Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 05 Jan 2010 03:33

Comments on Lakki Marwat bombing on LWJ.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 05 Jan 2010 04:15

Anyone remember the post I had made a few months back, where I had compared the Pakistan Ordinance factory Mortars with the ones the pakistanis were supposedly claiming was of Indian origin?

Well a picture very similar to that made it to Chuha Ahmed Qureshi's show.

Apparently, some media outlet in pakistan caught hold of that piece of news and went about bashing the Pak fauj for showing POF wah's mortar as an Indian mortar.

This is causing chuha qureshi lots of takleef.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 05 Jan 2010 04:19

pgbhat wrote:Comments on Lakki Marwat bombing on LWJ.

these are the most weirdest responses i have seen from pakistanis. huh, who nu pakistanis could think like that?

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 05:33

pgbhat wrote:Comments on Lakki Marwat bombing on LWJ.

Somebody there is claiming

Wali-ur-Rehman Mahsud's press conference inside the Army fort is just tip of this iceberg.

Is anybody aware of that ? Any links ? TIA.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 05:35

shaardula wrote:
pgbhat wrote:Comments on Lakki Marwat bombing on LWJ.
these are the most weirdest responses i have seen from pakistanis. huh, who nu pakistanis could think like that?

I completely agree with you. It was a revelation. Hope they are not somebody else masquerading as Pakis.

A closer reading reveals two strands, both expressed by every poster. One strand is optimism and the other is reality. The reality doesn't lead to the optimism expressed at all. So, the optimism is delusional and desperation.

putnanja · Post by **putnanja** » 05 Jan 2010 05:42

SSridhar wrote: I completely agree with you. It was a revelation. Hope they are not somebody else masquerading as Pakis.

Some of the comments doesn't appear to be those of pakis, more like some one else masquerading as pakis, unless the author (Omar) stripped out all the usual YYY conspiracy theory posts and posted only the sane ones

RamaY · Post by **RamaY** » 05 Jan 2010 05:50

RaviBg wrote:
SSridhar wrote: I completely agree with you. It was a revelation. Hope they are not somebody else masquerading as Pakis.
Some of the comments doesn't appear to be those of pakis, more like some one else masquerading as pakis, unless the author (Omar) stripped out all the usual YYY conspiracy theory posts and posted only the sane ones

I doubt it. There are comments of one brother who wanted to continue with the "road well travelled".

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 05 Jan 2010 06:55

When the news becomes news ---- Mosharraf Zaidi

Indian army chief Deepak Kapoor (or in the spirit of the TOI-Jang Group's "Aman ki Asha" campaign, Disco Deepak) says what any Indian needs to know to be able to sleep at night (but usually doesn't), and the Pakistani media goes into overdrive. Hillary Clinton comes to town, and desi boys, wanting to flex their rotund patriotic muscle before the most powerful woman on the planet, get bellicose with their questions. Blackwater, it turns out, has been working in Pakistan all along, and the press gets even more infuriated with America's role in their country.

That the scathing criticism of the Pakistani media (at home and abroad) is ideologically motivated, rather than by facts, doesn't mean there should be no criticism at all. That is why it's important that Pakistanis that have been probing the statements of Disco Deepak should be prepared to be at least ten times as probing of the next utterance of Gen Kiyani, who -- unlike Disco Deepak -- is leading an active war, as abstract and contentious as it may be.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 06:58

Gen. Deepak Kapoor's remarks generate heat in Pakistan

Among others, quoted below are Mushahid 'Mandela' Hussain's views.

Opposition politician Mushahid Hussain Sayed went a step further and demanded that New Delhi sack its Army chief for making "irresponsible statements."

The secretary-general of the PML(Q), which was the ruling party during the rule of General Pervez Musharraf, said New Delhi "must immediately clarify whether the irresponsible war-mongering statement of General Deepak Kapoor was his own view or represents the official position of the Government of India." {Mr. Hussain, India is not Pakistan where the Army pursues an agenda of its own which the democratic government is even unaware of and cannot control}

Describing Pakistan and China as India's "peaceful neighbours," he told a press conference that the statements were "the height of irresponsibility," and the United Nations Security Council must take note of them as they were distracting attention away from the efforts against terrorism.

