Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Jan 2010 15:59

Shilpa Shetty has got it right: No explanation is owed.

If the crickteers from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan feel slighted for not being selected, they need not take part in the IPL selection process in future:

We don’t owe an explanation for Pakistani players’ omission: Shilpa

January 22nd, 2010 - 4:42 pm ICT by IANS

Mumbai, Jan 22 (IANS) Bollywood actress Shilpa Shetty, who is a co-owner of Rajasthan Royals Indian Premier League (IPL) team, said team owners don’t owe an explanation for dropping Pakistani players from auction for the third season of the Twenty20 matches.

“We don’t owe an explanation on our decision on Pakistani players. The reasons for dropping are understandable in the current scenario. We would like the media and the people to react to such situations more sensibly,” Shilpa told reporters here Friday. ………………….

The Indian

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 22 Jan 2010 16:07

Filipino jihadist reported killed in north Waziristan

r_subramanian · Post by **r_subramanian** » 22 Jan 2010 16:49

SSridhar wrote: r_subramanian, that was when Pakistan announced its experiment of One-Unit. This was done ostensibly to eliminate inter-provincial disharmony. The entire West Pakistan was made as one unit or one province (instead of 4 provinces) with the provincial capital at Lahore. This was a red rag to the Sindhis who felt that the already dominant Punjabis will further overwhelm them.

Thanks Sridhar

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Jan 2010 17:13

arun wrote:Shilpa Shetty has got it right: No explanation is owed.

If the crickteers from the Islamic Republic of Pakistan feel slighted for not being selected, they need not take part in the IPL selection process in future:

We don’t owe an explanation for Pakistani players’ omission: Shilpa

The Indian

Among folks of her ilk from the filmdom, who have been mouthing inanities, she has surprisingly been forthright.

Patni · Post by **Patni** » 22 Jan 2010 17:34

X-posting a link to Internal security and intelligence thread : Lashkar readies para-gliders to launch suicide attack on India: Intel

NEW DELHI: Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba has acquired more than 50 para-gliding equipment from Europe, setting off alarm bells in the government that these could be used to carry out air-borne suicide attacks in the country.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 22 Jan 2010 17:47

Pakistan Army's counter question

Asked why the Pakistani military has not clamped down on the Haqqanis, Abbas noted that the network, led by Pashtun warlord Sirajuddin Haqqani, has an equally large presence in Afghanistan. "Why hasn't the U.S. been able to detect Haqqani and target him there?" he said.

RayC · Post by **RayC** » 22 Jan 2010 17:56

SSridhar wrote:07968.html]The Indian[/url]

Among folks of her ilk from the filmdom, who have been mouthing inanities, she has surprisingly been forthright.

I am awaiting what Mahesh Bhatt has to say over this.

He does have an opinion about everything under the sun.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 22 Jan 2010 18:10

Wow what a turnaround, a few years ago SHilpa SHetty was apolozing to Pakis on the Bad Things Indians ( Meaning Yindoos- it does not matter to them what religion people of India are) were doing to them and how bad Big Brother India was. I guess the WKK group is reducing.

I think what this means is our people need proper exposure the RAPE under stress and thier true side and they realise what kind of people theya are.

R Vaidya · Post by **R Vaidya** » 22 Jan 2010 18:13

On One side Aman Ki Asha and on the other IPL kicks.

It is called Rabdi treatment--This sweet dish is made keeping a huge Kadai and boiling milk-- by the fire below-- to condense it. At the same time a hand fan is used continuosly by the cook to cool it from above.
Heat it from below and cool it from above simultaneously--
Rabdi treatment to Pakis by the Chanakians--
It will take ages for this to be understood by the Pakis--since they cant look/comprhend at two things simultaneously.

R Vaidya

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Jan 2010 18:37

AdityaM wrote:They should change the IPL logo to read:
IPL: Right to admission reserved

And, shoes, shirt and common sense required. No bhooka nangas.

anupmisra · Post by **anupmisra** » 22 Jan 2010 18:43

Ajatshatru wrote:A simple query: Is TSP’s respect so fragile that it gets dented?

