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^^^
On a lot of fronts (finance, shipbuilding, nuclear energy, science etc), they have a "superior" industry that helps them keep their H&D in tact, with respect to India.

When it comes to space, they have almost no worthwhile program of their own. It is possibly the first area where they have no chance of catching up (by themselves) with the former colony and that is hard to swallow for somebody who consistently punches above their weight. :((

They do contribute considerably to ESA, but media never talks about a British rocket going into space etc.
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"On a lot of fronts (finance, shipbuilding, nuclear energy, science etc), they have a "superior" industry that helps them keep their H&D in tact, with respect to India."

True, but apart from space, there are probably several areas where India is ahead,or the potential to be ahead/ further ahead is very large- IT, textiles, automobiles, pharmaceuticals, agriculture, animation, BPO,
alternative energy(wind power etc) , Bollywood, radio astronomy, coffee and tea, railways and equipment, telecommunications etc. The obsession with space is probably because the industry is both high tech and glamorous.
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The British nuclear industry is dead.
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Let's shove this in their faces.....this probably is one major cause of @$$ burn!!! like really hot tikka masala

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beagle_2
Beagle 2 was an unsuccessful British landing spacecraft that formed part of the European Space Agency's 2003 Mars Express mission. It is not known for certain whether the lander reached the Martian surface
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Rony wrote:For some reason , the brits are obsessed with Indian space programme and link it to their "aid" !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks0159BSYW8
There is a huge ego problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB_irje0vPc
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surinder wrote:Jammy & Kashmir was an artificial construct, it was given to Gulab Singh Dogra on an apparent sale of 75 Lakhs. That sale was a pretense; it was an award to Gulab Singh for his services to the British & his treasons to his own nation.
Another example of scoring self-goals by Indians, by thoughtlessly reproducing paki/western propaganda. Gulab Singh was a descendant of the Rajas of Jammu (Jamwal Rajputs) whose soldiers had conquered and consolidated Jammu, Ladakh, and Baltistan before the British came on the scene. The Dogras defeated a Chinese army that invaded Ladakh and forced them to sign the Treaty of Chushul in 1842, which marks the boundary between Ladakh and Tibet.

There was no love lost between the Dogra rulers and the British, particularly a large section of officials who believed that the Kashmir valley should have been taken by the British. Maharaja Pratap Singh was falsely accused in a conspiracy case, and though that case was dismissed, the British took the opportunity of tightening their hold on J&K by creating a ruling council in 1889. It was also around this time that Urdu, the administrative language in British Punjab and elsewhere, was imposed on J&K.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 438655.cms
India, Britain set to sign nuclear deal


In an exclusive interview, Mandelson confirmed: "We are indeed working with the Indian government on closer relations in the sharing of civil nuclear technology. I hope that I will be able to sign a civil nuclear cooperation declaration with minister Sharma early this year."
Mandelson was said to be disappointed that such an agreement was not concluded during his visit to Delhi last month. According to a source at the Indian High Commission here, India objected to a non-proliferation clause in the draft submitted by the UK.
However, even if the mentioned declaration is signed next month, this cannot become operational until New Delhi changes its policy of restricting nuclear collaboration to public sector entities. Most potential British suppliers of technology for generation of nuclear energy are in the private sector.
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And the resentment and hate continues......

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic ... rt=40.html

To think that my elderly relations fought side by side with these ******** in WW2!!!!!
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Most of British aid is tied to buying useless and defective things from UK.
Sea King deal is a prime example. The entire aid by UK govt that time was tied to fact that India would buy defective Sea Kings from UK and coincidentally the amount of aid was equal to price of Sea Kings!
Needless to say they crashed and had to be grounded.
Haresh wrote:And the resentment and hate continues......

http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic ... rt=40.html

To think that my elderly relations fought side by side with these ******** in WW2!!!!!
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Most of British aid is tied to buying bogus and defective things from UK.

