Pakistan's interior minister today found himself in the unusual position of being asked to bar himself from leaving the country as the fallout from a supreme court verdict continued to rock President Asif Ali Zardari's government.

Pakistan's interior minister today found himself in the unusual position of being asked to bar himself from leaving the country as the fallout from a supreme court verdict continued to rock President Asif Ali Zardari's government.
What are you happy about? both were RAW agents, it is our loss if 10%ti too lands in the UKAnanya wrote:Is Zardari in TSP or in UK partying with Mush
So now Zardari can't be prosecuted as he is presidente and has immunity. So he can never become un-presidente, lest he be arrested! How will he enjoy his 1.5 billion. It's like that Raaabert joke:2. Mr. Salman Akram Raja, learned counsel appearing on behalf of petitioner in Constitution Petition No. 76 of 2007 argued that:—
b) Legislative judgment cannot be enacted by the Parliament. [ Smt. Indira Nehru Gandhi v. Raj Narain (AIR 1975 SC 2299)].
Anyway, too bad since Zardari seemed a tad less Paki then the others...Liqueeed aaxygen me daal do: liqueeed jeene nai dega, aaaxygen marne nai dega
That's why the Pakjabis hate him because he is not a Islamist like them.MurthyB wrote: Anyway, too bad since Zardari seemed a tad less Paki then the others...
twitter is all over it, without any confirmation, seems gilani has been detained in a airport.saip wrote:Coup in Pakistan? CNN -- breaking news
Appears to be just speculation
After the tenth time drones kill the number three operations guy, only an idiot is willing to take that promotion. The smart terrorists ask for transfers to the Quality Control Division to wait things out.
Rehman Malik, the interior minister, whose own department overseesthe exit control list, is also among those barred from leaving the country. But it remained unclear whether Mr Zardari would be prevented from leaving Pakistan.
Is it not obvious to see who will be doing the chasing if we watch someone being chased out??!!Babar told The Daily Telegraph.
“We are going to defend ourselves. The president has made it absolutely clear that he will stay.
“Let them chase us out and let the whole world see who is doing the chasing.”
This article in the Daily Times would suggest that these were Ulema who had a rethink about being “Sarkari Ulema” and collaborating with the Government.SSridhar wrote:All Sarkari ulema fall sickI suspect Taliban hand because these guys issued a fatwa against warning not to do so by the TTP.Chairman Ruet-e-Hilal Committee Mufti Muneeb-ur-Rehman, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Hyderi and others have been rushed to hospital after falling ill during Ulama Conference here. According to reports, a meeting of ulama was underway at the residence of Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Hayderi in parliament lodges when they served breakfast. Mufti Muneeb, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Hyderi, Liaquat Baloch, Haji Hanif Tayyab and Mian Aslam fell ill soon after taking the breakfast and shifted to Poly Clinic.
Friday, December 18, 2009
Dissident’ ulema rushed to hospital after eating halwa
ISLAMABAD: Nine clerics were hospitalised on Thursday after they ate ‘poisoned’ halwa. According to details, some clerics decided to boycott the Ulema and Mashaikh Conference, saying they did not endorse the government’s stance on terrorism, jihad, drone attacks and the Taliban. They had gathered at Abdul Ghafoor Haideri’s residence to discuss the conference. The guests were served the halwa when Ruet-e-Hilal Committee Chairman Mufti Muneebur Rehman reached Haideri’s residence to take the “dissidents” into confidence over the draft declaration. All of them immediately fell sick, however, Mufti Muneeb left the premises and fell unconscious when he reached the conference. Meanwhile, according to hospital sources, the clerics are said to be in stable condition. tahir niaz/mahtab basher
Daily Times
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — In an exceptionally heavy barrage by American drones in Pakistan, five Predator aircraft fired 10 missiles at suspected militant compounds along the border with Afghanistan on Thursday. Along with an earlier attack, at least 15 people, including 7 foreigners, were killed, Pakistani security officials said.
