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An excellent write-up summarizing the Bengal politics:
The Revenge of the Proletariat
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp ... evenge.asp
The Revenge of the Proletariat
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp ... evenge.asp
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Suzie meeting Naxal Families. It's good that my BP is on the low side
http://cbcnn.blogspot.com/2009/11/pic-o ... es-of.html
http://cbcnn.blogspot.com/2009/11/pic-o ... es-of.html
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^^eh w/e, her writing is pathetic and nobody seems to take her seriously anyway. Naxalites are the last major spark of leftism in India and she'll die in agony seeing it washed away...but then again theres always the next best thing.... "hindutva" types infiltrating the armed services, the threat of India's nuclear program to the rest of the world, Indo-Pak reconciliation (w/e the hell that means), India's industrial growth killing polar bears, Brahmanical tyrrany, blah blah...Turning some of those themes into comics could perhaps be more entertaining lol.
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Anti-Maoist operations to begin from Maharashtra, Chhattisgarh

Why are officials declaring all the plans and the timeframes ??Central paramilitary forces have taken up positions to begin the offensive against Maoist guerrillas in Maharashtra and Chhattisgarh in the first half of December, senior officers here say.
Asked about the launch of offensive operations, the officer said: "It will not be launched nationwide. In first half of December we would be covering Maharashtra and Chhattisgarh."
"After the setting up of a government in Jharkhand, which is presently undergoing elections, we will take up operations there," he said, adding that no timeline had been set for commencing operations in the state.
Senior officials confided to IANS that it will not be before March when the security forces will launch their operations in all the Maoist-affected states.

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One teacher killed by suspected Maoists
November 26, 2009
Suspected Maoists shot at a school teacher and a member of the non-teaching staff of a school at Baghmundi in West Bengal’s Purulia district on Thursday, killing the teacher and critically injuring the other person.
The victims, Subimal Mahato and Shankar laya, were returning home from Ranga High School on a motorcycle when they were accosted by a group of unidentified miscreant who fired at them.
The district’s additional superintendent of police, C. Sudhakar, told the Hindu over telephone from Purulia that while Mr. Mahato died on the spot, Mr. Laya was admitted to the Purulia District Hospital with serious bullet injury and later shifted to Ranchi when his condition turned critical.
“The case is under investigation. Though we are probing every other possibility, involvement of the Maoists is not ruled out,” Mr. Sudhakar said.
The area is located near the Ayodhya Hill, which is believed to be a strong base of the Maoists in the region.
First time: Top Maoist faces bared
Bibhas Bhattacharyya and Snigdhendu Bhattacharya , Hindustan Times
Kolkata, November 28, 2009
They are the shadowy men who sit on the politburo of the CPI (Maoists), the rebels’ highest decision-making body. Till recently, no one outside their immediate circles knew what they looked like.
Hindustan Times brings you their photographs — the first time any media organisation has managed to get hold of them.
The Centre has reportedly finalised a hit list on which these eight figure. While five of the 13 politburo members — Pramod Misra, Malla Raji Raddi, Ashu-tosh Tudu, Amitabha Bagchi and Kobad Ghandy — were arrested, these eight have proved elusive.
“Even if our movement faces temporary setbacks, it can be remobilised if the central leadership remains intact,” politburo member Kishenji told HT.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has dubbed the Maoists, who wield influence in about 200 of India’s 626 districts, the biggest internal security challenge facing India.
Some of these photographs were clicked in the 1980s. “So these men could look different now, but we can simulate what they look like now and also what they may look like in disguise,” a senior intelligence officer said.

November 26, 2009
Suspected Maoists shot at a school teacher and a member of the non-teaching staff of a school at Baghmundi in West Bengal’s Purulia district on Thursday, killing the teacher and critically injuring the other person.
The victims, Subimal Mahato and Shankar laya, were returning home from Ranga High School on a motorcycle when they were accosted by a group of unidentified miscreant who fired at them.
The district’s additional superintendent of police, C. Sudhakar, told the Hindu over telephone from Purulia that while Mr. Mahato died on the spot, Mr. Laya was admitted to the Purulia District Hospital with serious bullet injury and later shifted to Ranchi when his condition turned critical.
“The case is under investigation. Though we are probing every other possibility, involvement of the Maoists is not ruled out,” Mr. Sudhakar said.
The area is located near the Ayodhya Hill, which is believed to be a strong base of the Maoists in the region.
First time: Top Maoist faces bared
Bibhas Bhattacharyya and Snigdhendu Bhattacharya , Hindustan Times
Kolkata, November 28, 2009
They are the shadowy men who sit on the politburo of the CPI (Maoists), the rebels’ highest decision-making body. Till recently, no one outside their immediate circles knew what they looked like.
Hindustan Times brings you their photographs — the first time any media organisation has managed to get hold of them.
The Centre has reportedly finalised a hit list on which these eight figure. While five of the 13 politburo members — Pramod Misra, Malla Raji Raddi, Ashu-tosh Tudu, Amitabha Bagchi and Kobad Ghandy — were arrested, these eight have proved elusive.
“Even if our movement faces temporary setbacks, it can be remobilised if the central leadership remains intact,” politburo member Kishenji told HT.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has dubbed the Maoists, who wield influence in about 200 of India’s 626 districts, the biggest internal security challenge facing India.