Pakistan was "united in its resolve to stand behind its armed forces to defend the country from any threats of war," and rejected "the militaristic, jingoism" of the Indian Army chief that represented "the outdated hawkish mindset of the Indian establishment," said Mr. Sayed.

Prem · Post by **Prem** » 05 Jan 2010 07:04

Here is another Ma Di Ladli, Wonder what happen to Ayub's dictum!!
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=216861
India's provocative military doctrine
Dr Maleecha Lodhi

In fact, the shorter the duration needed for a mobilisation the greater the risk of escalation and the likely lowering of Pakistan's nuclear red lines. Squeezing the timeframe will only make the situation more dangerous and unstable. The long fuse in a crisis provided by the time required for assembly and deployment of forces has so far helped to avoid a catastrophic war.If operationalised, the "cold start" doctrine will force Pakistan to re-evaluate its policy of keeping its nuclear arsenal in "separated" form and move towards placing its strategic capability in a higher state of readiness, including deploying a "mated" capability -- i.e., mating warheads to delivery systems. The action-reaction cycle will move the subcontinent to a perilous state of hair-trigger alert.Similarly destabilising would be the espoused goal to secure a "technological edge" by India's effort to acquire a missile-defence shield and build its PAD (Prithvi Air Defence) capabilities. India may feel that the acquisition of anti-ballistic missile (ABM) systems (possessed by only the US, Russia and Israel) will give it the capability to neutralise Pakistan's missile capabilities. This would be a dangerous presumption.

The deployment of ballistic missile defence (BMD) capabilities is likely to enhance fears that an offensive pre-emptive strike, conventional or nuclear, could be undertaken behind the BMD shield. Such a capability in the context of the "cold start" doctrine would increase the possibility of a military adventure by providing an illusion of "comfort."

This would enhance the incentive for Pakistan to multiply the numbers of missiles and increase operational readiness to avoid the destruction of these assets in a pre-emptive strike. Pakistan will likely be obliged to take a series of other counter-measures to break through the BMD system.

This is a recipe for a costly and unnecessary arms race. A much better option is to pursue the strategic stability regime offered by Islamabad to Delhi that would stabilise nuclear deterrence by, among other steps, the mutual commitment not to develop or induct BMD systems into the region. But this does not seem to fit into India's ambitions.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 07:06

Mujibur Rehman's killers may be executed within a month

. . .while six convicts are still hiding outside the country and one is dead.

Some of them are in Pakistan.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 05 Jan 2010 07:22

jamwal wrote:
vera_k wrote:
But I wonder if this initiative by the ToI is nothing more than the INC gearing up for an election somewhere. I remember the BJP was advertising online in the Pak papers before the 2009 Lok Sabha elections.
BJP was not advertising on Paki papers by itself. Those ads were user targeted ads based on the location of the geographical location of user. Somewhat like google ads

Well, yes. But the INC is far richer and more resourceful such that they would not have to restrict themselves to online media.

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jan 2010 08:10

X Posted.

Looks like the suicide attack targeting the US’s CIA in Afghanistan was linked after all to the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Claims of involvement by Hakimullah Mehsud of the Pakistani Taliban are finding off the record corroboration with the news that a Jordanian national, as claimed by the Pakistani Taliban, was indeed the suicide bomber.:

Source: Jordanian double-agent killed 7 CIA officers in suicide blast

By Barbara Starr, CNN
January 5, 2010 -- Updated 0214 GMT (1014 HKT)

Washington (CNN) -- The suicide bomber who killed seven CIA officials and a Jordanian military officer last week in Afghanistan was a Jordanian double-agent, a former U.S. intelligence official told CNN Monday.

The bomber was a source who came to the base camp in Khost near the Pakistan border for a meeting on December 30, a senior U.S. official also confirmed.

The man had been used by both countries' intelligence services in the past, and had provided information about high-value targets, the senior U.S. official said.

"Yes, it was a joint U.S.-Jordanian source who had provided over the period of his cooperation a lot of very detailed good information that was of high interest at the most senior levels of the U.S government," the former U.S. intelligence official said. ………………………

On Sunday, however, Pakistani Taliban chief Hakimullah Mehsud said in an e-mail that "we claim the responsibility for the attack on the CIA in Afghanistan."

