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Border fence breached, high terror alert sounded
"During the checking of the fencing we have detected that the fence has been cut by militants between pillar number 851 and 852 along the International Border in Abdullian Border Out Post area of Ranbir Singh border belt of Jammu district last evening," he said.

Under the cover of thick fog, the militants had cut nine wires on the Pakistani side and ten wires on the Indian side thereby creating a gap to facilitate infiltration, he said.
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Pakistan's IT Exports back on track now
As per State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) statistics, the exports of computer and information services have reached $21 million in the previous month versus $14 million in the November. Besides, it also posted growth of 16 percent as compared to December of last year, which stood at $18 million.
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SSridhar-> Thats IT& ITES exports $201 million a year, not bad . They have increased it from $50 million to 200 million in 10 years.

Wonder how much of this is call center business. Too much for my liking for the Terrorist State.
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Aditya_V wrote:SSridhar-> Thats IT& ITES exports $201 million a year, not bad . They have increased it from $50 million to 200 million in 10 years.

Wonder how much of this is call center business. Too much for my liking for the Terrorist State.
Aditya_V, about 5 or 6 years back, we had extensive discussion here in this very same thread of the 'burgeoning Pakistani IT/ITeS exports' as claimed by Musharraf and Shortcut. The claims were fantastic, much more than the peanut USD 200 Million Pakistan is claiming today. They ran into Billions. Unfortuanately, I did not preserve the complicated calculations and assumptions that their IT Minister dished out then.

From my memory it was something like this. Every $ earned under the 'IT Export' had to be multiplied by 4 as for every dollar brought into the country three dollars were retained abroad. Add to that the expenditure incurred abroad in advertisements, travel junkets etc. So on and so forth . . .

Being a kufr, and that too of the SDRESP variety, I am unable to understand why the IT/ITeS exports have fallen so dramatically now. That's all.
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India summons Pak envoy over border, LoC fire
NEW DELHI: India on Friday summoned Pakistan’s Deputy High Commissioner Riffat Masood to lodge a “strong” protest over “unprovoked” firing along the Line of Control and the international border.

An official of the Indian External Affairs Ministry said Islamabad’s deputy high commissioner was called in to lodge a protest over the incidents of grave and unprovoked firing across the international border by Pakistan, including rocket fire in the Amritsar sector on January 8.

Masood was summoned by the Indian ministry’s Joint Secretary for Pakistan YK Sinha, who handed over a protest note to her. “The Indian government has asked Pakistan to take all necessary steps to prevent the recurrence of such incidents,” a spokesman said.
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.as ... 2010_pg7_4 (I am not able to link this)
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Krishna's remarks 'immature':Pak
Pakistan has rejected as "immature" External Affairs Minister S M Krishna's reported remarks that any future terror attack on India could impact bilateral ties, saying it would not be "scared by any threat."
Krishna's comments immature? In direct contrast to Pak's historically mature behavior only, eh?
More pertinently, this points exactly to what moi was saying - that the next 26/11 won't ignite war. GoI will only goto war if Pak uses nukes first (some say perhaps, not even then)
Reacting to Krishna's remarks carried by a magazine, Foreign Office Spokesman Abdul Basit said this was the minister's own thinking and that no country had been as sincere as Pakistan in the fight against terrorism as it was a "real victim" of the menace.
How I wish Sri SMK would call this BS for what it is - BS. But diplomatese and nuance is lost on pakis. Only tight jhapads IPL style seem to register aajkal.
Krishna, while reacting to Premier Yousuf Raza Gilani's reported statement that Islamabad could not guarantee against a repeat of 26/11, was quoted by 'India Today' as saying that India has been appreciated for its tolerance and statesmanship in the aftermath of Mumbai strikes, "but any repeat of such attacks will have serious repercussions on bilateral ties."
And thereby Sri SMK reinforces the notion that GoI cares a lot about the "int'l appreciation" coming our way for doing nothing when Indians are being killed in broad, televised daylight by pak sponsored terrorists only.

No wonder the likes of unkil and auntie think and act like a few pats and nods are enough to placate Yindia even before the blood on our sidewalks has dried....
Basit claimed that India's response has been "lethargic" and "not positive" despite all the cooperation from Pakistan.