Yes, both their ego and "sense of H&D hurt" are very fragile. That's been honed over 63 years. But for most parts, these are all put on acts. Put on for the west for empathy and alms. Watch the next few weeks how this is all played out to the western audiences and the Indian WKKs. There will be, in my opinion, some give and take (mostly giving) on behalf of the Indians, and once the "balm of alm" has played its course, the pakis will conjure up another hurt for another reason for another round of hurt dignity.

archan · Post by **archan** » 22 Jan 2010 18:51

Ajatshatru wrote:A simple query:

Is TSP’s respect so fragile that it gets dented merely owing to IPL not picking some TSP cricket players? If so, then what is the point in TSP having such respect in the first place?

(Also, where is this so-called respect when the entire world dubs TSP as a terrorist state and the most dangerous place on earth)?

It is one thing when a western gora sahib insults them. They pay also, you see. Like a wife whose husband beats her says "maarta hai to kya hua, pyar bhi to karta hai" (so what if he beats me, but he makes love to me as well). However, when a "Hindoo" nation insults them (even if it is a perceived insult), oh my my, that is unacceptable! after all they were ruling these inferior Hindoos not too long ago (well, the years don't matter, the memories of the great empire are there).

James B · Post by **James B** » 22 Jan 2010 18:58

X-Post

Air terror? Lashkar gets paragliders for attacks

Laskar-e-Toiba, the Pakistan-based terrorist group blamed for the 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks, has bought 50 paragliding kits from Europe and intends them to launch attacks on India.

Sources in the government told CNN-IBN Laskar operatives are training to use the paragliding kits. Security agencies are carrying out mock drills to counter the threat.

Radars located at strategic locations have been tuned to intercept all low flying objects and authorities are not taking any chances, sources said.

TSP pigs are getting more savvy day by day.

animesharma · Post by **animesharma** » 22 Jan 2010 19:24

Ajatshatru wrote:A simple query:

Is TSP’s respect so fragile that it gets dented merely owing to IPL not picking some TSP cricket players? If so, then what is the point in TSP having such respect in the first place?

Its a mere psychological problem which has prompted them (and people in India) to take matter so seriously. They are blessed with equal-equal mentality, and the fact that yindoo nation has moved on and doesn't care about them has created a severe identity crisis.
I would like to quote a story here, which is not completely true.. but its the theme i am trying to convey.

my relative is almost 7 years younger than me. Till my schooling, not even a single day has passed when we didn't fight on mere material stuffs like pens, copies and all. It was a way of life and we both enjoyed it. When i went to college, the fight continued on phone. But we couldn't fight much, though i missed it, but i had other concerns to take care of. The four years of my college changed his perception about the fun in having fights and though our fight was now bi-annual, it had become serious.
When i started working, i had absolutely no interest left in fighting and moved on. So, my only interest left for him was a basic responsibility of honoring our relation. I matured, but he didn't. Our fight became an annual event and he started cursing his parents for not sending him to good college.
In the end, he kept cursing everybody but himself for his pathetic way of life and it was this depression which made him loose his mind.

Pakistan, as a nation is going through same phase of life. Its embedded in their mind that they are different from India,and they were so committed to the fact that their only identity remained was of being anti-India.
They can face/are facing an identity crisis when they can no more fit in their dream role and hence the outcry.

RoyG · Post by **RoyG** » 22 Jan 2010 19:31

Pak can't guarantee against repeat of 26/11 in India: Gilani to US

PTI, 22 January 2010, 07:12pm IST

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan, which is experiencing "Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day", cannot guarantee there will not be a repeat of the 26/11 strikes in India, Premier Yousuf Raza Gilani has told the US.

"Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn't be any more terrorist hits in India," Gilani was quoted by a source in the media here as having told visiting US secretary of defence Robert Gates on Thursday.

