What is being talked about is not the Predator or the Reaper but the smaller and older RQ-7 Shadow UAV.SSridhar wrote:Flash News
Times Now reports that the US has decided to share drone technology with Pakistan.
KARACHI: Federal Minister for Ports and Shipping Babar Khan Ghauri fears that there is a threat of drone strikes in Karachi also after country’s tribal areas.
Talking to media, he said drone attacks can take place in Karachi over presence of some elements.
The Shadow is much, much smaller than the Reaper. Gross weight 170kg, 38hp engine, 68 mile range, and carries just a basic surveillance package. Basically for a company/battalion commander to look behind the next hill.Rangudu wrote:What is being talked about is not the Predator or the Reaper but the smaller and older RQ-7 Shadow UAV.SSridhar wrote:Flash News
Times Now reports that the US has decided to share drone technology with Pakistan.
Not that this isn't another vicotry for TSPA blackmail, but let's be sure that it is not exaggerated.
Whats your source?What is being talked about is not the Predator or the Reaper but the smaller and older RQ-7 Shadow UAV.
Here is the actual poll. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/p ... anpoll.pdfR_Kumar wrote:Same new is reported in Washington post but for the obvious reason there is no mention of India.In a new opinion poll, Afghans have rated India as the most favourable foreign country in Afghanistan and have rejected a role for Pakistan in their country.
Poll: 7 in 10 Afghans support US forces
wonder if the poll was only in Kabul or all of Afghanistan.Nandu wrote:
Here is the actual poll. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/p ... anpoll.pdf
See questions 39 and 40.
The government said on Thursday it could not guarantee against repeat of 26/11 like attacks in India and the best safeguard against such strikes was de-linking of peace process from action against terrorism and the Kashmir and water disputes.
“Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn’t be any more terrorist hits in India,” Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani was quoted by a source as having told the visiting US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, who called on him.
The prime minister presented a roadmap for bridging the trust deficit between Islamabad and New Delhi.
The prime minister’s roadmap sought evenhandedness by US vis-à-vis Pakistan and India, stoppage of unmanned drone attacks in Pakistan’s territory, immediate disbursement of Coalition Support Fund arrears and deletion of Pakistan from the list of countries whose nationals face special screening at US airports.
It is not business as usual. Bakis can continue to live in the poo land. As long as India doesn't believe that it business as usual, that's all it matters. Bakis well are trying to be bakis. No one can and should change them.The government said on Thursday it could not guarantee against repeat of 26/11 like attacks in India and the best safeguard against such strikes was de-linking of peace...
)Wah kya baat hai Anujandullah ..extreme talentAnujan wrote:There - I fixed it for you.
No quitter, he
Our poor Min of Fin is at the end of his tether. The faujis take their budget and spend it, come hell or high water. They want their increases and they’re not concerned where it’s coming from. The Min of Fin has to sign the cheques. Our mole reports that he’s having a difficult time balancing the figures and one of these days he may just throw in the towel.
Extensions galore
Apparently, an adjudicator can be appointed an ad-hoc jay within three years of his retirement. Our mole says the chief adjudicator is fuming with Hubby because he failed to grant an extension to a recently retired buddy of his. And despite protestations from Canny ’s quarter, the buzz in Isloo is that first he wants his right hand guy, the head honcho of the Invisible Soldiers Inc granted an extension beyond his shelf life which expires in March, and then he wants a “forever and ever” stamp for himself. Whatever happened to high principle and those tall claims of merit and justice and all that bluster? Or do “principles” apply only to civilian politicians?
N’est-ce pas?
A fly on the wall tells us that Canny and his pal, the head honcho of the Invisible Soldiers Inc make it a point to avoid all edibles when they go and visit Hubby in the haunted house. God knows what the stuff might be laced with, n’est-ce pas?
Vicious rumour
Then there’s another vicious rumour doing the rounds. And it goes something like this: a civilian intelligence agency picked up some chatter on the lines and followed a hot lead. The agency’s operatives found themselves interrupting a cosy tete a tete between the Chief Adjudicator and The Man of Steel’s Talented Bro. And what could they have done, pray tell, but snapped some incriminating pix? It’s simply too ridiculous to be entertained, this silly rumour.
Second coming
Get ready folks, for Mush’s second coming. He’s working on his manifesto and planning to inaugurate his new political party in April. Currently, he’s consulting with his gang in the safe haven of Abu Dhabi. Mush is of the view that the khakis and qazis together will make sure that the coming dispensation is minus Hubby and The Man of Steel. Which will leave the field wide open for him & co. Mush isn’t the khakis’ first choice, mind you, that being themselves but he is definitely their fall-back position.