The "deadlock between the two countries would only be beneficial for non-state actors," he contended.
Sri Bashit's bullshit is getting tiresome alongwith noisome now....
Both countries are nuclear powers and "to think about war is equal to suicide", he added.
Of course, Pak specializes in suicide bumming and hence reserves the right to talk up war fears at every opportunity.
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CRamS wrote:Guys: I am still mystified at the #of dot balls in TSP of late.There seems to be some method, someone is in control of the batsman. Something is definetly cooking. I can't believe that TSP bowlers are so accurate in stopping the sixers that were routine just a few weeks ago.
No siree. The jihadis have now been given support and a free hand to attack India and Afghanistan. hence the attempts at the Indian border, the increased encounters, border firing and attacks in Afghanistan.
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Richard Holbrooke said in his testimony that a teen illiterate Pakistani suicide bomber killed two of his brothers and many friends.

Why kill your own family members?
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VohmaiGawd, major tight slap to TSP ars happened just now only. Posting from Rediff.

Al Qaeda doesn't care about Kashmir: US defence secy
United States Defence Secretary Robert Gates has rubbished Pakistan's long-standing stance that unresolved issues like the Kashmir [ Images ] dispute were breeding terrorism and providing food for thought for banned extremist organisations like the Al Qaeda [ Images ].

While interacting with reporters at the residence of US Ambassador Anne Patterson in Islamabad [ Images ], Gates said groups like the Al Qaeda are hardly concerned over the Kashmir issue.
Awrite, now before jingoes get too smug, the above seems to be DDM spin only. What Gates babu said seems rather mild and can be spun wildly myriad ways in Izloo and DC.
"Al Qaeda doesn't care about Kashmir, what it cares about is creating problems and provoking conflicts," Gates said.

Gates's latest remarks are in addition to his statements, which he gave in New Delhi [ Images ] earlier this week, that Al Qaeda through its off-shoots such as the Lashkar-e-Tayiba [ Images ], the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan and other similar organisations, was trying to destabilise the region by igniting a war between India [ Images ] and Pakistan.

He warned that 'bifurcating' these banned extremist organisations into 'good and 'bad' was a 'mistaken approach'.{OK, and should such bifurcation happen, what do you plan on doing, Gates uncle??}

Responding to queries over the Pakistan army's [ Images ] decision against launching any new offensive against extremists in the next six to twelve months, Gates said, "Pakistan is a sovereign country and it would make its own decisions about what is the best timing for their military operation, when they are going to do it, or whether they are going to do it at all."
Re bolded parts above, Sri Gates is diplomat consummate. Said everything everyone wanted to hear without saying anything at all in the final analysis. wow again.
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Well, essentially when you say that Al Qaeda wants to provoke a conflict you are saying that when the next terror attack happens in India, AQ is responsible and not Pakistani establishment.
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csharma wrote:Well, essentially when you say that Al Qaeda wants to provoke a conflict you are saying that when the next terror attack happens in India, AQ is responsible and not Pakistani establishment.
What gets my goat is that in the above equation the way to prevent a regional confluct is not stopping jehadis from attacking India but preventing India from attacking anyone after a jehadi attack on its soil. Unkil has figured out that it is much easier to maintain status quo in the region by reigning in Indian response than trying to stop terrorists and the mofos who sponsor them. It shows a failure from India's part to safeguard its interests onlee.
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csharma wrote:Well, essentially when you say that Al Qaeda wants to provoke a conflict you are saying that when the next terror attack happens in India, AQ is responsible and not Pakistani establishment.
No. He did not say that AQ and Pakistani establishment are independent.
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Pak govt. red faced after Gates nails its 'no Blackwater operating inside country' lie
From ANI

Islamabad, Jan.23: The Pakistan People's Party (PPP) government has come under attack from the opposition after US Defence Secretary Robert Gates's admitted that controversial private American security firms, Blackwater and DynCorp were indeed present in Pakistan.


The Pakistan government, which has until now denied the presence of any US security firm inside the country, was caught on wrong foot by Gates's statement that companies such as Blackwater were working in Pakistan, but in a private capacity.

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Senator Zafar Ali Shah demanded Interior Minister Rehman Malik's resignation over the issue.