Some of these photographs were clicked in the 1980s. “So these men could look different now, but we can simulate what they look like now and also what they may look like in disguise,” a senior intelligence officer said.

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Today there are distrobenses in Telangana region because TRS once again going for agitation on Telangana State. For a long time this demand is also supported by Naxals.
Why they are interested in a saparate state other then the fact they want to dominate the same like they tried in Chatisgarh and Jharkhand. Telangana being the place they had (not much now) a strong presence for decades they may feel that a saparate administrative unit will give them better controlling chance on the area than a undivided Andra Pradesh which has large areas on which they have no control or even presence.
Can any guru's give views on this matter.
Why they are interested in a saparate state other then the fact they want to dominate the same like they tried in Chatisgarh and Jharkhand. Telangana being the place they had (not much now) a strong presence for decades they may feel that a saparate administrative unit will give them better controlling chance on the area than a undivided Andra Pradesh which has large areas on which they have no control or even presence.
Can any guru's give views on this matter.
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Top naxal among two killed in Andhra Pradesh
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article58932.ecePolice suspect that one of the slain was Bhaskar, secretary of the Adilabad district committee of the Maoists.
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http://in.news.yahoo.com/139/20091204/8 ... -hunt.htmlIndia launches 'Operation Green Hunt' against Maoists
Bastar (Chhattisgarh), Dec 4 (ANI): India has launched a major offensive codenamed 'Operation Green Hunt' against Maoist rebels here on Thursday.
The assault "Green Hunt" was launched against insurgents in Chhattisgarh-the epicentre of violence between Maoist fighters, security forces and pro-government militias since 2005.
Officials said there was least resistance from some of the Maoist strongholds, which could be a ploy.
"We are handling the 'Operation Green Hunt' in a more decisive way. And as on today the operation is on in districts like Bijapur and Dantewada. According to the information that we have, the police are not facing any resistance in the interior areas of the Maoist strongholds. It maybe an operational tactics of Maoists; we are still discussing this issue with our officers," said S R P Killuri, Deputy Inspector General (Police).
Thousands have been killed during the Maoist insurgency, which began in the late 1960s, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has described the Maoist threat one of the gravest homegrown threats to India's internal security.
The rebels claim they are fighting for the rights of poor farmers and landless labourers. (ANI)
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http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/12 ... .html?_r=1
In the last major state push, Chhattisgarh backed an anti-Naxal militia called the Salwa Judum, which was accused of atrocities against tribals -- indigenous people at the bottom of India's rigid social ladder. The militia has since been reined in.
''The only way that this can be addressed is through peace talks,'' said Nandini Sundar, a member of the Citizens Initiative for Peace in New Delhi. ''It has to be addressed by talking about the basic issues that concern people, like malnutrition. You can't address it by sending in the paramilitary -- that's just going to help the Maoists grow.''![]()
Officials say the rebels also are increasingly turning to drug sales to finance their operations, indicating a higher level of organization. Police, acting on a tip, recently seized six tons of marijuana hidden under a layer of tumeric and onions in two trucks in the small town of Keshkal. The green bags stuffed with marijuana leaves were piled on the roof of a two-story police station, next to officers sleeping on mats and undershirts strung up to dry.
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^^^ the first post of this thread by rudradev.
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 27#p463427
http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewto ... 27#p463427
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No one seems to be interested in the distrubenses in Telangana here. This movment has been supported for a long time by naxals. Do they want to have one move state like Jharkhand where their power runs unopposed.
What will be security implications of a saparate Telangana State now. Let us not forget Telangana for decades the main base of naxals even before they are called as naxals.
What will be security implications of a saparate Telangana State now. Let us not forget Telangana for decades the main base of naxals even before they are called as naxals.
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I am quite concerned about this development about Telegana. I raised the issue in the "National Agenda" thread. But the political game is already perhaps played out. Not much can be done now. The whole identity politics game has gone forward far beyond usual electoral politics. Andhra is a "field" where several forces are contesting for dominance and trying out tactics. Depending on which tactics succeeds in Andhra and WB the larger national game will be played out.
It is better to model, EJ'ism, Naxalism, regular regional-party-syndrome, "bhumiputra radicals", and "national party" - all as tactical weapons of the same force. Just different rhetoric to captivate and infiltrate and mobilize different expectations and grievances.
It is better to model, EJ'ism, Naxalism, regular regional-party-syndrome, "bhumiputra radicals", and "national party" - all as tactical weapons of the same force. Just different rhetoric to captivate and infiltrate and mobilize different expectations and grievances.
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Maoists put fire to Deer Park in W.Bengal
Eenadu news 12/21.
If I were PM of India, I would have publicly executed everyone involved in this incident.

Eenadu news 12/21.
If I were PM of India, I would have publicly executed everyone involved in this incident.
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Bombed and tormented by Bengal’s curses, child does what adults won’t
What kind of humans are these scums if they attack a drawing competition by kids?? And the WB political parties are no better, looking after their own dead activists than tending to the suffering people?? jeez, do they really have no heart?Habra (North 24-Parganas), Dec. 21: Priyanka Go-ldar, 9, took a bomb shrapnel in the shoulder in Habra yesterday when gunmen attacked a drawing contest-cum-blood donation camp, killing a Trinamul worker and a Congress activist.
