Terrorist Islamic Republic of Pakistan (TSP) - Dec 30 - 2009

csharma · Post by **csharma** » 24 Jan 2010 07:09

Is the culture of people of Pakistan and Bangladesh significantly different from that of India. These guys are creating artificial culture and now complaining that India's culture has appeal. What should India do? Try to learn Arabic, Persian and Turkic culture from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Jan 2010 07:35

Pakistan not impressed with the US offer of drones

The U.S. announcement that it is considering providing Pakistan a dozen unmanned aerial vehicles for surveillance has received a less than warm reception here, with one report saying the military was unimpressed.

Contacted by The Hindu, military spokesman Major-General Athar Abbas was circumspect. He said no formal offer had yet been made to Pakistan over the drones.

“Unless an official offer is made, it is premature to comment,” he said.

Pakistan has its own surveillance drones, and if there is a formal offer for UAVs from the U.S., he said, “obviously, it has to be an improvement, it has to be new, more effective and improve combat efficiency”.{A very fair demand indeed}

It is only a matter of time before the US sees the fairness of TSP's demand and does something better than the Shadow drones.

Hari Seldon · Post by **Hari Seldon** » 24 Jan 2010 08:07

IMO, no point getting disappoionted with the Jaipur literary fest theaterics.

India being the somewhat identity-secure open society it is will have to putup with such pinpricks now and then. As long as such BS doesn't contaminate policy, tamasha chalta rahe, why do we care? ENtertainment hai, light lo.

The RAPE class will have something to wrestle with back in their tottering home countries with domestic fundies baying for their 'sellout' blood.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 24 Jan 2010 09:00

Very important that such "intellectual" gatherings continue to happen. Even the participants can't but agree that such open criticism of the government and the ethos of the host nation is not possible back home in their own countries.

We must take these things in stride. Not boil our blood on the WKKs unnecessarily. I am convinced that GoI is not going to do anything rash. The system is durable and will balance itself very soon indeed. India woun't have survived the turbulent 70s and the 80s if the system wasn't sound.

Uday B · Post by **Uday B** » 24 Jan 2010 09:09

Akshut wrote:MODS, posting here for the viewing pleasure of pak-lurks. Kindly move to appropriate thread if necessary. & Kindly pardon the language.

Coz only this video can reveal what a paki must be feeling from within...

Credit: FursungikarFene(on YouTube)

That is awesome man!!

I wonder what the paklurks are feeling after watching the video

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Jan 2010 09:31

Akshut wrote:MODS, posting here for the viewing pleasure of pak-lurks. Kindly move to appropriate thread if necessary. & Kindly pardon the language.
Coz only this video can reveal what a paki must be feeling from within...

Akshut, simply, simply fabulous.

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 24 Jan 2010 09:34

FursungikarFene,

Wonderful job. Well done indeed.

Kati · Post by **Kati** » 24 Jan 2010 09:51

'Tarrel than the mountain' is providing a life support to its 'deeper than the ocean' friend.

But first about that paki IT business. Looks like some RAPE class settled in the west have set-up shops in the pure land to take advantage of desperate labor force. This is
the impression i got after searching through the web.

Pakistan's Software Industry Celebrates Achievements

Pakistan's first China think tank serves to promote bilateral ties

Islamabad Sees Deals With China

China In Pakistan

China's Khyber Pass

milindc · Post by **milindc** » 24 Jan 2010 09:53

Akshut wrote:No No. I was just the 1st one to watch this video on YouTube.

Credit goes to : FursungikarFene

Akshut, Thanks
FursungikarFene is a genius.

SSridhar · Post by **SSridhar** » 24 Jan 2010 13:19

Kati, when you cut&paste, please put that within Quote tags.

arun · Post by **arun** » 24 Jan 2010 13:49

The Eurasia Group released its annual Top 10 Risks of 2010 three weeks back on January 4, 2010.

The eighth highest risk event for 2010 is reckoned by the Eurasia Group as a deterioration in Indo-Pakistani relations:

Eurasia Group’s Top Risks of 2010 .........................................