The stepped-up drone strikes came as the civilian government felt the repercussions of a Supreme Court decision on Wednesday that declared unconstitutional an amnesty for thousands of politicians accused of corruption.
On Thursday, the National Accountability Bureau, acting with remarkable speed, prohibited 247 people, including some cabinet ministers, from leaving the country, as corruption cases could be revived against them.
They included Defense Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar, who was stopped at the Islamabad airport, along with his wife and secretary, from boarding a flight to China, where he was scheduled to make an official visit. He complained publicly that he had not been informed of the ban.
He is the least popular of the country’s political leaders, already weakened by several controversies. It is unfortunate that Mr. Zardari is also the only Pakistani leader today who has articulated a bold new vision for ties with India and has had the courage to stand up to jihadist militancy.
“Our relationship with Pakistan is complex,” the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia, David Sedney, told reporters after a meeting between the defence delegations of the two countries.
The 18th Defense Consultative Group Session -- the first since 2006 -- was led by Undersecretary of Defence for Policy, Michele Flournoy, and Pakistani Defence Secretary Lt Gen (rtd) Syed Athar Ali. The first such meeting was held in 2002.
“There have been a lot of ups and downs over the years, and there are a lot of areas where we still have a lot of open questions and where there are, for lack of a better word, issues that continue to fester from the past. While it’s unfortunate, that’s also understandable,” Sedney said.
“There are tensions on both sides... There’re things that Pakistan wants that we’re not able to do, things that we want Pakistan is not able to do,” he said in response to a query.
He said sometimes the discussions between both sides got “very, very difficult” while at times they are “very, very positive“.
For Pentagon, he said, focus now is on supporting Pakistan in its internal struggle against extremism and helping build a long-term strategic partnership that looks beyond the current light to a Pakistan that plays an important regional role in security.
“It was a frank and open discussion,” Sedney said.
The Pentagon is helping Pakistan improve its intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities, both through cooperative efforts that include border-cooperation centres, sharing of intelligence information, and also in the provision of additional equipment that the Pakistani government has asked for, he said.
Sydney said the US was confident that Pakistan has the ability to maintain security of their nuclear weapons.
“This is an area of course that’s very sensitive, important to the government and to the people of Pakistan. We are saying that we have confidence in the government, the people and the military of Pakistan,” he said.
During the meeting, Pentagon told Pakistani officials that the US role in Afghanistan is going to continue.
“That was a message that was very important to the Pakistanis, because they don’t want us to leave Afghanistan, as we did in 1989... We made that point,” Sydney said.
Militants in Iraq have used $26 off-the-shelf software to intercept live video feeds from U.S. Predator drones, potentially providing them with information they need to evade or monitor U.S. military operations.
So, it was not the Taliban but the 'Angels' from Aabpara after all.arun wrote:This article in the Daily Times would suggest that these were Ulema who had a rethink about being “Sarkari Ulema” and collaborating with the Government.
The “Sarkari Ulema” were reportedly at that time attending a completely different Ulema and Mashaikh Conference to endorse the Governments standpoint on terrorism.
From that standpoint the attempt to do them in with “poisoned halwa” may not have been initiated by the Taliban:
Dissident’ ulema rushed to hospital after eating halwa
. . .The guests were served the halwa when Ruet-e-Hilal Committee Chairman Mufti Muneebur Rehman reached Haideri’s residence to take the “dissidents” into confidence over the draft declaration.
. . . We have waged a purely defensive battle on our own territory. Such a reactive and passive stance was understandable in the era of the 1990s when we were trying to revive and liberalise our failing economy. But that stance is unsustainable beyond a point. It calls into question the Indian state's will to safeguard its vital national interests and the life of its citizens. . . .
The initial response to Pakistan-sponsored terror attacks could be air power and naval power or special forces centric. These should be just, focused, precise and proportionate responses that serve as warning shots and place the onus of further escalation squarely on Pakistan.