But the state’s peddlers of political violence weren’t the only people to have made her suffer since yesterday afternoon.
The healthcare system too did — having made her wait seven hours for admission yesterday, a Habra hospital today said it had neither the equipment to pinpoint the splinter in her right shoulder, nor the surgeon to operate on her.
The political parties too did — today’s Trinamul-backed Congress bandh meant she could not be taken to Calcutta’s RG Kar Medical College Hospital for what could be urgent surgery to save a nerve or blood vessel.
No politician had the time to arrange transport for her despite requests — they were occupied with transporting the bodies of the slain activists from a Barasat hospital after post-mortem.
Priyanka, though, had had the heart to think about others even in the traumatic moment when the shrapnel stung her. Hit on the right shoulder and running in panic, she had stopped to pick up a three-year-old, a fellow drawing contestant, with her left arm.
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Bengal has been brutalized for a very long time. But even then the "Naxalite-Yuva-Congress" years of Latin-American style terror-counterterror played out on innocents and involved - without discrimination (mid 60's to mid 70's) was the watershed that changed the whole social psyche. The society was brutalized to the n-th degree. Nothing has been the same afterwards.
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Rio Tinto is now active in our dear country along the value chain - mining to some elements of processing (diamond polishing). Below is a fragment of their illustrious background
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy- ... php?page=1
(MOST EVIL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD)
RIO TINTO
- Complicity in or direct violations of environmental, labor and human rights in Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Namibia, Madagascar, the United States and Australia, among others.
Including:
- Eviction of the local small scale miners in the Kelian gold mine in Borneo. The families were displaced to shanty towns. Followed up in the area with a culture of sexual harassment and rape centered around the company. An independent inquiry determined that victims of sexual abuse had been threatened with dismissal if they did not cooperate or were promised a job or money in return for sex. Rio Tinto didn't inform their shareholders of this finding. (here) and (here)
- In the 70s supported the apartheid government of South Africa through uranium mining operation in Namibia that the UN called 'virtual slave labour under brutal conditions'. These operations, by admission of the company chairman maintained a 'private army' for the purposes of suppressing civil or labour unrest. (here) Keeping large gun happy security forces that are accused of everything between intimidation and outright targetted murder of opposition leaders in communities near Rio Tinto concerns is a practice the company still maintains today.(here)
- Their attempt at greenwashing includes both the typical aesthtic use of landscapes that they are actually in the process of despoiling and also the coining of the oxymoron 'sustainable mining'. (here)
- Under their subsidiary 'Bougainville Copper ltd', through pollution (they dumped the toxic tailings from their mine directly into the main river) and disregard for the local community whilst giving significant amounts of money to the central government they were instrumental in bringing about a full secessionary war in Bougainville in Papua New Guinea. (here) and (here) The area has been completely destabilised for around 40 years now.
The court case still hasn't been resolved (I believe) even though it has been going on since 2000. From the case:
Both Rio and PNG made enormous profits from the mine and were anxious for it to operate, notwithstanding the resistance of the island's people. The blockade prevented medicine, clothing and other essential items from reaching the people of Bougainville. Hospitals were forced to close, women died needlessly in childbirth and young children died from easily preventable diseases. Rio's top manager on Bougainville encouraged continuation of the blockade for the purpose of 'starving the ********' out. This blockade directly caused the deaths of at least 10,000 people between 1990 and 1997. According to the Red Cross, the blockade killed more than 2,000 children in its first two years of operation. By the time the war ended in 1999, 10% of the population of Bougainville, approximately 15,000 civilians, were killed.
- Oh and last year in one of the most successful years ever for the mining industry as a whole Rio Tinto's earnings were a record US$7,443,000,000.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy- ... php?page=1
(MOST EVIL COMPANIES IN THE WORLD)
RIO TINTO
- Complicity in or direct violations of environmental, labor and human rights in Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Philippines, Namibia, Madagascar, the United States and Australia, among others.
Including:
- Eviction of the local small scale miners in the Kelian gold mine in Borneo. The families were displaced to shanty towns. Followed up in the area with a culture of sexual harassment and rape centered around the company. An independent inquiry determined that victims of sexual abuse had been threatened with dismissal if they did not cooperate or were promised a job or money in return for sex. Rio Tinto didn't inform their shareholders of this finding. (here) and (here)
- In the 70s supported the apartheid government of South Africa through uranium mining operation in Namibia that the UN called 'virtual slave labour under brutal conditions'. These operations, by admission of the company chairman maintained a 'private army' for the purposes of suppressing civil or labour unrest. (here) Keeping large gun happy security forces that are accused of everything between intimidation and outright targetted murder of opposition leaders in communities near Rio Tinto concerns is a practice the company still maintains today.(here)
- Their attempt at greenwashing includes both the typical aesthtic use of landscapes that they are actually in the process of despoiling and also the coining of the oxymoron 'sustainable mining'. (here)
- Under their subsidiary 'Bougainville Copper ltd', through pollution (they dumped the toxic tailings from their mine directly into the main river) and disregard for the local community whilst giving significant amounts of money to the central government they were instrumental in bringing about a full secessionary war in Bougainville in Papua New Guinea. (here) and (here) The area has been completely destabilised for around 40 years now.