"The interior minister had said on the floor of this House that he would tender his resignation if anyone proved Blackwater's presence in Pakistan. What more proof does the minister require," The Daily Times quoted, as sying.

"It was not a simple thing which the government could ignore, for it involves several bomb explosions and abduction of several persons wanted by Americans," he added.

Meanwhile, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira said the government had never denied the presence of the Blackwater in the country.

Kaira, however, said he was unaware about Gates' statement.


Copyright Asian News International/DailyIndia.com
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The "legitimate nuclear state"!
Pakistan Presses U.S. for Nuclear Cooperation
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Pakistan yesterday pressed the United States for bilateral civilian nuclear trade arrangements and recognition as a legitimate nuclear-weapon state, the Daily Times of Pakistan reported (see GSN, Jan. 19).

Pakistani Defense Minister Ahmad Mukhtar voiced the demands during a meeting with U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates that addressed the necessity of developing a long-term cooperative relationship between the two states. The officials discussed Pakistan's geopolitical, financial and security circumstances, and Mukhtar emphasized his country's actions to combat domestic militants.

Pakistan has repeatedly, and to date unsuccessfully, called for civilian nuclear agreements akin to the arrangements being developed by several nations with Islamabad's nuclear-armed rival, India (Daily Times, Jan. 22).

Gates called Washington's decision in the 1990s to cut links between the U.S. and Pakistani militaries "a grave strategic mistake," Agence France-Presse reported. The move, a response to Islamabad's nuclear weapons work, led to a "trust deficit" between the countries, he said (Dan De Luce, Agence France-Presse I/Yahoo!News, Jan. 22).

The U.S. defense secretary brushed aside "conspiracy theories" that his nation could attempt to forcibly secure Pakistan's nuclear arsenal in the face of an extremist threat (Agence France-Presse II/Yahoo!News, Jan. 21).

Meanwhile, British Foreign Secretary David Miliband yesterday noted Pakistan's nuclear weapons when testifying to U.S. lawmakers on the threat posed by the country, the Press Trust of India reported.

"We know that Pakistan matters not just because it is the location for the Afghanistan Taliban leadership; it's also important in its own right. It's the base for al-Qaeda, it's a nuclear weapons state with the long-term risk of radicalization," Miliband told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee (Press Trust of India/Zee News, Jan. 22).
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I am convinced that the US will relent in the civilian nuclear collaboration area sooner than later.
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Hari Seldon wrote:^^^Maybe shrilleen is right after all...'twas the goddarn khans pulling the strings all along..... they've heldoff for until after Sri Gates' visit perhaps.....teabreak over, back to business I reckon...
Doctorullah..I mean Hakimullah's news on his demise could be true. The current mystery around his death resembles that of Baituallh and helps supress initial adverse reaction from the sleeper cells. That is in the interest of both TTP and Pakistan. After a few days when change of guard becomes public they might release it. Till then low score will continue IMO.
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Patni wrote:Pak govt. red faced after Gates nails its 'no Blackwater operating inside country' lie
From ANI

Islamabad, Jan.23: The Pakistan People's Party (PPP) government has come under attack from the opposition after US Defence Secretary Robert Gates's admitted that controversial private American security firms, Blackwater and DynCorp were indeed present in Pakistan. {Snipped} .............

Meanwhile, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira said the government had never denied the presence of the Blackwater in the country.

Kaira, however, said he was unaware about Gates' statement.

Copyright Asian News International/DailyIndia.com
Hmmm………… Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira insists on Blackwater being present in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan even as US Sec. Def. Robert Gates retracts his statement :roll: .

Robert Gates retracted his statement about Blackwater being present in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan at a Press Roundtable with the Pakistani Print Press on January 22, 2010.

See the US Department of Defence interview transcript here.
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Hari Seldon wrote:^^^Maybe shrilleen is right after all...'twas the goddarn khans pulling the strings all along..... they've heldoff for until after Sri Gates' visit perhaps.....teabreak over, back to business I reckon...
The US on the other hand has its own theories on who was pulling the strings all along and needless to add it was not the golden khans themselves :wink: .