8: India-Pakistan (no, not Afghanistan)

South Asia is still a morass in 2010. But the US troop surge has given Obama some time. Afghanistan will produce bigger and bigger domestic headlines, but not much will actually change until the United States reaches (or, more likely, is forced to reach) a decision point. For now, that’s 2011 at the earliest.

Having said that, there’s a broader south Asia risk developing this year. The decision by Paki¬stan to go after terrorists domestically provides Islamic extremists with powerful reasons to expand asymmetric attacks on Pakistan’s urban centers and to try to reignite Indian-Pakistani conflict. That’s easy enough to do. Pakistan’s extremist groups have increased in sophistication and consolidated their capacity, both by joining together and by forging closer links to al Qaeda in the region. In Pakistan, a significant proportion of the population continues to believe that terrorist attacks against the population originate in India. Pakistani networks operating in India haven’t gotten much attention, however, and represent a weak link on the counterterrorist front.

This means that the likelihood of attacks in India and against Indian targets in the region is increasing, a particular worry given the nature of the potential targets (government facilities and densely populated urban areas). The Indian government is aware of the threat and has sought to improve its counterterrorist response—including via increased ground-level coordi¬nation in Delhi and Mumbai with American and British counterterrorist organizations. But progress has been slow, and India’s counterterrorism capacity remains underdeveloped, badly coordinated, and vulnerable.

Meanwhile, any new attacks would put serious pressure on India to take a tougher line on Pakistan. India’s Congress Party leadership is loath to escalate military tensions with Pakistan. But following a quieter line after the Mumbai attacks in late 2008, it made strong demands on Pakistan to take decisive steps against extremist networks with ties to India. Successful large-scale attacks would undermine the Congress Party’s credibility on the issue, leading the Indian government to take outsized steps in raising the military posture toward Pakistan. That, in turn, means Pakistan shifting its focus away from the tribal areas and, as importantly, changing its strategic view on taking on further operations—a shift that would sit comfortably with much of Pakistan’s senior military command, who still see rising India as Pakistan’s main strategic challenge.

Indian-Pakistani relations, which had been quietly improving during the final years of the Musharraf regime, have already deteriorated somewhat under President Asif Ali Zardari, and it will prove harder for both sides to back away from any high-level military alert. Meanwhile, in both Delhi and Islamabad, Obama’s pledge during his Afghan speech to begin US troop withdrawals in 2011 is being read as a signal that the US is minimizing its long-term commitment to the region. This feeds the already powerful views in both capitals that they should plan for continuation of their long-term strategic rivalry. Worst case, should there be a series of terror attacks in India, we could see Indian efforts to secure international sanctions against Pakistan—and potentially surgical strikes by India against military training camps inside Pakistan. In short, for the first time in nearly a decade, there are serious factors pushing the Indian and Pakistani governments back toward confrontation.

Eurasia Group: Top Risks of 2010

chetak · Post by **chetak** » 24 Jan 2010 14:09

csharma wrote:Is the culture of people of Pakistan and Bangladesh significantly different from that of India. These guys are creating artificial culture and now complaining that India's culture has appeal. What should India do? Try to learn Arabic, Persian and Turkic culture from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

IMHO, the culture of pakistan and bangladesh is significantly different from each other as well as from that of a vast majority of India and Indians.

This "we have the same culture" theory doesn't really wash.

The culture of the pakis and the bangladeshis are somewhat common ( and mostly limited to) to the shared border areas and the resulting immediate contiguous areas of the Indian landmass. To some extent a part of the paki / bangladeshi culture may be reflected in areas like some parts of Delhi and may be UP and Punjab and some areas to the north east due to the large ingress of Hindus displaced by partition or by illegal migration. Today such perceptions are becoming increasingly irrelevant to the Indians but seem to be actively pursued by the two other countries for obvious reasons.

As the older and migration affected populace thins out, the newer generations do not seem to actively seek ties across the border. The waning influence of the commies will also accelerate this process.