Gilani said the best safeguard against such incidents is delinking the bilateral peace process from action against terrorism.

The Dawn newspaper reported that the Pakistan prime minister told Gates about steps taken against militant groups, saying they had been outlawed and their network disrupted.

In an apparent reference to Jamaat-ud-Dawah chief Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, accused by India of masterminding the Mumbai attacks, Gilani said his government could not prosecute anyone without evidence.

He also sought "even-handedness" by the US in its dealings with Pakistan and India, the daily reported.

An official statement issued by the prime minister's office said Pakistan-India relations had figured in Gilani's discussions with Gates but did not say whether the premier had said Islamabad could not guarantee there would not be more Mumbai-like attacks.

The statement quoted Gilani as saying that "Pakistan is committed to peace in the region and, in this context, his government is making sincere efforts to resume the composite dialogue process with India."

While in India, Gates had warned that Pakistan-based militants with links to al-Qaida were planning strikes in India with the hope that retaliation would lead to a new conflict between the two countries. Gates also said that New Delhi might not show restraint as it had after the Mumbai attacks in 2008.

According to the official statement, Gilani "regretted that the response from (India) has not been encouraging."

"The relations between India and Pakistan should not become hostage to the activities of terrorists which (are) the common enemy. For lasting peace in the region, both countries should resolve the core issues, including Kashmir and water dispute," he said.

India put the composite dialogue with Pakistan on hold in the wake of the Mumbai attacks. It has linked the resumption of the peace process to Pakistan taking action against the perpetrators of the terrorist assault.

Though JuD chief Saeed was placed under house arrest shortly after the Mumbai attacks in 2008, he was freed on the orders of the Lahore High Court last year.

The government is yet to challenge his release in the supreme court despite a pledge to do so.

Contrary to Gilani's statements during his meeting with Gates, the Pakistan government has not issued any formal notification banning the JuD, which has been declared a front for the outlawed LeT by the UN Security Council.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 489140.cms

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 22 Jan 2010 19:35

I hope a Paki C-130J carries these and get shot down and crashes a few Km inside Indian territory and . Doubt they will try somthing that foolish though but it would be nice. Some Wkk can also get under the plane when it crashes

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 22 Jan 2010 19:36

durgesh wrote:'No guarantee against repeat of Mumbai-like attacks'

Islamabad: The government said on Thursday it could not guarantee against repeat of 26/11 like attacks in India and the best safeguard against such strikes was de-linking of peace process from action against terrorism and the resolution of Kashmir and water disputes.
“Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn’t be any more terrorist hits in India,” Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani was quoted by a source as having told the visiting US Secretary of Defence Robert Gates, who called on him. Pakistan suffered its worst year of terrorist violence last year, with more than 3,000 people killed.

Secretary Gates had in India warned that Pakistan-based militants, who had links with Al Qaeda, were planning strikes in India with the hope that retaliation would lead to a new conflict.

In his bid to raise pressure on Pakistan to act against militant groups targeting India, the secretary had said that New Delhi, unlike the restraint shown after Mumbai incident, was not apt to holding back if attacked again.

If the GoP cannot guarantee, then why do they have a country and why do they have a government and why tf is this guy taking pagaar? What is going on in your country is none of our concerns. Thats like saying my child has gone crazy and is smashing around things in my house willy nilly, in the process if it smashes something in your house, it is not my responsibility.

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 22 Jan 2010 19:36

RoyG wrote:Pak can't guarantee against repeat of 26/11 in India: Gilani to US

"Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn't be any more terrorist hits in India," Gilani was quoted by a source in the media here as having told visiting US secretary of defence Robert Gates on Thursday.

Gilani said the best safeguard against such incidents is delinking the bilateral peace process from action against terrorism.

So Groper is saying that the Paki Army is useless and is unable to protect the Paki citizens. These dump asses think they are making sound arguments, but as usual show their retardation.