http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?208443
In the past, many shady arms deals were foisted upon the Indian armed forces by corrupt politicians and bureaucrats. For instance, in the '60s, Vijayanta tanks were bought which couldn't be taken to the battlefront because they were defective. In the '80s, the army procured supposedly new and expensive Combat Engineering Tractors, only to discover these were second-hand British army rejects. The notorious Westland helicopters, considered unfit to fly, were similarly imposed upon the IAF as part of a (political) deal between Margaret Thatcher and Rajiv Gandhi. These had to be junked.
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people please use the numerous development related threads for this discussion. this is the Indo-UK thread, not Indian toilets thread.
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I think we need to keep a watchful eye on this activity:
London, Jan 15 (PTI) UK wants to "push forward" its relationship with India in the education sector and British universities are increasingly interested in coming to the country to collaborate like "never before", Minister for Human Resource Development Kapil Sibal has said.
http://www.ptinews.com/news/469257_-UK- ... education-
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Karan Dixit wrote:I think we need to keep a watchful eye on this activity:
London, Jan 15 (PTI) UK wants to "push forward" its relationship with India in the education sector and British universities are increasingly interested in coming to the country to collaborate like "never before", Minister for Human Resource Development Kapil Sibal has said.
http://www.ptinews.com/news/469257_-UK- ... education-
should also watch the mad rush to set up similar overseas campus'es in the middle east and singapore...
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I actually thought the docu was fairly balanced but the Khalistani sympathisers in the UK (mainly young misguided kids who were probably not even alive when Jernail Bhindranwale's men were acting like pseudo-Talibanis in Punjab in the 80s) have really made a big noise about this.

London: A controversial BBC film about the Indian Army storming Golden Temple in 1984, which depicts late Sikh leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale "in a similar way to Osama Bin Laden", has provoked a furious response from many members of the community in Britain, a media report said.

A number of Sikhs have condemned the documentary, 1984: A Sikh Story, which they see as nothing but a slur on Bhindranwale, who was killed during the 'Operation Blue Star' ordered by the then Indian prime minister Indira Gandhi, the Daily Mail reported.

Since his death, Bhindranwale, the controversial leader of Sikh religious group Damdami Taksal, has remained a controversial figure in Indian history. While some view him as a martyr who was fighting for the best interests of Sikhs, others see him as an extremist.

Dr Sadhu Singh, the chairman of the Council of Sikh Temples, said many viewers were angered that "the BBC showed him (Bhindranwale) looking like bin Laden".

He said, "They used pictures of him wearing a turban and holding a gun. To someone who doesn't know what Sikhism is about, it would be very misleading. Sikhs were attacked after September 11, but Sikhs are nothing to do with bin Laden.

"Some people are very upset that the documentary also showed radio presenter Sonia Deol dancing with Hindus as if there is no problem between Hindus and Sikhs. The feeling is still there that people who were responsible for 1984 have not been brought to justice."
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_bb ... hs_1335824
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Sanitation posts moved to Infrastructure thread where a discussion of toilets was already in progress
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One could respect British criticisms of Indian luxury imports from the UK( Rolls Royce etc) or Germany(BMW), raising the issue of whether the heavy foreign exchange involved in such purchases could be better spent by the well-to-do in India, on other things. But raising the question of wastage of money on the space programme shows there's a hidden motive or objective there.
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>>One could respect British criticisms of Indian luxury imports from the UK( Rolls Royce etc) or Germany(BMW), raising the issue of whether the heavy foreign exchange involved in such purchases could be better spent by the well-to-do in India, on other things.

Only in the context of Indian criticisms of British purchases of Jaguar/Land Rover and imports from Germany (BMW/Merc/Audi), raising the issue of whether the money spent on cars by those who can afford these cars could not be spent on other things such as helping the homeless, providing a financial cushion for the newly-unemployed etc.

Otherwise, neither the British nor anybody else has any business criticising what the rich in India or anywhere else for that matter, buy or don't buy.
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Excerpt. NSA M.K.Narayanan takes a potshot at the UK:
From The Times
January 18, 2010

China tried to hack our computers, says India’s security chief M.K. Narayanan

Richard Beeston and Jeremy Page in Delhi

………………. He said that Pakistan had done nothing to dismantle militant groups since the Mumbai attack, and criticised Britain, in particular, for accepting its excuse that such groups were beyond its control. “The British are still blinkered on this,” he said. “We believe Pakistan’s policy of using terror as a policy weapon remains.”

Times Online
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Airavat wrote:
surinder wrote:Jammy & Kashmir was an artificial construct, it was given to Gulab Singh Dogra on an apparent sale of 75 Lakhs. That sale was a pretense; it was an award to Gulab Singh for his services to the British & his treasons to his own nation.
Another example of scoring self-goals by Indians, by thoughtlessly reproducing paki/western propaganda. Gulab Singh was a descendant of the Rajas of Jammu (Jamwal Rajputs) whose soldiers had conquered and consolidated Jammu, Ladakh, and Baltistan before the British came on the scene. The Dogras defeated a Chinese army that invaded Ladakh and forced them to sign the Treaty of Chushul in 1842, which marks the boundary between Ladakh and Tibet.

