 attackers are still at large while 4 of them got killed. There is a massive manhunt in progress in pindi.
Jaljeera link- now it says 7-8