"The suicide bomber was a Jordanian national. This will be admitted by the CIA and the Jordanian government" the message said. ………………………

CNN

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Jan 2010 09:06

India's provocative military doctrine
Dr Maleecha Lodhi

The TFTA seem to be following the 1:10 formula.

1 Indian statement = 10 Paki responses + 10 brown pants.

Shows how $hit scared the Pakis really are ( beneath the false bravado)

rohiths · Post by **rohiths** » 05 Jan 2010 09:31

It happens only in Bakistan
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -05-sal-01

As a partial lunar eclipse began at 11:52 p.m. in the country, Karachi, the city which is still recovering from the shock of the Ashura blast that killed 44 people on December 28, reverberated with gunfire from many neighborhoods, celebrating its advent into the new decade.

Hospitals across the city started to receive people hit by stray bullets immediately after midnight. “We received the first patient at around 12:15 a.m.,” informs Civil Hospital’s Dr Suresh Kumar. “Luckily, the 12-year-old child Waqar received a bullet wound on his limb and his condition stabilised later in the night.”

The doctor reports that 18 cases were brought to Civil Hospital after midnight, including Shamroz (15, from Garden), Hammad (20, near M.A. Jinnah Road), Ghalib (52, Mosa Lane), Akbar (22, Jamshaid Road), Ahmed Aleem (24), Arshad (18), Abbas (25, Ranchorr Line), Jamal (27. Lyari), Nafees (20, Agra Taj), Mohammad Ali (24, Agra Taj), Hameeda (42, Kalri), Mansoor Hasan (24), Dildar (28, Guru Mandar), Danish (18), Waseem (25, Ramsawan), Abdul Basit (22, Lyari) and Hassam Mohammad (17, Usmanabad).

pgbhat · Post by **pgbhat** » 05 Jan 2010 09:46

Joint Pak-US action against Taliban in the offing

“The most important thing we can do is to coordinate our operations with the Pakistan Army and then there is, of course, going to be political coordination.”

Surprisingly, Gen McChrystal, did not broach either the Haqqani Network or the Quetta Shura – the two problems that have posed serious challenges to cooperation between the two countries.

Gen McChrystal, who was all praise for the military’s counter-insurgency campaign and the leadership of Army Chief Gen Kayani, said he had no reasons to doubt Pakistan Army’s sincerity.

“I’m hopeful of the time when the Haqqani Network, which is causing damage inside Afghanistan, is taken on by both of us jointly to reduce the damage they are causing. It is important that we together do that.”

About the Quetta Shura, he said that the best course was cooperation with Pakistan military. He opposed any direct action against the Shura.

“Taliban that threaten Afghanistan need to be pressured everywhere … Partnership with Pakistan is the best road to that as we strengthen the strategic partnership … that is the best way I think.”

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Jan 2010 09:53

X-post.

Pakis being, well , Pakis.

sum wrote:More RAW activity in Nepal:

Fake rupee arrests in Nepal confirm Pakistan link

The arrest of a Nepali politician and two Pakistani nationals with fake Indian currency in the heart of Kathmandu during a New Year crackdown has re-confirmed the Pakistani link to the international racket.

The arrest of Yunus Ansari, chairman of Rastriya Janata Dal and son of former minister Salim Miyan Ansari by Nepal Police has been hailed as a major a major step in the drive against fake currency.

Although Ansari, his Nepali aide Kashi Ram Adhikari and Pakistani nationals Mohammad Iqbal and Sajjad Mohammad Khurram were arrested on Friday, the matter came to limelight when they were produced in court late on Sunday.

Nepal Police had been keeping a tab on Ansari following a request from India’s Central Bureau of Investigation after two Nepalis arrested in Madhya Pradesh with fake currency revealed the young politician was the main conduit for counterfeit notes in Nepal.

Ansari is alleged to have links with Pakistan’s ISI and is also stated to be underworld don Dawood Ibrahim’s main contact man in Nepal.

He is also stated to be associated to the Mumbai underworld.

Based on an intelligence tip-off, Ansari and Adhikari were arrested from a hotel room with fake Indian currency worth Rs 25.4 lakh.