There was no love lost between the Dogra rulers and the British, particularly a large section of officials who believed that the Kashmir valley should have been taken by the British. Maharaja Pratap Singh was falsely accused in a conspiracy case, and though that case was dismissed, the British took the opportunity of tightening their hold on J&K by creating a ruling council in 1889. It was also around this time that Urdu, the administrative language in British Punjab and elsewhere, was imposed on J&K.
We Indians feel hurt when they see distorted histroy by Westerners, but we Indians distort our own history evern more. It is ironical. I don't wish to go into too much details, since this is not the right thread, but will briefly say the following:

+ Gulab Singh Dogra was recruited as a soldier by Ranjeet Singh. He rose through the ranks fast, as he was personally courageous in war & and a very able & competent man.

+ GSB, and two of his brothers & his nephews played a very deleterious role in the Lahore kingdom of Ranjeet Singh (more so after his death). They were at the center of some pretty nasty intrigues.

+ Gulab Singh Dogra was liked by the Maharaja, and hence was made Rajah of Jammu. Ranjeet Singh had already conquered Jammu, but installed Gulab Singh as its adminsitrator since he was pleased with him. He was not an independent ruler, but more of a governer. History books sympethetic of Dogras deliberately obfuscate this issue.

+ Gulab Singh, while he was still in Ranjeet Singh's court, had been secretly cultivating the British, and the British had been courting him because they had their eye on the Lahore Kingdom. He was in secret communication wtih them, and had been doing favors to them to prove his loyalty to them.

+ In the Anglo-Sikh wars, his inaction was a siignificant contributor to British victory. Had he acted, as he was capable of, the outcome would have been different.

+ Subsequent to the Sikh-British wars, he was the representative from the Sikh side to the negotiations for the treaty. While being an agent of one side, he got helped himself to a pretty nifty deal. If this doesn't smell like treason, then I am not sure what would.

+ The British created this pretense of a "sale" of Kashmir. That is ridiculous ideas helped them get 0.75 Crore Nanakshahi Ruppees & get whole of Kashmir under a man whose loyalty they could trust.

+ Gulab Singh Dogra had brazenly looted the treasury of Lahore. Probably that is where he got the money to pay the 75 Lakh Rs.

+ The campaigns to occupy Laddakh, Tibet were those of the Lahore Kingdom, with Gulab Singh's Jammu dominion taking a lead role. Jammu itselft was a vassal state of Lahore. They were not Gulab Singh's campaigns alone. Jammu, as I have mentioned before, had been conquered by Ranjeet Singh quite early in hiis career & Gulab Singh was a General in his army; he granted the raja-ship to Gulab Singh. History books are keen on omitting the Sikh role in the Laddakh & Tibet wars.

+ Treaty of Amritsar, of 1949, gave J&K to Gulab Singh. Even after he got awarded the whole state---conquered by Ranjeet Singh from the Afghans, & adminsitered by the Lahore Kingdom---he could not take possession of it. Even to take possession of his "purchase" he had to seek the help of his British masters.

+ He & his subsequent dynasty was to be intensely loyal to the British. They had obtained the state of J&K without winning it, or inheriting it. They had obtained it by intrique, deceit & cunningness. In 1857 mutiny, J&K ruler pledged repeated loyalty to the British, providing troops & resouces to the British. Again, J&K was a British vassal state, it being an independent state was a myth.

+ The inaction & vacillations of Hari Singh Dogra in 1947 cost us dear. He flirted with the idea of Independence for far too long. He held out hopes that he could make J&K an independent nation, right as his kingdom was being overrun by the Afghan tribes. They took 1/3 of J&K right from under his nose due to his inpeptness. So much for the myth of independent nation of J&K.

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"Only in the context of Indian criticisms of British purchases of Jaguar/Land Rover and imports from Germany (BMW/Merc/Audi), raising the issue of whether the money spent on cars by those who can afford these cars could not be spent on other things such as helping the homeless, providing a financial cushion for the newly-unemployed etc."

Absolutely. Really, there should be no commentary by the British on what the Indian rich do either. I was just remarking on how it's curious that when India does something like launching a satellite or a nuclear submarine, then out comes all the belching and gassing about wastage of money. Why don't these same British question Indian luxury imports from the UK, or ask if India is spending too much buying the Hawk trainer i.e wonder if India could buy a cheaper trainer from Russia or France, considering India's foreign exchange constraints. If the UK critics of India's space programme raised those issues, one wouldn't praise them, but at least respect their intellectual honesty.