We "share a common heritage" theory often proposed by the pakis / bangladeshis as well as the kandle kissers is not really applicable to or appreciated by a vast majority of the common Indians.

The sixty odd years since partition have really brought about a chalk and cheese sort of change. The ingrained national focus seem to be in significantly different directions in the three countries.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » 24 Jan 2010 14:23

Cricket in Pakistan will die a natural death. There is however going to be a new sport.
"Droneket"
The game is simple. A drone marks you and you got to run as much as possible before it fires at you. The distance in yards you ran is your score. If the next guy beats your score he wins!! We need to work on this Droneket game. I am sure someone can design in flash. The drones fire at pakis and pakis must run. I am sure we can make a killing of money if this flies.

Tamang · Post by **Tamang** » 24 Jan 2010 16:58

Win over India in WC right answer to IPL snub:PCB, ex-players

Next year they will again line-up for IPL. BTW when is the next series with Pak?

"So it is good news for Pakistan cricket and it just shows how much talent we are blessed with. If the senior team also plays with the same unity and purpose it can also replicate the performance of the juniors in Australia," he added.

They just did

arun · Post by **arun** » 24 Jan 2010 18:49

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan’s Interior Minister Rehman Malik weaves a convoluted conspiracy theory where Pakistani Islamic terrorists are hired by Indian Hindus to blow up the Samjhatau Express and is upset that India is not providing information to play along with this conspiracy.

Even the high and mighty of the Islamic Republic it would seem are not immune to the national past time of weaving weird conspiracy theories

Meanwhile I am a little confused with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan taking responsibility for the Samjhatau Express terrorist attack. Usually an admission of the Islamic Republic's complicity requires much prodding:

India not providing details on Samjhota: Malik

Saturday, 23 Jan, 2010

ISLAMABAD: Interior Minister Rehman Malik said that India is not providing details about Lieutenant Colonel Shrikant Purohit who was allegedly involved in Samjhota express bombings in 2007, which killed at least 68 people.

Speaking to the media in Islamabad, Malik alleged that Colonel Purohit had also hired some militants to carry out the bombing.

"Colonel Purohit was interrogated by one of the director investigations, Kur Kury, who was killed in the attack. This clearly demonstrates that there were some Pakistan-based Islamists who had been hired to carry out the Samjohta Express attack. That is the dossier we have requested India to provide us with, but they haven't," said Malik.

"Even today I sent a message inviting them to come and sit with us and talk; we will bring our evidence and they can bring theirs," he added. ……………..

Dawn

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 24 Jan 2010 18:58

Huge embarrassment for Govt, ex-PAF chief's image in ad

In a huge embarrassment, a full- page newspaper advertisement given by the Government on Sunday to mark the National Girl Child Day carried a photograph of a former Pakistan Air Force chief along with that of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress President Sonia Gandhi.

arun · Post by **arun** » 24 Jan 2010 19:14

^^^ So there we have it from our Minister for Women and Child Development, Krishna Tirath .

The Girl Children of India are to be protected by the Air Force of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan

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An unrepentant Minister for Women and Child Development Krishna Tirath defiantly refused to accept the blunder and accused the media of hair-splitting.

She said the "message is more important than the image. The photograph is only symbolic. The message for the girl child is more important. She should be protected."

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Jan 2010 19:18

Gerard wrote:Huge embarrassment for Govt, ex-PAF chief's image in ad
In a huge embarrassment, a full- page newspaper advertisement given by the Government on Sunday to mark the National Girl Child Day carried a photograph of a former Pakistan Air Force chief along with that of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Congress President Sonia Gandhi.

I think it is a double error. The ad agency has been given a task and the morons in the ad agency like all morons from the ad agencies that make ads for drug companies took a photu off the net. That was error one.

Error 2 was the PMO's PR officer who did not cross check. It is likely that the PMO's PR officer is another moron for whom one uniform is the same as another - all pandus.