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 22 Jan 2010 20:00

milindc wrote: So Groper is saying that the Paki Army is useless and is unable to protect the Paki citizens. These dump asses think they are making sound arguments, but as usual show their retardation.

As usual Pakis are taking the following attitude towards terrorism from Pakistan - "Oh you Indians do things that anger our devout Islamic population and they take it upon themselves to attack you. We cannot stop that and we have nothing to do with it. If you changed your behavior maybe our people would stop doing what they are doing"

Of course this is an admission of sorts that people from Pakistan are doing things against India. But Pakis must be held responsible. Unless we hold the Pakistan government responsible Pakis will keep talking like this. Fact is they do exert some control on the terrorists - and they must be made to exert that control by making Paki government and army ass burn every time India gets attacked.

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Jan 2010 20:23

RoyG wrote:Pak can't guarantee against repeat of 26/11 in India: Gilani to US

PTI, 22 January 2010, 07:12pm IST

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan, which is experiencing "Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day", cannot guarantee there will not be a repeat of the 26/11 strikes in India, Premier Yousuf Raza Gilani has told the US.

"Pakistan is itself facing Mumbai-like attacks almost every other day and when we cannot protect our own citizens, how can we guarantee that there wouldn't be any more terrorist hits in India," Gilani was quoted by a source in the media here as having told visiting US secretary of defence Robert Gates on Thursday. {Snipped}..................

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/indi ... 489140.cms

So why should the Islamic Republic of Pakistan be confident about its ability to protect its nuclear weapons from terrorists when it has claimed an inability to do anything about controlling terrorists?

So why should the Islamic Republic of Pakistan complain about cross border strikes on terrorists when it has claimed an inability to do anything about controlling terrorists?

On the basis of the PM Gilani’s statement:

1.The Islamic Republic of Pakistan should forthwith surrender its nuclear weapons to the UN and

2.The Islamic Republic of Pakistan should forthwith Open its borders and air space to all those, including India, who can do something about the terrorists infesting the Islamic Republic.

PM Gilani’s comment is yet another one of the “tactically brilliant”

variety that the Islamic Republic churns out from time to time only to find they have instead shot themselves in their own musharraf’s.

Typically breathtaking stupidity

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Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 22 Jan 2010 20:25

Won't be long before the next BIG 26/11 like attack (i.e. triple digit+ angrezi speaking or elite class casualities in a major metro area) happens. The airplane hijack or blowup scenario fits in with such a scenario. Phir dekhenge Dilli ka bravado - kauna kiska kya khaad lega. I am as much a jingo as the next guy here and often wish brahmos attacks on muridke and all but IMO its unrealistic to expect Dilli to goto war short of a JDAM on a major Indian city. Sad but thats how things stand.

arun · Post by **arun** » 22 Jan 2010 20:28

^^^ Is that a Psychohistoric inevitability

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 22 Jan 2010 20:33

^^^psychohistory is unoriginal, my deep studies reveal. The ancients knew all about it, used to call it karma or something....

Neela · Post by **Neela** » 22 Jan 2010 20:39

This takes the cake:

Gilani said the best safeguard against such incidents is delinking the bilateral peace process from action against terrorism.

What does he mean by safeguard?
What can he guarantee then?
Does this not contradict his previous statement by using the word "SAFEGUARD"?

Honestly,does not make any sense to analyse this nonsense!

rajpa · Post by **rajpa** » 22 Jan 2010 20:46

Gilani said the best safeguard against such incidents is delinking the bilateral peace process from action against terrorism.

"The best safeguard against blindness is to separate the head from the body."

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 22 Jan 2010 20:48

AnimeshP wrote:Apologies if posted earlier ....
Mehsud Jirga agrees to hand over Hakimullah

A Jirga of the Mehsud tribe on Wednesday agreed to hand over their 378 wanted men, including the chief of the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) Hakimullah Mehsud, to the government and announced to fully support the government in maintaining peace and reconstruction process.