Frankly this "US's OK" appears to me to be a typical slave mentality reaction from the Indian press as if the "US's OK" wil make any difference to Indian reaction or non reaction. India is not Saddam who attacked Kuwait on some "US OK"Satya_anveshi wrote:I find it amusing that this announcement about Drone Tech transfer comes at a time when some Indians are interpreting a US's OK for a possible escalation or retaliation from India.
So Gilani says their govt. cannot guarantee their own citizens' safety against such attacks, so how can they guarantee India's. So the question is, what will change if India removes the precondition of talks? how will your "non-state actors" suddenly come under your control once India starts composite talks with you?“Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn’t be any more terrorist hits in India,”
Do you think the UAVs will be broadcasting on some secure Paki djinn channel that the Yanquis will not be able to see?pgbhat wrote:^
Drones can be shot down by Indians not a huge threat IMHO. What should bother unkil more is, what happens if these drones are used to monitor US Spec ops (unlikely but still bakis being bakis) and alert Haqqanis?
People would be willing to buy his argument if Pakistan had shown any interest in tackling terrorism. Let them do the following and we will agree with Gilani.archan wrote:So Gilani says their govt. cannot guarantee their own citizens' safety against such attacks, so how can they guarantee India's. So the question is, what will change if India removes the precondition of talks? how will your "non-state actors" suddenly come under your control once India starts composite talks with you?“Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn’t be any more terrorist hits in India,”
They seem to think everyone else is retarded like themselves to buy their stories. I mean, if you want to send out a threat, be a man about it.
Gilani has fallen into the same trap that the Great Quaid himself, an astute barrister called to court from the most famous Inn etc., fell to 62 years back. He told Mountbatten that if the Indian Army withdrew from J&K, he can pull back the tribesmen, thus betraying the 'non-state actors'.archan wrote:So the question is, what will change if India removes the precondition of talks? how will your "non-state actors" suddenly come under your control once India starts composite talks with you?
But I am 400% sure it is possible with some Chicom additions and modifications.shiv wrote: Do you think the UAVs will be broadcasting on some secure Paki djinn channel that the Yanquis will not be able to see?
I love the verb "droned", like "googled"kmkraoind wrote:5 Droned in Pakistan
Interior Minister Rehman Malik has said Pakistan could not be held responsible for any terrorist attack inside the Indian territory, as members of the Senate on Thursday strongly criticised the statement of US Defence Secretary Robert Gates that it would be difficult to stop India if a Mumbai-type incident occurred again.
Responding to points of order from senators, Malik urged India and the United States to share information if they have about any planned attack inside India by militant groups allegedly based in Pakistan. “The responsibility of any such attack will lie totally on India as they are not ready to share any information with us,” Rehman Malik said in categorical words.
Opposition members Raja Zafarul Haq and Prof Khurshid Ahmed expressed concern over the statement of Robert Gates, which he gave during his stay in India, and described it as part of a conspiracy against Pakistan.
“Robert Gates is not welcomed in Pakistan and he should be asked to return,” Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) Senator Professor Khurshid Ahmed on a point of order said. Raja Zafarul Haq of PML-N said the statement of US Defence Secretary is a matter of concern.
. The minister pointed out it has become fashionable in India to blame Pakistan for anything wrong that occurs in that country.
He said when the Samjhota Express tragedy took place, India blamed the ISI but later an honest Indian police officer investigated the incident and came to the conclusion that a colonel of the Indian army, Prohat, had engineered the plan by hiring some Pakistani militants.
Earlier, speaking on a point of order, Raja Zafarul Haq said India is facing movements of secession in seven states and recurrence of a Mumbai-like fiasco was not impossible.
Seeing Gates’ statement in the background of a recent statement of the Indian army chief Deepak Kapoor that India could deal with Pakistan and China at the same time, the PML-N Senator feared recurrence of any misadventure would provide India an opportunity to act against Pakistan.
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He said even after one year, the Indian courts could not decide the matter and now even the Indian newspapers like Hindu are reporting in their editorials that major actors of Mumbai attacks were Indians. “But Robert Gates citing Mumbai incident is saying that India can attack Pakistan,” he regretted.
Very apoplectic, very.Even though the Pakistan government has acted with restraint by not jumping into the controversy, individual ministers have commented strongly against Pakistani players failing to find a place in any of the IPL teams.
Interior Minister Rehman Malik said cricket was a way of doing diplomacy and India should send a delegation to apologise to the Pakistani players and invite them to play in the matches. He said it showed India was “not serious” about pursuing peace with Pakistan.