Where the UK would have a legitimate beef with India is if the UK were suffering massive terrorist attacks emanating from Ireland or France, and India were giving both those countries huge amounts of financial and military aid. Other than that, the British should keep their mouths shut.
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>>Other than that, the British should keep their mouths shut.

What for boss? Let them talk. No need for takleef on our part. Any more than they would have if some newspaper in India said somethig similar about Britain.

I mean, seriously, did you see that self-made video of that Brit commenting on India's space programme? Despite being just a McCaulayite, even my toes curled in embarrassment for Britain. Can you imagine what a sane Brit would feel, were he to watch this with an equally sane Indian? Both would have to try to pretend that this guy was Martian or something.... :rotfl:
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Karna_A wrote:Most of British aid is tied to buying useless and defective things from UK.
Sea King deal is a prime example. The entire aid by UK govt that time was tied to fact that India would buy defective Sea Kings from UK and coincidentally the amount of aid was equal to price of Sea Kings!
Needless to say they crashed and had to be grounded.
Don't you mean the Westland (WG 30) 30 saar? :)

The Sea King is an IN operated whirly bird.

The Westland 30 was tied to british aid and was operated by Pawan Hans.
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Brit NGO's or Covert OP.
Green campaigner arrested in India on suspicion of terrorism
A Thornton Heath green campaigner has been arrested in India on suspicion of terrorism.
Andy Pag, was arrested last Tuesday in Ajmer, in the state of Rajasthan, in northern India because he used his satellite phone without permission. The 35-year-old is four months into a round-the-world trip in his bus fuelled by chip fat to highlight the benefits of using alternative fuels and campaign against global warming
http://www.yourlocalguardian.co.uk/news ... terrorism/
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SKY's Channel 4 (in a program called Gordon's Great Escape) now showing entire Kashmir as part of Pukistan!

I am beginning to feel that this is a campaign happening simultaneously on several fronts!
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^^^ Of course.
The key is "What is GOIs real stand"

This nonsense will only stop if Indians in UK threaten to boycott both the TV channel and products
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^^ I complained immediately after the show. I will urge everyone to do the same. It was bloody offensive and hurtful. I would like GoI to start publishing the map of UK - Scotland and northern Ireland because it is going to be same by 2017 via referendum. Why not to invite scottish first minister for a dinner at president's house...just prepare for future. :evil: :twisted:
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^^^ Would not compare NI and Scotland to India.
For Ireland and Scotland great atrocities were committed by England.
It is not an apples to apples comparison.
An equitable comparison would be to show Conrwall as part of France because of the french influence. That would teach em a lesson
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^^ better.
Also dont forget to complain to Ofcom too.
Here is link for both.

http://help.channel4.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/W ... LE=General


and

OFCOM

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/complain/progs/specific/
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^^^ I just did. Thanks

Scotland & NI to UK
what
Bangladesh was to Pakistan

Cornwall to UK
what J&K and states to India

:)
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surinder wrote:general anti-Dogra diatribe
We the Sandhawalias
After the death of Ranjit Singh in 1839, there was a tussle for the control of the Sikh kingdom that turned into a struggle between the Jammu Dogras and the Sandhawalia sardars. They lost the struggle, which carried its usual quota of intrigue and bloody assignations (Sandhawalia sardars killed Maharaja Sher Singh, his son Pratap Singh and his enemy Raja Dhian Singh). In becoming contenders for power after the death of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, the Sandhawalia sardars had a significant, though short-lived impact on Punjab polity.
The above illustrates the difference between overseas Sikhs and Indian Sikhs on the the study of history. As another example look at this discussion on India's Inspirational Personalities from the BR Archives. An overseas Sikh member (Location: pittsburgh) makes some bizarre assertions on Dogras and is corrected by old BR members like Kaushal.

My blog post on J&K State history. Gulab Singh and his descendants are heroes for people of Jammu, and indeed for Indians in general, because it is thanks to them that we still have a legal claim on territory stretching into Afghanistan and Tibet. If the British had got their hands on this vast mountainous expanse, one can't even imagine the disastrous impact on independent India's strategic strength.

As for Maharaja Hari Singh, he was a nationalist who supported Indian independence and was on good terms with Sardar Patel. It was the Sardar who cleared the appointment of Mehr Chand Mahajan to be J&K's prime minister, and the appointment of Colonel Kashmir Singh Katoch as military adviser to the Maharaja. By contrast Nehru leagued with Sheikh Abdullah and created impossible conditions for J&K's accession (giving all power to the Shiekh) and even at the last moment it was Sardar Patel's intervention that finally cleared the accession while Hari Singh's soldiers were bravely resisting the Pakistani invasion of J&K State.