I am supremely happy this occurred. I am hoping to see more such idiocy so that some heads roll. Idiots of the first order....

shiv · Post by **shiv** » 24 Jan 2010 19:20

An unrepentant Minister for Women and Child Development Krishna Tirath defiantly refused to accept the blunder and accused the media of hair-splitting.

She said the "message is more important than the image. The photograph is only symbolic. The message for the girl child is more important. She should be protected."

Stupid woman. Exactly as I thought - some pandu in uniform is doing the protection. This woman need to be reprimanded for stupidity.

Dilbu · Post by **Dilbu** » 24 Jan 2010 19:25

I am glad they didnt put Mr.India fame 'Mogambo' into the ad because he had a nice looking uniform.

archan · Post by **archan** » 24 Jan 2010 19:27

X-posted from the poetry thread, my take on Aman Ki Asha:

अमन की आशा

घर घर में आज जगती है, हर सुबह अमन की आशा,
टाइम्स ऑफ इंडिया और दैनिक जंग का, देखो नया तमाशा,

पीठ में ख़ंजर भोंका जिनने, मानवता को ही छला,
आज बोलते चले हैं वोही, कैसी शांति की भाषा,

ज़मीन के लालच को धर्म का मुखौटा पहना,
जिन जल्लादों ने छीना भारत माँ का गहना,
आज उन्ही से रखनी होगी, हमको प्रेम की अभिलाषा
वाह रे टाइम्स ऑफ इंडिया, क्या खूब है तेरी आशा.

देखो कैप्टन कालिया, ऐसा हुआ आपका बलिदान,
आज अफ़ज़ल गुरु और क़सब को शायद मिल जाये जीवनदान,
छब्बीस-ग्यारह दोहराने को बेचैन हैं जिनके जेहादी,
दोस्ती का राग सुना रहे, वही कियानी, ज़रदारी और गीलानी,
कौआ चले हंस की चाल, देखो इनकी मीठी भाषा,
हमें दोस्ती का पाठ पढ़ाएंगे, अब सूजा अहमद पाशा.

हमारे अपने नेताओं ने, देश को भी नहीं बख़्शा
नपुंसक से भी कम पौरुष जिनमें, वो करेंगे देश की रक्षा?
बातचीत के ज़रिये ये, मिटा देंगे सारे भेद
आधा कश्मीर खोने का, इनको ज़रा नहीं खेद,
राष्ट्र को किया लज्जित, दी शर्म-अल-शेख़ में निराशा,
समझे नहीं हम किसने लिखी आख़िर उस दस्तावेज़ की भाषा.
कब तक जयचंदों को जनती रहेगी हे माता!
कब तक तेरे बच्चों को होती रहेगी हताशा,

आतंकवाद की आग में जब जल रहा है पाकिस्तान,
ऐसी हालत में इनके हृदय में जागा है इंसान,
दिल्ली मुंबई अहमदाबाद ने जब की थीं जानें क़ुर्बान,
मन ही मन खुश होते थे यही पाकी हैवान,
देखो भारतवासियों, रखना इतना ध्यान,
राष्ट्रभक्तों के हाथ में ही सदा देना तुम कमान,
झूठे धर्म-निरपक्षों से रहना तुम सावधान,
वोट बैंक बनकर कभी मत करना मतदान.

बोस, पटेल, सावरकर ने, जिस देश को है तराशा,
लूट ना ले उसको फिर, यह झूठी अमन की आशा.
घर घर में आज जगती है, हर सुबह अमन की आशा,
टाइम्स ऑफ इंडिया और दैनिक जंग का, देखो नया तमाशा.

English Transliteration:

Aman Ki Aasha

Ghar ghar mein aaj jagti hai, har subah aman ki aasha,
Times of India aur dainik Jang ka, dekho naya tamaasha,

Peeth mein khanjar bhonka jinnay, manavta ko hi chhala,
aaj bolte chale hain wohi, kaisi shanti ki bhaasha,

zameen ke lalach ko dharm ka mukhauta pehna,
jin jallado ne chhena, Bharat Maa ka gehna,
aaj unhi se rakhni hogi, hamko prem ki abhilaasha,
wah re Times of India, kya khoob hai teri Aasha.

