Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

[Singha]

TOI - predictably the TV channels are angry and trying to drum up support to bring her back.

Nepal girl quietly deported
TNN 1 January 2010, 04:11am IST



PUNE: The hush-hush manner in which Pune police deported Nepal citizen Neetu Singh on December 5 has come as a shocker for her colleagues at the Film and Television Institute of India (FTII). They said they never found Neetu's activities to be "anti-national".

Pune police, however, said Neetu Singh, a final year student of editing at the FTII, was deported as her "activities were objectionable" and that they had received inputs that she may pose "threat to national security".

Even as Neetu reached Kathmandu, her batchmates in Pune are wondering what "anti-national activities" did she indulge in. "My friends and I went to the Deccan police station after her arrest, but cops didn't entertain us," said a first year student at FTII, on condition of anonymity.

Having assisted Neetu during the shoot for some diploma films, the student described her as a "friendly and warm" person. "She is extremely knowledgeable and very intelligent. We all like her a lot. In fact, the day after she got arrested, December 6, was the day she was going to start editing her diploma film," he said.

By December-end, Neetu would have graduated from FTII, said institute director Pankaj Rag. "I spoke to her after she reached Kathmandu. She expressed her wish to come back to the FTII to finish the course," said Rag. Another friend of Neetu's said, "She is one of the most harmless and nicest people I have ever known."

Talking to TOI, DCP (special branch) Ravindra Sengaonkar refuted allegations that Neetu was deported at the behest of her influential husband, a Nepali Congress politician, saying, "her family issues have nothing to do with her deportation."

Sengaonkar said, "She was studying at the FTII since last two years and her activities were constantly under watch. We thought she may be a threat for national security and hence deported her on December 5."

[chetak]

Here is TOI's Aman ki Asha project. This message was printed on a full-page false cover of the paper on New Year day.

Aman Ki Asha
An Indo-Pak Peace Project
The First Step

Sheer balderdash! Familiar paki tactic when up the gum tree.

Looks like much behind the scenes work has already gone in.

Just laying the foundation for another sellout with the "bigger brother" expected to give away everything.

[arun]

If I am not mistaken, the Chairman of Jang group is also a key member of the Nazariya-e-Pakistan council, a Zia promoted group to ensure that aam-abdul remains a rabid islamist and a potential suicide bomber through and through. ..............

Of course, all this is based on my premise that Jang-group chairman is part of Nazariya-e-Pakistan council, and the entire analogy may be incorrect if the premise is faulty.

IIRC the Newspaper group deeply enmeshed with the IEDology of Pakistan aka Nazariya-e-Pakistan is the Nawa-e-Waqt Group and not the Jang Group.

[Singha]

yes much planning has already gone in. a full schedule of events at elite venues are already printed out.

I suspect only the Pioneer will raise its voice against this blatantly anti-national and stupid campaign.

[SSridhar]

If I am not mistaken, the Chairman of Jang group is also a key member of the Nazariya-e-Pakistan council . . .

That is Majid Nizami, of the Nawa-i-Waqt group that runs The Nation in which Madam is the Editor.

[Chandragupta]

The way TOIlet is licking the backside of Pakistanis is no doubt a part of a bigger agenda. There is a desperate attempt to portray us equal-equal onlee. Expect the jholawalas & the p-sec crowd to go orgasmic over this facade & in the ensuing circus, with this garbage conveniently splashed over the front page of one of the largest selling newspapers in India, a change the mindset of the vulnerable youth so that when the next bunch of Kasabs come & kill people in cold blood, a larger crowd turns up at the India gate with candles to denounce the 'menace of terrorism'.

[sanjaychoudhry]

To get an idea of how stupid this TOI campaign of Aman ki Asha is -- which preaches pacificism and goodwill to the victim when the bodies of the Mumbai shootings are still warm -- imagine ToI printing the same message for Ruchika's father Subhash Chander Girhotra to make peace with Rathore after 19 years of bad blood. Here is what it will look like:

Love Rathore

Feels odd to you -- Ruchika's father -- to see those two words side by side doesn’t it?

Hatred and a desire for revenge somehow sit more comfortably in your mind when you think of him and what he did.