They led the police to the two Pakistani nationals who were arrested from another hotel. Nearly 3.7 kg heroin were found in their possession. According to preliminary investigation, the fake currency notes are brought to Kathmandu from Karachi by air with help of conduits.

Mihaylo · Post by **Mihaylo** » 05 Jan 2010 10:35

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Sheik Chilli investigation agency proves Indian hand in Krachi and Tibet riots

lol...this is hilarious.

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 05 Jan 2010 10:37

rohiths wrote:It happens only in Bakistan
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -05-sal-01
As a partial lunar eclipse began at 11:52 p.m. in the country, Karachi, the city which is still recovering from the shock of the Ashura blast that killed 44 people on December 28, reverberated with gunfire from many neighborhoods, celebrating its advent into the new decade.

Hospitals across the city started to receive people hit by stray bullets immediately after midnight. “We received the first patient at around 12:15 a.m.,” informs Civil Hospital’s Dr Suresh Kumar. “Luckily, the 12-year-old child Waqar received a bullet wound on his limb and his condition stabilised later in the night.”

Right to bear guns

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 10:43

Zardari clarifies his usage of the term, 'Political Weapons'

Assemblies are my political weapons, says Zardari

President Asif Ali Zardari has billed the elected assemblies as his “political weapons”, and said he would “foil all conspiracies” through his weaponry.

In an interview with BBC Urdu, the president said, “We are politicians, and will solve all the problems in a political manner.” {That is a message to the PA to layoff}

Zardari said he was a constitutionally-elected president, but “some circles” had been employing unconstitutional methods to remove him from the Presidency.

The president made the comments the very day the Balochistan Assembly passed a confidence motion, while the Sindh Assembly has already approved a similar resolution. Close presidential aides have said that the NWFP Assembly would soon follow course, and they would also try to table confidence resolutions in the National Assembly and the Punjab Assembly.{A clear inference therefore who these 'circles' are. It cannot be anything but the PA. The 'establishment' may help the PA but cannot be the initiator of such a move. Those days of the 'establishment' being the supreme power were long gone by after Ayub Khan dealt a decisive blow to them in c. 1958}

Most political analysts are viewing these comments as a reference to the army or the establishment. But presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar says the president has been referring to “anti-Bhutto elements”.{The phrase 'Anti-Bhutto elements' is a clear reference to the PA }

Satya_anveshi · Post by **Satya_anveshi** » 05 Jan 2010 11:02

SS garu,

Are there Anti-Bhutto and Pro-Bhutto factions within Pak Army? It will be an interesting division to say the least.

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jan 2010 11:31

anupmisra wrote:You heard it here first. Apparently, there is a Shaheed Benazir Bhutto International Boxing Tournament in memory of her constantly duking it out with her fellow countrymen.

There indeed is a Shaheed Benazir Bhutto Boxing Tournament in which the deceased motorham will no doubt receive much merit for the tournament organizers efforts in converting six boxers to Islam:

Boxers to enter Islam

Tuesday, January 05, 2010
By our correspondent

KARACHI: Six boxers of Central Africa have decided to embrace Islam after they were greatly struck by the behaviour of the Muslims during their stay here.

The spokesman of the Pakistan Boxing Federation (PBF) said on Monday that these boxers will be recited Kalma by mufti Naeem during a special gathering here at a local hotel at 2:00pm on Tuesday (today). ……………….

A PBF official said that they are very much impressed the way they are being treated here during the tournament as well as they are captivated and struck by the behaviour of the Muslims in routine life. ……………….

Not content with just converting Central African boxers to Islam, the Pakistan Boxing Federation as an encore is looking to converting Central African footballers to Islam:

………………… The vice-president of the PBF Iqbal Hussain told ‘The News’ that the chairman of the football federation of the Central African Republic is also willing to enter into the fold of Muslim Umma.

“He has shown his willingness to embrace Islam during an interview with a TV channel and it is expected that he will also leave Christianity and enter into Islam,” the PBF official said. He said that it is a great news and great achievement of the boxing tournament being held here.