As for other claims like "sale of kashmir" that is a claim made by Islamists and their western supporters, posted in the J&K news thread.
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Seeing how the same issues are discussed in both places, is it about time to merge the TSP and UK threads?
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Brown goes soft on fighting Paki terror.

http://worldbbnews.com/2010/01/gordon-b ... rogrammes/

Gordon Brown asked to explain cutbacks in Pakistan counterterrorism programmes
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^Omar Bakri Mohammed's daughter 8) Not safe in office/SHQ/GHQ.
I seriously approve what the kid is upto. Not blowing up people. :|
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The globalised world of Islamic terrorism.

Arrest of Pakistan linked HUJI terrorist Amjad Khwaja in Chennai besides setting of a hijack alert in India sets of a reaction in the UK:
From The Sunday Times
January 24, 2010

Indian hijack plot caused new UK terror alert

David Leppard

FEARS that Islamist terrorists plan to hijack an Indian passenger jet and crash it into a British city helped to prompt this weekend’s heightened terror alert.

MI5 was told by the Indian authorities early last week about a suspected plot by militants linked to Al-Qaeda in Pakistan to hijack an Air India or Indian Airlines flight from Mumbai or Delhi.

The warning, which came after the capture of a suspected Islamic leader, was contained in a detailed “threat assessment” sent to MI5 by the Indian Intelligence Bureau. It did not state that Britain was a specific target. But police security sources said it had raised fears in London that a British city might be attacked. .............................

However, while insisting that there was no specific intelligence suggesting an attack, senior counter-terrorism officials said privately that the Indian warning was “a factor” in the move. ...................................

The threat to hijack an Indian aircraft was uncovered during the interrogation of Amjad Khwaja, a member of a militant Islamist group involved in numerous attacks against India.

He was arrested in the southern city of Chennai earlier this month. He is said to be a leader of Harkat-ul-Jihad-al-Islami, a militant group involved in terrorist attacks in India. ..............................

Indian hijack plot caused new UK terror alert
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70-year gag on Kelly death evidence
Evidence relating to the death of Government weapons inspector David Kelly is to be kept secret for 70 years, it has been reported.
Dr Kelly's body was found in woods close to his Oxfordshire home in 2003, shortly after it was revealed that he was the source of a BBC report casting doubt on the Government's claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction capable of being fired within 45 minutes.
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UK 'using obscure legal principle' to dismiss torture claims in colonial Kenya
The Foreign Office has said four elderly Kenyans alleging that they suffered serious physical and sexual abuse at the hands of the British during the Kenyan "emergency" of 1952 to 1960 should not be allowed to proceed with their claim because of the law of state succession.
The Foreign Office is believed to be arguing on a rule derived from a case over licences to fish for Patagonian toothfish in the South Georgia and South Sandwich islands, British overseas territories. "The FO is arguing that responsibility for acts by the colonial government passed to the independent government in 1963,"
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The resentment doesn't stop.

http://www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=25006.html

Note the comment "an upstart Ind

Also
"Officer Training Corps faces the axe"
http://www.arrse.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=142681.html

Nothing to do with India you might think but look at the third comment on the thread by "Boris3098"

And from pakistans & fanatical islams best friend and defender in the UK
"Sixty years of change in India"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... inequality

PS. I will avoid the subject of sanitation on this thread.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rrer=yahoo

Pakis give their kids a headstart. They teach them from a very young age, how women are to be treated.
Balal Khan - thought to be one of the youngest convicted rapists in Britain - targeted the 20-year-old as she walked home.

He subjected her to a severe beating then screamed at her 'Do what I say or I'll kill you', before putting her through the ordeal of a terrifying sex attack.

Then he stole her bag and phone and even took a call from his victim's boyfriend to whom he bragged about what he had done.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0djsug7aH

In the UQ they let Paki rapists off with a gentle pat on the knuckles if they say "sorry".
But after pleading guilty to charges of rape and robbery the teenager was sentenced to just three years because of his age - and because he said ‘sorry’.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0djt9PO6s
Made for each other onlee.

Allah Save the Queen!
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^^^
Well she asked for it
- She should have been in purdah, and
- Escorted by a male relative

Men cannot control their impulses
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UK economy lies 'on bed of nitroglycerine' – top financier
The government's hopes of claiming credit for reviving the British economy suffered a severe blow today when the world's biggest buyers of bonds warned that the UK was a "must to avoid" for his investors as its debt was "resting on a bed of nitroglycerine".
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