Sports Minister Ejaz Jakhrani also condemned the exclusion of the Pakistani players and said Pakistan would give a “fitting” reply.
Cricketing hero-turned-politician Imran Khan and another Pakistani cricketing great, Zaheer Abbas, said Pakistan should reserve the right to boycott the 2011 World Cup cricket matches at Indian venues in retaliation.
The Cable Operators Association of Pakistan said at a press conference that they would block any local or international channel that telecasts IPL matches, a decision that will hit Geo TV’s sports channel, which has paid for exclusive rights to show the matches in Pakistan.
At a press conference in Lahore, Captain Jabbar Ahmed Khan, the president of the association said the decision had been taken to express solidarity with the players.
The National Assembly has pulled parliamentarians from a delegation which is to travel to India for the Election Commission’s 50th anniversary celebrations. Two parliamentarians were in the delegation.
The rest of the delegates, including Pakistan’s Chief Election Commissioner, will go ahead with the visit, Farahnaz Ispahani, media adviser to President Asif Ali Zardari said.
Speaker Fehmida Mirza’s announcement that the parliamentarians will not go followed a long speech in the National Assembly by the leader of the Opposition, Chaudhary Nisar Ahmed of the Pakistan Muslim League (N), who said the party was withdrawing its delegate, Ayaz Amir, in protest against the manner in which the Pakistani players had been treated at the IPL auction.
Mr. Ahmed also said his party would not join any other delegation visiting India until “India changes its attitude.” He demanded a ban on all sporting ties with India and also a complete ban on Indian films. He accused the government of trying to appease India.
Jamshed Dasti, head of a parliamentary committee on sports said he would move a resolution in the National Assembly against the IPL.
News that the RQ-7B Shadow is the candidate drone is out in the public domain:AnantD wrote:Rangudu:
Whats your source?What is being talked about is not the Predator or the Reaper but the smaller and older RQ-7 Shadow UAV.
Which actually is a succinct summarisation!India’s attitude towards Pakistan has changed from being patronising to apathetic. And it seems that Islamabad just can’t stomach that
After the attack on Parliament in December 2001, India was livid and at one level ready for war. Troops were mobilised. For a whole host of reasons, India did not and could not go to war....
India realised its autonomy had been curtailed. That was the price for growing up — as an economy, as a nuclear power, as a nation. Fortuitously, it was in about 2002 that the Indian economy pressed on the accelerator. The following years transformed the Indian mind-space. They also left an impact on Indian perceptions of Pakistan.
It would be downright over-optimistic to believe Pakistani civil rights activists and liberals can actually influence policy on India. There is a difference between what is desirable and what is feasible. Pakistan is not about to throw up its own Vaclav Havel.
At the heart of the matter is a compelling verity India just does not want to admit: it has astonishingly little influence within Pakistan. This makes any proposal — war-mongering and demands to bomb the country or, at the other end of the spectrum, calls to promote democracy in Islamabad, patronise kebab shops in Lahore and stand shoulder-to-shoulder with civil society in Quetta and downtown Peshawar — a non-starter.
Hope the khachars (mules) and khotas (asses) realize this.A Malik wrote:Its middle classes see their country as in another league. They presume — correctly, incorrectly, exaggeratedly — that India is in a two-horse race with China, not in a two-mule derby with Pakistan
Imran was of the opinion that Pakistan should agitate the statement of the US secretary of defence, adding that the anti-terror war Pakistan was fighting as its own war was actually for the US and for dollars.
The PTI chairman was of the view that in case of non-implementation of the judgment, the judiciary could ask the Army to take over, living within its constitutional limits so that mid-term elections could be held.
Pakistan’s economy is likely to grow at the slowest pace in South Asia in the next three years, according to the Global Economic Prospects 2010 released by the World Bank which also stated that the region was least impacted by the global recession.
India according to Global Economic Prospects 2010 would be the fastest growing economy in the region with a real GDP growth of 6 per cent in 2009-10, 7.5 per cent in 2010-11 and 8 per cent in 2010. This means that the Indian GDP growth is forecast to be 2.5 times higher than Pakistan in 2010-11 and two times higher in 2011-12.
India, Bangladesh, and Bhutan are expected to emerge from the global crisis with stronger growth performances, backed by generally sound economic policies and greater resilience of trade, investment, and remittances. Pakistan, and to a lesser extent, Nepal-are expected to face moderate growth outturns, as political uncertainty and fighting continue to disrupt economic activity
This shows Indian hegemony and fascist attitude… this disparity in GDP growth increase strategic imbalance in the region and decreases Paki-nuke threshold.