The court case still hasn't been resolved (I believe) even though it has been going on since 2000. From the case:
Both Rio and PNG made enormous profits from the mine and were anxious for it to operate, notwithstanding the resistance of the island's people. The blockade prevented medicine, clothing and other essential items from reaching the people of Bougainville. Hospitals were forced to close, women died needlessly in childbirth and young children died from easily preventable diseases. Rio's top manager on Bougainville encouraged continuation of the blockade for the purpose of 'starving the ********' out. This blockade directly caused the deaths of at least 10,000 people between 1990 and 1997. According to the Red Cross, the blockade killed more than 2,000 children in its first two years of operation. By the time the war ended in 1999, 10% of the population of Bougainville, approximately 15,000 civilians, were killed.
- Oh and last year in one of the most successful years ever for the mining industry as a whole Rio Tinto's earnings were a record US$7,443,000,000.
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Why oh why did we sell off our natural resources.
Note where the mine is - Bundelkhand. Reminds one of the Congo wars
Rio Tinto set to develop ''world class diamond mine'' in India news
http://www.domain-b.com/industry/Mining ... tinto.html
26 June 2008
Bhopal: Global major, Rio Tinto, has submitted mining lease applications for its Bunder diamond project in the Bundelkhand region of Madhya Pradesh, India, taking a major step in the development of what it describes could be the ''first significant world cla
Note where the mine is - Bundelkhand. Reminds one of the Congo wars
Rio Tinto set to develop ''world class diamond mine'' in India news
http://www.domain-b.com/industry/Mining ... tinto.html
26 June 2008
Bhopal: Global major, Rio Tinto, has submitted mining lease applications for its Bunder diamond project in the Bundelkhand region of Madhya Pradesh, India, taking a major step in the development of what it describes could be the ''first significant world cla
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The tribals of Chhattisgarh are upset with what they deem as the Naxalite supporting ways of Medha Patkar and Sandeep Pandey.
I find the undercurrent of support of do-gooder intellectuals for a group as violent as the Maoists, inexplicable:
I find the undercurrent of support of do-gooder intellectuals for a group as violent as the Maoists, inexplicable:
Dantewada tribals attack Medha Patkar
Suchandana Gupta, TNN, 7 January 2010, 04:08am IST
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BHOPAL: Tribals angry with activists fighting for human rights of Naxals while ignoring poor ‘adivasis’ threw rotten eggs and tomatoes at Magsaysay award winner Medha Patkar and Sandeep Pandey as they reached Dantewada town in Chhattisgarh on Wednesday.
While Medha, being a woman, did not face much humiliation, her companion Pandey was pulled down from the motorcycle and given a hiding. He was pushed around and asked why the activists had done nothing for the tribals but found cause to support Naxals………………….
Shouting slogans like ‘‘Wapas jao, wapas jao (go back)’, the tribals alleged that NGOs ‘‘support Naxals under the pretext of human rights.’’ …………………
TOI
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^^^ How do we know that Medha is not being framed?
It is very easy to stir up the mob as we can see with Jagan and co
It is very easy to stir up the mob as we can see with Jagan and co
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^ Atleast give credit to the tribals who can identify between friends and foes, the dhimmis in the urban media have lost that capability. And check this Link for more info on medha patkar and her jholawalla chums
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http://www.dailypioneer.com/228148/Dest ... engal.html
Sunday, January 10, 2010
Destroyer of West Bengal
Kanchan Gupta
Had it been Jyoti Banerjee lying unattended in a filthy general ward of SSKM Hospital in Kolkata and not Jyoti Basu in the state-of-the-art ICCU of AMRI Hospital, among the swankiest and most expensive super-speciality healthcare facilities in West Bengal, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh would not have bothered to arrange for a video-conference for top doctors at AIIMS to compare notes with those attending on the former Chief Minister of West Bengal.
Jyoti Banerjee, like most of us, spent his working life paying taxes to the Government. Jyoti Basu spent the better part of his life living off tax-payers’ money — the conscience of the veteran Marxist was never pricked by the fact that he appropriated for himself a lifestyle shunned by his comrades and denied to the people of a State whose fate he presided over for a quarter century. Kalachand Roy laid what we know today as Odisha to waste in the 16th century; Jyoti Basu was the 20th century’s Kala Pahad who led West Bengal from despair to darkness, literally and metaphorically.
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I wish Stalinist rapist goons, mass murderers, eye-gougers and beijing butt-licking traitors a very long life. Let them live long to suffer the ultimate humiliation possible - that of complete collapse of their ideology, the decimation of their paymasters overseas, or the complete surrender of their overseas paymasters to the capitalist satan, the abject and shameless begging of their own leaders in front of industrialists for investment in the states they rule in and their willingness to rape and kill their own citizens to clear land for shady Chinese tycoons.
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Former MP K S Manoj quits 'godless' CPM
http://bit.ly/8gX07l
Faithful’s parting kick to CPM
http://bit.ly/636jXE
Zacharia attacked
Express News ServiceFirst Published : 10 Jan 2010 03:34:00 AM IST
http://bit.ly/8gX07l
09 Jan 2010 08:40:14 AM IST
ALAPPUZHA: Former MP Dr K S Manoj has resigned from the CPM, reportedly over differences on the party's new document on corrective measures.
Manoj, a regular church-goer, has opposed the party's directive on avoiding religious functions.