Dekho Captain Kalia, aisa hua aapka balidaan,
Aaj Afzal Guru aur Qasab ko, shayad mil jaaye jeevandaan,
Chhabees-Gyarah (26/11) dohraanay ko, bechain hain jinkay jehadi,
hame dosti ka raag sunaa rahey, wohi Kiani, Zardari aur Gilani
Kawwa chale hans ki chaal, dekho inki meethi bhaasha,
hamen dosti ka paath padhayenge, ab Sooja Ahmed Pasha.

Hamare apne netao ne, desh ko bhi nahi baksha,
Napunsak se bhi kam pourush jinme, woh karenge desh ki raksha?
baatcheet ke zariye ye, mitaa denge saare bhed,
aadha Kashmir khoney ka, inko zara nahi khed,
Rashtra ko kiya lajjit, di Sharm-Al-Shekh mein niraasha,
samjhe nahin hum kisnay likhi , aakhir us dastavez ki bhasha.
Kab tak Jaichando ko janti rahegi he maata,
Kab tak tere bachcho ko, hoti rahegi hataasha.

Atankwaad ki aag mein, jab jal raha hai Pakistan,
Aisi halat mein inke hriday mein, jaaga hai insaan,
Dilli, Mumbai Ahemdabad ne, jab ki thi jaane qurbaan,
man hi man khush hote they, yahi paki haiwan.
Dekho Bharat vasiyon, rakhna itna dhyan,
Rashtrabhakto ke haath mein hi, sada dana tum kamaan,
Jhoothey dharm-nirpayksho se, rehna tom saavdhaan,
vote bank bankar kabhi, mat karna matdaan.

Bose, Patel, Savarkar ne, jis desh ko hai taraasha,
loot na le usko phir, yeh jhooti aman ki aasha.
Ghar ghar mein aaj jagti hai, har subah aman ki aasha,
Times of India aur dainik Jang ka, dekho naya tamaasha.

Guddu · Post by **Guddu** » 24 Jan 2010 19:38

shiv wrote:
An unrepentant Minister for Women and Child Development Krishna Tirath defiantly refused to accept the blunder and accused the media of hair-splitting.

She said the "message is more important than the image. The photograph is only symbolic. The message for the girl child is more important. She should be protected."
Stupid woman. Exactly as I thought - some pandu in uniform is doing the protection. This woman need to be reprimanded for stupidity.

Since no one has said it, I will be the first...its onlee a chanakyian move by GOI...it sends a deep subliminal message to the piglets, that very soon pakiland will come back to mother India, and the Indian tricolor will fly in slummabad...I am surprised you guys missed this angle

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Jan 2010 19:59

May be we are all wrong and one of the most important person that BRF is sensitive have a different opinion.

As per B.Raman on Twitter:

Cricket is Pak people's pride. IPL has hurt their pride.Should not hurt pride of even one's adversary. LET might target IPL matches

James B · Post by **James B** » 24 Jan 2010 20:03

Muppalla wrote:May be we are all wrong and one of the most important person that BRF is sensitive have a different opinion.
As per B.Raman on Twitter:
Cricket is Pak people's pride. IPL has hurt their pride.Should not hurt pride of even one's adversary. LET might target IPL matches

As if these LET pigs will not target IPL if Pakis H&D was not hurt. More poppycock.

In any case, we need to tighten internal security and provide maximum security during the matches.

Aditya_V · Post by **Aditya_V** » 24 Jan 2010 20:06

Is this Ad part of Aman Ki Asha, that we must celebrate Paki men in Uniform for Killing Indian Soilders?

Avinash R · Post by **Avinash R** » 24 Jan 2010 20:12

arun wrote:
Speaking to the media in Islamabad, Malik alleged that Colonel Purohit had also hired some militants to carry out the bombing.