It is time India called Pakistan's nuclear bluff. Kargil clearly highlighted that there is no one-step nuclear escalation ladder in South Asia. The weight of deterrence in Pakistani military thinking is premised on its perceived parity in conventional military force with that of India's. This must be addressed on an urgent basis. Frankly it would be far better for India to deter such an attack than deal with its consequences. Deterrence, however, mandates a clear communication of resolve to respond. It is here that well-intentioned declarations of peaceful intent and abhorrence for war from our leadership could unfortunately have the opposite effect of inviting more such attacks.
90% of "hacking" is just finding a backdoor that no one thought to close. For instance in the 70s and 80s, a lot of OSs came with a default superuser account and password that most people never bothered to change upon installation. So a "hacker" would simply write a script to dial into a bunch of numbers and try the defaults and voila. Most of the script kiddies can't program worth diddly, but they have prewritten scripts written by someone else that try a variety of exploits. Script kiddies blindly run such scripts on machines without knowing how they really work, but media calls them "hackers".Vivek_A wrote:How retarded is the media? The insurgents used off the shelf software to read unencrypted signals. How is the same as "hacking"?
TSPA is like a drunk mad dog, with Keeyanee the last generation of half sense leaders. Everything after that are unthinkably worse.SSridhar wrote:Call Pakistan's Bluff
The clerics also demanded the government fulfil the constitutional requirements regarding implementation of sharia in the country.
In a joint declaration issued at the end of the conference, they said all religious and political parties, and the people of the country demanded the imposition of sharia.
They shouldn't complain then, when they are denied visas to the United States. Not enough embassy staff = 3 year long wait to be told that their visa is denied for some reason.amol.p wrote:Pakistan Reported to Be Harassing U.S. Diplomats
No tech transfer was done to the Pakis for good reasons. Can't have the Pakis leaking tech to the Chinese, can we. Same deal goes with the new F-16s the Pakis got. They have all sorts of tamper proof seals + regular checks by USAF personnel to make sure that no hanky panky has been attempted. Guess why Paki F-16s cannot retract their wheels below 2500 feet and have reduced thrust?sum wrote:All these years and Pakis cant even do basic repairs their helos?American helicopters used by Pakistan to fight militants can no longer be serviced because visas for 14 American mechanics have not been approved,
The secretary {Finance Secretary Salman Siddique} informed the committee that the government had envisaged substantial foreign investment from October onwards, but the numerous terrorist attacks had dashed all such hopes, as investors had put investment activity on hold.![]()
In the deadliest attack on Thursday evening, at least 15 people including seven foreigners were killed and several others injured when five US drones fired ten missiles on the suspected base of Taliban militants in Ambor Shaga and Degan area of the North Waziristan Agency.
Sources said the attack was the second of its kind in a day as the morning attack had also claimed two lives.
According to details, US drones targeted houses of tribesmen and when people gathered at the site, four more drones fired nine more missiles, which resulted in huge casualties.
Pakistan Government Dismisses Rumors of Military Coup (Update1)
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Dec. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari’s spokesman denied rumors of a coup after the defense minister was barred from leaving the country.
“There is no coup,” spokesman Farhatullah Babar was quoted as saying by Reuters. He confirmed the remark to Bloomberg News and declined further comment. Opposition lawmaker Siddiq-ul-Farooq said there “is no chance at all of a coup.”
Speculation mounted after Pakistan’s Supreme Court this week scrapped an amnesty protecting Defense Minister Chaudhry Ahmed Mukhtar and thousands of others from corruption charges. Mukhtar, who was among 248 officials and politicians placed on a travel-restriction list, said on GEO Television that he was told he couldn’t leave the country.
Political and legal squabbling may weaken the unpopular Zardari at a time when the U.S. is pressing his administration to extend a war with Islamic militants. Farroq, spokesman for former premier Nawaz Sharif’s Pakistan Muslim League, yesterday called on the president to resign.