Excerpt from PTV’s interview of US Sec. Def. Robert Gates on January 21, 2010:
MS. CHAUDHRY: Okay. All right. Another question on the Pakistani side is, because there have been a lot of attacks in Pakistan, and the militants are getting their arms and their funding from somewhere. Now obviously, that's not from the Pakistani -- (inaudible) -- because the Pakistani government would not be arming militants to attack itself. Where do you think this funding is coming from? And where do you think this chain of arms supplies is being tied to?

SEC. GATES: Well, this goes back to my earlier comments with respect to both al Qaeda and the Taliban on both sides of the border. We think that the Taliban gets some of their money from illegal narcotics. We think they get some of their money from stealing and from kidnappings. And they also get some money from the Middle East.

MS. CHAUDHRY: Who do you think is supplying the Pakistani Taliban with such a huge cache of arms?

(Cross talk.)

SEC. GATES: Well, my impression from 25 years ago is that there's no shortage of arms in the border area.

MS. CHAUDHRY: And you think that it is relatively new, or you would say it's still --

SEC. GATES: Again, it may be taken from dead soldiers. I don't know.

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This is a petition to Media, Cricketing Bodies to report Sohail paki Tanvir for his racist remarks. Please consider it signing. If possible, please pass it around.

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To break the long monotony felt by many in here, a suicide bomber targets a police station in Tank
Five people were killed including a policeman and 3 others were injured when a suicide attacker smashed his explosives-laden vehicle into a police station in Tank, Geo News reported Saturday.
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SSridhar wrote:To break the long monotony felt by many in here,
Sir,
What is your take on the slow batting?
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SSridhar wrote:
Aditya_V wrote:SSridhar-> Thats IT& ITES exports $201 million a year, not bad . They have increased it from $50 million to 200 million in 10 years.
Being a kufr, and that too of the SDRESP variety, I am unable to understand why the IT/ITeS exports have fallen so dramatically now. That's all.
An old friend, who is a keen follower and commentator of the dysfunctional state of Pakistan, reminded me of this. Thanks, sir.
The State Bank of Pakistan in its statement for the year 2008-09 reports the export figures of software and IT-enabled services to be US$ 201 million which shows a consistent annual growth. State Bank of Pakistan adopted BPM 5 reporting system to report the IT exports revenue, which restricted the export figures to US$ 201 million only {but for the unjust restriction imposed by the State Bank of Pakistan, IT revenues could have been many times more} in 2008-09. In India, the Reserve Bank of India follows the BPM 6 (also called MSITS) Reporting System, which raises its exports to billions of US dollars {unjustly of course, typical Chankian & cunning Hindus only. Hindu way of mind as the erudite Sohail Tanvir would aptly say}. BPM 6 includes sales to multinationals, earning of overseas offices & salaries of non-immigrant overseas workers to export revenue. Using the MSITS Reporting System, Pakistan IT Industry exports are estimated at US$ 1.4billion while the industry size is estimated at US$ 2.8 billion.
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a paki humanist discovers his roots, if only just for the prose.

January brings more joy to peasants than Eid or Diwali
By A.B. Arisar
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -310-za-12

Basic crux is this.
They feel genuine happiness when their accounts are settled even though, in most cases, they are told that a lion’s share of their earnings will go into clearance of debt they seek as advance from time to time throughout the year and payment of bills for agricultural inputs, including seed, ploughing, sowing, soil development, fertiliser, pesticides as well as medical facilities.
The fine art of tfta zamindari and the evolved art of graft.
... he had so far changed eight landlords. He suffered losses during migration but he had to, not in search of better master but just for a less abusive and less inhumane one. All his children work at the farmland.
He confirmed that expenses of soil development, sowing and threshing were borne by the peasant. If a peasant leaves a landlord during Rabi when the crop is ready to be harvested he is made to bear expenses of land development, ploughing and sowing but deprived of his share in the crop, he said.

The new peasant looks after the standing crop, which includes irrigating, harvesting, threshing, packing and bringing it to the landlord’s home but he, too, is denied any share in the harvest, he said.
He complained that their women were routinely abused and assaulted but they had to turn a blind eye because they were poor and helpless.
... Young girls were routinely assaulted but mostly it depended on a landlord’s character as well as peasant’s, he said.
He said that 77 per cent peasants were forced to leave their landlord who would them to another in return for his advance loan “peshgi”. It was a form of internal human trafficking, he said.