A member of the Thumboli CPM Local Committee, Manoj was elected to the Lok Sabha from the Alappuzha constituency in 2004 on the CPM ticket, defeating V M Sudheeran of the Congress. In the last Lok Sabha election held in 2009 Manoj was defeated by K C Venugopal of the UDF.
Manoj was a doctor with the Medical College Hospital at Alappuzha and is now practising in a private hospital in New Delhi. He sent his resignation letter to the Thumboli local committee secretary on Friday. He has cited personal problems as the reason for quitting the CPM.
Faithful’s parting kick to CPM
http://bit.ly/636jXE
CPM praticising "freedom of speech"B Sreejan 10 Jan 2010 09:51:25 AM IST
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: The resignation of ex-MP K S Manoj from the CPM is likely to stir a debate on the controversial provision on religious belief in the rectification document (RD) prepared by the party when the central committee (CC) takes it up for final debate at its meeting in Kolkata in the last week of January.
The unexpected move by Manoj shocked the CPM which promptly paraded ex- MP T K Hamza and KTDC chairman Cherian Philip with arguments against Manoj. Hamza challenged Manoj to prove that there was a single line in the RD against religious belief.
Cherian Philip dubbed the resignation a political betrayal.
Despite the defence put up by the party immediately after Manoj's bombshell, the CPM state leadership will find it difficult to answer the queries he has raised. Sources in the CPM said that Manoj's case should be viewed along with A P Abdullakkutty's ouster from the party and the bitter treatment meted out to Sebastian Paul.
The three were initiated into parliamentary politics to help the CPM woo religious minorities. The demographic character of the constituencies they represented was the primary reason for picking them as candidates for the Lok Sabha elections.Person's religion is more important than his commitment to party ideology, pseudo secularism at its best
Throughout their terms in Parliament the three were allowed to pursue their religion freely. In fact, the CPM wanted them to go to church and to be catalysts to initiate discussions with religious leaders.
Even though the rectification document asks active CPM workers to refrain from religious activities, the CPM had no idea how to enforce that clause on converted Marxists such as Sebastian Paul and Manoj.
Indications are that the CPM central leadership is upset by the growing attrition rate of leaders from religious minorities in the Kerala unit. It may be recalled that the CPM CC identified the alienation of the Christian minority as a major factor in the rout faced by the party in the last Lok Sabha elections.

Zacharia attacked
Express News ServiceFirst Published : 10 Jan 2010 03:34:00 AM IST
And if newbies dont know about the past activities of DYFI click herePAYYANUR: Writer Paul Zacharia was manhandled, allegedly by a group of DYFI activists, here on Saturday evening.
He was returning after releasing a book when the group waylaid him and tried to rough him up. Zacharia had criticised the stand taken by the CPM on the reported “affair” involving Congress leader Rajmohan Unnithan. His comments are said to be the provocation for the attack. He left without waiting to file a complaint with the police.
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As usual, rely on Hindu to present the CPM version of the events.
http://www.hindu.com/2010/01/10/stories ... 330500.htm
http://www.hindu.com/2010/01/10/stories ... 330500.htm
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What people don't understand is that Christian and Muslim leaders joining the communists are deeply religious themselves. They enter the communist party only because it gives them an official and politically legitimate Hindu-hating platform from where they can safely contest Hindu beliefs as "religious obscurantism". The moment the "atheism" of commies becomes too close for comfort, they quit.Former MP K S Manoj quits 'godless' CPM
Some of these minority dudes are rabid religious fundamentalists who are merely using the cloak of secularism and leftism to punch at Hindus and other Indic faiths. The moment they have to compromise with their own beliefs to stay in the communist party, they head for the exit.
Hindu "atheist" communists of Sitaram Yechury and Jyoti Basu variety are merely useful idiots for them.
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http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20100110/87 ... nepal.html
The Stalnist rapist goons' coaching seems to have the right effect. Periodic visits to offer 'advice' has produced results...Yet another anti-India statement from their students acros the border.
The Stalnist rapist goons' coaching seems to have the right effect. Periodic visits to offer 'advice' has produced results...Yet another anti-India statement from their students acros the border.
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Well said...the mass murderers provide a forum for anti-hindu pogrom which often takes advantage of blatantly biased hindu-hating evangelist crowds, sewage drinking foul mouthed anti-hindu rowdies that profess 'rationalism' and 'self-respect' without knowing what it means...many others...if you question them you become 'fascist'sanjaychoudhry wrote:What people don't understand is that Christian and Muslim leaders joining the communists are deeply religious themselves. They enter the communist party only because it gives them an official and politically legitimate Hindu-hating platform from where they can safely contest Hindu beliefs as "religious obscurantism". The moment the "atheism" of commies becomes too close for comfort, they quit.Former MP K S Manoj quits 'godless' CPM
Some of these minority dudes are rabid religious fundamentalists who are merely using the cloak of secularism and leftism to punch at Hindus and other Indic faiths. The moment they have to compromise with their own beliefs to stay in the communist party, they head for the exit.
Hindu "atheist" communists of Sitaram Yechury and Jyoti Basu variety are merely useful idiots for them.
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In Bengal, they whole heartedly join the Durga Puja festivities and are a source of strength for many community (para) committees.They enter the communist party only because it gives them an official and politically legitimate Hindu-hating platform from where they can safely contest Hindu beliefs as "religious obscurantism"
Subash Chakravarti, a Minister and a top CPM leader openly did his obeisance at a very holy spot (Taraknath?) in Bengal and he said that it was OK to be a Hindu, Brahmin and a Communist all rolled in one!