Well .. that didn't take long ...
False hopes created by reports of Mehsud Jirga’s pledge

The false reports about the ìpledgeî by Mehsud tribal elders to hand over the most-wanted Taliban commanders to the government opened a Pandora’s box on Thursday, with people asking whether they were really capable of fulfilling their commitment or it was meant to avoid the wrath of the armed forces

Like other members of the Jirga comprising “Dre Mahsud” (three Mahsud tribes) — Balolzai, Shaman Khel and Manzai — South Waziristan chieftain Malik Mehsud Ahmad Abdullay was also surprised by the banner headlines in national dailies about their claim.

“The political agent wanted us to make a promise about handing over TTP head Hakimullah Mehsud and his men to the government but we told him it was not the proper time for such a silly demand,” said a Mehsud tribal elder who requested anonymity.

The elder said they knew it was not the way to tackle a very complicated matter involving a large conflict but it seemed the political agent wanted to please his boss in Peshawar.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 22 Jan 2010 20:55

archan wrote:
Ajatshatru wrote:A simple query:

Is TSP’s respect so fragile that it gets dented merely owing to IPL not picking some TSP cricket players? If so, then what is the point in TSP having such respect in the first place?

(Also, where is this so-called respect when the entire world dubs TSP as a terrorist state and the most dangerous place on earth)?
It is one thing when a western gora sahib insults them. They pay also, you see. Like a wife whose husband beats her says "maarta hai to kya hua, pyar bhi to karta hai" (so what if he beats me, but he makes love to me as well). However, when a "Hindoo" nation insults them (even if it is a perceived insult), oh my my, that is unacceptable! after all they were ruling these inferior Hindoos not too long ago (well, the years don't matter, the memories of the great empire are there).

And also remember that the gora insult will not be an insult at at all if the gora does an equal equal with India, not necessarily insult India, but in some other way, shape, or form. TSP's has creid profusely on drone attacks, but the goras did not stop insulting. But to assuage that insult, what do the goras do, give some drone technology to TSP so they can continue on with their national mission: terrorize and harass the Hindus.

CRamS · Post by **CRamS** » 22 Jan 2010 21:10

Unkil through its mouthpiece media sets up a premise, and that assumes a life ot its own. Hdere is Unkil's latest equal equal machination giving TSP drones so it can spy on and protect itself from an Indian reprisal after the next LeT terror assualt. But here is the bold-faced lie:

Without Pakistani soldiers pressurising the Taliban in the tribal areas, it will be mission impossible for US forces in Afghanistan.

Who is Unkil trying to fool? A few B-b2 quarter pounders on the tribal areas and problem solved. But then there will be no TSP left after that, and after Unkil leaves Afganisthan, who will cage those smelly smarty Hindoos?

Anujan · Post by **Anujan** » 22 Jan 2010 21:12

SSridhar wrote: r_subramanian, that was when Pakistan announced its experiment of One-Unit. This was done ostensibly to eliminate inter-provincial disharmony. The entire West Pakistan was made as one unit or one province (instead of 4 provinces) with the provincial capital at Lahore. This was a red rag to the Sindhis who felt that the already dominant Punjabis will further overwhelm them.

r_subramanian wrote: Thanks Sridhar

Also if you remember SSridhar-ji, "One-Unit" was also created to balance out the population mismatch vis-a-vis East Pakistan (Now Bangladesh). The fear was that whereas west Pakistan would be fragmented with 4 provinces, the SDRE east Pakistan would dominate all elected bodies due to larger population.

Ofcourse the TFTAs couldnt stand it.

Chinmayanand · Post by **Chinmayanand** » 22 Jan 2010 21:13

Hari Seldon wrote:Won't be long before the next BIG 26/11 like attack (i.e. triple digit+ angrezi speaking or elite class casualities in a major metro area) happens. The airplane hijack or blowup scenario fits in with such a scenario. Phir dekhenge Dilli ka bravado - kauna kiska kya khaad lega. I am as much a jingo as the next guy here and often wish brahmos attacks on muridke and all but IMO its unrealistic to expect Dilli to goto war short of a JDAM on a major Indian city. Sad but thats how things stand.