When quizzed by CNN’s Wolf Blitzer about whether the travel ban signaled a possible coup was imminent, Pakistani ambassador to the United States Husain Haqqani replied: “I hope not.”
Civilian Rule
Haqqani said the country’s top military leaders had made it clear they were committed to civilian rule. Aside from media speculation, there were no signs to suggest any military takeover was imminent, he told CNN.
The euro rose against the dollar, ending three days of losses, as investor appetite for higher-yielding assets rose following the Reuters report. The euro gained to $1.4384 as of 2:50 p.m. in Tokyo from $1.4338 in New York yesterday, having earlier fallen as low as $1.4306.
The benchmark KSE100 Index was little changed, having fallen as much as 0.2 percent before trading 0.2 percent higher at 10:47 a.m. in Karachi. The gauge is up 60 percent this year.
“I won’t put much weight to this issue,” said Nasim Beg, who manages the equivalent of $190 million in stocks and bonds as chief executive officer at Arif Habib Investments Ltd. in Karachi. “Democracy is settling in, the rule of law is strengthening and this is just about some speculative investors who panic too easily.”
The National Accountability Bureau, Pakistan’s anti- corruption agency, revived charges against officials and politicians after the Supreme Court’s ruling two days ago. That had protected Zardari, Interior Minister Rehman Malik, Mukhtar and about 8,000 others from graft and criminal charges.
Mukhtar told GEO Television that he had planned to travel to China and said he would raise the issue in parliament.
Pakistan has been holding up visas for US officials and contractors and continued delays could have an "impact" on the effectiveness of aid programmes in the country, the US State Department said on Thursday.
Hundreds of visa applications and renewals for US personnel have been delayed and the United States has raised the problem with Pakistan's senior leadership, deputy spokesman Robert Wood said.
The New York Times reported the delays were part of a campaign by Pakistan's intelligence services and military to harass US diplomats who have been pushing for the Pakistani government to intensify the fight against the Taliban in Pakistan.
LAKKI MARWAT – Dozens of people miraculously escaped when a suicide attacker detonated his explosives at the hujra of District Nazim (DN) advocate Qudratullah Khan in Esakkhel village on Thursday.
The suicide bomber aging 14/15 years was killed in the blast but he could not succeed to kill others. The DN was meeting people who had come to his hujra to greet him on his return from Saudi Arabia after performing Haj there. The DN’s father Haji Muhammad Aslam Khan who holds an important position in Marwat Qaumi Jirga and always supported the government’s actions against militants also remind unhurt in the attack. It was a suicide attack and the blast took place when the bomber stumbled while entering the verandah to get close to the DN and his father”, DPO Ayyub told.
Minor correction needed in the title. Pak-India trade potential remains 'unexploded'. And given half a chance bakis will make sure it is fully exploded.LAHORE: Actual trade potential of Pakistan and India remains unexploited as it is tilted overwhelmingly in favour of India which refuses to import Pakistani goods by road while Islamabad has granted some permission.
India-Pakistan trade is unnaturally small, currently about $2.3 billion a year. Pakistan accounts for less than one per cent of India’s total trade, and Delhi accounts for less than five per cent of Pakistan’s overall trade.
India enjoys a huge trade surplus with sales to Pakistan of around $1.90 billion against imports of less than $300 million.
Experts point out that with transportation cost increasing, it is more feasible for the two countries to conduct trade through road instead of adopting sea route that results in heavy transportation cost.
The complete transcript of the December 17th 2009 news briefing held by David Sedney is available here:SSridhar wrote:There are tensions between the US & Pak: Pentagon
“Our relationship with Pakistan is complex,” the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defence for Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia, David Sedney, told reporters after a meeting between the defence delegations of the two countries. {Snipped} ..............................
Before getting into that however -- especially since I'm here on record, on camera -- I really want to stress, and this is the same thing that Undersecretary Flournoy stressed at the beginning of our talks, our heartfelt appreciation for, admiration for the courage of the Pakistani military and the Pakistani people as they face the very severe extremist threat and as they suffer.