"Colonel Purohit was interrogated by one of the director investigations, Kur Kury, who was killed in the attack. This clearly demonstrates that there were some Pakistan-based Islamists who had been hired to carry out the Samjohta Express attack. That is the dossier we have requested India to provide us with, but they haven't," said Malik.

Conspiracy theory specialist Zaid hamid called him kurkure, malik calls him kur kury, now what will zardari and gilani call him. These people are so engrossed in creating new theories about his death that they have all but forgotten the man's real name.

svenkat · Post by **svenkat** » 24 Jan 2010 20:12

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AdityaM · Post by **AdityaM** » 24 Jan 2010 20:22

HeadlinesToday anchor is openly batting for Pakis.
He called IPL's Modi a shameless man because he not only refused to apologise, he even upset the dignity of a neigbouring nation

As for Govt adverts, i am very sure that 2 months ago, a GOI advert carried a map showing POK to be a part of TSP. I am unable to find that advert

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 24 Jan 2010 20:30

Presswallahs are

because chai samosa parties and other haraam things are being missed due to absence of options to wine and dine the jihadis. Wagah border is always open to perform the candle kissing routine, why presswallahs are

?

AnimeshP · Post by **AnimeshP** » 24 Jan 2010 20:42

JwalaMukhi wrote:Presswallahs are because chai samosa parties and other haraam things are being missed due to absence of options to wine and dine the jihadis. Wagah border is always open to perform the candle kissing routine, why presswallahs are ?

because the lahori kebabs will become cold by the time they are brought to Wagah border ... don't you know ... our WKKs live and die by hot lahori kebabs ...

sanjaychoudhry · Post by **sanjaychoudhry** » 24 Jan 2010 20:46

Hari Seldon wrote:IMO, no point getting disappoionted with the Jaipur literary fest theaterics.

India being the somewhat identity-secure open society it is will have to putup with such pinpricks now and then. As long as such BS doesn't contaminate policy, tamasha chalta rahe, why do we care? ENtertainment hai, light lo.

The RAPE class will have something to wrestle with back in their tottering home countries with domestic fundies baying for their 'sellout' blood.

Well, the pompously titled Jaipur Literary Festival is a Gora-funded operation, so the anti-Hindu and anti-national atmosphere that pervades it is to be expected.

William Dalrymple is the director of the Festival, while a brown sepoy has been named another director so that the gora doesn't look out of place.
http://jaipurliteraturefestival.org/abo ... -festival/

The festival is funded and organised by the Jaipur Virasat Foundation
http://www.jaipurvirasatfoundation.org/

About Jaipur Virasat Foundation
The Jaipur Virasat Foundation (JVF) has registered as a non-profit trust in 2002. It has evolved its programmes in association with various local and citizen groups and partners. UNESCO quotes JVF as a platform for common man to showcase his creativity. It is promoted by Jaipur Heritage Trust in U.K. and Les Amis de Jaipur in France. HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, UK is the international patron of JVF.

http://www.festivalsofindia.in/Jaipur_L ... ation.aspx

So you see, this festival is a totally Gora funded and operated event which manipulates deracinated, English speaking brown sepoys into conducting anti-Hindu and anti-India propaganda on India's own soil. Last year, it invited Pakistani "intellectuals" who gave speeches about Hindu fundamentalism. This year it was kanchan Iliah who gave speech about Hindu fundamentalism and backward HIndu religion .... you get the idea about what is going on and at whose behest. It is only the brown coolies nibbling kebabs at the festival who are clueless.

Notice how the goras set up a NGO to promote "heritage of Rajasthan" and how quickly the agency moved into organising meets where invitees give speeches about Hindu fundamentalism and Dalit freedom.

archan · Post by **archan** » 24 Jan 2010 20:58

No dearth of Jaichands around.

JwalaMukhi · Post by **JwalaMukhi** » 24 Jan 2010 21:10

AnimeshP wrote:because the lahori kebabs will become cold by the time they are brought to Wagah border ... don't you know ... our WKKs live and die by hot lahori kebabs ...