I bet even that won't provoke the infidels in Dilli to raid the barbarians across the western border. When the next attack happens, MMS will call Obama and ask "Hujure Ala , kya aadesh hai ? Dossier taiyar karen ? Kitne panne ka ?"

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Jan 2010 21:44

So this para-gliders are really hang gliders kits. Who makes them in Europe? And whats the plan? Bearded valkyries swooping down on suicide missions? Dont hang gliders need a high launch platform like a hill or something? Also are these para-gliders powered?

Also after the ski jackets purchase in Austria by TSP before Kargil, shouldnt RAW or the local embassy folks keep in contact with makers of most if not all lethal goods to get tip off of unusual purchases?

shyamd · Post by **shyamd** » 22 Jan 2010 21:49

After US, UK warns India of more terror attacks

New Delhi, Jan 22 (ANI): United Kingdom has warned New Delhi that Al Qaeeda and The Taliban are planning to attack India.

Buzz up!
The warning comes days after US Defence Secretary Robert Gates gave a similar warning when he was in New Delhi.

UK High Commissioner to India Richard Stagg said: "We are clear that there is continuing threat of terrorist attack, there are people in this part of the world who are planning attacks. Some of these forces have the capability to launch such attacks."

United Kingdom, which is holding a key conference on Afghanistan in London next week, has also asked Pakistan to do more against Lashkar-e-Toiba on the eastern front.

Talking to reporters in New Delhi, the British envoy said that UK is ready to support Pakistan in clamping down on the terrorists.

"There is more to be done in tackling the problem of Afghan Taliban in the west and tackling Lashkar-e-Toiba networks in the east," Stagg said.

More than ten thousand British troops are present in Afghanistan and are often attacked and killed by the Taliban and Al Qaeeda terrorists.

"We have made it clear to the Pakistan Government that these terror groups should be prevented from supporting insurgencies across the border," Stagg said.

The British envoy lauded India's efforts in Afghanistan, and said: "We think that very substantial help that India is giving to Afghanistan is very effective and valuable.

Stagg also believes that UK is taking lessons from India's role in Afghanistan, and said that its efforts are under valued and less understood and is sometimes much more effective than the help coming from Western Europe or North America. By Naveen Kapoor(ANI)

James B · Post by **James B** » 22 Jan 2010 21:53

ramana wrote:So this para-gliders are really hang gliders kits. Who makes them in Europe? And whats the plan? Bearded valkyries swooping down on suicide missions? Dont hang gliders need a high launch platform like a hill or something? Also are these para-gliders powered?

Also after the ski jackets purchase in Austria by TSP before Kargil, shouldnt RAW or the local embassy folks keep in contact with makers of most if not all lethal goods to get tip off of unusual purchases?

Using paragliders to carry a suicide mission is indeed scary. All they would do is launch themselves from the top of a building and glide (with some help from wind or some engine power) to the designated place and carry out the mission. This will obviate all the ground security measures and makes the reach of suicide bombers/fidayeen much easier.

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 22 Jan 2010 21:55

but wouldnt they be that much more visible and so potential shot in the air itself? although at night they can cause havoc. and may have some use in insurgency?

ramana · Post by **ramana** » 22 Jan 2010 21:57

shaardula wrote:but wouldnt they be that much more visible and so potential shot in the air itself? although at night they can cause havoc. and may have some use in insurgency?

Also dont they need to keep both arms flapping the wings or what not to be able to do damage. Maybe the idea is to get to top of a building and jump off and land some where and create mayhem?

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 22 Jan 2010 22:04

James B wrote:
ramana wrote:So this para-gliders are really hang gliders kits. Who makes them in Europe? And whats the plan? Bearded valkyries swooping down on suicide missions? Dont hang gliders need a high launch platform like a hill or something? Also are these para-gliders powered?