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Posting in full:
Kishenji interview
Kishenji interview
These guys are really dangerous and should not be considered as "our misguided people"A wily fox has many exits to his lair. So also with Koteswara Rao alias Kishenji, national chief of the People’s Liberation Army and politburo member of the CPI (Maoist). Media-savvy, he often speaks to the press, but on his own terms. His call would come out of the blue and he would hang up immediately after giving his sound bite. Long phone calls, he knows, will give away his location. But in an interview with THE WEEK, Kishenji spoke at length on a wide range of issues, including Telangana, Kashmir and the northeast. Excerpts:
What is your response to the decision to form Telangana?
The demand for Telangana is very old and we support it. Though Delhi has announced its intention to form Telangana, I doubt their sincerity. Many rich and powerful Telugus have illegal land in Hyderabad and have invested millions there. There are powerful people in the UPA who are linked to these vested interests. They will create roadblocks.
But will a separate state help? Jhar-khand’s tribal leaders are as corrupt as those who ran Bihar.
Creation of Jharkhand was the first step towards fulfilling aspirations of tribals who were neglected in Bihar. It will not solve all problems, but it is the first victory. Now they will have to fight corruption within their society. It is because tribal leaders like Shibu Soren and Madhu Koda betrayed them that tribals have turned to us. But the fight for a separate state where they are masters of their destiny is the first step of revolutionary mobilisation for deprived people.
So you would also support the Gorkhaland movement?
Of course. In fact, the undivided Communist Party, the old CPI, had called for this soon after Independence. The demand first came from CPI legislator Ratanlal Brahmin, a leader of the hill people. There is a CPI resolution supporting the demand for a Gorkha state. The CPI(M) emerged from the CPI, but they are now pandering to Bengali chauvinism.
And strangely, there is no difference between [Congress leader]Pranab Mukherjee, [Trinamool Congress chief] Mamata Banerjee and [West Bengal Chief Minister] Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee. They are all trying to capitalise on the Bengali sentiment against a division. This is cheap politics. These politicians have done nothing for the people of West Bengal, but now want to divide the Nepalis and Bengalis. We want the poor on both sides to maintain their unity and foil evil designs of bourgeois politicians.
Will the Gorkhas get a separate state?
Not by going on hunger strikes and tripartite talks. These methods do not get you anywhere in India. You have to fight.
An armed fight? But Telangana came out of hunger strikes.
Telangana is still a long way off. We Maoists believe in a combination of armed struggle and mass mobilisation. After all, Telangana or Gorkhaland are not separatist demands. They want to remain in India.
But your party has also supported separatism. The CPI (Maoist) has an agreement with the People’s Liberation Army of Manipur. Your party supports the Manipuris’ right to self-determination.
That is not supporting separation! The people of the northeast and Kashmir have a right to self-determination and we wholeheartedly support their struggle for it. Theirs is a just demand and we want to tell them that the struggling poor of India are with them in their fight against the exploitative Indian state.
But self-determination only means that they can decide if they want to stay in India or become independent. We are against India imposing itself on these people who have developed independently for a long time.
Our understanding with the Revolutionary People's Front of Manipur [PLA is its military wing] is based on our recognition of Manipur’s right to self-determination and their commitment not to attack the Indian proletariat. That is the first step towards a revolutionary front of the struggling people of India and of Manipur.
ULFA attacks poor Biharis in Assam, despite your talking to them.
We unconditionally support ULFA’s struggle for self-determination in Assam. We only want them to stop attacking the Indian proletariat. We will continue to engage with ULFA on this issue.
The PLA has traditionally accepted its commitment to the Indian revolution, but ULFA has never agreed to carry that ideological baggage. They talk of building socialism on a nationalist base.
ULFA cannot ignore the revolutionary struggle of Indians and our enormous goodwill for their struggle. It has gained nothing by trusting neighbouring countries like Bhutan and Bangladesh, where puppet governments of India rule. They have betrayed ULFA under Indian pressure or when it suited them. Look how many ULFA leaders have been handed over by Bangladesh in recent weeks. ULFA cannot trust these governments. They have to trust us.
But don’t you see the tendency of many of these ethnic armed movements to get co-opted by the Indian state?
I know what you are talking about. We are not dealing with movements which have made deals with India or are ready to do so. ULFA is still fighting, despite many reverses. ULFA chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa was handed over to India, but Home Secretary G.K. Pillai lied that he had surrendered. Typical Indian divide-and-rule policy. They want Rajkhowa and ULFA’s military chief Paresh Barua to fight.
Have you ever discussed these issues with Barua? He is the one who orders attacks on Biharis in Assam, isn’t he?
We have engaged with him. I met him under the party name of Pradip, that is my identity for him. He does not know me as Koteswara Rao or Kishenji. I wish to speak to him again. I sincerely want ULFA, the PLA and other such groups fighting for separate homelands or for self-determination to fight the exploitative Indian state alongside us.
We do not want to impose the model of our struggle on them, as they know how to fight best under their own circumstances. But we want them to attack the enemies of the people, and not the poor, wherever they come from.