Yes sire that's correct. It is not just a simple jolt to the H&D for the bakis, what little Bakis have left with. A few players not getting hands on the money is not the problem. It is blackout of the baki jihadi mafia indulging in bookie dealings in the IPL. It has many loosers in the jihadi camp. Not that bookie can't happen now, but it will be muted as there is no OOmph factor, without the Creek God. That's causing all the indigestion and more. Who knows which sticky fingers are left out in this tamasha, hence general

from the affected parties (including candle kissing brigade).

shaardula · Post by **shaardula** » 24 Jan 2010 21:11

nadeem paracha. whatever he is smoking is working.

Smokers’ Corner: The minor majority

communalism in india & rise of anti-Hindu sentiments in Pakistan. india has a communalism problem and means to address it. pakistan IS a communalism problem.

Gerard · Post by **Gerard** » 24 Jan 2010 21:41

Kati, there was no need to paste the entire text of 4 articles. Just the URLs would have sufficed.

By not including the URLs, the actual provider of the content is deprived of advertising revenue.
Please respect copyright.

Muppalla · Post by **Muppalla** » 24 Jan 2010 21:42

Drone shot down

Jarita · Post by **Jarita** » 24 Jan 2010 21:43

Muppalla wrote:May be we are all wrong and one of the most important person that BRF is sensitive have a different opinion.
As per B.Raman on Twitter:
Cricket is Pak people's pride. IPL has hurt their pride.Should not hurt pride of even one's adversary. LET might target IPL matches

Fail to understand why we are wrong just because one person has another opinion.

On that note Pakistan has never hesitated in hurting our pride - You should see the way they refer to our women, culture and psyche. All that in public spaces.
Frankly I am fed up of people saying IPL matches will be atatcked.
So be it. Pakis will not stop attacking our country IPL or no IPL. Everytime we give them money, concessions etc we just feed the monster.
No amount of people to people talks or gibberish like that will change anything. It will certainly not enable Hindus and Sikhs who escaped to go back to their land and people forcibly converted to get back to their religion (and that this the fundamental test).
It is time to stop feeding the monster. Will pandering to a serial killer change behaviours. NO
STop pandering to them, stop giving them funds. Call them out for what they are - Terrorist production and rental company, minorities killers, fundamentalists of the worst kind, cultural annihilators, feudal torturers, misogynists and representatives of the worst colonial western oligarchs (and oh! lapdog of another despot - China).

Gagan · Post by **Gagan** » 24 Jan 2010 21:46

sanjaychoudhry wrote:So you see, this festival is a totally Gora funded and operated event which manipulates deracinated, English speaking brown sepoys into conducting anti-Hindu and anti-India propaganda on India's own soil.

sanjaychoudhry,
really good piece of investigation! Very enlightening.

There must be a lot of such NGOs in north India - in fact in all of the top 15-20 major towns. If such a group could sprout in Jaipur, one can be sure there are more in Pune, bangalore, trivandrum, chandigarh and Delhi.

In fact all the crooks in India are setting up NGOs of one type or the other. I have spoken to a few of them, and the consensus is that they are in it for the money and jetsetting around.

If some gora or a paki or a cheeni comes in with money, most will be willing to hold such seminars, invite the usual suspects, and media and some 5 star party sharty and daaru shaaru involved with money being made on the side.

negi · Post by **negi** » 24 Jan 2010 21:49

Read the complete article

Suhasini Haidar: India and Pakistan: new over in the offing?

Another sign is the flurry of track-2 initiatives between activists, aided by two major newspapers on both sides of the border. {Ah so gobermund was involved in aman ka tamasha trying to form an opinion so that talks don't come as surprise to Indians eh } And finally, a new line is expected following the exit of National Security Adviser M K Narayanan, a man known for tough talking on Pakistan, who has been replaced by a diplomat known for his ability to talk to the Pakistani leadership — former Foreign Secretary Shiv Shankar Menon. {ah the S.e.S }

archan · Post by **archan** » 24 Jan 2010 21:54

Looks like the bait is dangling, it remains to be seen if the fish grab it.