“When a peasant offers his services at an agricultural farm his whole family become virtual bonded labourers and will have to obey orders of the landlord,” he said.
did i hear kabbadi players refusing to play, lawyers refusing to plead or friday afternoon marches or fatwas decrying inhumanity haraam?
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krishnapremi wrote:What is your take on the slow batting?
Slow or fast is a relative thing. It is still going at a fair clip, I would say, because in the ultimate scheme of the limited overs match, the target should never be allowed to become out-of-reach at any point of time. It is easy to score during powerplays and difficult at other times, especially when a well-set Yuvraj/Jayasurya-type batsman just gets out. The new batsman has to settle down and consolidate. In any case, I agree that over the calendar year 2009, the effective kill rate of suicide bombers has declined steadily. Either the targets were not selected carefully, or the suicide bombers blew themselves up a tad too early. Also, looking at the vests caught recently from Karachi, it appears that they are not making them to be as destructive as before, which is perplexing. The Qari is involved in training the trainers nowadays and there is some lacuna in passing the knowledge, perhaps.
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those sethi videos... two things. why are pakis obsessed with useless junk like israel iran conflict, when they have so many issues in their backyard?
isn't this the same guy who keeps insinuating that pakis would make violent love by non-state actors and johariya bums in almost every column he writes?
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shaardula wrote:“When a peasant offers his services at an agricultural farm his whole family become virtual bonded labourers and will have to obey orders of the landlord,” he said.
For generations to come, I would add to the sentence above. The kind of land holding by these zamindars, pirs, sardars and vaderas is unimaginable. Tens of thousands of acres. The Sufi pirs are one of the worst offenders. They are landlords and spiritual gurus both rolled into one and therefore the most powerful. These powerful vested interests have ensured that no meaningful land reform ever takes place. A majority of Prime Ministers/Presidents of Pakistan have come from this powerful landlord class.
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arun wrote:I am gravely disappointed with the reaction of the Hockey Federation of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

Pakistan will not boycott Hockey World Cup

They ought to have followed in the footsteps of their own Parliamentarians and Kabaddi team:

Pakistan not to send parliamentarians

Pakistan Kabbadi federation scraps India tour

Dissuading the citizens of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan from visiting India sadly seems difficult.
Not that Chief Election Commissioners are held in high esteem in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan given that military coups are as popular if not more than elections for changing Governments, but I still hope the Hockey Federation will see the light and be dissuaded from visiting India:

IPL snub: Pak cancels India visit of its CEC
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James B wrote:This is a petition to Media, Cricketing Bodies to report Sohail paki Tanvir for his racist remarks. Please consider it signing. If possible, please pass it around.

http://www.petitiononline.com/NoTanvir/petition.html

Mods,

If this is inappropriate please delete this post.

Thanks


Most of the beggars we come across on the streets take what ever we give them or can be shooed away without much trouble. There are a certain class of beggars who come in a group, sing some besura song with the rest of the troupe playing some ridiculous background music, then they " demand" money with a vastly inflated sense of entitlement and then abuse you if what you give them as alms isnt to their expectations.
These pigs are essentially beggars, what hurt them was that they swallowed their sense of sooperiority, took a hit to their H&D and put themselves forward for the auction to be bought by the proverbial enemy, they were duly ignored by the franchisees who took a purely business decision and the pigs are now behaving like the beggars who get shooed away emptyhanded after performing their ridiculous act.

Pak lurks, most of us enjoyed the way you squirmed and cringed in self loath, we just love the way you are getting more and more irrelevant by the day, please take out your anger on the nearest KFC( my sources tell me that Indians hold about 30% of the stock :lol:

So much for aman ki asha
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James B wrote:This is a petition to Media, Cricketing Bodies to report Sohail paki Tanvir for his racist remarks. Please consider it signing. If possible, please pass it around.