Read it all:

The News

svinayak · Post by **svinayak** » 05 Jan 2010 11:41

SSridhar wrote:Gen. Deepak Kapoor's remarks generate heat in Pakistan

http://news.google.com/news/more?pz=1&c ... FyGTJu280M

'Govt should take up Indian Army chief's statement with UN'
Daily Times - ‎6 hours ago‎
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid Secretary General Mushahid Hussain Syed on Monday asked the government to take up Indian Army chief General Deepak

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jan 2010 11:44

Against the backdrop of the mayhem in NWFP/FATA, Karachi has come out with a cameo performance with Mohajir on Mohajir violence being a leading cause of target killings:

Karachi target killings have claimed 256 lives

Tuesday, January 05, 2010

Body formed to probe incidents; Rangers given additional powers;issuance of arms licences banned

By Shakeel Anjum

ISLAMABAD: As many as 256 people, including workers of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), the MQM (Haqiqi), the PPP and the ANP, have so far fallen prey to target killings in Karachi. ..............................

The meeting was told that 256 target killings took place in Karachi and those killed included 69 people belonging to the MQM, 60 to the MQM (Haqiqi), 28 to the PPP, 23 to the ANP and other political parties and 41 people belonging to religious groups. .............................

The News

Malayappan · Post by **Malayappan** » 05 Jan 2010 12:38

'PPP should be transformed into party of Ghazis' Fire and brimstone speeches made in party convention.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 12:50

Satya_anveshi wrote:Are there Anti-Bhutto and Pro-Bhutto factions within Pak Army? It will be an interesting division to say the least.

The PA is a well disciplined army. I am not convinced that there are 'roguish elements' within either the PA or the ISID. They all carry out the orders passed on to them by their superiors. If the top echelons decide that LeT must be helped to mount an urban warfare in Mumbai, the entire ISID machinery will faithfully execute it. If the top echelons decide that Bhuttos were the enemies, then so be it down the line to the last soldier. Anyway, very few Sindhis or Balochis are there in the PA to cause any division, if at all.

That is why, IMHO, if PPP says that anti-Bhutto elements are out to expel the President, it cannot mean anybody but the PA/ISI/MI combine.

Stan_Savljevic · Post by **Stan_Savljevic** » 05 Jan 2010 13:02

Suppiah · Post by **Suppiah** » 05 Jan 2010 13:53

^^^ How can there be 'rougish elements' in a gang of rogues..how can there be fanatic barbarian elements in a gang of fanatic barbarian animals...the TSP army is the same as Taliban which is the same as Al-Qaeda.

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 05 Jan 2010 13:59

Massive dickburn in Pakisatan over Gen. Kapoor's statement. Was watching Dawn News continually over the past few days... Heavy commentary on it. One programme "InFocus" dedicated an hour or so to the issue - with talking duds Hoodbhoy, Maria Sultan (someone should tell the woman that unibrows went out of fashion just after the Neanderthals) and Talat Masood going on and on about it - with Retd. Gen. Dipanker Banerjee from the Indian side trying to hold the fort... Then FM Shaheed Qureshi - a smug pompous prat if ever there was one - was shown saying that Gen. Kapoor's statement was "absurd and irresponsible"... Yup, undies severely twisted in the land of the pure.

BTW, those who don't know Urdu/Hindi should watch the Dawn News Channel. Very useful immersion into RAPE thinking/way of life/approach to various things - and a humongous promotion of TFTA values. I think it is Free to Air so those with access to Hotbird/Nilesat channels should get it...

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 05 Jan 2010 14:52

^^^ I saw that episode too last night.This Maria Sultan will make a nice khuspoo in Benis.

What she said about going from defensive offensive to offensive offensive regarding their nuke strategy. Talat Masood and Hoodboy had some sanity. Hoodboy called the 26/11 perpetrators as criminals and called the govt the prosecute them , not to set them loose. Masood talked about the lax judicial system both sides of the border .He said about the Indian system that despite having so many evidences against Kasab, GoI has still not prosecuted him. So it's insane of India to assume Pakistan will prosecute so many of them quickly without proper evidence. from pakistan to Australia, Goi is its own enemy.

sum · Post by **sum** » 05 Jan 2010 14:55

He said about the Indian system that despite having so many evidences against Kasab, GoI has still not prosecuted him. So it's insane of India to assume Pakistan will prosecute so many of them quickly without proper evidence.