Are you not being ambitious? The Burmese Communist Party tried to rope in ethnic separatist movements like the Kachins and Karens into their fold but failed because the Wa and Kokang tribes, who formed the majority of their armed soldiers, deserted.
We do not want to bring any of these self-determination struggles into our fold. We do not want to absorb them. We respect the right to self-determination. But they must realise we have a common enemy—the oppressive government in Delhi. They cannot fight Delhi alone.
So you are supporting them for tactical reasons?
Not at all. We want them to be part of a broad front so that we can co-ordinate our struggles. But this should be based on sound politics, not mere tactics. So we have come out in political support for the movements of self-determination. We now want to unite their struggles with the nationality movements. This is the next stage of the Indian revolution.
You support Kashmir’s right of self-determination?
We do. But only if it is a genuine struggle. If Kashmir wants independence, so be it. But that should cover the whole of Kashmir. We have no patience for religious radicalism. If the Taliban attacks India, we will be the first to fight them. But we cannot deny Kashmir’s aspirations for self-determination. That is a secular aspiration focused on Kashmiriyat, not a Taliban-style religious fanaticism.
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Why is it so surprising to find "Hindu" "forward castes" or other faith-fundamentalists to be found in communist leadership? It is most natural to find "Hindu" forward-castes dominating communist leadership than any other.
Take a count of the "caste" and class representation of the Communist hierarchy. As you go up the "committees", right upto CC and PB, the proportion of "forward castes" increase dramatically - as will be evident for a mere analysis of the surnames. This remains true not only of parliamentary communists but also the "non-parliamentarians".
The "forward caste" leadership in fact fits the stereotypes of extreme arrogance, false sense of superiority and right to command, sense of detachment from and superiority to the "commons", and murderous intrigue where challenge to ego's are perceived - typically attributed to "upper caste elite" by the critics of "casteism" - much more within the "party" than outside in the general population.
This is quite simple to understand. The extreme examples of "forward caste Hindus" are those who are probably born into family/clan ambience which teaches them to believe in a superiority-by-birth. This makes them detached from and detest the common "Hindu" as inferior by birth and destiny. Such inferior population cannot be culturally identified with. Such inferior population cannot be relied upon for enhancement of "personal power". Their sense of detachment from the majority of their own birth cultural-society makes them feel deeply vulnerable and insecure - leading to a paranoid hunger for personal power and control and command over others and the masses. The commons and their simpler affiliation to their culture - are detetested deeply feared at the same time. Thus grows a fondness and admiration for powers and ideologies that appear to have defeated these "inferior commons".
The "Bengali upper caste Hindu" rejected the "cultural nationalism" that had initially given birth to and driven the freeddom struggle - because in their eyes it had failed to mobilize the "Muslim Bengali" in their bid for "personal power". To such a disillusioned group - Marxism was an ideology of hope. Something that they hoped to use to bring into the fold - even the Muslim. Moreover this ideology was a "foreign" one - and therefore hopefully stronger than indigenous ones.
Take a count of the "caste" and class representation of the Communist hierarchy. As you go up the "committees", right upto CC and PB, the proportion of "forward castes" increase dramatically - as will be evident for a mere analysis of the surnames. This remains true not only of parliamentary communists but also the "non-parliamentarians".
The "forward caste" leadership in fact fits the stereotypes of extreme arrogance, false sense of superiority and right to command, sense of detachment from and superiority to the "commons", and murderous intrigue where challenge to ego's are perceived - typically attributed to "upper caste elite" by the critics of "casteism" - much more within the "party" than outside in the general population.
This is quite simple to understand. The extreme examples of "forward caste Hindus" are those who are probably born into family/clan ambience which teaches them to believe in a superiority-by-birth. This makes them detached from and detest the common "Hindu" as inferior by birth and destiny. Such inferior population cannot be culturally identified with. Such inferior population cannot be relied upon for enhancement of "personal power". Their sense of detachment from the majority of their own birth cultural-society makes them feel deeply vulnerable and insecure - leading to a paranoid hunger for personal power and control and command over others and the masses. The commons and their simpler affiliation to their culture - are detetested deeply feared at the same time. Thus grows a fondness and admiration for powers and ideologies that appear to have defeated these "inferior commons".
The "Bengali upper caste Hindu" rejected the "cultural nationalism" that had initially given birth to and driven the freeddom struggle - because in their eyes it had failed to mobilize the "Muslim Bengali" in their bid for "personal power". To such a disillusioned group - Marxism was an ideology of hope. Something that they hoped to use to bring into the fold - even the Muslim. Moreover this ideology was a "foreign" one - and therefore hopefully stronger than indigenous ones.
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One important thing people forget is that the top leadership of Naxals/Maoists are overhelmingly Telugus/Andhras and they have a solid presence in Telangana (which borders chattisgarh) and Uttar Andhra (which borders Orissa) .That is one of the reasons why they came out strongly in support of seperate states for both Telangana and Uttar Andhra. It is one thing we need to analyse. What is the reason that CPI(Maoists) is dominated by Telugus/Andhras ?
Another interesting observation. I am making generalisations just to understand the issue at hand and no way intend to accuse whole communities .
The Punjabis are more susceptible to religious (Khalistani) and language chuvanism (Punjabi).
The Tamils are more susceptible to language chuvanism (Tamil Ealem).