http://www.petitiononline.com/NoTanvir/petition.html
Done and fwded, thanks for starting the petition. Hope others sign too, took less than 1 minute.
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C.I.A. Deaths Prompt Surge in U.S. Drone Strikes from the NYT
Quotable -
Pakistan’s announcement on Thursday that its army would delay any new offensives against militants in North Waziristan for 6 to 12 months is likely to increase American reliance on the drone strikes, administration and counterterrorism officials said. By next year, the C.I.A. is expected to more than double its fleet of the latest Reaper aircraft — bigger, faster and more heavily armed than the older Predators — to 14 from 6, an Obama administration official said.
Pakistan recently dropped restrictions on the drone program it had requested last fall to accompany a ground offensive against militants in South Waziristan.
Hasan Askari Rizvi, a military analyst in Lahore, said public opposition had been declining because the campaign was viewed as a success
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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The IPL auction tamasha that was conducted last week provides us with valuable insights about how to deal with martial race Pakjabis on the other side of the border. Most of the time, our MEA either indulges in a tit for tat verbal bashing with TSP's foreign office, or starts giving mindless sermons such as "reduce terror to start peace talks" et.c to Pakjabis.

Suppose if the IPL board had declared initially that Pak players are not allowed in the auctions, it would not have led to such chaos. The IPL guys didn't cared to send a special announcement about Pak players eligibility. Instead, the Pak players were ignored. That indeed, was a tight slap. In a similar way, India should ignore TSP's rants in the diplomatic arena instead of giving a reply to every nonsensical trash spewed from across the border. Over a period of time, even the international community would recognize TSP's trash. In other words, we must dehyphenate our selves from the Ind-Pak equation. This has already started and TSP is already bracketed with Afghanistan. In one of the above posters, there was some mention about TSP's disappointment with the Ind-Pak dehyphenation.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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krishnapremi wrote:
SSridhar wrote:To break the long monotony felt by many in here,
Sir,
What is your take on the slow batting?
This is usually the case after a heavy lunch break in a five day test match. It takes a while before the run rate picks up. Remember, its only the first innings.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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arun wrote: SEC. GATES: Well, my impression from 25 years ago is that there's no shortage of arms in the border area.
SEC. GATES: Again, it may be taken from dead soldiers.
Clicky
That's a lot of dead soldiers. Is the puki army brass keeping something from the public? Hiding its losses? The press admits 2000. Maybe thats why they (the PA) are taking a long break (12 months) to catch their breath and replenish.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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SSridhar wrote:
krishnapremi wrote:What is your take on the slow batting?
Slow or fast is a relative thing. It is still going at a fair clip, I would say, because in the ultimate scheme of the limited overs match, the target should never be allowed to become out-of-reach at any point of time. It is easy to score during powerplays and difficult at other times, especially when a well-set Yuvraj/Jayasurya-type batsman just gets out. The new batsman has to settle down and consolidate. In any case, I agree that over the calendar year 2009, the effective kill rate of suicide bombers has declined steadily. Either the targets were not selected carefully, or the suicide bombers blew themselves up a tad too early. Also, looking at the vests caught recently from Karachi, it appears that they are not making them to be as destructive as before, which is perplexing. The Qari is involved in training the trainers nowadays and there is some lacuna in passing the knowledge, perhaps.
Slow batting is a myth. 355 pakis have attained 72 (between Jan 1st to Jan 18th of 2010) @ almost 20 per day.
Just that it is not being reported in the press :((
See Satp.org for daily updates
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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Hari Seldon wrote:
"Pakistan is a sovereign country and it would make its own decisions about what is the best timing for their military operation, when they are going to do it, or whether they are going to do it at all."
Re bolded parts above, Sri Gates is diplomat consummate. Said everything everyone wanted to hear without saying anything at all in the final analysis. wow again.
Hmm.., so why are drones being gifted to sossai jihads in uniform. Maybe, unkil is being very chankian by delivering 12 drones with survey capability of tourist spots. They could actually take out any jihadi in uniform as it would confuse the jihadis in uniform was it a mistaken friendly survelliance (as friendly fire) done by jihadis or unkil.
Maybe the drones are already with the bakis, and Unkil is washing hands off and letting India know that the toys are going to be used soon against India.
Anyway the jihadis in uniform are going to be a confused lot. They have run out of targets to yield a provocation from India. Been there done that and it is very frustrating for the jihadis, what's next on the menu?
Attack Army families - kalchuk
Attack Parliament - done that
Hijack airplanes - done that
Attack financial center - done that
Attack civilians - done that
Attack Dilli billi crowd - done that
attack hospital - mumbai done that
Attack temple - aksharadham - done that
attack educational institution - IIsc -done that
attack who and what?
Anyone. It will be useful for GOI to have already instituted a Standard Operating Procedure to kick in, if not already being implemented to provide deliverance to Bakis. Bakis are beyond reformation, onlee mukhti marg is left. Hope India facilitates it soon.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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What the Taliban want
By Irfan Husain
Saturday, 23 Jan, 2010
The short answer is power. Other excuses for their murderous excesses are a fig-leaf: demands for the Sharia and the expulsion of foreign forces from the region are no more than window-dressing
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/daw ... -310-zj-07
irfan husain argues that what the taliban really seek is power and their use of other causes like religious and nationalistic motifs are a "fig leaf". He digs in into the talibans practical means of achieving power and their relationship with existing powers in TSP - the TSPA and GoP. He also points out the atrocities committed in the name of these - the rape of womenkind, destruction of schools, barber shops and video libraries.