This is one stick with which GoI can be beaten over and over again..and the worst part is its self inflicted.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 15:32

Benazir Bhutto International Boxing Tournament and Tablighis at work

India has sent three kufr boxers there. Let's see what happens to them.

Six boxers of Central Africa have decided to embrace Islam after they were greatly struck by the behaviour of the Muslims during their stay here.

The spokesman of the Pakistan Boxing Federati {What will they say about the 'more pious' who are relentlessly attacking the 'less pious' every single day in Pakistan ? So, whom are they going to join with ?} on (PBF) said on Monday that these boxers will be recited Kalma by mufti Naeem during a special gathering here at a local hotel at 2:00pm on Tuesday (today).

It is pertinent to mention here that Central Africa have sent seven-member team to Pakistan to feature in the Shaheed Benazir Bhutto International Boxing tournament and the team’s manager/coach is already a Muslim. {AoA}

A PBF official said that they are very much impressed the way they are being treated here during the tournament as well as they are captivated and struck by the behaviour of the Muslims in routine life. The vice-president of the PBF Iqbal Hussain told ‘The News’ that the chairman of the football federation of the Central African Republic is also willing to enter into the fold of Muslim Umma. {AoA}

“He has shown his willingness to embrace Islam during an interview with a TV channel and it is expected that he will also leave Christianity and enter into Islam,” the PBF official said. He said that it is a great news and great achievement of the boxing tournament {AoA} being held here.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 15:51

durgesh wrote:Masood talked about the lax judicial system both sides of the border .He said about the Indian system that despite having so many evidences against Kasab, GoI has still not prosecuted him. So it's insane of India to assume Pakistan will prosecute so many of them quickly without proper evidence.

Talat Masood is way off the mark and deliberately too. He is exhibiting typical Pakiness by being clever-by-half. He is linking the lax judicial system in India with the trial of Kasab. The trial of Kasab is not taking place in a regular court but in a special court dedicated for that purpose. The Indian investigative agencies and prosecutors have gone through the entire complex web as best as they can (in spite of total non-cooperation from Pakistan where the entire scheme was conceived, planned, funded, and manned). No doubt there have been some loose ends (especially Headley), but they do not materially alter the proceedings against Kasab per se. India is following the due processes of law lest it be accused of rushing through the proceedings and denying the accused his fair opportunity to defend himself.

The biggest difference is that the Indian court, prosecution and defence have been at it every single day since the court was constituted. Nobody can accuse them of resorting to delaying tactics for any adjournments were genuine and warranted. On the other hand, Pakistani investigators have done very minimal work in exposing the crime, have constantly demanded evidence from India for even events that took place on their soil, and when the players and masterminds live in their own country. They are still living in a denial mode.

Look here for the chronology of delays in their court to understand what trivial reasons have been adduced to each one of them. And, this is in a fast-track Anti Terrorism Court.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 16:55

Scuffles as transport fares are steeply raised.
Lahore High Court halts hikes in transport fares

Pakistan has to face tough IMF conditions. It has already raised electricity charges by about 18% in the last six months and there remains another hike of 8% or so. These are steep hikes. Taxes will have to be collected rigorously. Subsidies will have to go. Next six months will inflict a lot of pain on the common folk terrorists of Pakistan. It will be interesting to see the tussle. The courts cannot interfere in routine administrative affairs. This is why, Nawaz Sharif is in no hurry to dislodge PPP. Zardari may go and yet PPP wil survive because who wants to shoulder the heavy cross while sitting in the opposition will not only give PML-N a free hand to criticize every move of GoP irresponsibly and also make enough money (though not as much if they were in power).

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jan 2010 17:43

arun wrote: {Snipped} ......................

Boxers to enter Islam

{Snipped}........................

Read it all:

The News

Dawn’s version of the story which includes an interview with the Coach of the Central African Republic’s boxing team.

One theory doing the rounds is that the garlanding of boxers with garlands of returning pilgrims from Saudi Arabia may have had something to do with the proposed conversion to Islam by the boxers from the Central African Republic.