Words that you’ve been fed in daily doses over the last 19 years. And in greater doses over the last one year when Rathore was let off the hook easily.

Shutting your mind to the undeniable truth that Rathore living in the same town as you is above all, a man. Like you. He eats, sleeps, shits, breaks wind and gets an erection. Like you.

So here’s the question. Is there any chance at all, that you could still raise a hand to him not in anger but greeting?

Depends on who raises the hand first, some of us would say. Also how, whisper a few others. But mostly, it boils down to one simple question.

Why?

Why must you do it? Why do you need him? Why doesn’t he first say sorry for what he has done? And the answer is simple.

It is easier to say Hi than to say sorry. It’s shorter too.

Besides, there is no rule that says a book has to be closed before a new one is opened. Not even if it’s a book of crime against you and your daugther.

So on the first day of this new year, you’re going to make a start. Again.

With Aman ki Asha. a brave, new Girhotra-to-Rathore initiative by The Times of India and a charitable trust run by Rathore to bring you and Rathore – two fine people – closer together. Culturally, emotionally and peacefully.

Starting with a series of cultural interactions, seminars, music and literary festivals and citizen meets that will give the bonds of humanity between the two of you a chance to survive outside the battlefield of mutual hatred.

In the hope that one day, words like Rathore and Love will not seem impossible in the same sentence to you .

Aman Ki Asha
A ToI-Rathore Peace Project
The First Step

This is how absurd this ToI's message should look to all Indians who refuse to fall into this anti-national trap laid down by this notoriously shady and unethical newspaper with hush-hush Western linkages.

[chetak]

This is a pernicious attempt by rabidly anti-national Indian leftists, communists and jholawalas who have infiltrated into English media in droves. India has absolutely nothing to gain by this while Pakistan will benefit immensely. It is designed to defang the Indians and encourage them to recieve blows from Pakistan repeatedly with inertness.

Basically, Pakistani government and the Goras who back them and arm them know very well that the apple cart -- Pakistan hitting India repeatedly through terror -- can be upset once India makes up its mind to hit back and pay in the same coin. This "south Asian" business and "both are essentially the same people" campaigns are funded by the Goras in India to thwart exactly this possibility. They use TOI and Rediff for this purpose where they have made strategic investments to have editorial control.

It is stupid to think that peace between two countries depends on the goodwill of the two peoples, one of whom is on the recieving end of bomb blasts and shootings orchestrated by the other.

The people and their feelings do not matter at all in these things. It is the governments which drive these as a matter of strategy. The problem lies in the Pakistani ruling junta and its Islamic fanatacism, violence and terror as instruments of foriegn policy. The TOIlet's communist editors and deranged owner wants to hide this basic fact from ordinary Indians.

Only idiots can think that these kind of issues can be solved by westernised elites of two countries listening to ghazals together in five star hotels. This is a case where common people have more common sense than the "intellectuals" which have appointed themselves as thought leaders of the Indian society.

TOI is an American mouthpiece. Most of this pacifism business -- peace at all costs with Muslims and Pakistsan -- has been orchestrated by the Anglo Americans in India, right from their propping up of Gandhi and Nehru. Today, they are using Indian leftists -- the quintessential anti-nationals -- as useful idiots in this game. The idea is to demilitarize the Hindu society completely. This process started after 1857 war with propping up Gandhi to preach non-violence to the victims and the colonised. This TOI campaign is an extension of the same process.

This is part of the obama MMS discussions to accomodate paki requirements for sure.

The pakis were blackmailing the americans all the while and now it is India who is going to pay the price.

We should wait for the other shoe to drop and drop it will fairly soon, with a loud and (painful for India) thud.

[RamaY]

Do the Islamists in Pakistan look forward to a US invasion of the tribal lands? While such an invasion would weaken the Taliban to some extent, it will lead the public opinion in rest of Pakistan in favour of Islamists. That will strengthen them and possibly help them capture power in Pakistan?

IMHO it wouldn't be a bad outcome for India at all. An overtly Islamist govt in Pakistan would be better than current chaos. I wouldn't think the islamist Paki govt be any different from KSA/IRAN/Palestine govt. Am I wrong?

[RamaP]

Until now, there was only one media channel (the name is blatantly obvious) that specialized in portraying TSPA as a nation of noble and innocent people. If you watched any of the "fair" debates of this media outlet, you would find that Indian Government would be almost portrayed as evil and TSPA as being the victims of evil India. This Holier than thou attitude has seeped into other media outlets as well. With such a pathetic behavior of one of our pillars of democracy in public space, no wonder that the Chinese consider us pushovers and Pakjabis boast about themselves as a martial race.

[Anindya]

This is part of the obama MMS discussions to accomodate paki requirements for sure.

The pakis were blackmailing the americans all the while and now it is India who is going to pay the price.

Actually, there's been a whole series of things happening over the last 1 year - which clearly shows intent and a planned attempt to meet Pakistani demands on Kashmir:

- the Sagheer Ahmed report and its timing which suggest the weakening of Indian hold over its own territories

- the "reaction" to the Shopian incidents which clearly were planned to radicalize the local populations further and also increase support for further weakening of Indian interests

- the doctored report by Angana etc. on Kashmir which paints India in a very poor light and also uses subterfuge to paint India as the sole aggressor - this report was broadly discussed by BBC, TOI etc.

- This TOI tamasha co-sponsored by a far-right publication in Pakistan - directed if you notice towards Indian youth (the cultural exchanges from Jan 16 thru 24 are all in Indian cities)

- the SeS report which in many non-Indian circles has been seen as an admission of guilt in Balochistan - and of course subsequent, "statements" by US sources (which can happily be miscontrued by Pakis).

Also, please note that while Pakistan has not taken any steps to dismantle their terror infrastructure - surprisingly, there have been no high visibility terrorist attacks in India for close to 1 year - this is not possible without someone pulling strings in Pakistan.

[RamaP]

And all this Aman tamasha is going on even when there is zero steps taken by TSPA (token or otherwise) to bring 26/11 plotters to justice. Such kind of full page peace ad blitzkrieg desensitizes and numbs the masses. So, if public anger is two minutes to midnight post 26/11 and is calling for revenge, such "peace initiatives" numbs the masses and brings them back to bhai-bhai stance.

We can only hope that there are enough hawks (or practical thinkers in other words) who can see through this blatantly pacifist crap and not give in to bhai chara.

[Paul]

How does this play in with the extended build up on the India-China front. The two front statement by Gen Kapoor is significant.

Is it not to India's benefit to redeploy those de-inducted divisions from J&K to the NE/Ladakh where they are sorely needed to bolster our defences.

[Mahendra]

I can't but help @ the Sialkot Statistics churned out by this Vaman ki Asha bull-pakistaniyat from TOIlet

Pakistan is a peace loving country onlee, in fact more piss loving than the dirty Kaffirs of India

About two-thirds of those polled in India (66%) and almost three-fourths of those in Pakistan (72%) said they desire a peaceful relationship between the two countries

Them murderous Hindoos

“I want peaceful and friendly relations to prevail between India and Pakistan”. In other words, only a tiny minority, 17% in India and 8% in Pakistan, were opposed to the idea of consigning hostility to the dust bin of history

Pakistanis are more optimistic

Once again, we were pleasantly surprised by the findings of the poll. A clear majority in both cases — 59% in India and an even higher 64% in Pakistan — said they were either “very hopeful” or “quite hopeful

and some more chest-thumping over Vaman ki Asha, Headley to Rah ul Butt contacts

Can people-to-people initiatives — which is what Aman ki Asha is really all about — be effective in bringing about the peaceful relationship that is so fervently desired? The vote in this case was decisive. In India, 78% said they were an “effective” or “very effective” instrument of peace. If that sounds massive, the verdict was even more unequivocal in Pakistan, where 85% chose one of these two responses

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 400921.cms

And as expected no information about the sample size or sampling mechanisms, randomisation, anonymity waghera waghera and yet the TOIlet has the gall to come up with such ridiculous figures and peddle it to the masses as facts

[pgbhat]

^
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 400929.cms

Pakistan is close to Bachchan’s heart. His mother was born there. “The only time I have visited was when she took me to Layallpur, where she was from. I was about two then and of course, I don’t remember that trip,” he says. His ties with the neighbour country, though, have remained intact throughout. “I’m in touch with my mother’s friends and their families. In fact, when my daughter got married, my mother’s friend sent her a traditional shaadi ka joda all the way from Pakistan. That’s the sort of bond we still share.”

Lauding the Aman Ki Asha initiative, the actor adds, “I believe it is more important to build bridges than to complain that the road is bumpy. This campaign will help the two countries hold hands in friendship.”
The essence of this distinct idea stayed with him and late Sunday night, Bachchan posted these lines on his blog: “We are now two different countries, India and Pakistan, but our cultures match, as do our food and living habits and our speech. We have been in dispute and rancour on many an occasion and continue to be so, but how wonderful for the media of both the nations to want to start this unique move in building each other’s confidence and faith in the other.”

The shoot is pronounced perfect in just a couple of takes. And Amitabh Bachchan leaves the sets exactly the way he had come in.

Quietly and without any fuss. Director Sircar looks pleased with what he’s canned and strolls about unhurriedly. “It’s time to bury the past and look ahead,” he says. “Pakistan is another country. We must celebrate our similarities and embrace our differences.”

[shravan]

Pakistan, India exchange nuclear site lists: ministry

(AFP)

ISLAMABAD — Pakistan and India on Friday exchanged lists of their nuclear sites under an annual accord, after a year of strained relations between the arch-rivals, Pakistan's foreign ministry said.

[Paul]

India and China are heading for a showdown, big time. For several years now China has for no reason at all been provoking India in the north, and doing it again and again. Aggressive patrolling, building roads across Indian territory, arms to Indian insurgent groups, just a non-stop series of provocations.

From www.Orbat.com

We need to priotize our security threats. we had the opportunity to defeat Pakistan in the 1970-85 period and we did not do it. That train has left the station. There is no point in continuing this trench warfare in J&K when we have the gigantic threat looming across the entire North Indian border.

If the price for combating this threat is to reach a tactical compromise with Pakistan for a few years, maybe it is an option worth pursuing.

[RamaP]

I wonder what else Mr Bachchan would do to promote his next film after all those duds that he gave in the past year. Surely, Bollywood guys have a thing for the apparent beauty on the other side of the border. The Pakjabi martial race surely attracts many in Bollywood.

For all those who are shocked by this Aman Blitzkrieg, wait till you start hearing statements like "Kasab gunehgaar nahi hain...... Gunaah hamari soch main hain......60 saal se hum nafrat paal rahe hain.... that is the reason we have uninvited Kasabs in our territory". If Kasab can wait for a year or at least 6 months, who knows we might even hand him over to TSPA at Wagah border as a token of peace....

[Mahendra]

^
Before Umrao John steps is

All is maya and Dawood bhai's paisa

[amol.p]

Five killed in blast in Pak's troubled northwest
.........Welcome to new year with IED Mubarak.....

At least five persons were killed when the vehicle they were traveling in was targeted with a roadside bomb in Pakistan's restive northwestern Bajaur tribal region on Friday. The attack occurred in Salarzai sub-division of Bajaur tribal agency, officials of the local administration said.

The vehicle was targeted with a remote controlled bomb, they said. At least five persons in the vehicle were killed and several others were injured, the officials told TV news channels. The vehicle was destroyed by the blast.

Security forces cordoned off the area and launched a rescue operation....{who are they trying to rescue}. Security forces had conducted a major operation against the Taliban in Bajaur last year.

Meanwhile, the Taliban disassociated themselves from a militant commander's claim that the group was behind the suicide attack on a Muharram procession of Pakistani Shia Muslims in Islamabad that killed 43 people.

Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan spokesman Azam Tariq said his group was not behind the suicide bombing of the procession in Karachi on December 28.

Speaking from an undisclosed location, Tariq told reporters that militant commander Asmatullah Shaheen may have accepted responsibility for the attack on behalf of his own faction.

The central leadership of the Tehrik-e-Taliban had nothing to do with Shaheen's claim or the attack, Tariq said. He said the Tehrik-e-Taliban had not carried out the attack as it has nothing to do with sectarian activities. Shaheen had not consulted the Tehrik-e-Taliban's central leadership before claiming responsibility for the attack and he would be 'interrogated' in this regard, Tariq said.

On Wednesday, Shaheen, a little-known militant commander, had called reporters in Peshawar and claimed responsibility for the attack that killed 43 people. He had also warned that his men would carry out more such strikes in the next ten days.

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/jan/ ... thwest.htm

[SSridhar]

Khaled Ahmed in TFT

Yet the national consensus as it evolves in the country will be inauthentic and damaging to Pakistan. The components of this consensus against the executive include the jihadi organisations, the Taliban, Al Qaeda and clerics linked to religious parties and the madrassa network. More dangerously, public opinion in Pakistan is more akin to the one produced in totalitarian societies, with its nay-sayers firmly marginalised and threatened by terrorism. Jihadi publications once considered banned and taken out surreptitiously – Zarb-e-Momin, Al Qalam, Islam, Jarraar , etc – have become mainstream news-stall items because public opinion has swung sharply towards their orientation.

It will be difficult for any institution to correct the sharply listing ship of the state. The army may realise that it had committed a blunder by speaking out against the Kerry-Lugar Bill, but will not be able to right the past wrong because of the pressure of the national consensus.

[kenop]

Non-cooperation by the PPP Govt to the UN probe in the shahadat of its leader

The UN probe into the killing of former premier Benazir Bhutto has hit a roadblock with the Pakistan government denying access to top military officials, including powerful army chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.

The UN inquiry commission headed by Ambassador Heraldo Munoz had submitted a written request some time ago for access to senior military officials, including Kayani, former ISI chief Lt Gen Nadeem Taj and ex-Military Intelligence head Lt Gen Nadeem Ejaz Mian.

After thorough consultations within the government, the UN panel was informed in writing that access to military officials could not be granted, Dawn News channel reported quoting an unnamed top government official.

There was no official word on the development.

The UN panel had sought access to the serving Pakistani military officials shortly after it interviewed former President Pervez Musharraf in New York in November last year.

Acting on a request from the Pakistan People's Party-led government, the UN appointed a three-member inquiry commission to determine the facts and circumstances of Bhutto's assassination on December 27, 2007.

The panel is not expected to name suspected culprits and any criminal investigation will be up to Pakistani authorities.

[SSridhar]

Non-cooperation by the PPP Govt to the UN probe in the shahadat of its leader

This non-cooperation with the UN Commission comes from Gilani under pressure from the Army. It is one more grievance by the PA in its long list against the President. It also shows how much Gilani is under the Army's thumb and how much difference exists between him and Zardari.

[RamaP]

CIA has promised vengeance in the wake of forward base attack. So it remains to be seen as to what will be the vengeance? More IED mubaraks by Xe/TTP in Pakjab ? Or another Sargodha style plot to attack the Paki nukes?

[shravan]

Pakistan volleyball game 'hit by suicide bomber'

A bomb has exploded at a sports field in the troubled north-west region of Pakistan, where a volleyball game was under way.

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Update
Car blast kills 15 in Laki Marwat

At least 15 people were killed and several other wounded on Saturday after a suicide bomer rammed his explosive-laden vehicle into the wall of a volleyball ground at Shah Hassankhel town in Laki Marwat.

[SSridhar]

A bomb has exploded at a sports field in the troubled north-west region of Pakistan, where a volleyball game was under way.

May be the male players were wearing shorts which the Taliban so furiously and rightly oppose. Does anyone remember the thrashing the Pakistani football players received in the hands of the Taliban in Afghanistan a decade back ?

[kittoo]

CIA has promised vengeance in the wake of forward base attack. So it remains to be seen as to what will be the vengeance? More IED mubaraks by Xe/TTP in Pakjab ? Or another Sargodha style plot to attack the Paki nukes?

Did I miss something? While I understand that CIA will obviously be itching for vengeance, did they actually say it? That seems unlikely.

[anupmisra]

May be the male players were wearing shorts which the Taliban so furiously and rightly oppose.

More likely the pious pakis are following their traditional customs of bringing in the new year with a bang. Suicide bomb kills 20 at volleyball site

Police said Friday's bombing in Lakki Marwat city, not far from South Waziristan, was possible retaliation for local residents' efforts to keep militants out of the area.

[Gerard]

Did I miss something? While I understand that CIA will obviously be itching for vengeance, did they actually say it? That seems unlikely.

link

"The CIA is already working hard to find those who supported the Khost attack," a U.S. intelligence official, adding "this attack will be avenged through successful, aggressive counterterrorism operations."

[JE Menon]

This may well be the ISI's roundabout way, through the Haqqani network, of retaliating for the CIA-controlled Predator strikes that have taken out a few ISI people over the past year.

No. I have no source for this.

[abhijitm]

Remote-controlled bomb attack kills four in Bajaur
so taliban is learning new ways of detonation or are they running out of give-me-my-72s?

[symontk]

Aman ki Asha

Only until next big one sponsered by ISI. After that it will be TOI ki Nirasha

[Suppiah]

Happy New year to all Pakbarians lurking in this forum...may a thousand IED's bloom..may a lot of pure animals attain their 72s killing less pure animals in Pakbarbaric-animalistan. May drones fly in formations their droppings bring even more purity and piety..and of course, create a virtual cycle of piety that get expressed through IEDology.

[shravan]

Suicide bomb kills 40 at volleyball site
AFP

[Suppiah]

Remote-controlled bomb attack kills four in Bajaur
so taliban is learning new ways of detonation or are they running out of give-me-my-72s?

This is better, instead of wasting a precious life taking out just 4 barbarians...

[abhijitm]

Suicide bomb kills 40 at volleyball site
AFP

meter is still running. jang is reporting 47.

[abhijitm]

apparently this is unreportable affair for the nation. But yes they are ready to deal with misadventure: FO

[Charlie]

Pakistanis and Afghans arrested in China heroin bust

HONG KONG: Two Pakistanis and two Afghans could face the death penalty in China following their arrest in a major heroin bust, a report said Friday, days after a Briton convicted on drugs charges was executed.

The four, whose nationalities had hitherto not been revealed, were among nine people arrested after the police in September uncovered about 145 kilograms (320 pounds) of heroin stuffed inside cotton bales in Shenzhen, the South China Morning Post reported.

The case was the biggest heroin haul in the southern Chinese city and authorities there believed the drugs were intended for the local market, the newspaper said, citing an unnamed local government worker familiar with the case.

It also highlighted how China has turned from the biggest transition point into a major primary market for drugs as the society becomes more affluent and demand for illicit goods increases.

In the 1990s, drugs were often produced in the Golden Triangle -- Myanmar, Thailand, and Laos -- and smuggled via mainland China to Hong Kong, where they could fetch high prices, the source told the newspaper.

“This has since changed. Since 2004, most heroin has been flowing in from Afghanistan. It is often sold in big mainland cities -- not just Guangzhou, Shenzhen or Shanghai, but also Urumqi, Chongqing or Chengdu,” the source said.

The case came to light after the execution of Briton Akmal Shaikh, 53, on Tuesday sparked a diplomatic row between Beijing and London, which accused China of ignoring evidence that Shaikh was mentally ill and duped into smuggling for a criminal gang.

Shaikh was arrested two years ago in China's far-west Xinjiang region after customs officials found four kilograms of heroin in his bags.

China regularly executes drug smugglers, but Shaikh was the first European national to receive the death penalty in China in more than 50 years, according to London-based charity Reprieve. –AFP

[shravan]

Bomb found, defused in Karachi
Updated at: 1940 PST, Friday, January 01, 2010

KARACHI: A 6-kg of bomb planted at a roadside in Shadman Town was defused by the bomb disposal squad in Karachi on Saturday.

The bomb disposal squad said that the bomb could have devastated the area.

[Mahendra]

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Krachi riots CCTV footage

Happy New Year Pakbarian lurks.
Hope the moths further eat into Djinnah's moth eaten gift to his cretinous brethren