In the end, this piece is a desperate soul search that lays blame on many of the key players and ideas that exist on that side of the sindhu and have contributed to the T in TSP, except one. The taliban derive their legitimacy only because rest of the non-talibani pakis believe that literalist approach to revelations is legitimate. So when they talk about sharia, barber shops and videos and women, they talk with authority. Nobody has said their actions are wrong. They have only said they are attrocious and cause takleef. The woman is not equal, but when you beat her in the middle of chowk it is ugly. If they can repackage all this and polish their act a little bit it would be ok.

In Swat the taliban were redistributing land to the peasants. If they can marry such populist ideas with issues like sharia, what chance do people like corrupt feudals like zardari, sharif or those in uniform etc have?

So this where TSPA, in defence of its feudal interests in its own backyard, is cultivating mullahs in the east who can plough the texts counter to taliban. Sharia etc they will not counter, but what will happen if the taliban start talking about land, wealth etc.? I have not heard of TSPA cultivating mullahs in the west, apart from taliban. i may be wrong. if anybody knows of any mullahs in the west, apart from talibs, that tspa has cultivated, please point out.

thanks sridhar
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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SM Krishna's remarks are immature: Pakistani Foreign Office
Pakistan foreign office spokesman Abdul Basit claimed that the Mumbai attacks would not have happened without local support and that Krishna should "understand the realities" and avoid such statements.

It is "an immature statement", Basit said while reacting to Krishna's remarks carried by a magazine that "any repeat of such (26/11 type of) attacks will have serious repercussions on bilateral ties."
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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JwalaMukhi wrote:what's next on the menu?
Attack Army families - kalchuk
Attack Parliament - done that
Hijack airplanes - done that
Attack financial center - done that
Attack civilians - done that
Attack Dilli billi crowd - done that
attack hospital - mumbai done that
Attack temple - aksharadham - done that
attack educational institution - IIsc -done that
attack who and what?
They have also done hotel, station, court, train, market, cinema, hospital. They have attacked Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims and Jews

They are yet to do shopping mall, oil refinery, school, sporting event, religious festival. And a Church.

And don't forget that this is being done in the name of Allah, who is expected to provide a place in heaven to people trained to do this type of killing. The training is given in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. If there is any inaccuracy in these latter statements I would like someone to point it out to me and to all readers. I am willing to be corrected and will humbly accept any error I may have made.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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Whoa, Paki exporting IT worth $200 million? :eek:
A person who recently returned from bangladesh (posted there by
an indian IT co. to train BD-ITians) commented that BD is better
skilled and better organized than paki. It is just a matter of time
that due to better political climate Indians cos will set up shops
in BD. There are many reasons including educated women are
in good numbers, ready to join the workforce, highly skilled, and
socio-economic conditions are just like Kolkata or Bangalore.

Wwe need to see how Pak is earning these $200 million, who they are
exporting their IT-goods. There is a good possibility that many
It cos are just fronts for D-company, and they are laundering
black money (narcotics) showing that it is legally earned money
thru IT export.
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Re: Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

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sporting event
They attacked the Sri Lankan cricket team, but agreed, that is not a sporting event.
There was a volleyball attack in Pakistan.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html
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