Six visiting Central African boxers to embrace Islam

Anyway the stellar tableeghi effort of the Pakistan Boxing Federation should reduce some of the takleef for this:

PBF mismanagement spoils boxing tournament

Wrapping oneself tightly in the Islamic piety seems to be one tactic for Pakistani sport managers to reduce takleef as was the case with the Pakistan hockey team coach who was loudly trumpeting the fact that attending early morning Fajr prayers was mandatory for players:

No parties, just prayers in Salta: Shahid

arun · Post by **arun** » 05 Jan 2010 17:45

For an Islamic Republic, Pakistan certainly has very many permutations and combinations of murderous Muslim on Muslim violence induced by differing interpretations of Islam.

I find it truly amazing that Pakistan which proclaims itself as being a homeland for South Asia’s Muslim’s and an Islamic Republic to boot regularly see’s one set of Muslim’s kill another set of Muslim’s for differences in interpretations of the very same Muslim religion that both share.

So is this killing of a Muslim Cleric in Karachi Sunni on Sunni intra-sectarian violence with the Barelvi’s squaring off against the Deobandi’s or is this killing a case of Shia on Sunni sectarian violence

:

Target killing claims four more lives in Karachi

KARACHI: At least four more persons gunned down in different incidents of target killing amid the meeting on target killing chaired by Federal Interior Minister, Rehman Malik here in Karachi on Monday.

According to details, some unknown armed men gunned down the renowned religious cleric and leader of Jamaat Ahl-e-Sunnat, Maulana Sayed Amir Hussain Shah Sherazi outside the mosque in Quaidabad Qadazafi town.

It is reported that target killing incident took at early in the morning when Maulana Sayed Amir Hussain Shah Sherazi was going to offer his Fajar Prayer. But some unknown assailants opened indiscriminate firing at him. He was rushed to Jinnah Hospital but succumbed to injuries. The firing incident has created unrest in the city. riot

Maulana Sayed Amir Hussain Shah Sherazi was among the renowned religious clerics of Pakistan and he had played magnificent role in construction of Madrassah-e-Ghousia in Karachi.

The deceased is survived by four children Syed Abdul Ghaffar Shah, Syed Abdul Qadir Shah, Syed Hafiz Shah and Syed Muzaffar Shah.

Soon after the news about the incident, Amir Jamaat-e-Ahle Sunat Sindh, Maulana Akram Saeedi, Hajji Hanif Tayyub, Leader of Sunni Tehrik, Arif Qadari and other religious leaders reached in the hospital.

Uleam-e-Ahle Sunnat told that Maulana Sayed Amir Hussain Shah Sherazi was not provided with any kind of security or police. Local police reported that it is the incident of target killing. …………………..

Online, Pkistan

JE Menon · Post by **JE Menon** » 05 Jan 2010 17:53

Damn there's so much of this tit-for-tat going on that one can no longer make a call on who's killing whom for what!!!

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 05 Jan 2010 18:11

Is there any thing that pakistanis do well?

They hold a boxing tournament, I am sure Pakistan does not produce even one boxer of international repute, but these phuckers will spend time to do dharam parivartan on the poor malnourished africans.

Man these guys are so lost! Every day they reach new depths of bigotry. They are fooling themselves, and will continue to do so until they have sunk beneath.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 18:39

arun wrote:So is this killing of a Muslim Cleric in Karachi Sunni on Sunni intra-sectarian violence with the Barelvi’s squaring off against the Deobandi’s or is this killing a case of Shia on Sunni sectarian violence

The dead guy is a Berelvi cleric, a fair game for the AQAM. Remember that AQAM includes SSP, JeM & HuJI.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 05 Jan 2010 18:48

Iranian ambassador mocks at Pakistanis and they aren't even aware of that !

Iranian Ambassador to Pakistan, Aqai Mashaallah Shakri has said that nations are recognised by the languages they speak . . . Persian and Urdu are also deeply interconnected since long. National language is a symbol of a nation, therefore it should keep on growing all the time, he said

Urdu is not from Pakistan. It is an Indian language of the mohajirs that was forcibly thrust on the areas that did not speak that language. I hope Pakistanis are aware of what the great poet Ghalib said, comparing Persian and Urdu. "For all the colourful images, see my Persian verse, skip my bland Urdu verse !"