The Telugus are more susceptibe to Naxalism.(CPI Maoists)
The Bengalis are more susceptible to Marxism(CPIM)
The Keralities are more susceptible to Marxism. (cpim)
The Assamese are more susceptible to Ethenic chuvanism (ULFA)
etc etc.
Is there a pattern which can studied here ?
Another interesting observation. I am making generalisations just to understand the issue at hand and no way intend to accuse whole communities .
The Punjabis are more susceptible to religious (Khalistani) and language chuvanism (Punjabi).
The Tamils are more susceptible to language chuvanism (Tamil Ealem).
The Telugus are more susceptibe to Naxalism.(CPI Maoists)
The Bengalis are more susceptible to Marxism(CPIM)
The Keralities are more susceptible to Marxism. (cpim)
The Assamese are more susceptible to Ethenic chuvanism (ULFA)
etc etc.
Is there a pattern which can studied here ?
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All these are social manipulation using identities. Colonial days set the stage for ethnic/caste identities and this has morphed into state and language identities in the last 60 years.Rony wrote:
Another interesting observation. I am making generalisations just to understand the issue at hand and no way intend to accuse whole communities .
The Punjabis are more susceptible to religious (Khalistani) and language chuvanism (Punjabi).
The Tamils are more susceptible to language chuvanism (Tamil Ealem).
The Telugus are more susceptibe to Naxalism.(CPI Maoists)
The Bengalis are more susceptible to Marxism(CPIM)
The Keralities are more susceptible to Marxism. (cpim)
The Assamese are more susceptible to Ethenic chuvanism (ULFA)
etc etc.
Is there a pattern which can studied here ?
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^^^ Your generalizations do not make sense because a lot of the identities you have ref. to are created identites.
It has little to do with nature of identiy and more to do with resources, distribution of wealth and history of a particular region.
Massive poverty plus abundant resources plus enough international attention probably drove naxalism in the AP area. Pls remember that the word naxal comes from Naxalbari in Bengal.
The so called chauvanism in present day Punjab was clearly externally instigated and did not sustain.
It has little to do with nature of identiy and more to do with resources, distribution of wealth and history of a particular region.
Massive poverty plus abundant resources plus enough international attention probably drove naxalism in the AP area. Pls remember that the word naxal comes from Naxalbari in Bengal.
The so called chauvanism in present day Punjab was clearly externally instigated and did not sustain.
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While Indians are worried about the anti-Indian statements of Maoists in Nepal, our Marxist 'friends' are worried about Prachanda's health...
http://www.hindu.com/2010/01/11/stories ... 581400.htm
http://www.hindu.com/2010/01/11/stories ... 581400.htm
Look at how the original remarks themselves have been cleverly blacked out except quoting some 'reports' in third person...as if they serve no purpose other than to provide a context to his 'explanation'KATHMANDU: Maoist Chairman Pushpa Kamal Dahal ‘Prachanda’ has reportedly said his life is in danger as he has been speaking against India these days.
According to reports, Mr. Dahal said in a programme on Saturday that King Birendra Shah and CPN-UML leader Madan Bhandari were killed “because they were nationalists” and that they had chosen not to be close with India. He said his fate could be the same.
Look at how eager the Maoist friends in India are to brush the remarks under carpet, dilute his remarks and allow him to escape with vague clarifications...and see how cleverly the title of the report has been framed...Sunday’s newspapers carried the news, but Mr. Dahal later clarified that his remarks were distorted and that he did not mean it that way.
“I just wanted to raise an issue that may be Birendra was killed because he wanted to import arms from China, and Bhandari maybe because he took the side of protecting national sovereignty,” Mr. Dahal said.
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http://www.hindu.com/2010/01/14/stories ... 851400.htm
Another JP Narayan in making? Bleed the coffers die before conking off..strange these Stalinists oppose privatisation of 'essentail services' and talk big about public sector but when one of them falls sick it is either 5 star private hospital or a trip to their ideological "motherlands"..perhaps all this talk of public is just for the stupid proletariat, not the scotch swilling bhadralok...
Wonder who is paying the bills - CPM or GOWB? Might want to apply for reimbursement from CPC
Another JP Narayan in making? Bleed the coffers die before conking off..strange these Stalinists oppose privatisation of 'essentail services' and talk big about public sector but when one of them falls sick it is either 5 star private hospital or a trip to their ideological "motherlands"..perhaps all this talk of public is just for the stupid proletariat, not the scotch swilling bhadralok...
Wonder who is paying the bills - CPM or GOWB? Might want to apply for reimbursement from CPC
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Maoists develop tech to clone AK series rifles

Security agencies came across the Maoists’ innovative skills last week when a CRPF team busted an arms manufacturing unit in forests close to Gobardaha village in Chatra district in Jharkhand and recovered a number of ‘duplicate’ AK-47 and AK-57 rifles of “high standard”.
The preliminary examination of weapons seized from the arms manufacturing unit showed that the quality of the rifles was as good as original AK series rifles. Five improvised explosive devices (IEDs) weighing 15 kg each were also seized during the operation, launched on the basis of specific intelligence input.
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pgbhat wrote:Maoists develop tech to clone AK series rifles
Security agencies came across the Maoists’ innovative skills last week when a CRPF team busted an arms manufacturing unit in forests close to Gobardaha village in Chatra district in Jharkhand and recovered a number of ‘duplicate’ AK-47 and AK-57 rifles of “high standard”.