Also after the ski jackets purchase in Austria by TSP before Kargil, shouldnt RAW or the local embassy folks keep in contact with makers of most if not all lethal goods to get tip off of unusual purchases?
Using paragliders to carry a suicide mission is indeed scary. All they would do is launch themselves from the top of a building and glide (with some help from wind or some engine power) to the designated place and carry out the mission. This will obviate all the ground security measures and makes the reach of suicide bombers/fidayeen much easier.

This definitely doesn't make sense in the Urban scenario, too many obstacles(electric poles, building, trees etc). May be they scouted a place where they could reach using gliders from a near by hill / high-rise.
Need to be alert at the key govt/power/refinery installations.

vera_k · Post by **vera_k** » 22 Jan 2010 22:23

Are these gliders deployed using mountaintops or from an airplane? If mountains are necessary, then it would mean an invasion into Kashmir is in the works.

animesharma · Post by **animesharma** » 22 Jan 2010 22:51

X-Post from Af-pak thread

'World should take lessons from India's work in Afghan'
India's [ Images ] development efforts in Afghanistan provide "more bang per buck" and the international community should take some lessons from it, British High Commissioner Richard Stagg said in New Delhi [ Images ] on Friday.

His remarks come ahead of the London [ Images ] Conference, convened by Afghanistan, the UK and the United Nations on January 28, to coordinate global reconstruction efforts in the strife-torn country.

"India's reconstruction programme in Afghanistan has more impact per dollar than other international efforts. This is probably what we can learn from India," Stagg said.

He noted that the Indian efforts were more focussed on the civilian sector while international thrust was more on the military side.

Stagg said the European Union had plans to spend $ 1.3 billion on development programmes in Afghanistan this year.

However, he said that Indian efforts were "very underknown and undervalued", and expected External Affairs Minister S M Krishna [ Images ] to tell the London Conference what India was doing in Afghanistan.

"It is an opportunity for minister Krishna to tell what India is doing, why it matters and some of his perspectives on why the Indian approach is the one we must think about adopting ourselves," Stagg said.

Asked whether Britain had made any request to India to train the Afghan National Army, he said no such request was made.

Stagg said India could play an important role in any regional framework to stabilise Afghanistan.

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Singha · Post by **Singha** » 22 Jan 2010 23:41

people might want to recall the LTTEs raid on colombo airport wherein they infiltrated via a drain and blew up around 5 a/c on tarmac, causing extensive damage to SL airlines.

if you look at our airports, most media hype and security attention centers on the
passenger terminal. but theres miles of perimeter lightly guarded by towers and some solitary riflemen in small bunkers here and there.

in a foggy night like delhi, visibility is near zero. it would be a lot easier to get in from airside drain or microlight and hide near the apron using false dress like catering or repair crews, hell even like cisf uniform...

Rahul Shukla · Post by **Rahul Shukla** » 22 Jan 2010 23:47

ramana wrote:So this para-gliders are really hang gliders kits. Who makes them in Europe? And whats the plan? Bearded valkyries swooping down on suicide missions? Dont hang gliders need a high launch platform like a hill or something? Also are these para-gliders powered?...

This is very troubling news! Powered handgliders do not need any elevated platform for launch. A jihadi can be up and flying in less than 2 minutes from a flat surface @ sea level. LeT will go for light-weight jihadi's with maybe a 20 lbs of explosives/ammo strapped on.

The range is limited due to fuel carriage/weight restrictions. Speed is also slow. That means there are only two possibilities: 1). A border/coastal town is target. They can starty flying close to coast from a trawler or from the beach. 2). If these powered paragliders have been smuggled into Indian territory via Napal/BD etc, a major event such as parades and political rallies etc are targets.

Yindoos will take this lightly only at their own peril. Ramana saa'r, you need to watch this youtube video: